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i think we'll give a few more minutes
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panelists to join in
laura lot from aam and jessica and then

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we'll get started

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okay laura is on the webinar
so it's 302 and i think

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we should get started so hello everyone
i'm paula genkapadia deputy director in

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the office of museum services
at imls welcoming you to today's realm

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webinar
on kobed and museum uh we want to thank

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all 700 plus attendees that have
pre-registered for this webinar

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for making time uh to learn from the
scientific findings of the realm project

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and also from aam and your peers who
will be joining

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me in a conversation uh during the later
part of this webinar

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i'm as many of you know is the primary
source of federal funding

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for our nation's museums and libraries
but in addition to being the funder

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we play a critical role as per our
mission

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to convene and converse with various
stakeholders

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engage in research all aim to better
inform our constituents the realm

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project
is one such important effort and we are

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delighted
to engage with our partners from oclc

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battelle am and other museum and library
associations

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as well as funders like melon carnegie
and many of the other cultural

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organizations
today's webinar is divided in two parts

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sharon streams from oclc we'll be
presenting the first half

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and they'll be you know sharing a pretty
comprehensive

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overview of the findings thus far
especially applicable to the museum

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sector
the second part of the webinar will

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focus on a conversation
that i'll moderate with laura lot from

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kevin hines from the carnegie museums

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and jessica hickey from the arizona
science center we will discuss the state

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of affairs
as they stand today best practices

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lessons learned and what more you need
you know on behalf of the museum we

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wanted to share with you that the
webinar

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is being recorded and uh we will be
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uh in two parts one we will pause after
sharon has finished her presentation of

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part one
and then we will take a second set of

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questions after we have
uh we are done with the conversation

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with laura
kevin and jessica please do know that we

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may not be able to answer
all questions but we have kept that

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in in our mind and the last slide of the
presentation has the contact information

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of all of us
the email addresses so if your question

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has not been answered
feel free to write uh you know to any of

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us
i think i have permission from all the

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panelists here
and they'll be delighted to you know ask

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answer your questions
uh remember that you know like i

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mentioned this is an effort on behalf of
imls

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uh but this effort can only be
successful

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if what we are sharing is helpful for
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but this is in no way uh you know it's
it's a start of an effort

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it will continue and we would like to be
informed and educated

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about your needs so that we and the
steering committee of realm

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and imls can align the work that's going
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so without further ado i would now like
to turn it over to sharon streams

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to present the findings of the realm
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thanks so much paula and good afternoon
everyone i'm really happy to be

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with you today and i'm going to be
asking um daniel

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to um drive the slides on my behalf so
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um let's go for it
um let's go one more um well yeah yeah

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you can
you can see me so you don't need to see

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my picture um but
i'm i'm here to speak to you wearing um

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one of my hats which is as the realm
project director

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for the oclc which is a global library
technology company

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my other primary role is director of web
junction which is a program that

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provides free professional
development continuing education for

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library staff across the country and
beyond and

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so while i've had the privilege of
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with libraries and museums on on certain
projects my

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experience and knowledge is grounded
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in the library sector so i'm really also
looking forward to

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listening and learning from you today
through your questions and comments

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so as paula mentioned i'm going to give
you an overview of the realm project

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and to start what is realm an acronym
for well it's for

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reopening archives libraries and museums
and it's a project that formed out of a

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research partnership
that developed early er this year

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between
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research company battelle
and this project was devised in the

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really early days of the covid pandemic
and to produce unique and

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original research that's directly
relevant to how libraries archives and

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museums can handle materials
and conduct operations that will help

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mitigate
exposure of kovid 19 to both staff

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and visitors so the short url that's on
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will take you to the hub for the round
project so this

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is a website where you can find all the
information that i'm touching on today

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all the results so both about about the
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and the results of the project we
continually add new information to this

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hub and we also announce
these updates through a mailing list

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that's dedicated to the realm project
and so we do encourage you to subscribe

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to that if you're not already receiving
project updates

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we issue those just maybe once every two
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and we have over 10 000 subscribers thus
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you can also follow oclc imls
and aam all and other organizations

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to get news and information uh through
social media

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um about the project for those of you on
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who wish to surface information related
to the project

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so you know we'll see it this way too
use the hashtag

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um realm project and um then that will
help continue the conversation

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next slide please

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so first this slide capture is just a
really high level summary of the primary

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activities that realm has been
conducting over the past eight months

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and then i will give some further
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all of these after that so the project
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two scientific literature reviews this
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is currently underway we have had
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and engagement with an executive project
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working groups and other subject matter
experts that all have representatives

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from across
museums libraries archives both at the

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individual institution level the
group level and the association level

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we have created toolkit resources that
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intended to make the information the the
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easy to read easy to share snapshots
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the sort of more dense research findings
and also to gather and share

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illustrative examples from
institutions that show what those

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institutions are doing in terms of
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and operational considerations and also
sharing guidelines that may be created

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by other
organizations that are also drawing upon

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science-based evidence-based information
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one of the sectors or all of the sectors

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we are sharing the project information
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through that project website that i
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drawing upon a network of member
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and support organizations that are um
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out to their membership as well so
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broader
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and of course so much has been so
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with the pandemic
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and the
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the project
is listening learning and adapting along

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the way
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um i think it's
thank you okay so um but just a a couple

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level sets right before i get into more
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is really to just to say what realm
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to help us all better understand the
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and the project is
saying you know please use that data to

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help inform
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but what the project is not doing is
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one size fit all recommendations or
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i think most of you you know really
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that you're so embedded in your
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is different and you need to you're
developing policies and practices that

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work for your local context
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experts in public health departments and
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in response to your user community
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that being said we really understand the
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um you have all been under um as you're
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sound thoughtful decisions in an
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that's really a combination of urgency
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so with this project
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concerns
initially around circulating library

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collections
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at that time earlier this spring
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transmission was considered of
a grave concern and so the project

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was to really understand more
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what is going on with her surfaces and
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the institutions adapt to that
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project sort of a change in focus
with less concern about materials

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transmission
to other transmission routes too and

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we see that as we do the literature
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and of course you know track the general
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but what this project has been doing is
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scientific knowledge along the way and
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picture because there was such a sense
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we didn't wait and say okay we're going
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all the research and ask all the
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and then you know a year later issue a
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so what it's been doing is just issuing
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just as we have discovered them so you
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you get um information immediately but
it's only one piece of the puzzle

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um so one of the things is to try to
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cohesive story
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in the in the news media and
in the general you know there's like one

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one study is published
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to that and it sort of fans a new theory
um that might sound like settled science

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but it's
but then something comes out a couple

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months later that's
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things so
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complexity that's in there
um also the project is not trying to

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cover the entire breadth of the
questions and the considerations related

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to covet 19
but has been more focused on a few

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research
questions to that to really you know

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be one piece to help your local decision
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in combination what is coming out of
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you know public health departments in
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i wanted to just draw attention to a
really excellent article that's in the

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british medical journal
it was published earlier this spring

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i'll just pop it into chat here
that gives a really nice

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overview about this this very situation
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of trying to make well-informed and
thoughtful decisions under complex

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conditions
i mean you read it you'll probably

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recognize yourself in it and basically
you know these are experts who've worked

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in this in in these types of public
health crises before and they say

