WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 1 00:00:04.940 --> 00:00:05.940 0:05 2 00:00:05.940 --> 00:00:09.460 **Crosby Kemper:** Good afternoon, everybody or good morning, depending on where you are. 3 00:00:09.460 --> 00:00:14.280 This is Crosby Kemper, the director of The Institute of Museum and Library Services, 4 00:00:14.280 --> 00:00:16.040 the IMLS. 5 00:00:16.040 --> 00:00:17.570 Welcome. 6 00:00:17.570 --> 00:00:22.130 We've had an overwhelming response to today's webinar. 7 00:00:22.130 --> 00:00:23.130 0:22 8 00:00:23.130 --> 00:00:27.780 So I want to get right into it, but I'll mention now and I mean mention later, we are recording 9 00:00:27.780 --> 00:00:36.370 this if colleagues, friends, the members of your communities didn't have a chance to get 10 00:00:36.370 --> 00:00:42.999 in or if you need to leave at some point, this will be available on our website. 11 00:00:42.999 --> 00:00:48.569 LogMeIn is doing this for us and we'll be linking to them from IMLS.gov. 12 00:00:48.569 --> 00:00:52.010 I think the Department of Education may also link to it. 13 00:00:52.010 --> 00:00:58.260 And eventually we will actually have this up on our website as well. 14 00:00:58.260 --> 00:01:03.659 The IMLS is an independent Federal agency located in Washington, D.C. 15 00:01:03.659 --> 00:01:10.400 We're best known for our grants to museums and libraries, but part of our mission is 16 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:15.210 to support innovation and ideas to do research and policy development. 17 00:01:15.210 --> 00:01:16.210 1:15 18 00:01:16.210 --> 00:01:22.610 This of course fits in all of that, as well as the Institute has been requested by the 19 00:01:22.610 --> 00:01:29.990 White House and Congress to be a part of the all-hands-on-deck emergency response to our 20 00:01:29.990 --> 00:01:31.570 national crisis. 21 00:01:31.570 --> 00:01:39.840 We know that information is a key to what all of you do and it's a key to what we do 22 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:46.740 and we're pleased today, in association with our partners in presenting this webinar, the 23 00:01:46.740 --> 00:01:52.360 Department of Education represented by Phil Rosenthal, the National Archives represented 24 00:01:52.360 --> 00:01:58.700 by Gary Stern, the Smithsonian Institution by Judith Leonard and the Library of Congress 25 00:01:58.700 --> 00:02:05.550 by Elizabeth Pew, so I want to shout out to our own general counsel Nancy Weis at the 26 00:02:05.550 --> 00:02:08.940 end of the call. 27 00:02:08.940 --> 00:02:14.270 I'm going to introduce in one second David Berendes and Catherine Rasberry. 28 00:02:14.270 --> 00:02:18.740 Dr. David Berendes and Dr. Catherine Rasberry from the CDC. 29 00:02:18.740 --> 00:02:25.350 But first of all before we do that, I want to thank all of you for what you're doing. 30 00:02:25.350 --> 00:02:32.790 The virtual world that you inhabit now, that we're all inhabiting now, is still providing 31 00:02:32.790 --> 00:02:39.871 education, enlightenment and entertainment to a world desperately in need of it, and 32 00:02:39.871 --> 00:02:42.020 a lifeline to the rest of the world. 33 00:02:42.020 --> 00:02:46.920 And so what you're doing is enormously important, and if we can help you with information today 34 00:02:46.920 --> 00:02:57.050 about your collections, about your materials, about your future activities, we want to continue 35 00:02:57.050 --> 00:02:58.090 to do that. 36 00:02:58.090 --> 00:03:05.630 So look for us to develop not only the link to this webinar and to further information, 37 00:03:05.630 --> 00:03:15.790 but the CDC has promised us that they'll continue to let us mediate for them to the library, 38 00:03:15.790 --> 00:03:17.230 museum and archive worlds. 39 00:03:17.230 --> 00:03:23.450 So today we've got Dr. David Berendes who is a an epidemiologist in the waterborne disease 40 00:03:23.450 --> 00:03:31.340 prevention branch of the CDC who focuses on global sanitation and hygiene issues, and 41 00:03:31.340 --> 00:03:38.120 Dr. Catherine Rasberry who is a health scientist in the CDC's division of Adolescent and School 42 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:39.380 Health. 43 00:03:39.380 --> 00:03:45.060 I'm going to turn it over to Dr. Rasberry to start and then Dr. Berendes. 44 00:03:45.060 --> 00:03:50.680 And as I say, we'll be taking questions and we have a list of questions that I'll refer 45 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.620 to after their presentations, but we're taking your questions online. 46 00:03:54.620 --> 00:03:55.620 3:55 47 00:03:55.620 --> 00:04:02.489 If you look at the question box, you can send your question that way and we'll try and get 48 00:04:02.489 --> 00:04:04.379 to as many as we can. 49 00:04:04.379 --> 00:04:06.560 So Dr. Rasberry, take it away. 50 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.020 **Dr. Rasberry:** All right. 51 00:04:08.020 --> 00:04:09.920 Thank you so much. 52 00:04:09.920 --> 00:04:18.530 So as he mentioned, my name is Catherine Rasberry and my usual job is in CDC's division of Adolescent 53 00:04:18.530 --> 00:04:19.530 and School Health. 54 00:04:19.530 --> 00:04:24.270 But right now I'm helping with our community guidance development team, which is part of 55 00:04:24.270 --> 00:04:29.949 a community interventions task force in our response efforts, and I've been really focused 56 00:04:29.949 --> 00:04:38.310 on some of the guidance for a variety of settings across the community, and certainly our museums 57 00:04:38.310 --> 00:04:40.840 and our libraries are critical setting. 58 00:04:40.840 --> 00:04:47.360 So I want to first mention where you can find guidance that I think you will find most relevant 59 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.669 for your organizations. 60 00:04:49.669 --> 00:04:51.550 Right now we have guidance documents. 61 00:04:51.550 --> 00:04:54.940 I think three specific ones that will be of interest to you. 62 00:04:54.940 --> 00:04:58.000 So if you have a pen in your hand, you may want to jot these down. 63 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:02.380 We have some guidance that's developed for community and faith-based organizations. 64 00:05:02.380 --> 00:05:03.380 5:03 65 00:05:03.380 --> 00:05:08.340 We have some guidance around large community events and mass gatherings. 66 00:05:08.340 --> 00:05:11.410 And we have some guidance around business and employers. 67 00:05:11.410 --> 00:05:17.330 I think you're sort of crossing all those different areas in the work that you do, most 68 00:05:17.330 --> 00:05:18.330 likely. 69 00:05:18.330 --> 00:05:24.740 And so those are key places where you'll find information from CDC on recommendations for 70 00:05:24.740 --> 00:05:29.710 addressing COVID-19 in your facility and in your work. 71 00:05:29.710 --> 00:05:32.680 So that's a sort of a starting point for you. 72 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:33.680 5:33 73 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.010 I want you know where you can find the information that I'm about to talk about. 74 00:05:36.010 --> 00:05:40.389 So everything we're discussing is sitting in those documents on our website. 75 00:05:40.389 --> 00:05:42.770 So you'll be able to look there for more information. 76 00:05:42.770 --> 00:05:47.630 So today, I want to really focus on a few key things. 77 00:05:47.630 --> 00:05:48.630 5:48 78 00:05:48.630 --> 00:05:52.729 We're going to start by talking about the importance of looking at any existing Emergency 79 00:05:52.729 --> 00:05:53.889 Operations plans. 80 00:05:53.889 --> 00:05:58.760 Then we're going to move into talking about preventive actions and how you can help promote 81 00:05:58.760 --> 00:06:03.840 those in your facility with your staff and with your guests. 82 00:06:03.840 --> 00:06:05.990 And we'll talk about social distancing as well. 83 00:06:05.990 --> 00:06:10.960 So we'll get into some specifics around social distancing and what you can do to help with 84 00:06:10.960 --> 00:06:11.960 that. 85 00:06:11.960 --> 00:06:16.640 We'll also talk briefly about the importance of thinking about groups at high risk for 86 00:06:16.640 --> 00:06:21.050 complications from COVID-19 across all those different pieces. 87 00:06:21.050 --> 00:06:22.050 6:21 88 00:06:22.050 --> 00:06:25.790 And then my colleague David is going to be able to speak to you more about some of the 89 00:06:25.790 --> 00:06:28.160 cleaning and disinfection related guidance. 90 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:33.130 I know folks had a lot of specific questions in that area, so it'll be super helpful to 91 00:06:33.130 --> 00:06:34.250 hear from him. 92 00:06:34.250 --> 00:06:37.759 All right, so let me start at the beginning of things. 93 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:43.700 I think one of the most important things for you to do at this stage, if you haven't already, 94 00:06:43.700 --> 00:06:48.400 and you may have, is to think about looking at your Emergency Operations plans. 95 00:06:48.400 --> 00:06:51.540 If you have these plans pull them out, dust them off. 96 00:06:51.540 --> 00:06:52.540 6:52 97 00:06:52.540 --> 00:06:57.080 I'm guessing many of you have done that already and keep in mind that your primary point of 98 00:06:57.080 --> 00:07:02.690 contact and your first stop always is going to be the local Health officials in your own 99 00:07:02.690 --> 00:07:03.690 community. 100 00:07:03.690 --> 00:07:07.710 We really think it's critical that you make sure you have ways to communicate effectively 101 00:07:07.710 --> 00:07:09.630 with the health department in your area. 102 00:07:09.630 --> 00:07:13.509 So that's local Health Department, potentially State Health Department as well. 103 00:07:13.509 --> 00:07:20.919 You may be doing that through a library system leadership team or through your local government 104 00:07:20.919 --> 00:07:25.910 or other folks within your structure organization. 105 00:07:25.910 --> 00:07:32.240 They're going to be critical for you to help you understand what types of strategies are 106 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:37.430 most appropriate given the level of community transmission where you are. 107 00:07:37.430 --> 00:07:38.479 7:38 108 00:07:38.479 --> 00:07:43.240 Another thing that's important and maybe covered in your Emergency Operations plans is thinking 109 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.790 about your sick leave policies. 