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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: Okay.

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Panel Two is on the way up.

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Again, the hearing is being livecast and viewers
are encouraged to submit questions via Twitter

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to @US_IMLS.

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So this is our data panel with Larra Clark,
Miriam Jorgenson and John Horrigan.

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So this panel will explore what we know about
broadband connections and services in America's

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libraries, what are the metrics we need to
asses; whether sufficient connectivity is

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in place, what are the metrics that we can
be used to assure success.

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So Larra Clark, our first speaker is with
the American Library Association.

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She's the Director of the program on networks
in the ALA Office for Information Technology

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Policy, OITP.

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I have to say there's a lot of alphabet soup
today but we can have a little dictionary

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that we attach to the livecast of this so
everybody will know what we're talking about.

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Miriam Jorgensen who is the Research Director
for the Native Nations Institute at the University

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of Arizona as well as Research Director at
the Harvard Project on American Indian Economic

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Development, and finally, John Horrigan who
is well- known to our library community wearing

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many different hats, currently Independent
Communications and Technology Policy Consultant.

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So folks, would you talk a little bit and
then we'll have a chance to ask some questions.

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MS.

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CLARK: Thank you, Susan, and to all of the
IMLS Board members and staff for bringing

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us together to discuss the broadband enabled
future of libraries in our communities.

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It is an honor to share the stage this morning
with Chairman Wheeler and so many other distinguished

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speakers.

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The ALA is the oldest and largest library
association in the world serving more than

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57,000 members.

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And ALAOITP works to secure national policies
that ensure access to electronic resources

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as a means of upholding the public's right
to a free and open information society.

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And I'd like to wish you all a happy National
Library Week.

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This morning I will draw on more than 20 years
of research from folks like John Bertot who's

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in the audience with us, and the public libraries
and the internet survey, University of Washington's

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Opportunity for All study, the ALA Office
for Research and Statistics and, of course,

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IMLS data.

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I'd like to thank all of these researchers
and funders like ILMS and the Bill and Melinda

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Gates Foundation for their many contributions.

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First, a snapshot of public libraries.

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There are more 16,400 public library buildings,
more than the number of McDonald's in the

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United States which is always a good way to
think about the numbers and what they can

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mean in our communities.

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And it has more than 1.5 billion in- person
visits annually.

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Many of these visits include computer and
internet use, both wired and wireless.

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To support this use, we've seen ongoing improvement
in library internet speeds over the past decade.

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In 2004, for example, only 20 percent of libraries
reported speeds greater than 1.5 megabytes

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per second.

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By 2012, we had nearly flipped the statistic.

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At the other end of the spectrum, however,
fewer than 10 percent of our libraries reported

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speeds of 100 megabytes per second or faster.

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Preliminary findings from this year's survey
in 2014 show we've only added a few percentage

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points at this high end.

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And still roughly 10 percent of our rural
and small libraries are still at 1.5 megabytes

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per second.

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About half of our libraries don't have the
bandwidth that we enjoy at home and at the

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same time, they have an average of 10 computers
in our rural libraries and 41 in city libraries

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and far more than that in libraries like Washington,
D.C. or New York or L.A. or Chicago.

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We see nearly ubiquitous free public wifi
and an exploding number of patron-owned devices.

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I'm sure anybody here -- I know I've got my
laptop, my Smartphone, my iPad.

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We see this in our libraries as well.

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We're also seeing an increase in downloadable
streaming and interactive digital collections

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including things like from the National Archives,
of course, ranging from e-books to practice

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tests, instructional videos and then video
conferencing in states like Maine where people

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are connecting with legal advice and job interviews
and connecting with overseas military families.

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In fact, even as speeds improve, library staff
continue to report their bandwidth is inadequate.

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As Chris mentioned, a significant majority
of libraries -- actually, 66 percent of our

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libraries told us that they need more bandwidth
to meet their library needs today.

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And this is, again, data that will be released
later on this year.

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And 88 percent of state library agencies report
that a majority of their libraries need bandwidth

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upgrades t this year or next, so the E-Rate
is really, really important for libraries.

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So we're not standing still but too many libraries
are falling behind right now.

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This need for speed is driven by modern library
services and the unique libraries have as

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the one place for all.

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Nearly two-thirds of libraries report they
are the only provider of free access to computers

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and the internet.

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In one year, libraries posted more than 341
million computer uses which does not include

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the wireless access.

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Libraries leverage internet access to empower
library users and support education, employment

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and entrepreneurship.