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um you know you're doing a great job and
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that it's not possible to just have
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answers all the time and right away
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okay with that i just wanted to talk
about what's the

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status of covid19 research overall
and this is um this is a summary

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from the first two literature reviews um
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the second and one which which was
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and i just put a link to where you can
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and kind of
maybe sound sort of perversely but i'm

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going to start with what is not known
yet and these are the known unknowns and

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and you hopefully have heard these in
other places too but it is important to

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bear in mind
um these these important things that we

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do not know yet
and one is it's not known how much a

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virus an infected person sheds so
shedding you know when they cough or

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they sneeze
or through other excretions um how many

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virus particles are coming off them and
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and at what point in their
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i'm not known and for other viruses
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a significant variation from just a very
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number of particles to more the hundreds
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we also don't know whether people are
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um there have been um
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objects have been
more definitively determined to be the

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source or strongly um considered to be
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so that's still a question mark around
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um and third we don't know how much or
how little virus is needed to cause

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infection so how much you need to get
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your bloodstream your your lungs or
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your air passages in order to get an
infection next slide please

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um so with that backdrop um
the literature reviews have been driven

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by three questions
one is how might the virus spread

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through
general operations at your at your

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museum or
libraries or archives um how long does

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the virus remain
active or infectious on surfaces

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that it's sitting on or embedded in
and then how effective are prevention

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and decontamination
measures against the virus in those

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settings and in the situations

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so you'll notice that these literature
questions are focused about the behavior

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of the virus of sars kovid
ii in the environment and not about the

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disease covid19 that results so not
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what happens after a person that's been
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so at the time of the
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basically where things were was that
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droplets that are expelled from an
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from a sneeze or coughing or speaking
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talking all those things i think
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but then there's the possibles um so the
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transmissions are really that direct
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or very close to another person and the
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droplets
aerosol particles um there's there has

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been growing evidence that
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at the time in in you know this fall
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had sort of uh
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kind of ends of of the um
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call that possible but not settled
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on the on the other end are contaminated
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surfaces which are also called fomites
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it's just more of a question of whether
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it is for this particular virus um but
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considered to be
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form of transmission
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other forms of transmission are bodily
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um and you know from tears
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those are have been studied more as the
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we also our understanding that
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spread and lower does not
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pollutants in there
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seems to be a better environment for
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of course air flow so
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um at the time you know there is still
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level of the risk that these various
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but still a lot to be understood about
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show that are effective one is
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physical distancing so that those
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hand washing or hand sanitizing
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possibility of transference from from
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urine or feces and then masks
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um is is really kind of a
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territory of those possible risk of
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and again you know maximizing fresh air
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then when we get into uh how do you
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that's when you get into certain
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shown to be to be effective against
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similar viruses
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research around
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in
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appropriately
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so that's the literature review
and now i'm going to move into the

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talking about the lab testing so next
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and most of the pictures on these slides
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so next slide
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driving
the the lab testing with there have been

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remain
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found in archives libraries and museums
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viable
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not entirely accurate but helpful
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so i might use those um terms
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but hopefully the meaning is is clear to
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what we wanted to do with this research
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real world conditions so
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the
the sort of maybe the the easiest method

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at considered the time was if you just
leave something alone

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just let it sit there if you think it's
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how long would it be where you would say
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or a week well then it gets the the
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beyond the point of diminishing returns
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quarantining or leaving let things lie
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relatively pragmatic tactic
um but it really needs to be considered

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in the balan balance with
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you have
people coming in your space you can't

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say don't touch anything
don't touch the banister don't touch the

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walls don't touch you know the
interactive displays um

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or if you have a huge number of
of materials that have been handled that

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you're concerned about but you don't
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another
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you know it's it's a one
it's it's one question if you have

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a surge of covid19 cases rising in your
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um versus um you know there are
occasions when there there is not any um

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any um signs that
is not is active among the people that

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may be using your facilities

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so for those of you who may be
following this scientific research about

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the virus you might be aware that there
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two types of tests and this is in really
basic ways one that a

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is a test is just detecting presence of
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so little bits of a virus rna
but it's not really determining whether

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those virus particles are
inactive or active so are they capable

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of infection or not
so one test is just looking at presence

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of virus
the other one is focused on measuring

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infectious virus particles only so i
just want to be clear that the battelle

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research for the realm project is using
that latter method so what i'm going to

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be
showing to you is presence of infectious

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virus
materials next slide please

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um so here are pictures of the material
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one of the tests where they're prepping
the materials for the lab

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so as i mentioned there have been six
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thus far that have been completed and in
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there are five different materials that
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and what they do is take a sample of
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and cut it into these small rectangular
coupons so you can see stacks of the

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coupons of the various materials that
are that were tested here

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and then then those materials the the
researchers

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apply the virus that's suspended in this
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so they're applying it on there so it's
sort of simulating

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you know a sneeze from an infectious
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they sneezed on this material and it got
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then those are materials
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either in a stacked or unstacked
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so they might be laid out on a rack that
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or if if it makes more sense of how that
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is used in the real world conditions
they could be stacked

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where their surface to surface is
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um so that there's not really so that
the virus kind of sandwiched between

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materials
and then those um those racks with the

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coupons are put inside a chamber
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for the all the tests done today the

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temperature was kind of simulating let's
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between 68 and 72
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30 to 50 percent
this chamber doesn't have outside air

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air coming
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consider it like a stagnant
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and then that's uh held in a biohazard
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so these are labs that are designed to
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very hazardous substances you know
like infectious diseases patel's worked

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with
things scary things like ricin and

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anthrax
sars mers

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some other viruses
and there's only 200 labs in in the

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whole country for this
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particular that they can have this
infectious virus in this lab

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next slide please so then at each
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the the test samples are are removed
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they are added to a cell culture so
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um to see if the virus actually
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that means this is infectious virus
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cellular interaction
the researchers use a formula to

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calculate from that how much
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so they're able to track that
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there
just putting another link in the in the

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um
chat there that will take you to the

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test plan that gives all the gory
details about this

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um but they are able to to measure the
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all the way to the point that it gets to
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and this is where there there are fewer
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particles of virus left on the coupon
after that point there's not enough for

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it really to
show enough interaction with the cell

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culture so instead they look
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at each coupon for that day
and say do we see any virus on there or

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not
and when the answer is no they do not

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see it on any of the coupons
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of detection
so no virus is found at all

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next slide please so that is the
process in a nutshell and now here's an

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example
um from uh let's look at test six which

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was the most recent
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was on hard surfaces listed here
glass marble laminate brass and powder

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coated steel

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and let's go to the next slide and uh
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show you what this looks like in graph
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each of those are color-coded lines on
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and you see that the brass which is a
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and the marble which is kind of a rust
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all the way down to zero the limit of
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on day two um and
while the others also dropped

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significantly that day
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so um that's what um patel
um presented to to us in the form of a

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chart and if you go to the next slide
this is kind of the the friendly um

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easy to read version of that slide
that shows the five materials that were

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tested under hide services and again
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no virus found after two days
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and then
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and next slide please
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graph shows all of the materials that
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and the results of those same types of
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through those six testing rounds so this
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thing where we have in some cases
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and then in other cases
after eight days there were still some

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virus detected
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i'm gonna drop another link in here
next slide please