110 00:07:45.790 --> 00:07:53.440 Not only do you serve a community; you also serve as an employer in many cases, and you 111 00:07:53.440 --> 00:07:58.199 want to look at your sick leave policies so that you can be in encouraging telework when 112 00:07:58.199 --> 00:07:59.199 it's possible. 113 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:04.810 I certainly understand that not every staff member has a job that's appropriate for teleworking, 114 00:08:04.810 --> 00:08:06.009 but some may. 115 00:08:06.009 --> 00:08:07.979 Encourage that when you can. 116 00:08:07.979 --> 00:08:11.320 Think about special considerations for your staff at high risk. 117 00:08:11.320 --> 00:08:16.550 So we know that some individuals, specifically older adults and individuals with underlying 118 00:08:16.550 --> 00:08:23.330 conditions, are at higher risk for severe complications of COVID-19, and so it's particularly 119 00:08:23.330 --> 00:08:26.970 important that you think about these staff and you think about ways you may be able to 120 00:08:26.970 --> 00:08:30.300 accommodate them to help protect them. 121 00:08:30.300 --> 00:08:35.240 And finally in your sick leave policies, one of the things you want to look for is to make 122 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.820 sure that you have some flexibility to allow your staff to stay home when they're sick 123 00:08:39.820 --> 00:08:42.820 or if they're caring for sick family members. 124 00:08:42.820 --> 00:08:48.010 One of the most important things that we want all people doing right now is to **stay home 125 00:08:48.010 --> 00:08:51.430 when they're sick.** That includes your guests, that includes your employees, right? 126 00:08:51.430 --> 00:08:56.600 We don't want people coming out into the community when they're sick. 127 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.940 As you're looking at your Emergency Operations plans, I would also encourage you to make 128 00:09:00.940 --> 00:09:02.529 any updates that you need to. 129 00:09:02.529 --> 00:09:07.540 So make sure that you have contact information for all your employees. 130 00:09:07.540 --> 00:09:08.540 9:09 131 00:09:08.540 --> 00:09:12.290 Make sure you have plans in place to think about how you're going to communicate both 132 00:09:12.290 --> 00:09:16.060 with your employees as well as your community members at large. 133 00:09:16.060 --> 00:09:21.760 So if you decide to implement changes to your services or to your hours, or if you're closing 134 00:09:21.760 --> 00:09:26.029 your facility -- all those things you need to be able to communicate effectively and 135 00:09:26.029 --> 00:09:28.650 efficiently with the people that you serve. 136 00:09:28.650 --> 00:09:29.650 9:29 137 00:09:29.650 --> 00:09:33.120 We also want you to think about multiple ways to disseminate information. 138 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:39.040 You likely do this already and you can likely use systems that you currently have in place 139 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:40.910 for communicating with your community. 140 00:09:40.910 --> 00:09:48.320 So you may use website information, you might have phone trees or call numbers that you 141 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.130 can use, or mailings that you can use as well. 142 00:09:52.130 --> 00:09:56.170 And one of the other really important pieces in your Emergency Operations plan is going 143 00:09:56.170 --> 00:10:00.170 to be some of the pieces that you have around cleaning and disinfection. 144 00:10:00.170 --> 00:10:04.410 Now, I'm going to pause and not talk about that here, because David's going to be telling 145 00:10:04.410 --> 00:10:06.990 us more about that in just a few minutes. 146 00:10:06.990 --> 00:10:07.990 10:07 147 00:10:07.990 --> 00:10:12.050 So those are some kind of overarching principles to think about in your Emergency Operations 148 00:10:12.050 --> 00:10:13.050 plan. 149 00:10:13.050 --> 00:10:15.670 Make sure you have a contact with your health department, you know who you'll reach out 150 00:10:15.670 --> 00:10:16.899 to and how. 151 00:10:16.899 --> 00:10:22.800 Make sure you have appropriate sick leave policies that really allow your employees 152 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:27.300 to not be at work when they're sick or if they have to care for people who are sick, 153 00:10:27.300 --> 00:10:32.120 and make sure that you have updated ways to communicate effectively with both your employees 154 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.260 and the people you serve. 155 00:10:34.260 --> 00:10:35.260 10:35 156 00:10:35.260 --> 00:10:40.460 Now another really important thing that you can do is to help promote preventive actions. 157 00:10:40.460 --> 00:10:43.290 So this can happen in a couple of ways. 158 00:10:43.290 --> 00:10:48.339 I think one broad way is that you can share information with people about important preventive 159 00:10:48.339 --> 00:10:49.560 actions. 160 00:10:49.560 --> 00:10:53.990 So when we say that, in general we're talking about things like hand hygiene. 161 00:10:53.990 --> 00:10:54.990 10:54 162 00:10:54.990 --> 00:10:58.899 So for example, we want everyone to be washing their hands with soap and water for at least 163 00:10:58.899 --> 00:11:05.140 20 seconds, especially at these key times like after going to the bathroom or before 164 00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:09.040 they eat or after they blow their nose or cough or sneeze. 165 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:14.040 We want people to know that if they can't access soap and water and as long as their 166 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:19.269 hands are not visibly dirty, they should be using an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with 167 00:11:19.269 --> 00:11:21.529 at least 60 percent alcohol. 168 00:11:21.529 --> 00:11:27.339 So you can help communicate some of this just basic information to help people take care 169 00:11:27.339 --> 00:11:28.339 of themselves. 170 00:11:28.339 --> 00:11:31.210 You can promote that through your communication channels. 171 00:11:31.210 --> 00:11:33.050 You can also display it in your facility. 172 00:11:33.050 --> 00:11:34.050 11:33 173 00:11:34.050 --> 00:11:38.000 So in your restrooms, maybe you put up signs to remind people to wash their hands and to 174 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.880 do it for 20 seconds, right? 175 00:11:40.880 --> 00:11:43.480 CDC has a variety of resources that you can use for this. 176 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:48.170 We have some printable signs and posters, and we have the links to those sitting in 177 00:11:48.170 --> 00:11:52.050 the guidance that I mentioned a few minutes ago. 178 00:11:52.050 --> 00:11:54.390 We also want people to be using cough etiquette. 179 00:11:54.390 --> 00:11:58.570 So covering their coughs or sneezes with the tissue and then immediately throwing that 180 00:11:58.570 --> 00:11:59.930 into the trash. 181 00:11:59.930 --> 00:12:03.870 We want to remind people not to touch their eyes, nose and mouth. 182 00:12:03.870 --> 00:12:04.870 12:04 183 00:12:04.870 --> 00:12:07.450 Generally speaking, again, we want them, as I mentioned a minute ago, staying home when 184 00:12:07.450 --> 00:12:12.019 they're sick, keeping physical distance from people -- we'll talk more about that in just 185 00:12:12.019 --> 00:12:13.019 a minute. 186 00:12:13.019 --> 00:12:19.130 But again, reminding your staff, reminding your visitors, through both written communications 187 00:12:19.130 --> 00:12:25.279 that you provide as well as prompts and signs things like that in your facility to help 188 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:30.480 people remember in the moment to participate in those preventive actions. 189 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:34.560 It's also critical that you think about what they're going to need to be able to do that. 190 00:12:34.560 --> 00:12:40.090 So for example, they can't wash their hands if there's not soap in the bathrooms, right? 191 00:12:40.090 --> 00:12:47.050 So you may want to more clearly point people to the restroom facilities and certainly make 192 00:12:47.050 --> 00:12:50.930 sure that you're stocked up on the supplies that you need to support these preventive 193 00:12:50.930 --> 00:12:51.930 actions. 194 00:12:51.930 --> 00:12:57.579 Soap, drying materials, tissues where guests can find them, trash cans nearby, that sort 195 00:12:57.579 --> 00:12:58.780 of thing. 196 00:12:58.780 --> 00:12:59.860 13:00 197 00:12:59.860 --> 00:13:04.410 Alright, let's talk a little bit briefly here about social distancing. 198 00:13:04.410 --> 00:13:08.050 So that's certainly one of the things that we're recommending people do to protect themselves 199 00:13:08.050 --> 00:13:09.760 and others. 200 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:16.790 As a museum or a library, you'll find yourself needing to think about the types of activities 201 00:13:16.790 --> 00:13:21.519 that you typically offer and really thinking critically about which of those activities 202 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:25.740 or services put people in close proximity to one another. 203 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:26.740 13:26 204 00:13:26.740 --> 00:13:33.010 As you think about that, you'll then think about how to alter or reduce or suspend services 205 00:13:33.010 --> 00:13:39.130 or activities so that you can help ensure that everyone in your facility has appropriate 206 00:13:39.130 --> 00:13:41.130 physical distance between each other. 207 00:13:41.130 --> 00:13:45.730 And what we're going for here is six feet: the goal is to put **six feet between all 208 00:13:45.730 --> 00:13:49.340 people**, in particular people from different households, right? 209 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:55.320 So, for example, we've seen some folks in library communities as an example do this 210 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:56.320 already. 