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I think John will talk a little more about
public use, so I'll simply add a few examples

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from the Opportunity for All study.

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In one year, roughly 30 million people use
a library's computer or internet access for

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employment or career purposes.

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About 32.5 million use library technology
to achieve educational goals including taking

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online classes, completing schoolwork or researching
college programs.

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And 26 million people use library connections
to access government information, services

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and officials.

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Underlying many of these uses is the need
for many people to increase their digital

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literacy skills.

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Nearly all libraries provide formal or informal
assistance learning everything from setting

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up an email address to uploading job applications
to using new e-book readers and tablets, also

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called "tech petting zoos."

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So we have a lot of data to understand the
library technology landscape but we also have

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gaps.

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We still don't know the number of people that
are using library wifi for instance at the

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state or national level -- we're just beginning
to fill that gap -- or about the quality of

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the access they experience.

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We're starting to do bandwidth gaps now through
the digital inclusion survey so we'll have

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a better grasp on this probably later on this
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We also lack national information on remote
use of library resources including library

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website visits, time spent online and with
what types of library resources.

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But perhaps most glaringly today, we have
a wealth of data with USAC that remains largely

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locked away from us.

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I'm thrilled that IMLS has begun to drill
down into this rich vein but we really need

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it to be publicly available and the ALA continues
to call for more data transparency including

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Block 4 of the E-Rate information.

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In closing, though, I'd like to say that data
is useful as a rearview mirror but not a crystal

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ball.

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In a focus group five years ago, five years
ago, an Indiana librarian put it this way.

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"At one time we would have said a T1 line
was just the world but it changes too fast.

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This was in the course of two years.

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We went from one T1 to two T1s to three T1s
to now 15 megabytes of fiber.

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Unfortunately, more than half of libraries
haven't caught up with her.

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We hear from today's gigabyte libraries that
abundant bandwidth can be a mighty library

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service that enables robust, simultaneous
use of recording studies and 3D modeling camps,

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new community partnerships and co- working
spaces like here at D.C.

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Public, Telehealth, access to electronic health
records and global connections.

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Bandwidth should not limit what's possible
through our libraries.

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We need to bring more gigabyte libraries to
our communities.

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Thank you very much.

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(Applause)
DR.

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JORGENSEN: Larra is a lot taller than I am.

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Director Hildreth, distinguished members of
the panel and also Chairman Wheeler and Mr.

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Power, thank you for convening this panel
and also for your opening remarks.

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As Susan told you, my name is Miriam Jorgensen
and I'm Research Director at the Native Nations

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Institute at the University of Arizona and
also the Harvard Project on American Indian

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Economic Development.

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At the Harvard Project and Native Nations
Institute, I work to understand the conditions

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that lead to better economic and wellbeing
outcomes for American Indians and Alaska natives

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living in their homelands.

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These are critical questions.

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Reservation-based American Indians and Alaska
natives remain some of the poorest people

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in the United States.

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Recent research by Harvard Project affiliated
economists Randall Akee and Jonathan Taylor

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reminds us that even in 2010, per capita incomes
for American Indians living on reservations

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remained less than half of the U.S. average.

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They're below the per capita incomes of Hispanics,
African Americans and Asian Americans by a

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very wide margin.

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There are over 560 federally recognized American
Indian and Alaska native nations in the United

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States, more than 300 in the lower 48 states
and more than 200 in Alaska.

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Finding ways to make progress against these
socioeconomic shortfalls is vital for the

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many people living in these communities who
would like to return to these communities

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and even for the many non-native United States
citizens who live near American Indian and

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Alaska native lands.

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It is with this background that I come to
my work with the Association of Tribal Archives

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Libraries and Museums, also known as ATAM.

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It's a non-profit native-led organization
founded in 2010 with support from IMLS -- thank

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you very much for that -- that provides culturally
relevant training and services to the nation's

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519 tribal archives libraries and museums.

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My work with ATAM has largely involved survey
and statistical data analysis.

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Most recently, I've partnered with ATAM staff
and an ATAM board member, Traci Morris, who's

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an expert in tribal digital media, to conduct
a study which we have called "Digital Inclusion

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in Indian Country: The Role of Tribal Libraries."

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The findings from this study will be released
in several weeks but I'd like to share six

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preliminary findings as I believe they are
important to the discussion today and because

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they ultimately speak to the possibility for
changed life outcomes for citizens of American

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Indian and Alaska native nations.

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First, tribal libraries are less able to offer
internet access than our non-native public

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libraries.