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here are just some snapshots of the
toolkit resources

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that you'll find on the website that
encapsulate

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and synthesize some of the things that i
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about the literature review and about
the the testing

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that again these are all pdfs that you
can download you can share

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with your constituents with your
decision makers with your

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health departments just as as
as fodder for your decision making

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and next slide please

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and then i just want to end before i
turn to questions

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um with some things that you can go for
more information

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is so again if you go to the the hub the
the the realm website um there is one of

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the main
sections is called research so you'll

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find the research both the full
reports the testing plan as well as

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charts and graphs and
and and summaries um to explain the

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results
the resources section have the toolkit

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materials and there's one section that's
dedicated to

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museums in particular and as i said
in addition to graphics and

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illustrations of the realm of sponsored
research

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there are also guidelines
illustrative examples that we have

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curated and pulled in that
have been created by other organizations

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or institutions
there's a form that you can submit

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questions to the realm inbox
it'll be either me or my um

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00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.839
my colleague kendra who will probably be
answering you

463
00:37:13.839 --> 00:37:17.680
we do read those and we do really
appreciate your questions

464
00:37:17.680 --> 00:37:22.720
um those questions have helped inform
an faq which you'll also find on the

465
00:37:22.720 --> 00:37:27.119
website there
we update those as a new kind of if

466
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.480
there's new thematic questions that come
up but it does answer

467
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.520
all of the most frequently asked one and
then again

468
00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:37.760
join that mailing list if you want to
get direct news and updates from the

469
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:44.800
project
all right thank you thank you sharon

470
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:50.800
and now we can take some questions
do you want to take a quick look at the

471
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:56.000
question box and
maybe take like five to eight minutes we

472
00:37:56.000 --> 00:38:00.320
are a little tight on time
uh to answer any question that may

473
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.839
benefit
all the attendees

474
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:19.839
i am not seeing the questions
okay in my

475
00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:25.200
are there any that i don't see anything
in

476
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:32.079
in the question box okay
yeah i have a question for

477
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.359
elizabeth from imls do you see any
questions coming up that sharon can

478
00:38:37.359 --> 00:38:39.760
answer

479
00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:48.079
there's a couple questions that have
been coming in i've posted those for our

480
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:52.400
organizers and panelists in the chat

481
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:03.520
okay i see a question speak a bit more
about virus found on a surface versus

482
00:39:03.520 --> 00:39:07.839
infectiousness of the virus when found

483
00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:16.880
so it's
definite i would say it's it's

484
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.920
definitely possible you know again if
someone sneezes or coughs on a surface

485
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:26.240
and they are infected with covid that
it's going to transfer

486
00:39:26.240 --> 00:39:29.280
virus particles through that sneezer
cough to

487
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:35.359
the surface that they um that they
uh splattered on just as same as if it

488
00:39:35.359 --> 00:39:38.320
was a person right a person an object
can receive it

489
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:43.839
i think what the sort of the big
question is

490
00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:49.280
because we don't know how many virus
particles it takes for someone to get

491
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:56.079
infected but there's also the the
how how likely or how

492
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.599
possible or how much would it take for
someone to then

493
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:04.079
touch that surface and then need to
you know you're not going to get sick

494
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.520
just from touching it then you have to
be able to transfer it say you know

495
00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:12.000
to your mouth or to your nose your eyes
or somehow so it gets inside your body

496
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:17.359
and capable infection
um so the um the

497
00:40:17.359 --> 00:40:20.960
so far with trying to do um tracing back
of

498
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:27.359
of sources of transmissions it's been uh
there's only uh there are very few cases

499
00:40:27.359 --> 00:40:31.760
that have been where
where that form of transmission has been

500
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.520
found to be
the source of it um but it's also really

501
00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:39.920
hard
to trace trace that so um

502
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:44.720
and without knowing both how much an
infectious person sheds and how much it

503
00:40:44.720 --> 00:40:48.000
takes to infect someone there's just
some of these you know those known

504
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.560
unknowns get in the way
um so what we're doing with the lab

505
00:40:52.560 --> 00:40:57.599
testing is kind of showing
the lifespan of a virus on surfaces so

506
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:03.359
it sort of answers the first part is
um if you get virus on a on a substance

507
00:41:03.359 --> 00:41:07.359
how long will it sit there and being
active

508
00:41:07.359 --> 00:41:12.800
and how quickly does it you know does it
attenuate or dissipate

509
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:19.200
what we can't answer yet is and then
if someone touches it with then then how

510
00:41:19.200 --> 00:41:23.200
likely are they
going to get infected

511
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.839
and then

512
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.960
okay boy now they're now they're all
flying in so

513
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:46.800
uh were tests done in live environments
um they were done in a laboratory

514
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.040
environment so the
the materials many of the materials were

515
00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:54.400
donated from actual
institutions so they came out of either

516
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.480
circulating collections or spaces others
were purchased from members but

517
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.079
they were infected with virus that was
grown

518
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:08.480
in a lab and then held in a lab so
it was not going into say like an

519
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:17.839
infected environment and scraping
off virus from spaces

520
00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:22.480
um i see a link to an article in the
washington post i think it's the one

521
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.280
that came out yeah just a couple days
ago about

522
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.560
um airborne transmission and and over
cleaning yeah i think um there's some

523
00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:35.839
really you know there's some really good
um you know discussion about this about

524
00:42:35.839 --> 00:42:42.000
um the difference between over cleaning
and appropriate cleaning i did think

525
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:46.800
that the article in the washington post
was sort of a little bit blithely

526
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.480
assuming that
having people wear a mask and wash your

527
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:57.680
hands was just a no-brainer in a given
um you know if everybody did that very

528
00:42:57.680 --> 00:43:01.119
consistently and across the board i
think that

529
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.720
that those two things would would cover
a lot of the territory

530
00:43:04.720 --> 00:43:08.800
um but i but you know we understand what
we hear from

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from the community of museums and
libraries is that

532
00:43:12.160 --> 00:43:15.680
there isn't a hundred percent adherence
so having

533
00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:18.960
some cleaning and disinfection um
tactics

534
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.040
um to use in cases where you're
concerned that trans

535
00:43:23.040 --> 00:43:28.319
that something may have been
contaminated seems appropriate

536
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.079
i don't i want to just do a time check
because i know i think we should take

537
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.079
one question and then i think we have to
move to part

538
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.119
two because we don't have too much time
left

539
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:47.200
um and i and i will continue i will put
responses in the chat

540
00:43:47.200 --> 00:43:50.240
during the part two that would be
perfect that'll be perfect

541
00:43:50.240 --> 00:43:54.800
for me yeah good time yeah do you want
to do that now absolutely

542
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.400
go on because we just have half an hour
perfect

543
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.520
okay thank you so much sharon and i
think uh

544
00:44:01.520 --> 00:44:05.520
i love seeing the the questions uh that
are coming in the

545
00:44:05.520 --> 00:44:10.319
in the question box keep them coming
sharon promises to answer them now

546
00:44:10.319 --> 00:44:13.920
or you know we will answer them later so
at this point

547
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:18.000
um let's move on to part two of our
webinar

548
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:23.359
and uh like i mentioned we have laura
lot from aam

549
00:44:23.359 --> 00:44:27.839
and kevin and jessica so thank you all
for joining