211 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:57.320 13:56 212 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:01.889 I know that some of my local libraries have had virtual storytimes for children, particularly 213 00:14:01.889 --> 00:14:07.680 since so many of them are out of school right now -- well, learning from home right now. 214 00:14:07.680 --> 00:14:13.600 It may be that you typically have classes or speakers in your facility and some of those 215 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:18.090 activities could be potentially transitioned to online settings. 216 00:14:18.090 --> 00:14:22.670 Remember that at times when your facility is open, you may want to think about what 217 00:14:22.670 --> 00:14:26.820 you can do in your physical space to help encourage that distancing. 218 00:14:26.820 --> 00:14:32.040 So for example, you might think about moving out some of the chairs at reading tables so 219 00:14:32.040 --> 00:14:35.990 that chairs are six feet apart, or move tables so that they're six feet apart. 220 00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:36.990 14:36 221 00:14:36.990 --> 00:14:40.670 So really what we want you to do is think about the guidance that we have right now 222 00:14:40.670 --> 00:14:46.060 about these key principles such as social distancing, and then think critically and 223 00:14:46.060 --> 00:14:51.610 creatively about how you can make those things work in your own facility and how you can 224 00:14:51.610 --> 00:14:58.070 make it easier for your staff and your guests to be implementing those key principles. 225 00:14:58.070 --> 00:15:03.610 We also know that as part of social distancing, it may be that you see additional interest 226 00:15:03.610 --> 00:15:05.769 in some of your online services. 227 00:15:05.769 --> 00:15:10.899 So for example, electronic lending or some of these virtual storytimes or virtual book 228 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:17.660 clubs or speakers, and so you'll also want to plan for that potential increase in that 229 00:15:17.660 --> 00:15:22.279 online traffic and the interest in some of these online support services. 230 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:23.279 15:23 231 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:28.050 In terms of gatherings, I think most of you are probably aware that the president recently 232 00:15:28.050 --> 00:15:30.920 issued some guidance to help slow the spread. 233 00:15:30.920 --> 00:15:36.410 It was originally 15 days to slow the spread; that has now been extended through April 30th. 234 00:15:36.410 --> 00:15:40.800 In that guidance, they're recommending avoiding all social gatherings of less than 10 people. 235 00:15:40.800 --> 00:15:43.820 *(Ed. note: probably meant "more than".)* I think that's a good thing to keep in mind 236 00:15:43.820 --> 00:15:48.350 as you think about activities within your own facility. 237 00:15:48.350 --> 00:15:52.220 Always remember that your local health officials are going to be the people who are best positioned 238 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:56.019 to offer guidance on what you should do in terms of gatherings. 239 00:15:56.019 --> 00:16:01.630 So when to postpone, when to restart, when to cancel or again when to resume that if 240 00:16:01.630 --> 00:16:06.029 you've had those canceled for a while. 241 00:16:06.029 --> 00:16:11.089 Your local health officials are really going to be key partners in all of your decision-making. 242 00:16:11.089 --> 00:16:13.820 16:14 243 00:16:13.820 --> 00:16:22.019 I think another thing to keep in mind is particularly as people are in your facility, you will want 244 00:16:22.019 --> 00:16:28.070 to think about having a plan for what to do if someone is symptomatic or becomes symptomatic. 245 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:33.399 We have some more specific guidance about this that you'll find on our website, our 246 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:39.100 guidance materials, but you will want to have a way to isolate them. 247 00:16:39.100 --> 00:16:40.100 16:39 248 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:46.029 You may need a designated space to make sure that they can be separate from other individuals 249 00:16:46.029 --> 00:16:48.800 in your facility until they can go home. 250 00:16:48.800 --> 00:16:53.029 And ideally you don't want them going home using public transportation, right? 251 00:16:53.029 --> 00:16:55.199 So you have to think about that as well. 252 00:16:55.199 --> 00:17:00.209 That should be an important part of your planning process and thinking about how you may be 253 00:17:00.209 --> 00:17:04.769 able to physically remove someone who may have -- well that sounded a little harsh -- but 254 00:17:04.769 --> 00:17:09.919 separate someone who may have symptoms or become symptomatic when they're in your facility. 255 00:17:09.919 --> 00:17:10.919 17:11 256 00:17:10.919 --> 00:17:15.929 I think the other piece I want to mention related to social distancing is that a lot 257 00:17:15.929 --> 00:17:18.600 of what I've mentioned so far is about your guests, right? 258 00:17:18.600 --> 00:17:21.179 The people that you serve in your community. 259 00:17:21.179 --> 00:17:25.079 But you can also think about this from the perspective of being an employer. 260 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:26.079 17:26 261 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.929 So for example, think about how offices are set up and is there a way to increase the 262 00:17:30.929 --> 00:17:36.360 space between employees if they are having to come into the facility -- again, certainly 263 00:17:36.360 --> 00:17:38.769 encouraging telework where that's possible. 264 00:17:38.769 --> 00:17:45.129 Even if folks are in your facility, you may think about having meetings via phone or video 265 00:17:45.129 --> 00:17:46.129 conferences. 266 00:17:46.129 --> 00:17:49.470 Just because they're all in the same building does not mean they need to gather in the same 267 00:17:49.470 --> 00:17:50.470 room. 268 00:17:50.470 --> 00:17:54.090 So there are a lot of things, smaller things like this, that you can do to help make sure 269 00:17:54.090 --> 00:17:59.320 that even if your employees are at work that they are able to keep appropriate physical 270 00:17:59.320 --> 00:18:01.840 distance between each other. 271 00:18:01.840 --> 00:18:06.580 You may even think about the physical configuration of different locations within your facility. 272 00:18:06.580 --> 00:18:07.580 18:07 273 00:18:07.580 --> 00:18:12.700 I'm thinking like a check in or check out center, and think about if there are ways 274 00:18:12.700 --> 00:18:17.460 to put not only more space between your employees but more physical space between your employees 275 00:18:17.460 --> 00:18:18.460 and your visitors. 276 00:18:18.460 --> 00:18:19.460 All right. 277 00:18:19.460 --> 00:18:22.340 So those are really some key principles there. 278 00:18:22.340 --> 00:18:28.169 I think the idea of looking at your Emergency Operations plans, promoting preventive actions 279 00:18:28.169 --> 00:18:33.409 and thinking about social distancing across all the settings and across all three of those 280 00:18:33.409 --> 00:18:34.409 things. 281 00:18:34.409 --> 00:18:38.989 We want you to always be thinking about any extra accommodations you might need to make 282 00:18:38.989 --> 00:18:41.399 for people who are in that high risk group. 283 00:18:41.399 --> 00:18:48.299 Again, that's older adults and individuals who may have some other underlying medical 284 00:18:48.299 --> 00:18:49.440 conditions. 285 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:54.500 Across everything you're doing think about those folks and what you could do to further 286 00:18:54.500 --> 00:18:56.110 protect them if appropriate. 287 00:18:56.110 --> 00:18:57.110 18:58 288 00:18:57.110 --> 00:18:58.419 All right. 289 00:18:58.419 --> 00:19:03.100 So I think that sums up what I wanted to cover in some of the key principles in our guidance 290 00:19:03.100 --> 00:19:08.399 and I want to turn it over now to my colleague David who is going to speak more about some 291 00:19:08.399 --> 00:19:20.250 of the cleaning and disinfection questions that I know folks have had. 292 00:19:20.250 --> 00:19:21.250 19:20 293 00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:22.250 **Dr. Berendes:** Thanks Catherine. 294 00:19:22.250 --> 00:19:23.659 So my name is David Berendes. 295 00:19:23.659 --> 00:19:29.249 In my home office, I work in the waterborne disease prevention branch as an epidemiologist 296 00:19:29.249 --> 00:19:34.889 in global low-income settings, as well as I serve as both domestically and globally 297 00:19:34.889 --> 00:19:42.299 as the hand hygiene reference point for community settings within the agency. 298 00:19:42.299 --> 00:19:48.399 Within the response, I'm actually working as the team lead of the Water Sanitation hygiene 299 00:19:48.399 --> 00:19:53.200 team within the same task force as Catherine -- that's the community interventions task 300 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.350 force. 301 00:19:54.350 --> 00:20:00.350 And so a lot of the work that we have been doing is around both hand hygiene as well 302 00:20:00.350 --> 00:20:02.009 as environmental cleaning and disinfection. 303 00:20:02.009 --> 00:20:07.229 I really want to touch on the main points of the environmental cleaning and disinfection 304 00:20:07.229 --> 00:20:10.120 work that we've been doing. 305 00:20:10.120 --> 00:20:17.629 If I give you any point today, the main point is: **clean and disinfect your high touch 306 00:20:17.629 --> 00:20:18.950 surfaces**. 307 00:20:18.950 --> 00:20:21.799 That's the main takeaway I want everyone to get. 308 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.710 That's the main focus that a lot of our guidance is built around and that's the principle you'll 309 00:20:25.710 --> 00:20:31.260 hear me come back to a lot as I talk you through some of the guidance. 310 00:20:31.260 --> 00:20:36.080 Now similar to Catherine, our guidance is on the website in a few places and primarily 311 00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:41.159 you're going to want to look for guidance that we've developed for community Non-Health 312 00:20:41.159 --> 00:20:42.919 Care Organizations. 