1 00:00:00,012 --> 00:00:05,622 So that was a series of action packed videos Brendan and Mitchell have done a 2 00:00:05,622 --> 00:00:09,255 great deal. And if you look at the current HTML 5, 3 00:00:09,255 --> 00:00:14,567 JavaScript, really some of the work that Brendan and Mitchell have done have 4 00:00:14,567 --> 00:00:19,962 created this new world that we live in right now with these highly interactive 5 00:00:19,962 --> 00:00:25,119 applications JavaScript, Ajax. It can really all trace its moment back to 6 00:00:25,119 --> 00:00:30,929 its creation moment, back to these folks, who A, created a clever technology, and B, 7 00:00:30,929 --> 00:00:34,431 fought to keep it from becoming too proprietary. 8 00:00:34,431 --> 00:00:38,264 And so a lot of people. Gave up on, say, their own personal 9 00:00:38,264 --> 00:00:43,334 benefit to believe in a cause that was the greater good of society through open 10 00:00:43,334 --> 00:00:46,420 source. Now the thing to also think about, just 11 00:00:46,420 --> 00:00:51,724 kind of in the back of your mind is, if it wasn't for Microsoft, would Netscape have 12 00:00:51,724 --> 00:00:56,950 been successful in its original strategy to make the web and both servers and the 13 00:00:56,950 --> 00:01:01,235 clients, make them proprietary? They were going to sell web browsers. 14 00:01:01,235 --> 00:01:03,725 They were selling web browsers from $70 to $100. 15 00:01:03,725 --> 00:01:06,645 You used to be able to go to a store and buy a web browser. 16 00:01:06,645 --> 00:01:09,328 Your op-, your computer didn't come with a browser. 17 00:01:09,328 --> 00:01:13,364 As a matter of fact, the first time that Microsoft put the browser in with their 18 00:01:13,364 --> 00:01:18,110 operating system, they got sued for it. But by Microsoft trying to catch up, they 19 00:01:18,110 --> 00:01:23,269 had to give away the browser free which made in impossible for Netscape to charge 20 00:01:23,269 --> 00:01:26,985 for browser. And so in some ways, not that Microsoft is 21 00:01:26,985 --> 00:01:32,088 trying to make the world safe, but they basically blunted the, blunted, put 22 00:01:32,088 --> 00:01:37,515 hundreds and millions of dollars into blunting Netscape's strategy and making 23 00:01:37,515 --> 00:01:41,106 sure that. Well, they didn't make it, but it, the net 24 00:01:41,106 --> 00:01:46,418 result was the creation of Firefox and Mozilla, and a much more, and the World 25 00:01:46,418 --> 00:01:50,306 Wide Web Consortium, and a much more fair market place. 26 00:01:50,306 --> 00:01:54,917 So the World Wide Web Consortium, it was created in October of 1994. 27 00:01:54,917 --> 00:02:00,047 Cern Made a conscious decision even though it knew that the web had been created 28 00:02:00,047 --> 00:02:04,987 there, that the sort of future curation of the web and what the web meant was not 29 00:02:04,987 --> 00:02:07,971 something that a physics lab should take on. 30 00:02:07,971 --> 00:02:12,542 And so Tim Berners-Lee went to MIT. Mit welcomed him with open arms, they 31 00:02:12,542 --> 00:02:17,902 funded him, they helped him create the World Wide Web Consortium, and have done a 32 00:02:17,902 --> 00:02:23,342 wonderful job in leading the charge in defining the standard that, that mean make 33 00:02:23,342 --> 00:02:28,940 that, that de, that define the standards that define what HTML is, what CSS is etc. 34 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:34,566 Now, in october 1994, there was no way to know if this was going to be successful. 35 00:02:34,566 --> 00:02:39,606 Again, it was somewhat a reaction to Netscape who had this sort of like. 36 00:02:39,607 --> 00:02:43,936 You know, bunker mentality that Netscape was going to take it all over and own it 37 00:02:43,936 --> 00:02:46,297 and push every, all these open people away. 38 00:02:46,297 --> 00:02:50,600 Tim, and Mitchell, and Joseph, and all these people did not want that to happen. 