550
00:44:27.839 --> 00:44:31.119
laura i would like to begin with you
giving us

551
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.040
uh an update on the state of affairs as
they stand now

552
00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:40.240
you have been an active partner with
imls you're serving on the

553
00:44:40.240 --> 00:44:46.079
steering committee of you know the realm
project you have been in conversations

554
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.200
with our director across vni
on you know right from you know march

555
00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.720
onwards and we are
doing a lot of communications with you

556
00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:57.839
um i want to start by saying a big thank
you to what you

557
00:44:57.839 --> 00:45:05.440
are doing um to keep the sector informed
uh so if you can take a few minutes and

558
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:11.280
shed some light on where things stand
what are some of the changes you're

559
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.079
seeing what are some of the needs that
you're seeing

560
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:19.040
um you also received a cares act grant
from imls

561
00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:23.280
am did so what are your plans for that
so let me turn it over to you

562
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.440
and take some time to enlighten us
thanks paula i appreciate that um those

563
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.240
nice comments and
and the opportunity to be with all of

564
00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:36.400
you today and i will be really brief
because i think the um

565
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.240
how how all of this gets applied in
museums is really critical and i know

566
00:45:40.240 --> 00:45:45.119
kevin and jessica are
uh have some great information to share

567
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.760
um but i
i just want to whenever i'm asked about

568
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.520
to talk a little bit about the state of
museums these days i have to start um

569
00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:55.680
with an acknowledgement in about the
state of museum people

570
00:45:55.680 --> 00:45:59.599
um i know we're talking a lot about
science and data and facts and figures

571
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:03.680
and i won't go into um you know all of
the ways that

572
00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:06.880
we know that this current environment is
um

573
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:11.440
is impacting uh the people that work in
and make up museums and and certainly

574
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.800
our audiences
i think that i just want to say the most

575
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:20.480
important thing for you to know is that
um you're not alone um all of us on this

576
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:24.560
webinar and i know at imls
i know crosby and paula share this we're

577
00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:28.640
deeply grateful for all that you're
doing to serve your communities despite

578
00:46:28.640 --> 00:46:34.160
these unprecedented times
to keep people safe in and around your

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00:46:34.160 --> 00:46:36.800
museums
and to give people respite and

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00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:41.040
inspiration and information so
thank you for all you do i wanted to if

581
00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:44.720
you could um advance the slides for me
that would be great

582
00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:48.800
whoever is behind the magic while doing
that um i just wanted to share a couple

583
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.640
of um
key points from our recent coved um uh

584
00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:57.599
19 impact survey
uh which was um results from over 850

585
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.760
museums
uh across the country uh they answered

586
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.359
these questions in october
so since this is a rapidly changing

587
00:47:05.359 --> 00:47:10.000
situation i i'll add a couple of
comments uh an observation since then

588
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.319
um but uh this was an update to a june
survey that we did that got a lot of

589
00:47:14.319 --> 00:47:18.079
press with the terrible news that one in
three museums was at risk of permanently

590
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:22.000
closing
um due to the financial implications of

591
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.280
the
current of the pandemic and the closures

592
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.920
across the country
um the full report is on am's website so

593
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.160
i'm just going to cover a couple of key
things here

594
00:47:32.160 --> 00:47:38.160
next slide our survey
confirmed that 98 of museums were closed

595
00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:41.920
to the public at some point
this year so this is a widespread impact

596
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:47.119
and the next slide will show you that
29 uh remained closed um

597
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:51.520
uh even in october um so never never
really opened this year

598
00:47:51.520 --> 00:47:55.760
many children's museums many small
spaces that didn't have space for

599
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.640
distancing
um and of course this was before the

600
00:47:58.640 --> 00:48:01.280
latest round of reclosings of museums in
many

601
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.640
uh communities due to the latest spikes
in the virus

602
00:48:04.640 --> 00:48:11.200
um next slide even before this latest
round of reclosings 40 of these still

603
00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:14.079
closed museums
did not have an identified date to

604
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:18.880
reopen um and now
i suspect that most museums won't be

605
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:22.400
reopening until after the new year or
significantly into the new year

606
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.000
um perhaps when we reach a point where
a large percentage of the population is

607
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.119
is vaccinated which means that a lot
a large portion of our field will have

608
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:36.480
been closed for an entire
year the next slide show is an attempt

609
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.359
to show
kind of the precipitous rate of closures

610
00:48:39.359 --> 00:48:42.480
last march
this happened really fast as you all

611
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:48.079
know and the orange line shows
how slow and spread out the reopening of

612
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:52.640
museums has been
across the the rest of the year um

613
00:48:52.640 --> 00:48:56.319
there's a little
green line that shows that museums had

614
00:48:56.319 --> 00:48:59.760
to some museums ended up having to
reclose in june and july when we had

615
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.720
that spike
and then they're sort of slow reopening

616
00:49:02.720 --> 00:49:07.359
over the following months almost flat
um purple line there um so this is a

617
00:49:07.359 --> 00:49:11.040
real moving target
as i said and um we will continue to

618
00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:15.520
monitor this
um with you know the latest reclosings

619
00:49:15.520 --> 00:49:19.839
and
hopefully reopenings next slide

620
00:49:19.839 --> 00:49:25.040
um museums that are uh open are
experiencing on average 35

621
00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:30.319
of their normal attendance so even those
that are reopening are still um are

622
00:49:30.319 --> 00:49:34.240
still struggling to
to get folks um in the doors even though

623
00:49:34.240 --> 00:49:37.920
we have no information that there has
ever been a coveted

624
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.800
outbreak traced to a museum either among
staff or among visitors which is

625
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.000
which is good news um and i think shows
that museums are taking a lot of

626
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:52.480
precautions to keep their spaces
uh super safe for um for people

627
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:56.800
the next slide um there's a lot of
information on

628
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.000
the financial implications of all of
this but the major point here since

629
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.520
we're talking about
sort of reopening and safety measures i

630
00:50:03.520 --> 00:50:08.160
wanted to point out
is that um museums have spent

631
00:50:08.160 --> 00:50:12.079
uh you know significant amounts of money
preparing to reopen safely on average

632
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.440
about twenty seven thousand dollars and
as high as three quarters of a million

633
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.559
dollars
so we know that some of the measures are

634
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:24.880
pretty expensive
next slide um as i mentioned up front

635
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.640
about one in three or 29 percent in the
latest survey

636
00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:32.800
um uh said that there was a significant
risk of closing

637
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.800
permanently um or that or the museum
just didn't know how it would survive

638
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.800
and this is something that am is
is first and foremost focused on in our

639
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.559
work both with the um
cares act grant that we received and and

640
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:48.400
all of our other
um work around uh advocacy and sort of

641
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:52.960
helping museums both to
um make the case that they uh

642
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.520
that they are in uh need and need to be
supported as well as

643
00:50:57.520 --> 00:51:00.720
providing resources for museums to look
at different ways to reach audiences

644
00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:03.920
digitally
um to embrace new audiences so there's

645
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:08.960
some data out there that shows that
50 of the online audiences that are

646
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.559
accessing museums in that new way for
them this year have never actually

647
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.839
stepped foot in the actual museum so
it's a whole new audience

648
00:51:15.839 --> 00:51:19.440
uh for museums and and so we want to
help to

649
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:24.079
find ways to keep that and build on that
the next slide