313 00:20:42.919 --> 00:20:46.309 We've basically separated out our guidance for environmental cleaning and disinfection 314 00:20:46.309 --> 00:20:51.179 into households, and then community non-healthcare organizations. 315 00:20:51.179 --> 00:20:59.539 The community non-healthcare organizations are divided into those that house and those 316 00:20:59.539 --> 00:21:05.799 that don't house people overnight, but a lot of that guidance still applies and so I will 317 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:11.960 be able to send out those links as well, but I'll walk you through some of that guidance. 318 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:16.120 Certainly just to get a couple definitions down: when I'm talking about "cleaning", I'm 319 00:21:16.120 --> 00:21:21.609 talking about cleaning with a detergent or soap or something that's going to remove visible 320 00:21:21.609 --> 00:21:24.000 dirt, soil, things like that. 321 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:29.190 "Disinfecting" is going to be me talking about use of an actual disinfectant: something that 322 00:21:29.190 --> 00:21:33.320 will kill the residual virus or germs that are present. 323 00:21:33.320 --> 00:21:37.200 So just to be clear on those definitions as well. 324 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:38.309 21:38 325 00:21:38.309 --> 00:21:45.090 In terms of your routine day-to-day activities we're suggesting continuing to and in some 326 00:21:45.090 --> 00:21:53.259 cases, if you feel necessary, increasing the frequency of routine cleaning of hard non-porous 327 00:21:53.259 --> 00:21:55.960 surfaces that are frequently touched. 328 00:21:55.960 --> 00:22:02.539 So the hard surfaces like your railings, your doorknobs, faucets, light switches -- things 329 00:22:02.539 --> 00:22:03.539 like that. 330 00:22:03.539 --> 00:22:09.179 Those are going to be the surfaces that people touch the most, and they're also the surfaces 331 00:22:09.179 --> 00:22:11.029 that the virus could survive on longest. 332 00:22:11.029 --> 00:22:12.029 22:11 333 00:22:12.029 --> 00:22:15.549 So we'd like you to clean and disinfect those regularly. 334 00:22:15.549 --> 00:22:21.529 Again, the good news is that this virus is extremely susceptible to many of the typical 335 00:22:21.529 --> 00:22:26.119 disinfectants that your staff are already probably using. 336 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:31.549 So while I'm going to give you a reference for a list as well of products that are approved 337 00:22:31.549 --> 00:22:36.109 by the EPA for use against coronaviruses, you'll find that that list is essentially 338 00:22:36.109 --> 00:22:40.869 many of the common household and commercial disinfectants you're already using. 339 00:22:40.869 --> 00:22:46.269 This is not a super-virus that survives for extremely long periods and is very resistant 340 00:22:46.269 --> 00:22:47.269 disinfectants. 341 00:22:47.269 --> 00:22:48.269 Quite the opposite. 342 00:22:48.269 --> 00:22:53.330 It's actually quite susceptible to most of our common disinfectants like bleach and alcohols 343 00:22:53.330 --> 00:22:56.529 and other things that you're used to using in your own household. 344 00:22:56.529 --> 00:23:01.360 So I want to put everyone at ease there as well. 345 00:23:01.360 --> 00:23:03.159 23:01 346 00:23:03.159 --> 00:23:09.659 In preparatory settings we're suggesting that you know, do this sort of routine cleaning 347 00:23:09.659 --> 00:23:15.159 and disinfection at least once a day if you can, and perhaps more often if you're able 348 00:23:15.159 --> 00:23:17.989 to based on the feasibility. 349 00:23:17.989 --> 00:23:22.330 We're then also dividing out our guidance and saying if you have a case, what should 350 00:23:22.330 --> 00:23:23.330 you do? 351 00:23:23.330 --> 00:23:28.440 So if someone shows up and is symptomatic or if you're concerned and you find out you 352 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:34.250 have a case of COVID-19 in your facility, what should you do at that point? 353 00:23:34.250 --> 00:23:40.609 We suggest closing off the area the individual was most using. 354 00:23:40.609 --> 00:23:46.469 So if it was one of your staff, perhaps, and they have an office, the area where they were 355 00:23:46.469 --> 00:23:51.710 mainly working that day, close that off for as long as is practical. 356 00:23:51.710 --> 00:23:54.179 Ideally up to 24 hours, if you can. 357 00:23:54.179 --> 00:23:57.830 That 24 hours is not to scare anyone at all. 358 00:23:57.830 --> 00:23:58.830 23:58 359 00:23:58.830 --> 00:24:05.590 It's primarily to allow for any respiratory droplets that would be in the air to settle 360 00:24:05.590 --> 00:24:06.590 out. 361 00:24:06.590 --> 00:24:10.279 The reason why it's so long -- and that may seem very long -- is because when we were 362 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:16.639 developing this guidance, we were developing it for very generally all community settings. 363 00:24:16.639 --> 00:24:20.159 We had to be sort of overly cautious. 364 00:24:20.159 --> 00:24:26.119 In most library settings your air exchanges and the rate at which you have ventilation 365 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:31.769 is going to be much quicker than, say, a stagnant car, which is kind of our worst case example 366 00:24:31.769 --> 00:24:34.259 where the air is just sitting there. 367 00:24:34.259 --> 00:24:38.869 And so, you know, it will be much probably be much shorter than 24 hours. 368 00:24:38.869 --> 00:24:45.229 But if possible close off the area where that individual was for up to 24 hours. 369 00:24:45.229 --> 00:24:49.919 You can open doors and windows to help ventilation, just to help the air move throughout and get 370 00:24:49.919 --> 00:24:52.149 air exchange going. 371 00:24:52.149 --> 00:24:59.249 Then after that period your janitorial staff can go in and clean and disinfect the frequently 372 00:24:59.249 --> 00:25:04.840 touch surfaces especially, but if you can, all surfaces. 373 00:25:04.840 --> 00:25:11.500 In terms of the surfaces or hard non-porous surfaces clean them with any bit of detergent 374 00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:18.679 or soap and water, then use a EPA-registered household disinfectant that are available 375 00:25:18.679 --> 00:25:27.340 on the EPA website under List N. Those are their disinfectants that are effective against 376 00:25:27.340 --> 00:25:28.440 the virus that causes COVID-19. 377 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:29.509 25:29 378 00:25:29.509 --> 00:25:35.489 However, again, this is a virus that is very susceptible to typical EPA-registered household 379 00:25:35.489 --> 00:25:40.710 disinfectants, so we also include guidance on our website and as to how to make diluted 380 00:25:40.710 --> 00:25:48.799 bleach solutions, as well as guidance on use of other solutions like at least 70 percent 381 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.129 alcohol solutions for electronics. 382 00:25:51.129 --> 00:25:52.289 25:53 383 00:25:52.289 --> 00:25:59.590 For soft or porous surfaces, like carpeted floors or rugs or drapes, if there's any visible 384 00:25:59.590 --> 00:26:05.849 contamination there you can clean those off and then you can launder them if possible, 385 00:26:05.849 --> 00:26:11.690 or try to find an appropriate product for that particular surface. 386 00:26:11.690 --> 00:26:17.789 For softer porous surfaces, we are not as concerned about those in terms of their transmission, 387 00:26:17.789 --> 00:26:27.489 just because the virus doesn't survive for as long and it's really hard to get the virus 388 00:26:27.489 --> 00:26:28.809 out of that surface. 389 00:26:28.809 --> 00:26:32.330 Once it's in a fabric, It's probably going to die off there. 390 00:26:32.330 --> 00:26:36.479 It's not going to re-aerosolize and get into individual's lungs at that point. 391 00:26:36.479 --> 00:26:37.479 26:36 392 00:26:37.479 --> 00:26:38.759 So we're really not concerned about that. 393 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:43.580 For similar reasons -- I know a question many of you are concerned about -- we are not concerned 394 00:26:43.580 --> 00:26:49.359 at all about paper based materials like books being a transmission route. 395 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:56.330 In fact in our conversations with election officials we encourage mail-in voting, and 396 00:26:56.330 --> 00:27:00.659 we're not concerned about mail or letters at all as a source of transmission at this 397 00:27:00.659 --> 00:27:01.659 point. 398 00:27:01.659 --> 00:27:06.369 So again for paper based products, we're really not concerned and you don't have to really 399 00:27:06.369 --> 00:27:09.330 worry about finding ways to disinfect those materials. 400 00:27:09.330 --> 00:27:14.309 The virus, if it's present, would be present in very low quantities and would die off pretty 401 00:27:14.309 --> 00:27:15.309 quickly. 402 00:27:15.309 --> 00:27:21.119 For electronics, we are suggesting definitely to think about disinfecting those because 403 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:22.840 they tend to be high touch. 404 00:27:22.840 --> 00:27:23.840 27:23 405 00:27:23.840 --> 00:27:28.549 Those should be disinfected with either a product approved by the manufacturer or if 406 00:27:28.549 --> 00:27:34.950 there is no product available, no manufacturer's guidance, consider the use of alcohol-based 407 00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:38.830 wipes or sprays that contain at least 70% alcohol. 408 00:27:38.830 --> 00:27:39.830 27:39 409 00:27:39.830 --> 00:27:44.010 In terms of my final point will be around personal protective equipment that your janitorial 410 00:27:44.010 --> 00:27:49.250 staff would need: because of the fact that we're asking people to sort of wait in some 411 00:27:49.250 --> 00:27:55.599 of these in these areas before they enter a facility, that means that the only personal 412 00:27:55.599 --> 00:28:01.330 protective equipment that's required for janitorial staff is going to be that which is required 413 00:28:01.330 --> 00:28:02.969 by the disinfectant itself. 