39 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,938 They felt it should be free for everybody. And open, and many browsers, and many 40 00:02:54,938 --> 00:02:59,159 servers, and everything should interoperate And standards for the heat of 41 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:01,627 that. And the World Wide Web Consortium was 42 00:03:01,627 --> 00:03:06,116 vehicle through which that happened, but they didn't have any power compared to 43 00:03:06,116 --> 00:03:10,109 Netscape and Netscape had all the money. But IBM and Microsoft were not 44 00:03:10,109 --> 00:03:14,633 particularly fans of Netscape either. And so they early on joined the World Wide 45 00:03:14,633 --> 00:03:17,414 Web Consortium and gave it enough credibility. 46 00:03:17,414 --> 00:03:21,868 To eventually sort of take over, in terms of being very respected. 47 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:26,899 And the standards produced by the World Wide Web Consortium are high quality and 48 00:03:26,899 --> 00:03:31,849 very respected and, and, they're, they're a guided, they're a shining light to 49 00:03:31,849 --> 00:03:36,726 keeping the web safe for the rest of us. And let proprietary companies do their 50 00:03:36,726 --> 00:03:41,684 proprietary thing, but the World Wide Web Consortium is a real important part of 51 00:03:41,684 --> 00:03:45,078 today's web. And so we finally come to the point where 52 00:03:45,078 --> 00:03:48,105 you can assume the web where the web is just there. 53 00:03:48,105 --> 00:03:51,689 There was a bunch of browsers. There was a bunch of servers. 54 00:03:51,689 --> 00:03:56,097 There was some open source stuff and non open source stuff and, and I want to 55 00:03:56,097 --> 00:04:01,209 briefly introduce you to Tim Berners-Lee, this footage was taken by Richard Wiggins, 56 00:04:01,209 --> 00:04:04,486 not me. Caught him in a conference and he's only, 57 00:04:04,486 --> 00:04:08,832 we only got a minute of his video. >> Last month I was off in Boston for the 58 00:04:08,832 --> 00:04:13,312 4th Annual World Wide Web Conference, and I had the opportunity to talk to the 59 00:04:13,312 --> 00:04:16,228 inventor of the world wide web, Tim Burners Lee. 60 00:04:16,228 --> 00:04:20,385 And I asked him a little bit about where are we going with this web stuff. 61 00:04:20,385 --> 00:04:25,011 And we have just a little bit of footage from Tim telling us where that's going to 62 00:04:25,011 --> 00:04:27,430 be. >> You ain't seen nothing yet. 63 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:31,611 But you wait until people consume the web. When the web becomes something you 64 00:04:31,611 --> 00:04:35,381 consume, when the web, when the infrastructure is all laid down and we 65 00:04:35,381 --> 00:04:39,352 have an information space, then it would be time for the next revolution. 66 00:04:39,352 --> 00:04:42,917 And who knows what that will be. >> It's hard to imagine a greater 67 00:04:42,917 --> 00:04:47,000 revolution that what we've seen. I mean, I go to the smallest places and 68 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,695 everybody's putting up a web page. >> Right, the web could only take place, 69 00:04:50,695 --> 00:04:54,697 the revolution, the web revolution could only take place because of the Internet, 70 00:04:54,697 --> 00:04:58,003 which had been a quieter, smaller revolution, but that had been, the 71 00:04:58,003 --> 00:05:02,094 Internet itself quietly had been deployed throughout the world, had happened. 72 00:05:02,094 --> 00:05:05,913 And because the Internet was something people could assume, the web revolution 73 00:05:05,913 --> 00:05:08,631 could take place. And the web is something you can assume, 74 00:05:08,631 --> 00:05:11,966 then maybe a cultural revolution, and I say, cultural revolution. 75 00:05:11,966 --> 00:05:15,565 And when we talk about cultural revolution, perhaps, or maybe we'll find 76 00:05:15,565 --> 00:05:18,199 ways of doing things better that we hadn't imagined. 77 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:18,214 >> Pretty neat, Rich. One of the things that I, I liked about it 78 00:05:18,214 --> 00:05:18,214 was he, he just said we're going, his idea was the next step is something completely 79 00:05:18,214 --> 00:05:18,302 different, a cultural revolution as to compared to just a little more technology. 