650
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.640
um my last slide here is that back in
march

651
00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:33.440
aem launched a free comprehensive page
of resources on our website to help

652
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:37.440
museums navigate these
impacts of the virus and this has

653
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.960
continued to grow and be updated
with help from the field along the way

654
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.720
so
there are a number of reopening

655
00:51:46.720 --> 00:51:49.440
checklists
the information that sharon just

656
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.720
prevented presented from the realm
project around

657
00:51:52.720 --> 00:51:57.119
best practices for um certain cleaning
services

658
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:03.440
uh sample reopening plans for museums
and then other information around the

659
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:07.599
financial implications
of the pandemic on museums and looking

660
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:12.160
at different business models and
fiscal strategies and really importantly

661
00:52:12.160 --> 00:52:17.040
continuing to
center equity in our work as museums

662
00:52:17.040 --> 00:52:22.000
even well and especially while
we manage the implications of the

663
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.200
pandemic which we know are

664
00:52:25.359 --> 00:52:29.119
especially um harming our communities of
color

665
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:34.640
so lots of information there and i will
leave it at that for now i think

666
00:52:34.640 --> 00:52:38.160
how much laura for sharing you know very
insightful data

667
00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:43.119
we have also been um you know
referencing uh some of your findings so

668
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.160
now let's move uh and get some insight
from

669
00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:52.319
the practitioners point of view uh kevin
and jessica welcome and i'm going to

670
00:52:52.319 --> 00:52:54.880
introduce both of you together so that
we again

671
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.200
optimize time and not lose uh any more
time in between

672
00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:02.800
we would love to know from you what you
are doing

673
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.880
uh within your institutions uh because
i'm sure you know these

674
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:11.520
uh eight nine months have been uh like
all hands on the deck

675
00:53:11.520 --> 00:53:16.800
approach and very fast iterative
problem solving in a sort of approach

676
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.960
but as you are sharing uh
along with what you're what along with

677
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.119
sharing
what you're doing within your

678
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:26.800
institutions uh we would really like you
to share

679
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:30.160
some of the lessons learned how you have
adapted

680
00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:34.319
you know what you started with and it
didn't work maybe uh so some lessons

681
00:53:34.319 --> 00:53:37.200
learned and anything that you have
created

682
00:53:37.200 --> 00:53:42.319
um you know um as as you were sort of
building and as you were going

683
00:53:42.319 --> 00:53:46.400
anything that you can share with the
sector you know through this webinar uh

684
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:50.400
would really be good because we know
that everyone is scrambling so with that

685
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.640
i turn it over to kevin uh for you to
first present

686
00:53:54.640 --> 00:53:58.400
okay thank you paul and thank you for
having me here today

687
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:04.240
uh next slide after
uh three months of closure beginning in

688
00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:07.520
march we opened our doors back up in
june

689
00:54:07.520 --> 00:54:12.880
uh but before we did that we focused on
three primary areas

690
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:18.400
our staff safety and protocols visitors
safety and protocols and our building

691
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:24.000
cleaning and safety
we did a lot of work ahead of time

692
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.080
drafting
policies um

693
00:54:27.080 --> 00:54:31.680
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we we implemented the temperature taking

694
00:54:31.680 --> 00:54:35.920
made sure we had ppe
available

695
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.559
socially distancing everybody not only
in their offices but when they had to

696
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:44.319
eat
setting up plexiglass the one thing i

697
00:54:44.319 --> 00:54:47.520
think that was really helpful to the
staff

698
00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:51.040
was safety and de-escalation training
that

699
00:54:51.040 --> 00:54:56.960
um when we opened back up there was a
fair amount of pushback in particular

700
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:04.160
wearing a face mask and it did cost
uh friction with visitors

701
00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:08.799
in pennsylvania there's a
requirement that if you have a medical

702
00:55:08.799 --> 00:55:12.400
condition we can't question it so you
can come in

703
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:16.559
and a lot of people would come in
without a mask

704
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:19.680
if they didn't have a medical condition
we would have to remove them from the

705
00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:23.760
property
we had to do it a couple times so

706
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.119
but we really prepared weeks in advance
of opening

707
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.839
next slide

708
00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:38.640
from a visitor's standpoint um we made
it very clear to visitors

709
00:55:38.640 --> 00:55:41.680
what they could expect when they would
visit

710
00:55:41.680 --> 00:55:46.480
we wanted them to wear masks we wanted
social distancing

711
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:50.559
directional signs we made sure that
there's ppe

712
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:54.079
available not only for employees but for
visitors

713
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.359
you can have a mask and maybe a strap
breaks

714
00:55:57.359 --> 00:56:02.960
we wanted that to be available
about a week or so ago and i don't know

715
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:07.440
if you know in pennsylvania they closed
down museums this past saturday

716
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:13.040
but prior to closing down we implemented
mandatory temperature taking

717
00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:18.160
for visitors we had not done that from
the start

718
00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:22.319
but we did implement it and surprisingly
we only had one person

719
00:56:22.319 --> 00:56:26.559
push back so i think people felt
comfortable

720
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:31.119
knowing that i know the employees felt
comfortable knowing we were doing it

721
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:36.400
and actually appreciated it next slide
please

722
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:42.000
some of these uh things on this slide
may answer questions i saw in the chat

723
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.000
room but
we we own 28 buildings over a million

724
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.000
square foot under
under roof um so as you can imagine we

725
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.640
really had to have detailed protocol for
cleaning

726
00:56:52.640 --> 00:56:58.720
daily weekly monthly uh especially deep
cleaning if someone is uh infected or

727
00:56:58.720 --> 00:57:03.760
believed to be infected
um we had deep clean um

728
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:06.960
we deep cleaned the touch the high touch
areas with

729
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:10.319
please don't ask me the technical side
of this i just know what it's called

730
00:57:10.319 --> 00:57:15.359
qt3 or vital oxide misting

731
00:57:15.520 --> 00:57:19.920
but the other questions that i saw being
asked were about air filtration

732
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:24.960
and um we took this pretty serious
because

733
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.799
uh there was an article that came out
about airborne

734
00:57:28.799 --> 00:57:31.920
uh infections so we made sure we had
mervy

735
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:37.079
pre-filters bag filters epithelders
we spray the filters with an

736
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:43.119
anti-microbial vericide
periodically especially when we change

737
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.400
them
and then where it was possible we

738
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:51.760
increased the outside air
flow to the museums upwards of 10 15

739
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:55.200
percent
not as easy in an art museum as it is at

740
00:57:55.200 --> 00:58:00.079
a science center
but we did what we could to increase

741
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.720
that
and then the other thing and sharon had

742
00:58:02.720 --> 00:58:07.359
touched on this
we do atp testing in high touch

743
00:58:07.359 --> 00:58:11.760
areas which tests for uh energy
molecules

744
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:18.000
molecules or living uh cells
it doesn't test for the virus but it

745
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:22.240
tests for living cells so if there's
something living there we clean it

746
00:58:22.240 --> 00:58:25.200
next slide please

747
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:32.319
um lessons learned um probably we
while more than likely we will do

748
00:58:32.319 --> 00:58:37.520
visitor temperatures
from the get-go um the one thing we