414 00:28:02.969 --> 00:28:03.969 28:03 415 00:28:03.969 --> 00:28:10.989 So your normal cover-all or other sort of gowns or Abram, whatever else you use; your 416 00:28:10.989 --> 00:28:14.940 daily cleaning equipment, as well as gloves. 417 00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:20.929 Disposable gloves if possible, but reusable gloves otherwise. 418 00:28:20.929 --> 00:28:27.299 We're not suggesting any COVID-specific PPE cleaners because of the fact that with our 419 00:28:27.299 --> 00:28:31.080 guidance we're allowing for this time period for the virus to get out of the air so the 420 00:28:31.080 --> 00:28:35.740 janitorial staff do not need to be worried about coming into the virus through their 421 00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:37.149 nose or mouth. 422 00:28:37.149 --> 00:28:38.210 28:38 423 00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:45.089 Again, after all of this cleaning, as Catherine mentioned, please emphasize also hand hygiene 424 00:28:45.089 --> 00:28:48.539 throughout this, especially after finishing cleaning. 425 00:28:48.539 --> 00:28:55.009 Then after that cleaning process, we feel like the area should be safe to reopen to 426 00:28:55.009 --> 00:28:56.009 everyone. 427 00:28:56.009 --> 00:29:04.779 That's the main guidance we want to communicate and across to you as staff and managers of 428 00:29:04.779 --> 00:29:07.929 these libraries and of these community facilities in terms of 429 00:29:07.929 --> 00:29:09.700 cleaning and disinfection. 430 00:29:09.700 --> 00:29:18.979 **Crosby Kemper:** Craig, so shall we move to questions now? 431 00:29:18.979 --> 00:29:19.979 29:22 432 00:29:19.979 --> 00:29:23.519 **Craig** That sounds good Crosby. 433 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:29.869 **Crosby Kemper:** Okay, so, Dr. Berendes, one question that occurs to me and I imagine 434 00:29:29.869 --> 00:29:36.279 has occurred to a lot of librarians as you were speaking there towards the end is that 435 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.710 you're not being worried about paper-based products. 436 00:29:40.710 --> 00:29:46.960 Some of us have read it's, been published in various locations, because I've seen it 437 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:55.849 more than one, that the virus could exist for as long as 24 hours on paper on or in 438 00:29:55.849 --> 00:29:56.849 a book. 439 00:29:56.849 --> 00:30:04.070 I read you; I hear what you have to say as being counter to that. 440 00:30:04.070 --> 00:30:11.700 Can you talk a little bit more about how long the virus lasts or if it's just so weak on 441 00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:13.919 paper that we shouldn't be concerned about it? 442 00:30:13.919 --> 00:30:14.919 30:16 443 00:30:14.919 --> 00:30:15.950 **Dr. Berendes:** Sure. 444 00:30:15.950 --> 00:30:21.049 Yeah, so the survival is -- so there has been a study that was published that showed that 445 00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:28.010 survival of the virus on porous surfaces like cardboard lasted for up to 24 hours. 446 00:30:28.010 --> 00:30:33.879 However, that was under sort of ideal lab conditions is one point to emphasize, and 447 00:30:33.879 --> 00:30:40.499 also we don't know anything about then the virus's ability to then get back out of that 448 00:30:40.499 --> 00:30:46.830 surface and onto your hands or on to ... for you to come into contact with it in some way. 449 00:30:46.830 --> 00:30:53.799 So we're much more concerned about the hard non-porous surfaces that are high touch, because 450 00:30:53.799 --> 00:31:00.859 the virus survives longer on them, but also because it's much easier for your hands to 451 00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:04.239 become contaminated with it after touching one of those surfaces. 452 00:31:04.239 --> 00:31:05.239 31:05 453 00:31:05.239 --> 00:31:10.200 So additionally, the only additional point I'll make also is that just in terms of the 454 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:18.739 amount of virus that an infected person is shedding, we really believe that that would 455 00:31:18.739 --> 00:31:24.209 be ... that that shedding is going to be highest if an individual is symptomatic and coughing. 456 00:31:24.209 --> 00:31:31.369 So really for us to have been concerned about transmission from any paper-based material, 457 00:31:31.369 --> 00:31:37.889 the individual would have really had to cough or sneeze directly on the object, and, you 458 00:31:37.889 --> 00:31:40.299 know, really have contaminated it. 459 00:31:40.299 --> 00:31:46.690 The sort of regular use by individuals -- and hopefully no one is really sneezing into your 460 00:31:46.690 --> 00:31:50.809 books and things like that -- does not really concern us from that standpoint. 461 00:31:50.809 --> 00:31:55.220 **Crosby Kemper:** So I think you know, I think I'm sure I speak for a Librarians and 462 00:31:55.220 --> 00:32:00.649 probably for Museum folks too, who have some paper based materials, we're pretty sure that 463 00:32:00.649 --> 00:32:06.729 with some regularity the people are sneezing on to our books. 464 00:32:06.729 --> 00:32:10.309 Of course the question would be how *recently* they've sneezed on it. 465 00:32:10.309 --> 00:32:18.799 Do they sneeze on it right before they return it in the dropbox, or to the desk? 466 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:25.690 If there is concern among librarians, which there is, about that particular circumstance, 467 00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:34.450 that an infected person can have discharged in one way or another onto a material, onto 468 00:32:34.450 --> 00:32:43.359 a book or a DVD or whatever it might be, what would you recommend if that is the concern? 469 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.179 What is safe handling of that? 470 00:32:47.179 --> 00:32:55.370 If there is a 24-hour -- under ideal conditions -- possibility of the virus sustaining, should 471 00:32:55.370 --> 00:33:02.820 the books be quarantined for a day before they're brought into human contact? 472 00:33:02.820 --> 00:33:10.019 **Dr: Berendes:** So I would say that one part of this would be on the front end educating 473 00:33:10.019 --> 00:33:18.419 your consumers, reminding them, as Catherine said, about good hand hygiene, about symptom 474 00:33:18.419 --> 00:33:23.479 monitoring, trying to make sure that people are not are not going out when they're sick 475 00:33:23.479 --> 00:33:24.879 and they're staying home. 476 00:33:24.879 --> 00:33:32.989 But also then if you are concerned you could -- if you're very concerned about books in 477 00:33:32.989 --> 00:33:37.940 particular, you could leave them for a 24-hour period. 478 00:33:37.940 --> 00:33:44.639 Again only if you're really concerned that someone was symptomatic with them during that 479 00:33:44.639 --> 00:33:46.049 during the period that they had the book. 480 00:33:46.049 --> 00:33:47.049 33:47 481 00:33:47.049 --> 00:33:53.489 I would also say that for DVDs or other materials that are more easily cleaned -- DVDs may have 482 00:33:53.489 --> 00:33:58.999 those sort of plastic covers, things like that -- those are pretty easily wipeable with 483 00:33:58.999 --> 00:34:00.029 alcohol wipes. 484 00:34:00.029 --> 00:34:01.029 34:00 485 00:34:01.029 --> 00:34:05.679 So if there is something appropriate for it, or I know in a previous conversation, we also 486 00:34:05.679 --> 00:34:12.560 had questions around books that had plastic or books that had Braille and had plastic 487 00:34:12.560 --> 00:34:14.769 sort of Coatings or so. 488 00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:19.909 Those types of services are going to be easy to disinfect and clean using for example an 489 00:34:19.909 --> 00:34:21.520 alcohol wipe of some sort. 490 00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:26.379 So that would be another way to deal with those other types of materials. 491 00:34:26.379 --> 00:34:33.029 **Crosby Kemper:** Right, and then in terms of disinfectants, you've mainly been talking 492 00:34:33.029 --> 00:34:41.980 about alcohol-based disinfectants and there are a lot of materials, particularly some 493 00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:48.839 paper materials, that don't react well to alcohol base disinfectants. 494 00:34:48.839 --> 00:34:56.609 On the CDC website or in other places are there list of disinfectants that are not alcohol-based 495 00:34:56.609 --> 00:34:59.960 and that would be more appropriate for paper-based materials. 496 00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:00.960 35:02 497 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:07.480 **Dr. Berendes:** So our website links to the EPA who it's really the EPA's purview 498 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:15.599 to list out the cleaners and disinfectants that have met the criteria for effectiveness 499 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:16.599 against this virus. 500 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:17.599 35:17 501 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.430 So that's the EPA List N that I was referring to. 502 00:35:20.430 --> 00:35:21.670 **Crosby Kemper:** Okay, great. 503 00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:25.132 **Dr. Berendes:** Cleaners and disinfectants are primarily -- and the majority of them 504 00:35:25.132 --> 00:35:33.799 are meant for hard non-porous surfaces again, so that's part of why ... that's also because 505 00:35:33.799 --> 00:35:34.920 that's what they're designed for. 506 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.900 That's where most of the disinfection concerns are. 507 00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:42.589 There are some I believe that are appropriate for some porous soft materials, but it's more 508 00:35:42.589 --> 00:35:45.019 like fabrics and less like paper. 509 00:35:45.019 --> 00:35:50.970 So again, you know, main principle being we're not very concerned about the virus getting 510 00:35:50.970 --> 00:35:54.520 out of the book or out of any sort of paper materials or things like that. 511 00:35:54.520 --> 00:35:55.520 35:55 512 00:35:55.520 --> 00:36:01.500 If you were really concerned you could wait for a 24-hour period in between lendings if 513 00:36:01.500 --> 00:36:06.039 you are particularly in an area of very high transmission, for example. 