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Only 88 percent of tribal libraries offer
internet access as compared to between 95

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to 99 percent depending on the statistics
you refer to of non-tribal public libraries.

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Additionally, nearly 40 percent of tribal
libraries rate the acquisition of more public

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access computers as extremely important, the
highest rating that they could give it.

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Second, tribal libraries are key points of
internet access for reservation residents.

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Forty- three percent of tribal libraries that
offer public access are the only source of

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free public computer and internet access in
their communities, and two-thirds of tribal

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libraries are in communities where no more
than 30 percent of homes have any internet

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access.

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In fact, many have no internet access at all.

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Third, a significant fraction of tribal libraries
with access do not have very good access and

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as Larra has pointed out, that's critically
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Of 100 tribal libraries that reported speed
of their internet connection, fully one- third

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cannot offer connection speeds greater than
3 megabytes per second which is bare minimum

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for operating many web-based applications
that improve human capital and offer connections

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to the broader economy.

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Fourth, the E-Rate Program could make a difference
but it's vastly underutilized by tribal libraries.

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An earlier study I did for ATAM in 2011 found
that at most, 15 percent of reporting tribal

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libraries received E-Rate discounts.

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By comparison, data released just yesterday
by IMLS suggests that since 2000, 90 percent

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of non-tribal public libraries have benefitted
from E-Rate.

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Data from our survey this year points out
that only 17 percent of tribal libraries have

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even applied for E-Rate.

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This leads to my fifth point.

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Confusion over eligibility and a general lack
of awareness limits tribal libraries access

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to E-Rate.

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Twenty- eight percent of reporting libraries
indicated that they were unsure if their library

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was eligible for E- Rate and another 50 percent
said that they'd never even heard of the program.

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These findings are consistent with the fact
that information about E-Rate has never been

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disseminated specifically to the tribal library
community.

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Sixth, and circling back to the points that
I made at the outset, internet access at tribal

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libraries supports community prosperity and
wellbeing.

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Tribal libraries do not simply offer public
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They provide training that helps patrons make
use of the possibilities technology offers.

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Half of tribal libraries report providing
training in general internet and computer

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use.

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Forty percent provide training in how to access
government information such as Social Security,

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Medicare and income tax data.

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Another 40 percent offer training on how to
find job-related information.

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Thirty-five percent offer training and access
to health-related information.

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A tribal librarian from the Southwest summarizes
the ideas of my testimony well.

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He said, "(Inaudible), social services resources
and college online homework.

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The computers allow them to access information
that will improve their lives, knowledge not

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readily available to them because they do
not have technology at home.

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Most connect to the internet by a cell phone
and hang around our library during off hours

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to access wifi.

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Our computers are busy all day from open to
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It is beautiful to see our tribal people learning
that way but it's sad that we do not have

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more than six computers and that they do not
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Our statistics reflect the need for more stations
for our population base."

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And this is a shout-out to Chris.

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He also added, "If you see anyone form the
Gates Foundation, please let them know."

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(Laughter) DR.

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JORGENSEN: In conclusion, I'll note that tribal
libraries are culture bearers for their nations

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collecting and making available key materials
about language, history and material culture.

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At the same time, tribal libraries are often
the only place in native communities where

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tribal members can access social services,
jobs, banking and travel information and stay

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in touch with distant friends and family.

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The access that tribal libraries provide makes
tribal people's lives better every day.

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They're at once part of the past and part
of the future of native nations.

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I commend the Institute for Museum and Library
Services for its interest in Indian Country

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and for its support of ATAM.

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I am hopeful that these forthcoming data point
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access in tribal communities through their
tribal library system.

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Thank you for your invitation to testify and
I welcome any questions that you might have.

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(Applause)
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for you later, Miriam.

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And IMLS is totally behind you working to
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HORRIGAN: Thank you very much, Susan, and
let me first thank IMLS for inviting me to

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participate in today's hearing.

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It's wonderful to be here and see so many
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Let me begin by saying that libraries fill
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and more goods and services depend on the
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I want to touch on them today in making the
case that investments and additional bandwidth

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in libraries are critically important to helping
all Americans have a chance to translate digital

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abundance into tools that can open doors to
connectivity, and I'm going to do it with

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a bunch of data points.

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First, libraries serve a critical role in
providing a place where people can improve

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their level of digital skills and the need
to improve people's digital skills is important

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and I think it's often overlooked in today's
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Our digital culture tends to assume that once
early adopting elites get the latest technology

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then everybody follows and immediately gets
it; yet there's amble evidence that there

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is wide variation in the level of digital
skills in the general population.