749
00:58:37.520 --> 00:58:40.319
learned in taking temperatures with
employees

750
00:58:40.319 --> 00:58:44.079
was we started out taking temperatures
of employees

751
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:49.119
in their cars as they were pulling in
well the ambient heat from the car

752
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.480
affected the temperature learned that
real fast

753
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:56.960
um we we decided to take the behind the
scenes cleaning

754
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:02.559
and make it visible so that visitors and
the employees saw we were doing it

755
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:05.280
because if you don't see it you don't
think it's done

756
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:09.760
uh we separated working groups
repurposed areas for lunchrooms

757
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:16.079
and we kept ahead of ppe um
helpful resources and again this may

758
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:21.280
answer one of your questions
about the hvac there's a site called

759
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.640
ashrae
and the head of our facilities is the

760
00:59:24.640 --> 00:59:29.440
one that uh suggested that
this may seem silly we actually googled

761
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:34.160
a lot of higher education
institutions they have a lot of backing

762
00:59:34.160 --> 00:59:38.079
a lot of money and a lot of
ability to come up with white papers on

763
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:42.799
what to do
and in some cases we used it as backbone

764
00:59:42.799 --> 00:59:46.000
and then we also keep close on trade
magazines aside

765
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:51.839
from am and what we're presenting today
there's a lot of information out there

766
00:59:51.839 --> 00:59:58.640
uh on boma
and iamfa that's all thank you

767
00:59:58.839 --> 01:00:03.680
excellent very very tangible examples
and tips thank you so much

768
01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:09.599
jessica absolutely hello thank you
everybody my name is jessica chavez uh

769
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:14.000
minus what my name says under my uh
picture there but i'm with arizona

770
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.200
science center and i'm vice president of
innovative learning strategies

771
01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:20.720
which is a little bit different for this
uh webinar i was brought in

772
01:00:20.720 --> 01:00:24.720
actually just because of the adult
education background that i have in

773
01:00:24.720 --> 01:00:29.359
working with
our our facilities and our departments

774
01:00:29.359 --> 01:00:32.640
just really getting them aware of what
kind of transition it would be

775
01:00:32.640 --> 01:00:36.640
going into reopening and we actually in
fact opened twice

776
01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:40.400
uh so our first reopening was um at the
end of may

777
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:44.319
and then we decided there wasn't a
government order but we just decided

778
01:00:44.319 --> 01:00:47.040
with our board that our numbers were a
little bit uncomfortable

779
01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:50.400
uh so that we were gonna take a step
back which is where we pivoted with our

780
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:55.119
online virtual platforms
we then opened again uh in the middle

781
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.920
late june
uh where we opened to the public where

782
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.720
we had some great learnings from that so
i have some

783
01:01:00.720 --> 01:01:04.880
um high level of what we did and how we
transitioned but a lot of

784
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:08.960
similar things to kevin as far as our
cleaning our procedures and policies

785
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.640
it took a lot of great minds to get that
going so if you don't mind going to the

786
01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:14.880
next slide i can start with that
overview

787
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.720
and just how we tackle some of our
guests in arizona it's a little bit

788
01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:22.240
different
we have a mass mandate across the state

789
01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:24.720
now
what that looks like when people come

790
01:01:24.720 --> 01:01:28.079
into our institution varies
uh we've seen a lot of interesting

791
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:33.520
things whether it's a
a gator mask or a a regular standard

792
01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:37.040
mask
or we've even seen some with a mesh uh

793
01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:39.920
opening
in the mouth area so we've had to do a

794
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:43.680
lot of uh regulating and training our
staff as to what that looks like

795
01:01:43.680 --> 01:01:47.280
so i'm just giving you a little tidbit
of what the training was and the ongoing

796
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.960
training that we do to get our staff on
board as well as to be able to educate

797
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:54.319
the public
because really we are one of the first

798
01:01:54.319 --> 01:01:58.720
places to
uh reopen as a cultural institution in

799
01:01:58.720 --> 01:02:01.440
the state
uh and some are still actually closed in

800
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:04.240
fact uh but one was
really just everyone getting a baseline

801
01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:08.079
of what coven 19 was we have four
different generations in the workplace

802
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:11.839
who have a different understanding and
different uh depth of how much they read

803
01:02:11.839 --> 01:02:14.319
into things and so really getting
everyone aware of

804
01:02:14.319 --> 01:02:18.240
covid19 what's the baseline verbiage
that we're going to be using

805
01:02:18.240 --> 01:02:21.440
on staff as well as being able to share
with the public

806
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.720
part two was our reopening processes and
procedures and

807
01:02:24.720 --> 01:02:28.720
knowing that it's a living document we
have several iterations of what our

808
01:02:28.720 --> 01:02:32.400
reopening plan looks like and as
our lawyers contributed our board

809
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:36.720
contributed we have a covid committee
uh that contributes in a daily

810
01:02:36.720 --> 01:02:40.240
leadership meeting that actually goes
over all of the covet information

811
01:02:40.240 --> 01:02:44.319
to make sure we are staying as current
as possible and then part three guest

812
01:02:44.319 --> 01:02:47.680
interactions and professional best
practices you know we are a public

813
01:02:47.680 --> 01:02:51.680
institution we have lots of littles
um on our site and how do we show that

814
01:02:51.680 --> 01:02:55.680
empathy as we open to the public and
still have an inviting place where

815
01:02:55.680 --> 01:02:58.960
people can learn and be
a model as to what this could look like

816
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:03.839
during the pandemic
so next slide please

817
01:03:04.240 --> 01:03:08.160
so one of the things we did as far as
staff was we have daily health

818
01:03:08.160 --> 01:03:12.400
screenings so much like kevin we are
taking temperatures of our staff

819
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.760
each day but they also fill out a health
screening just

820
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.760
as part of their procedures when they
come in as well as a location tracker so

821
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.640
we know who's on site and offsite every
day

822
01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:25.920
um again trying to stagger how many
people we have

823
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:31.520
on site and we are at below capacity
as our ceo will say we are small and

824
01:03:31.520 --> 01:03:34.319
scrappy
uh so we make sure we spread out

825
01:03:34.319 --> 01:03:37.920
accordingly as well
but on top of that just something that's

826
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:42.160
a little bit different than kevin we are
not taking temperatures of our guests

827
01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:45.680
in arizona as you can imagine walking to
our doors

828
01:03:45.680 --> 01:03:49.440
varies the temperature a little bit and
so we found that was not something that

829
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:53.359
was really
uh doable for us on our end so um

830
01:03:53.359 --> 01:03:57.359
definitely adding
um as guests enter we have security

831
01:03:57.359 --> 01:04:00.160
there to just
kind of reinforce that we do have a mask

832
01:04:00.160 --> 01:04:03.760
policy we have hand sanitizer waiting
with a guest

833
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:09.039
um experience expert there to greet them
as well as just understanding the safety

834
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:12.720
practices along our ramp as you go down
about the pandemic

835
01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:15.599
next slide please

836
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:20.000
all right and so getting into the guest
experiences so

837
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.240
um in arizona fortunately or
unfortunately as you've probably seen we

838
01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:28.079
have made the news quite a bit uh for
covid and just our numbers are a little

839
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:32.079
high so it's been really important to
making sure that we educate our guests

840
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:36.079
and we do have a mass
mandate and because we are a