514 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.910 **Crosby Kemper:** Right. 515 00:36:07.910 --> 00:36:13.490 So the safest thing would simply be to wait for a day. 516 00:36:13.490 --> 00:36:23.230 So another question that has been asked, a lot of libraries have sensitive air handling, 517 00:36:23.230 --> 00:36:25.940 which you referred to before. 518 00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:31.580 Ozone systems -- does the CDC have a view of ozone systems? 519 00:36:31.580 --> 00:36:32.580 36:32 520 00:36:32.580 --> 00:36:40.730 Air purifying systems, on top of the normal HVAC kind of air handling systems, as to whether 521 00:36:40.730 --> 00:36:45.930 or not they offer some form of environmental protection? 522 00:36:45.930 --> 00:36:46.930 36:48 523 00:36:46.930 --> 00:36:49.569 **Dr. Berendes:** We don't at this point. 524 00:36:49.569 --> 00:36:55.529 Again, the EPA are the folks who sort of it's their purview to regulate make a decision 525 00:36:55.529 --> 00:36:57.950 on what's effective and what's not effective. 526 00:36:57.950 --> 00:37:04.540 I do know that some of the ozonators have been used, I believe, but I would have to 527 00:37:04.540 --> 00:37:09.520 check the EPA list to ensure that they're on that list. 528 00:37:09.520 --> 00:37:17.690 We have been asked about that a few times, and the main kind of caveat I would add is 529 00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:20.039 that we want to make sure that people are going to use those systems. 530 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.369 They're using them properly and they know how to use them. 531 00:37:22.369 --> 00:37:26.470 So that's not what it also be a reason why you may not see it appear on our community 532 00:37:26.470 --> 00:37:32.460 page because we might not suggest something super complex for the general public. 533 00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:33.560 37:34 534 00:37:33.560 --> 00:37:36.880 **Crosby Kemper:** Right. 535 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:50.490 Um, yeah generally speaking, the time period for the crisis -- I think this is probably 536 00:37:50.490 --> 00:37:56.099 a question you can't very specifically answer, but we're getting guidance over 537 00:37:56.099 --> 00:38:04.859 this is for the I guess the length of time people need to prepare for the emergency response, 538 00:38:04.859 --> 00:38:14.670 we're being told now that we've got another 30 days until the possible end of the crisis. 539 00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:23.480 From a material point of view from rural public health point of view, the guidance around 540 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:29.690 six feet of distance, et cetera., does that extend to the this 30-day period or will it 541 00:38:29.690 --> 00:38:31.289 extend beyond? 542 00:38:31.289 --> 00:38:32.289 38:34 543 00:38:32.289 --> 00:38:40.990 **Dr. Rasberry:** So I think it's reasonable to expect that even as places open up and 544 00:38:40.990 --> 00:38:46.930 people get out into their community more, that there's going to be need for continued 545 00:38:46.930 --> 00:38:50.180 social distancing for some period of time. 546 00:38:50.180 --> 00:38:57.200 Now what that period of time is, is going to be a question that is probably best answered 547 00:38:57.200 --> 00:39:00.329 by some of the local health officials in your own community. 548 00:39:00.329 --> 00:39:01.329 39:01 549 00:39:01.329 --> 00:39:07.430 We know that different communities currently are in different stages or levels of community 550 00:39:07.430 --> 00:39:10.470 spread, and that will likely continue to be the case. 551 00:39:10.470 --> 00:39:15.150 So, it will be really important to work with your local health officials to think about 552 00:39:15.150 --> 00:39:19.809 the strategies that are best used in your own facility and community. 553 00:39:19.809 --> 00:39:28.420 I do think it's appropriate to plan for social distancing for a more extended period of time, 554 00:39:28.420 --> 00:39:32.690 just to make sure that we're protecting staff and employees as best as we can. 555 00:39:32.690 --> 00:39:33.690 39:33 556 00:39:33.690 --> 00:39:37.480 How extended it is -- that's going to be a question that your health officials can help 557 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.480 you with. 558 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:41.299 **Crosby Kemper:** Okay, great. 559 00:39:41.299 --> 00:39:51.290 A very specific question that we've been asked is about electrostatic spray as opposed to 560 00:39:51.290 --> 00:39:52.890 the normal disinfectants. 561 00:39:52.890 --> 00:39:58.400 Is that another question where we should go to the EPA or do you have a view of that? 562 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.190 Is that something that could be used by museums and libraries? 563 00:40:02.190 --> 00:40:03.190 40:04 564 00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:06.829 **Dr. Berendes:** I know that there are some sprayers on the EPA list done because we have 565 00:40:06.829 --> 00:40:09.019 had a few questions on that. 566 00:40:09.019 --> 00:40:11.890 So they were listed as effective disinfectants. 567 00:40:11.890 --> 00:40:15.680 I don't know if those particular brands or products are, but there certainly are some 568 00:40:15.680 --> 00:40:20.579 spray-based materials that are on that list and I want to say there are about 250 or maybe 569 00:40:20.579 --> 00:40:23.030 even three hundred products on that list by now. 570 00:40:23.030 --> 00:40:24.030 40:24 571 00:40:24.030 --> 00:40:30.190 **Crosby Kemper:** Okay great, but we'll certainly link to the EPA on our site once we get that 572 00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:32.990 up and running. 573 00:40:32.990 --> 00:40:36.360 This is a fairly specific question as well. 574 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:41.660 I think I know the answer but it's been asked and it'd be great to get an answer from you. 575 00:40:41.660 --> 00:40:48.750 Are there anything any particular things we should be looking for from materials that 576 00:40:48.750 --> 00:40:57.869 might come from outside the United States -- either things we might pick up from vendors, 577 00:40:57.869 --> 00:41:02.190 or materials that through international lending? 578 00:41:02.190 --> 00:41:03.359 41:03 579 00:41:03.359 --> 00:41:13.900 **Dr. Berendes:** Again, in terms of any materials that are coming in, best practices are practicing 580 00:41:13.900 --> 00:41:21.140 good hand hygiene if you're the person receiving the materials, and then if you're very concerned, 581 00:41:21.140 --> 00:41:28.970 you know, you could let it sit for 24 hour period or so, but that's again not in our 582 00:41:28.970 --> 00:41:29.970 concern. 583 00:41:29.970 --> 00:41:33.971 We haven't been concerned at all about people shipping packages internationally, things 584 00:41:33.971 --> 00:41:38.680 like that, just because the virus is going to be very unlikely to survive for that long 585 00:41:38.680 --> 00:41:43.230 of a period through shipment and everything else and get to you in an infectious state 586 00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:44.230 of being. 587 00:41:44.230 --> 00:41:49.339 But if you're very concerned, again, practice good hand hygiene in those settings. 588 00:41:49.339 --> 00:41:53.400 Have alcohol-based hand sanitizers with at least 60 percent alcohol and hand washing 589 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.509 with soap and water available to the employees that are doing the receiving so they can practice 590 00:41:57.509 --> 00:42:02.450 it while they're doing that receiving and also have them avoid touching their nose and 591 00:42:02.450 --> 00:42:04.470 mouth during that time. 592 00:42:04.470 --> 00:42:07.100 **Crosby Kemper:** Great, thank you. 593 00:42:07.100 --> 00:42:14.940 And then one other fairly specific question: a lot of museums and libraries have restaurants 594 00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:16.560 or cafes inside. 595 00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:23.170 Is there any more specific guidance than the general guidance you have given us that one 596 00:42:23.170 --> 00:42:36.460 would need closing down or re-establishing the activities of any food service in a museum 597 00:42:36.460 --> 00:42:37.520 or Library? 598 00:42:37.520 --> 00:42:38.520 42:38 599 00:42:38.520 --> 00:42:44.680 **Dr. Berendes:** Yeah, no, there's nothing essentially COVID-19 specific but we would 600 00:42:44.680 --> 00:42:51.190 refer those food services to local food code and sort of best practices for management 601 00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:57.470 in terms of shutting down, normal shutdown procedures, flushing of water based systems 602 00:42:57.470 --> 00:43:02.740 and pipes, things like that and then following their proper procedures for coming online 603 00:43:02.740 --> 00:43:10.180 just to avoid any other potential, you know, risks that come from leaving your pipes and 604 00:43:10.180 --> 00:43:15.359 other materials unattended for you know a few weeks on end. 605 00:43:15.359 --> 00:43:20.970 It also wouldn't be a bad idea to you know, just do another cleaning and disinfection 606 00:43:20.970 --> 00:43:23.740 of surfaces before you start and reopen. 607 00:43:23.740 --> 00:43:24.740 43:25 608 00:43:24.740 --> 00:43:29.700 **Crosby Kemper:** Right, and then I've got one other question that you've probably in 609 00:43:29.700 --> 00:43:39.109 a way already answered but it's fairly specific, So I'll ask it and I'll ask it in to two parts. 610 00:43:39.109 --> 00:43:45.540 Wi-Fi is available outside of many libraries, and even to some extent museums. 611 00:43:45.540 --> 00:43:54.080 And also libraries and museums encounter various groups who hang out in the library or even 612 00:43:54.080 --> 00:44:05.750 hang out outside of the library -- sometimes homeless or shelter populations etc. 613 00:44:05.750 --> 00:44:12.600 Is there any specific guidance you might have if that is the case for a library or museum? 614 00:44:12.600 --> 00:44:21.730 I.e. groups that might have a higher level of encountering the infection? 