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Recent research I've done that I'm going to
be releasing in a few weeks, so you get to

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hear it first, finds that based on a 2013
survey that there is significant variation

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in the digital skills even among people who
have all the digital tools that we take for

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granted today.

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Today, 80 percent of Americans have advanced
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have broadband at home or they have a Smartphone.

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Within this group of highly wired people,
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of digital skills.

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That's 34 million Americans.

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And low levels of digital skills tracks closely
with low levels of online activity, particularly

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in consequential areas such as looking for
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For instance, among those with low digital
skills, just 10 percent use the internet during

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their most recent job search.

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For those with high levels of digital skills,
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recent job search.

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Taking another example among those with low
digital skills, just two percent say they

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have ever taken a class on line.

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Among those with high levels of digital skills,
26 percent had taken a class online, a huge

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These differences in online use are important
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in society that everyone is connected at home
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Recent research I've done on the Comcast Internet
Essentials program which serves low income

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families with school-age children who get
free or reduced prices shows this.

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When asked, these set of new internet users
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When asked, 83 percent of those respondents
said that their children's school expected

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that they internet access at home; 65 percent
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banks expected that they have broadband at
home; and 53 percent said that their health

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insurance companies expected that they have
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So there are two things going on; one, more
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online at home and at the same time, many
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skills.

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This means we need to begin to look at digital
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Stakeholders often view digital skills as
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people on the other side of the digital divide.

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But as I've shown, many people, about one-fifth
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low levels of digital skills.

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This means they lack digital readiness which
I think is the term that captures the scope

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of the challenge we have in ensuring that
all segments of society are ready for next

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generation information and communications
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This leads to my second point for libraries;
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forces we bring to bear to bolster digital
readiness for the entire population.

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Libraries are both access points for those
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resources for people with service.

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We know, according to the Pew Research Center,
that about 30 percent of Americans do not

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have broadband at home.

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That's a 2013 figure and that translates into
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But about half of those people are internet
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They just don't have high speed service at
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This creates the need for third places for
online access, not home, not work, but a place

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where people can use the internet.

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Libraries clearly fill that third place through
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for those without access and for many who
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But they do more as they also help people
negotiate a complex and quickly changing information

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environment.

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Here are some data points from the Pew Research
Center to help eliminate this.

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Thirty- five percent of Americans in 2012
said that they had accessed the internet at

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a library for free.

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This is the same figure, 35 percent, that
we found in a survey I conducted in 2009 for

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the National Broadband Plan which showed that
at that time, 35 percent of Americans had

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used the internet at a library for free.

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Forty-four percent of American adults have
used a public library website, 30 percent

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within the last year, and 77 percent of Americans
say that free access to computers and the

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internet is a very important service for libraries
to provide.

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And Americans expect more from libraries as
technology changes in a digital age.

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Again, according to the Pew Research Center,
63 percent of Americans over the age of 16

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say they are likely to use mobile apps that
libraries may provide to access programs and

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services at the library; 65 percent of library
patrons say they would like to have a "tech

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petting zoo" to try new technology; and 60
percent would like to have a digital media

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lab to help them digitize personal material.

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In conclusion, let me point out the temptation
to think that we've lived through most of

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the internet revolution; yet we've only lived
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The advent of the internet of things raises
the stakes and changes the stakes as the internet's

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usefulness will expand in unforeseen ways.

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This will challenge many of us, many of us
who are highly wired to keep up with the necessary

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knowledge to troubleshoot gadgets and understand
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That means as a society, we will need to provide
additional educational resources to learn

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what these new services are all about.

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This leads to three implications I want to
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One, digital readiness is the next great social
policy challenge for those interested in equity

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in the internet.

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Two, libraries and librarians will be on the
front lines in helping American's negotiate

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a world where digital applications matter
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And finally, libraries will have more demands
placed on them in time which makes the case

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for them to have additional bandwidth very
compelling.

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Thank you very much.

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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: Okay.

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We have some questions for our panel.

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I don't know if we have any audience questions,
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readiness."

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We have been struggling with that term for
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and literacy doesn't - - just people think
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That is just the term of the day, "digital
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So thank you, John.

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Carla, did you have a question?

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MEMBER HAYDEN: Back in it again.

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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: This is -- then we're going
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So, okay, go ahead.

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MEMBER HAYDEN: However, and especially Larra
and Don, what are some of the changes that

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libraries face in terms of collecting better
data and providing the things that you need

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to make a case?

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CLARK: Well, I think there are a few challenges.

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One is just library staff time.