841
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:41.359
non-essential business we are
very strictly enforcing that so even um

842
01:04:41.359 --> 01:04:45.680
down to where the cdc would recommend uh
not using gators

843
01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:49.359
you know maybe or maybe not we have
decided to take a strong stance on not

844
01:04:49.359 --> 01:04:52.319
allowing gators
which are just those handkerchiefs that

845
01:04:52.319 --> 01:04:56.240
just kind of go up because
you actually need double layers and some

846
01:04:56.240 --> 01:04:58.880
of our guests were not complying
accordingly

847
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.319
we do not allow the just the face
shields again because of the

848
01:05:02.319 --> 01:05:07.520
transmission so we do have ppe available
for our guests in two different sizes

849
01:05:07.520 --> 01:05:11.039
child and adult
depending on what they need in addition

850
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:15.680
to that we are providing each guest with
a touchless tool as they enter and they

851
01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:18.880
pay
so um some of our exhibits that were had

852
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:23.440
interesting materials
that we weren't quite sure what could be

853
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.960
cleaned appropriately in a quick manner
we have taken

854
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:31.440
away from the public at this point
but we have a lot of interactive

855
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.720
exhibits that actually really interact
with our touchless tools

856
01:05:34.720 --> 01:05:38.000
so upon entry everyone gets a touchless
tool and a brief

857
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.440
introduction as to how to utilize that a
lot of our signage has changed just to

858
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:49.359
um educate to keep people safe and aware
of the space that they need to adhere to

859
01:05:49.359 --> 01:05:51.920
so having
um occupancy limits on each of our

860
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:56.480
galleries training our staff
if we exceed those occupancy gout you

861
01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:00.400
know
occupancy areas in our galleries and how

862
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.920
to work with the staff
and then also having one-way traffic in

863
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:08.000
our main area so really just
trying to control space in the flow as

864
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:11.280
much as possible
and then we do collect those touchless

865
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.760
tools upon their exit they are available
for purchase which has been a popular

866
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.079
item
but really ensuring that that is

867
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:22.079
available for them
and i guess um next slide which is

868
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:26.400
lessons learned
where we have um which is a little bit

869
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:29.920
different so plan getting different
brains in the room so to really get

870
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:34.319
our our procedures and policies it took
more than just our operations department

871
01:06:34.319 --> 01:06:36.880
it took
me from the learning department it took

872
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:41.599
our facilities managers really coming
together with different eyes to ensure

873
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:43.760
that we're really thinking about
everything

874
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.680
down to making sure we have photos under
our name tags so that they know that

875
01:06:47.680 --> 01:06:52.000
we're human under those masks
uh just simple things that really made

876
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.880
us
think about the whole picture not just

877
01:06:54.880 --> 01:07:00.720
um the day-to-day logistics of it
really troubleshooting daily so we have

878
01:07:00.720 --> 01:07:02.880
a schedule where we have a leader on
site

879
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:06.319
each day so that's one of our leadership
teams so that's really supporting our

880
01:07:06.319 --> 01:07:11.839
staff so they they see a face to
help reinforce mask wearing or just to

881
01:07:11.839 --> 01:07:15.039
make sure that we're following
procedures with a checklist that we're

882
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:19.200
walking around so it's a separate role
than our usual day-to-day role but

883
01:07:19.200 --> 01:07:22.640
something that's really been
beneficial to not only our guests but

884
01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:25.920
also our staff
and then having a daily report in our

885
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.960
daily leadership meetings as to what's
working what's not

886
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:33.039
how do we quickly modify whether that's
just adding more signage

887
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.960
or changing our one-way traffic where it
makes more sense to use

888
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:41.280
us even down to how do we when we opened
our theaters how do we actually

889
01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.520
structure it so we have procedures to
keep things clean and spaced out

890
01:07:45.520 --> 01:07:48.880
um knowing that there's no going back to
normal

891
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.119
and that's okay but how do we pivot and
how do we plan for right now

892
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.240
but also look towards the future and so
again

893
01:07:56.240 --> 01:08:01.680
with our safety on um
procedures that we have on site really

894
01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:06.000
mimicking and mirroring that when we do
our off-site programming as well

895
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:10.160
and really knowing that the public looks
to us as a model and so

896
01:08:10.160 --> 01:08:13.200
we've collected a lot of data and you
know i i

897
01:08:13.200 --> 01:08:16.640
pride ourselves on this but the worst
report is that we've been the the clean

898
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.920
police
uh which i will take any day of being

899
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.880
the clean police uh
you know when you come to visit us

900
01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:27.120
because they know that they're safe
um and so that is kind of just the

901
01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:30.480
lessons learned and what we would change
i think having our security

902
01:08:30.480 --> 01:08:34.080
to support us and having friendly
security has been huge

903
01:08:34.080 --> 01:08:38.080
uh really having our staff understand
how to interact with the public and to

904
01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:42.239
model those safety
practices having visible cleaning crew

905
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.040
on staff
making sure on our website we model

906
01:08:45.040 --> 01:08:48.080
those types of things
and then last but not least to some of

907
01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:51.199
the couple of the resources we used i
really enjoyed

908
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:57.440
the realm resources next slide please
um the realm resource was a great for

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01:08:57.440 --> 01:09:00.799
decision making and libraries so
basically their opening checklist if you

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01:09:00.799 --> 01:09:03.679
haven't checked this out please do
because it was a great

911
01:09:03.679 --> 01:09:06.799
way to do a self check as to where we
need to be

912
01:09:06.799 --> 01:09:11.440
um as well as some other resources like
aam and our ceo is very big about

913
01:09:11.440 --> 01:09:14.719
bringing different resources in to speak
to our leadership team or our

914
01:09:14.719 --> 01:09:17.520
president's club
just so that we're really aware of

915
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:20.719
what's happening in the industry and i
think that's huge because

916
01:09:20.719 --> 01:09:23.679
you know what's happening in pittsburgh
is a little bit different but we can be

917
01:09:23.679 --> 01:09:26.400
learning from each other so that's been
a really big

918
01:09:26.400 --> 01:09:32.319
emphasis and then our cdc coveted track
tracker um even the arizona one we are

919
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:36.719
following that down to the minute
so that's been a great resource and uh

920
01:09:36.719 --> 01:09:40.640
knowing that
um in our situation in arizona we might

921
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:43.120
have to make different policies and
procedures

922
01:09:43.120 --> 01:09:47.120
that our governor may or may not have
decided just yet just to make sure that

923
01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:50.560
we're keeping our guests
safe and we're being a model of science

924
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:55.920
i think that's it
and i think my i'm so impressed you know

925
01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:59.600
you all are like doing so much but i
know that i

926
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:03.920
suggested only four to five slides but
you packed it with

927
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:07.440
information which i'm sure will be very
very beneficial

928
01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:11.280
uh practical information you know one of
the goals behind us

929
01:10:11.280 --> 01:10:16.000
doing this webinar was really to connect
research to practice and i feel

930
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.440
really good as your hostess and
moderator you know i feel

931
01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:22.480
we definitely accomplished that and i
hope the

932
01:10:22.480 --> 01:10:27.360
uh the attendees would feel that too uh
we only have like about six minutes left

933
01:10:27.360 --> 01:10:34.239
um but i would like to um dan if we can
um yeah i think i'll ask the last