615 00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:27.559 **Dr. Rasberry:** So I would say in general you want to think about the same things for 616 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.869 the outside of -- *some* of the same things for the outside of your space as the inside. 617 00:44:31.869 --> 00:44:37.869 I mentioned earlier the idea of posting some reminders and sort of visual prompts to help 618 00:44:37.869 --> 00:44:43.309 people remember those preventive actions and things like keeping a six feet away from people 619 00:44:43.309 --> 00:44:45.359 who aren't in their same household. 620 00:44:45.359 --> 00:44:48.520 You could put stuff like that outside of your facility as well. 621 00:44:48.520 --> 00:44:49.520 44:48 622 00:44:49.520 --> 00:44:54.630 We've seen examples in other settings where if -- let's say there's an area where you 623 00:44:54.630 --> 00:44:59.589 have tables or benches or something like that, you could go ahead and space those out potentially 624 00:44:59.589 --> 00:45:02.740 so that they are more appropriate distance from each other. 625 00:45:02.740 --> 00:45:04.700 Have those visual reminders. 626 00:45:04.700 --> 00:45:07.700 All those things are appropriate to try. 627 00:45:07.700 --> 00:45:13.420 If there are specific populations, like you just mentioned specifically homeless individuals, 628 00:45:13.420 --> 00:45:18.020 you may find some more of our guidance documents helpful for thinking about those groups. 629 00:45:18.020 --> 00:45:19.020 45:18 630 00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:22.300 So for example, we do have some guidance related specifically to homeless individuals. 631 00:45:22.300 --> 00:45:26.440 But again, I would encourage you to reach out to your local health officials and talk 632 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:32.750 through any specific situation that you're dealing with at your facility or in your community 633 00:45:32.750 --> 00:45:36.349 so that you can plan together on how to best respond. 634 00:45:36.349 --> 00:45:37.349 45:37 635 00:45:37.349 --> 00:45:39.869 **Crosby Kemper:** Okay, great. 636 00:45:39.869 --> 00:45:44.950 I've run through the questions that we got before the webinar. 637 00:45:44.950 --> 00:45:50.230 Scott or Nancy, do you have some questions that have come in during? 638 00:45:50.230 --> 00:45:51.829 **Scott:** Yes indeed, Crosby. 639 00:45:51.829 --> 00:45:56.910 Everyone is quite anxious to have some questions answered. 640 00:45:56.910 --> 00:46:02.200 One of them is how about a UV light as a disinfectant? 641 00:46:02.200 --> 00:46:03.200 46:05 642 00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:06.890 **Dr. Berendes:** Yeah, so that's a great question. 643 00:46:06.890 --> 00:46:15.240 I had again refer to EPA's list for guidance for disinfectants. 644 00:46:15.240 --> 00:46:23.950 And we do know that UV isn't -- the device may not be on there, but we have seen UV disinfection 645 00:46:23.950 --> 00:46:27.930 used in a couple different places and believe that it should be effective. 646 00:46:27.930 --> 00:46:34.109 But again EPA and others may have more guidance on that, but make sure that you're using it 647 00:46:34.109 --> 00:46:38.960 with the proper materials that it's appropriate for. 648 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.799 **Scott:** Okay, thank you. 649 00:46:42.799 --> 00:46:46.980 Another question comes regarding the volume of materials. 650 00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:54.349 The question is that "My library is unable to wipe down all DVDs and other mylar book 651 00:46:54.349 --> 00:46:58.180 covers it with hard services for these items. 652 00:46:58.180 --> 00:47:03.680 Would a 24-hour quarantine be enough time to make these materials safe or should we 653 00:47:03.680 --> 00:47:09.720 wait longer to make it safe for staff or patrons to touch it with their hands?" 654 00:47:09.720 --> 00:47:10.720 47:12 655 00:47:10.720 --> 00:47:18.240 **Dr. Berendes:** So again, I want to reiterate that, you know, under these ... even under 656 00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:22.289 sort of the current time period of transmission. 657 00:47:22.289 --> 00:47:28.490 unless you know someone was very visibly ill with a product or so paper is product we're 658 00:47:28.490 --> 00:47:34.869 not really concerned about that paper-based book or so being a transmission route. 659 00:47:34.869 --> 00:47:35.869 47:35 660 00:47:35.869 --> 00:47:41.960 However, if you were concerned about the book having something the virus on it, you could 661 00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:50.499 leave it aside for an up to 24 hour period which should be sufficient for that. 662 00:47:50.499 --> 00:47:58.309 For the DVDs or other products, if you're not wiping them down, again a 24 hour period 663 00:47:58.309 --> 00:48:00.460 should be fine. 664 00:48:00.460 --> 00:48:05.869 If you're a very concerned you can leave it for up to 48 hours, but 24 hours should be 665 00:48:05.869 --> 00:48:12.249 more than sufficient just based on the fact that, again, for a lot of these surfaces an 666 00:48:12.249 --> 00:48:16.730 incidental contact from someone is not going to be a very high transmission risk. 667 00:48:16.730 --> 00:48:23.440 It's going to be if someone was very sick on the material and had shed a lot of virus 668 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.519 on it that would be of concern. 669 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:26.519 48:27 670 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.740 **Scott:** Thank you, David. 671 00:48:28.740 --> 00:48:39.609 Another question comes in asking about a disinfectant other than alcohol based, being benzalkonium 672 00:48:39.609 --> 00:48:43.130 chloride, or BAK. 673 00:48:43.130 --> 00:48:45.349 Is something like that except acceptable? 674 00:48:45.349 --> 00:48:46.349 48:48 675 00:48:46.349 --> 00:48:52.910 **Dr. Berendes:** Yeah, so the EPA ... so benzalkonium chloride as a surface disinfectant 676 00:48:52.910 --> 00:48:57.569 is one of the quaternary ammonium compounds, and there are several quaternary ammonium 677 00:48:57.569 --> 00:49:01.279 compounds that are listed on that EPA list. 678 00:49:01.279 --> 00:49:05.519 So you'd have to refer to that list in terms of the different formulations and what's effective 679 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:06.519 there. 680 00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:07.519 49:09 681 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:11.079 **Scott:** Okay, thank you. 682 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:15.869 This one is a result is one of the practical matters for libraries. 683 00:49:15.869 --> 00:49:22.559 Quite often their book drops either are full or are locked, and so people end up leaving 684 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:31.130 them sitting outside, and so in order to avoid an unsightly situation staff will bring them 685 00:49:31.130 --> 00:49:32.599 into the building. 686 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.309 Is there a recommendation as to how staff may do that in a safe manner? 687 00:49:37.309 --> 00:49:38.309 49:40 688 00:49:38.309 --> 00:49:43.579 **Dr. Berendes** Again, I think we would just emphasize that the staff practice good hand 689 00:49:43.579 --> 00:49:49.309 hygiene after touching the books if they're concerned at all. 690 00:49:49.309 --> 00:49:52.910 So make sure they wash their hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds or use an 691 00:49:52.910 --> 00:49:57.170 alcohol-based sanitizer with at least 60 percent alcohol. 692 00:49:57.170 --> 00:49:58.770 **Scott:** Okay. 693 00:49:58.770 --> 00:50:04.599 Thank you ... scrolling through the large number of questions here ... bear with me 694 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:08.160 one moment. 695 00:50:08.160 --> 00:50:11.369 50:14 696 00:50:11.369 --> 00:50:21.079 **Scott:** Validating that you did include cardboard with the paper-based products in 697 00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.220 your recommendation, correct? 698 00:50:24.220 --> 00:50:25.390 50:24 699 00:50:25.390 --> 00:50:28.900 **Dr. Berendes:** Yes. 700 00:50:28.900 --> 00:50:30.069 50:26 701 00:50:30.069 --> 00:50:32.410 **Scott:** Okay. 702 00:50:32.410 --> 00:50:37.809 It appears that the vast majority of the questions are similar. 703 00:50:37.809 --> 00:50:38.809 Let's see. 704 00:50:38.809 --> 00:50:43.650 It says "If there is a shelter-in-place order in our state, would it be advisable to promote 705 00:50:43.650 --> 00:50:50.089 being outside to use Wi-Fi as long as we are posted at the 6-foot distance and other guidelines?" 706 00:50:50.089 --> 00:50:53.410 Similar question to what Crosby asked. 707 00:50:53.410 --> 00:50:55.099 50:58 708 00:50:55.099 --> 00:51:01.480 **Dr. Rasberry** So I'm not totally sure about that. 709 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:11.759 I've seen shelter in place guidance or orders I should say in different places that will 710 00:51:11.759 --> 00:51:17.319 often outline sort of what are essential services, and I don't know that that would fall under 711 00:51:17.319 --> 00:51:19.980 an essential service for every place. 712 00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:26.279 So I think looking at your specific language in the order for your community, again talking 713 00:51:26.279 --> 00:51:31.030 with your local health officials would be pretty important. 714 00:51:31.030 --> 00:51:35.970 I would say that would supersede the 6-foot thing. 715 00:51:35.970 --> 00:51:39.619 I would *really* talk with your local health officials to make sure that you have a clear 716 00:51:39.619 --> 00:51:44.960 understanding of what is and isn't allowed under a shelter in place order. 717 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.609 **Scott:** Thank you, Catherine. 718 00:51:46.609 --> 00:51:53.589 **Dr. Berendes:** I'd also add that Catherine's point earlier about getting in touch with 719 00:51:53.589 --> 00:51:59.100 your local officials *early* can help with getting on their radar. 