80 00:05:18,302 --> 00:05:18,632 Ne of the things that I, I liked about it was he, he just said we're going, his idea 81 00:05:18,632 --> 00:05:18,972 was the next step is something completely different, a cultural revolution as to 82 00:05:18,972 --> 00:05:21,272 compared to just a little more technology. One of the things that I, I liked about it 83 00:05:21,272 --> 00:05:25,481 was he, he just said we're going, his idea was the next step is something completely 84 00:05:25,481 --> 00:05:29,706 different, a cultural revolution as to compared to just a little more technology. 85 00:05:29,706 --> 00:05:33,114 >> I think you can see that Tim Berners-Lee is a real bright guy with a 86 00:05:33,114 --> 00:05:36,322 real strong vision of the future and a real deep commitment. 87 00:05:36,323 --> 00:05:41,626 To the, the web and the internet being an agent of change in the world. 88 00:05:41,626 --> 00:05:47,584 And, and I think that it's going to continue to be that, unless proprietary 89 00:05:47,584 --> 00:05:53,027 companies can get an upper hand. And so, it's really incumbent on all of us 90 00:05:53,027 --> 00:05:58,519 to protect the freedom of the internet. And there's, there's, believe me, there 91 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:03,136 are organizations that think they should run the internet and the web. 92 00:06:03,136 --> 00:06:05,770 There just are. They never have stopped. 93 00:06:05,770 --> 00:06:10,119 So we're at the point where the web is all here, it's quite amazing. 94 00:06:10,119 --> 00:06:14,955 And before we move on, I want to, I want to characterize just a little bit about 95 00:06:14,955 --> 00:06:20,181 the people you've met so far and, and talk about some of the common, common things 96 00:06:20,181 --> 00:06:25,113 that, that they, they have between them. And in a way this, I got the book the 97 00:06:25,113 --> 00:06:28,061 Wisdom of Crowds here, one of my favorite books. 98 00:06:28,061 --> 00:06:32,824 Each one of these people when you listen to them talk, they would quite often talk 99 00:06:32,824 --> 00:06:37,581 about all the other people doing all the other work and, and they rarely consider 100 00:06:37,581 --> 00:06:41,654 themselves in any way heroes. They rarely consider themselves as the 101 00:06:41,654 --> 00:06:45,027 great innovators. They always see themselves as part of a 102 00:06:45,027 --> 00:06:49,588 collective curiosity. And there were many things that I haven't 103 00:06:49,588 --> 00:06:55,017 told you about that were curious explorations that helped inform it and, 104 00:06:55,017 --> 00:07:00,980 and this was early research, and you know until sort of the late 90's, it was just a 105 00:07:00,980 --> 00:07:05,805 question of how to do it. And at some point, after the late 90's it 106 00:07:05,805 --> 00:07:11,679 switched to what to do with it and at that point we have a whole different group of 107 00:07:11,679 --> 00:07:15,646 people that start, really entering the world. 108 00:07:15,646 --> 00:07:20,995 And, and one that's, one of the earlier one's and has benefited greatly from it is 109 00:07:20,995 --> 00:07:25,753 Jeff Bezos and he's the founder of Amazon.com and If you listen to Jeff you 110 00:07:25,753 --> 00:07:30,584 will hear that he talks very differently. Comes at it from a business perspective. 111 00:07:30,584 --> 00:07:34,418 He's not necessarily trying to make the world a worse place, he's trying to make 112 00:07:34,418 --> 00:07:37,552 the world a better place. The fact that you can get, you know, all 113 00:07:37,552 --> 00:07:40,410 these books like the next morning, that's kind of cool. 114 00:07:40,411 --> 00:07:46,127 So what Amazon does is really wonderful, it's, it It's more efficient for society, 115 00:07:46,127 --> 00:07:50,104 it's economically beneficial, but he has a profit in mind. 116 00:07:50,104 --> 00:07:54,881 He is saying this web exists, browsers exist, protocols exist. 117 00:07:54,881 --> 00:08:01,640 How can I take best advantage of it? Richard Wiggins caught up with Jeff in 118 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,511 1997 so just look at How smart this guy was in 1997. 119 00:08:05,511 --> 00:08:12,027 Everyone else figured this out much later, but Jeff Bezos is a really, really bright 120 00:08:12,027 --> 00:08:14,482 person. So, here's Jeff Bezos.