934
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:38.000
broad question to all of you and it's
really

935
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:41.280
a wrap-up you know for this webinar uh
you

936
01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:44.400
saw and heard what the realm project has
generated

937
01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:49.120
and what's coming up in terms of
toolkits and other resources

938
01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:53.199
you shared and heard what others are
doing and jessica just like you

939
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:58.400
mentioned
i think one big need is for a continuing

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01:10:58.400 --> 01:11:02.960
uh community of practice a forum where
you know the ideas can be

941
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:08.320
uh can be exchanged but my question my
final question for all three of you and

942
01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:11.120
take two minutes this is rapid fire
right

943
01:11:11.120 --> 01:11:17.600
um what are some areas
of needs for your museums and your

944
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:21.679
communities
that the realm project or imls can

945
01:11:21.679 --> 01:11:26.159
address
and i'll repeat it what are some areas

946
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:31.600
of needs um you know face
that that you are facing as your museum

947
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:36.400
or your community is facing
that the realm project or imls can

948
01:11:36.400 --> 01:11:41.840
address and anyone can go first

949
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:48.000
and you might want to unmute yourself i
was muted

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01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:51.360
one thing that would be really helpful
is a

951
01:11:51.360 --> 01:11:58.239
standard calculation
of the

952
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:03.840
positivity rate because it's confusing
to people

953
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:07.120
when for instance in pennsylvania
allegheny county

954
01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:10.640
would measure one way the state would
measure it another way

955
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.000
and we as a museum would like to have a
metric

956
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:18.800
by which we could measure and say to
people we will close if this

957
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:25.120
goes to this number we will open if it
you know goes down to this number and

958
01:12:25.120 --> 01:12:30.640
it would just be good and maybe it's
impossible to ask realm to do this but

959
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:34.880
um you know a positivity calculation
that would be consistent

960
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:40.719
that everyone uses would be i think a
great thing for us to have

961
01:12:40.719 --> 01:12:43.520
thank you kevin

962
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:52.320
who wants to go with jessica or laura
can go next um i guess you know just as

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01:12:52.320 --> 01:12:56.400
a support just i mean the continued
research and data sharing and just

964
01:12:56.400 --> 01:13:00.480
you know staying as current as possible
as you know we know science changes

965
01:13:00.480 --> 01:13:05.040
uh and so just as much as we can share
and just make people aware i think this

966
01:13:05.040 --> 01:13:08.800
was a great opportunity to have a
webinar like this and to have this as an

967
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.360
ongoing thing would be really beneficial
for everybody

968
01:13:11.360 --> 01:13:14.640
and to get other institutions involved
great

969
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.360
that's what i was talking to our
communications department that maybe

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01:13:17.360 --> 01:13:22.159
this is a start of a series right
where we continue the conversations

971
01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:26.080
thank you laura
your last words yeah i i a lot of the

972
01:13:26.080 --> 01:13:31.199
museum folks that we're talking to
are thinking about um reopening as

973
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:35.520
we think about post pandemic and what
you know

974
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:40.159
uh rehabituation we need to do to
welcome people back into

975
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:43.760
our um our spaces and make them feel
comfortable there and make them feel

976
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:48.000
compelled to
you know leave our um our their comfy

977
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.280
couches and
and our online presence and programs and

978
01:13:51.280 --> 01:13:55.120
websites
uh to get back into museums spaces and

979
01:13:55.120 --> 01:13:57.920
and
and programming so we're thinking about

980
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.960
that and
um how we can help you know architect

981
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:06.080
that feature we want
okay great um i know that our next slide

982
01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:09.840
was supposed to be q and a but we are
really running short of time we just

983
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:14.080
have one minute
um i do want dan to bring up the uh the

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01:14:14.080 --> 01:14:18.640
slide with our contact information uh if
everyone wants to take down

985
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:24.719
the emails maybe a quick picture of this
slide and like i mentioned this uh the

986
01:14:24.719 --> 01:14:29.360
webinar is being recorded
and you will find it on the realm site

987
01:14:29.360 --> 01:14:34.320
or the imls sign
site as soon as they are ready but

988
01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:40.400
maybe if our gracious panelists
are available for you know two three

989
01:14:40.400 --> 01:14:44.320
more minutes
um let's look at the chat box or the

990
01:14:44.320 --> 01:14:48.640
question box and see if we can take
maybe just two questions and then i

991
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:57.840
promise we'll wrap it up

992
01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:03.280
do we have any questions

993
01:15:03.360 --> 01:15:08.159
for our panelists paula i see a question
in the chat i know we probably don't

994
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:13.600
have time to delve into this but around
research on disinfecting surfaces or

995
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:17.679
reducing transmission in historic house
museums of course we know that's a big

996
01:15:17.679 --> 01:15:24.080
part of the um of the field
and i uh i i don't know if there

997
01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:27.920
are materials specific to that kind of
museum that

998
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:32.719
we could include in you know future
testing but we'd be open i know i am

999
01:15:32.719 --> 01:15:36.480
also sought
you know advice from museums on what you

1000
01:15:36.480 --> 01:15:41.040
know kinds of materials could be tested
and on what conditions so i think i

1001
01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:43.679
think there's an openness to do that if
we know what

1002
01:15:43.679 --> 01:15:47.040
you know what we're missing is that
right and

1003
01:15:47.040 --> 01:15:51.040
yeah and i'll just say um this is sharon
is i i mentioned that question

1004
01:15:51.040 --> 01:15:55.120
submission form that can also be
considered that a comment form so if the

1005
01:15:55.120 --> 01:15:59.440
if the
commenter would like to just drop a form

1006
01:15:59.440 --> 01:16:03.120
in there and kind of list again
like laura was saying specific materials

1007
01:16:03.120 --> 01:16:06.960
or conditions that you're thinking of
then we can either crosswalk that to

1008
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:11.040
research that we already have
or it'll just inform our our planning

1009
01:16:11.040 --> 01:16:13.600
going forward

1010
01:16:14.080 --> 01:16:20.880
okay i think that's pretty
that's a wrap and i just want to thank

1011
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:24.960
all of you
for participating on this webinar and

1012
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:28.880
sharing
your expert insights and i would just

1013
01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:34.080
like to thank all the attendees
uh for you know your time and

1014
01:16:34.080 --> 01:16:40.960
wishing that everyone's remain safe
and you know my mask up and like

1015
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:44.480
maintain the social distancing
all the things that we talk about and

1016
01:16:44.480 --> 01:16:47.440
jessica i loved what you said that the
community

1017
01:16:47.440 --> 01:16:52.880
looks at museums as as role models
and and that's a very big responsibility

1018
01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:57.520
that we have
uh not only you know um still

1019
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.719
still bringing in that fun and
inspiration uh

1020
01:17:00.719 --> 01:17:05.440
in these you know times that can be
depressing uh but also role modeling so

1021
01:17:05.440 --> 01:17:09.120
thank you all
it was a pleasure hosting this webinar

1022
01:17:09.120 --> 01:17:14.719
and i want to thank imless and oclc
and all our partners for doing some

1023
01:17:14.719 --> 01:17:20.000
really really important
thank you thank you

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01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:31.840
thanks paula thank you

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01:17:35.360 --> 01:17:37.440
you