720 00:51:59.100 --> 00:52:03.160 And if you feel like you're going to place where you want to be an essential service 721 00:52:03.160 --> 00:52:09.400 because there's so many people who rely on your Wi-Fi for things, or any other public 722 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.039 services, then the earlier you can open those lines of communication the better off you're 723 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:14.039 going to be. 724 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.240 **Dr. Rasberry:** Absolutely. 725 00:52:15.240 --> 00:52:16.259 **Scott:** Okay. 726 00:52:16.259 --> 00:52:17.269 Thank you. 727 00:52:17.269 --> 00:52:25.279 I've got a question says "Some libraries have warming tents that deal with bed bugs. 728 00:52:25.279 --> 00:52:29.880 As a way to eliminate bed bugs, they heat things up pretty high. 729 00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:35.450 So would that potentially be good use for materials that have been exposed?" 730 00:52:35.450 --> 00:52:36.650 52:39 731 00:52:36.650 --> 00:52:42.630 **Dr. Berendes:** Without knowing the specifics -- I'm not familiar with those -- that sounds 732 00:52:42.630 --> 00:52:48.130 like an ingenious technique and I don't know that I could comment on the specifics of it. 733 00:52:48.130 --> 00:52:55.359 But we do know that the virus doesn't tend to like being a hotter environments. 734 00:52:55.359 --> 00:53:00.599 But again without looking the specifics I couldn't comment on that specific equipment. 735 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.380 53:04 736 00:53:02.380 --> 00:53:06.890 **Scott:** Thank you. 737 00:53:06.890 --> 00:53:15.410 I think people are quite anxious about the 24-hour quarantine if it's enough for a safe 738 00:53:15.410 --> 00:53:19.250 circulation of Library materials. 739 00:53:19.250 --> 00:53:22.460 Is there a potential to perhaps restate that sir? 740 00:53:22.460 --> 00:53:23.460 53:25 741 00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:24.740 **Dr. Berendes:** Yes. 742 00:53:24.740 --> 00:53:32.630 So again, yeah the 24 hours -- and I want to emphasize -- is if you're very concerned 743 00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:37.290 about someone having gotten a lot of virus on a material. 744 00:53:37.290 --> 00:53:44.309 I'm talking about someone having coughed to physical mucus, large amounts of gross material 745 00:53:44.309 --> 00:53:45.359 on it. 746 00:53:45.359 --> 00:53:47.970 That would be of concern. 747 00:53:47.970 --> 00:53:58.819 We're more concerned about transmission through people being in close contact with each other, 748 00:53:58.819 --> 00:53:59.819 number one. 749 00:53:59.819 --> 00:54:03.890 So being within six feet of each other, which is why we have the physical distancing. 750 00:54:03.890 --> 00:54:12.859 And then after that, contact with frequently touch surfaces, like doorknobs and railings 751 00:54:12.859 --> 00:54:16.740 and light switches and faucets and things like that. 752 00:54:16.740 --> 00:54:22.579 After all of those come other materials that people touch, but not as frequently, or the 753 00:54:22.579 --> 00:54:24.099 porous materials. 754 00:54:24.099 --> 00:54:25.099 54:25 755 00:54:25.099 --> 00:54:29.810 Again, the bad news is that those are harder to disinfect. 756 00:54:29.810 --> 00:54:32.640 So your only options, maybe if you're very concerned, is to leave them. 757 00:54:32.640 --> 00:54:37.140 But the good news is that those materials don't tend to retain as much virus, and if 758 00:54:37.140 --> 00:54:40.849 they do retain virus, it's very hard to get them out of out of there and so they're not 759 00:54:40.849 --> 00:54:42.489 really going to be a transmission risk. 760 00:54:42.489 --> 00:54:47.630 Again, we're not concerned about, you know, people doing mail-in ballots in States like 761 00:54:47.630 --> 00:54:52.231 Washington State when they were under high transmission orders or high transmission magnitude, 762 00:54:52.231 --> 00:54:56.279 and we aren't concerned about cardboard materials as well 763 00:54:56.279 --> 00:55:05.390 So I want to just emphasize that you know, the 24 hours is only if you are exceedingly 764 00:55:05.390 --> 00:55:09.029 concerned under the most certain conditions, you can undertake that. 765 00:55:09.029 --> 00:55:15.299 I totally hear everyone's concern, but I do want to make sure that we reprioritize what 766 00:55:15.299 --> 00:55:19.579 we know is the most important transmission pathways, which is respiratory close contact 767 00:55:19.579 --> 00:55:24.430 with people, followed by touching frequently-touched surfaces. 768 00:55:24.430 --> 00:55:26.509 And then after that come the porous materials. 769 00:55:26.509 --> 00:55:29.019 **Scott:** All right, thank you David. 770 00:55:29.019 --> 00:55:33.359 There's some general concern -- I guess in the media there's been a lot about the virus's 771 00:55:33.359 --> 00:55:40.210 ability to become airborne from clothes when shaken and moved around, and it may be a concern 772 00:55:40.210 --> 00:55:42.539 with Library materials as well. 773 00:55:42.539 --> 00:55:53.180 And so do you recommend personnel wearing masks during the disinfectant process? 774 00:55:53.180 --> 00:55:54.180 55:55 775 00:55:54.180 --> 00:56:04.759 **Dr. Berendes:** So if this is after contact or after you've had some sort of case in the 776 00:56:04.759 --> 00:56:13.859 area, that 24-hour period is going to get the virus out of the air so that you can walk 777 00:56:13.859 --> 00:56:17.930 around that space and clean it safely. 778 00:56:17.930 --> 00:56:22.789 Then of course when you're doing the laundry, we do recommend not to shake it so as not 779 00:56:22.789 --> 00:56:26.309 to have the potential to aerosolize the virus any more. 780 00:56:26.309 --> 00:56:34.049 But no, there's no sort of recommendation around masks as PPE during laundry, we would 781 00:56:34.049 --> 00:56:40.239 only say that you make sure that you clean your hands well after handling any laundry 782 00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.510 that had contact with someone with COVID-19. 783 00:56:43.510 --> 00:56:44.510 56:46 784 00:56:44.510 --> 00:56:46.609 **Scott:** Okay, thank you. 785 00:56:46.609 --> 00:56:48.569 And then what about shoes? 786 00:56:48.569 --> 00:56:55.210 There's concern that the virus can be transported into a space on someone's shoes. 787 00:56:55.210 --> 00:56:56.380 56:58 788 00:56:56.380 --> 00:57:02.930 **Dr. Berendes:** Again, we're thinking about high-touch surfaces. 789 00:57:02.930 --> 00:57:11.239 And so we're not thinking about or concerned at this point about even if a virus was on 790 00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:15.140 shoes and got into an area. 791 00:57:15.140 --> 00:57:20.349 It wouldn't probably last very long in that area and there wouldn't be enough of it to 792 00:57:20.349 --> 00:57:26.839 get people sick, and there would be very few people who are coming into contact with the 793 00:57:26.839 --> 00:57:28.059 floor in that area. 794 00:57:28.059 --> 00:57:34.150 So that doesn't occur to us as a very high likelihood of transmission. 795 00:57:34.150 --> 00:57:39.980 And in other settings, for example in public spaces we're not suggesting disinfecting of 796 00:57:39.980 --> 00:57:41.410 sidewalks, things like that. 797 00:57:41.410 --> 00:57:47.670 I know everyone's seen the pictures of everyone wearing all sorts of crazy PPE and spraying 798 00:57:47.670 --> 00:57:48.670 chlorine on sidewalks. 799 00:57:48.670 --> 00:57:52.410 We are not recommending that by any means we're just saying in public spaces clean your 800 00:57:52.410 --> 00:57:55.670 high-touch surfaces, your railings, your metal tables. 801 00:57:55.670 --> 00:57:56.670 Things like that. 802 00:57:56.670 --> 00:57:57.670 57:57 803 00:57:57.670 --> 00:58:00.660 But don't worry about the floor or the sidewalks themselves. 804 00:58:00.660 --> 00:58:01.789 58:04 805 00:58:01.789 --> 00:58:04.540 **Scott:** Well, thank you David. 806 00:58:04.540 --> 00:58:06.920 I appreciate that very much. 807 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:12.509 We're very close on to the end of time and I simply want to let everyone know that all 808 00:58:12.509 --> 00:58:18.020 of the questions that have come in we will be following up with our CDC panelists to 809 00:58:18.020 --> 00:58:20.970 provide answers on the imls.gov website. 810 00:58:20.970 --> 00:58:23.890 Crosby, do you have any parting thoughts? 811 00:58:23.890 --> 00:58:28.920 **Crosby Kemper:** Yeah, I want to re-emphasize that this will be an ongoing interaction we've 812 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.010 got with the CDC. 813 00:58:31.010 --> 00:58:37.630 Obviously we need to generate some information from the EPA on disinfectants for the special 814 00:58:37.630 --> 00:58:42.000 material needs in libraries and museums. 815 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:43.160 So we'll keep that up. 816 00:58:43.160 --> 00:58:46.800 You can come to our website, I know we'll be sharing information with the Department 817 00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:50.850 of Education and others on their websites as well. 818 00:58:50.850 --> 00:58:54.230 So I'd urge you to continue to look for that information. 819 00:58:54.230 --> 00:58:55.230 58:55 820 00:58:55.230 --> 00:59:00.390 Also, I think one of the messages is good communication to and from your community and 821 00:59:00.390 --> 00:59:05.450 particularly with your local health officials is one of the most important takeaways from 822 00:59:05.450 --> 00:59:07.789 today's webinar. 823 00:59:07.789 --> 00:59:17.349 And I want to say a big thank you to Dr. David Berendes and to Dr. Catherine Rasberry for 824 00:59:17.349 --> 00:59:20.460 their participation today. 825 00:59:20.460 --> 00:59:24.109 We're really grateful that you would spend the time with us and give us this important 826 00:59:24.109 --> 00:59:25.170 information. 827 00:59:25.170 --> 00:59:26.230 59:26 828 00:59:26.230 --> 00:59:31.130 And thank you all out there for the work that you're doing. 829 00:59:31.130 --> 00:59:32.289 59:33 830 00:59:32.289 --> 00:59:34.730 And I think we're done. 831 00:59:34.730 --> 00:59:36.059 **Nancy:** Thank you. 832 00:59:36.059 --> 00:59:37.849 That concludes our webinar. 833 00:59:37.849 --> 00:59:38.720 Thank you everybody.