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A lot of our libraries -- I mean I think everybody
feels that strain if you will -- but many

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of our libraries may only have a few staff
people and so the data collection piece can

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be tricky.

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Gathering some of the digital statistics also
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You know, where do you collect the data, how
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really important.

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And there was a third thing that I'm just
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maybe I'll --
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fatigue?

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CLARK: Well, survey fatigue is always an issue
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of my third thing.

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HORRIGAN: I'll just start with methodology
and go to intentional research questions frames

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to assess outcomes from library access at
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And that's not something librarians are probably
well-suited to do so I think it re-creates

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the need for funding for university researchers
to get in there and really be on the ground

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and assessing outcomes because inevitably
-- having, you know, worked at the FCC on

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the Broadband plan, you get questions from
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And I think we have to be very intentional
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CLARK: What I was going to say -- the third
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in the school environment, for instance, is
that our community comes in and out of the

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libraries, that, you know, we have these spikes
in access and we have a strong commitment

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to privacy.

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And so folks come in and out of and use our
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to those outcomes can be much more challenging
in the library environment as opposed to,

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you know, having a steady population that
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So I think that's another challenge for really
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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: So I know our Board member,
Charles Benton, is going to pose a question

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for Miriam but I just wanted to acknowledge
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also was formerly on the National Commission
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to digital access.

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And we know he's a great champion.

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He's out there all the time.

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We're so happy he could be with us today and
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in this area.

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So, Charles, question.

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MEMBER BENTON: Thank you.

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I've got a script here.

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Miriam, I was really interested in your point
that there is very little information about

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E- Rate that's being shared with tribal libraries.

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And I'm wondering how -- what your thoughts
are on funding for digital access, especially

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given the newest efforts to support Native
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the many resolutions of the first White House
conference on library and information services

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that were adopted and incorporated into LSTA
let alone the most recent New America -- New

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Media, Technology and Internet Use in Indian
Country and Benton Foundation's Native Networks

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and Telecommunication Information in Indian
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So there's a lot of research that's going
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What's to do about this?

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How do we get the ball moving in terms of
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JORGENSEN: So I really appreciate that question
because I think there are some simple things

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that can be done.

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I think that there have been some policy changes
that have unintentionally left Native people

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out or have made it more difficult for tribes
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So the shift from the Library Construction
Services Act to the Library Technology Services

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Act created some barriers and those are simple
shifts that can be removed which make it more

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difficult for tribal libraries to access those
funds and we can provide further information.

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I'll point to my colleague, Susan Feller,
who is the Executive Director of the Association

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of Tribal Archives, Libraries and Museums,
who's provided a brief to the FCC that talks

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about what some of those pretty simple policy
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One of the issues, for instance, is around
the fact that there are requirements that

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tribes interface with state library associations
but there are barriers to preventing state

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library associations to interface with tribes.

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So there are sort of requirements one direction
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is a simple policy sort of change the lever.

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I think that just getting information out
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easier to do and providing some support for
some of the funding applications is also a

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relatively simple policy change that can be
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Overall, something that would be potentially
a little bit more costly but I think would

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have long-term payoffs though is that I think
that within the overall structure of management

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of library agencies, whether or not that's
at IMLS or in another setting, there needs

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to be just more intentional focus on tribal
libraries, whether or not that's a tribal

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library agency that's dedicated to tribal
libraries or increased staff members who are

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going to be able to interface at that sort
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between tribal libraries.

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We've seen in other policy areas that that
kind of a specific focus, always interjecting

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that word "tribal" into the funding stream
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amount of difference.

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And it's great that we have now over a decade
of research to back that up.

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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: Thank you.

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Winston, did you have a question?

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MEMBER TABB: Yes, I do.

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I have a question for John.

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As people have more and more ways today to
go online, where do you libraries, particularly

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our digital resources, fit into the way that
people find the information that's most important

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to them?

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What is our niche in this information-rich
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HORRIGAN: I think a lot has to do with giving
people not just the resources to bolster their

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digital readiness but trust and curating content
so that people can trust that the information

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they're getting on how to use a new application
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A lot of these new applications require sharing
a lot of personal data and if you look at

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barriers to broadband adoption, particularly
among older people, the worries about the

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possible hazards of online access are huge
barriers, not only to adoption to sustained

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use.

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So libraries can fill a critical role in that
regard.

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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: John, just a quick follow-up
for you.

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Is there a correlation between those who,
in your research, have low levels of digital

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skills and the types of devices they use?

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DR.

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HORRIGAN: Yes.

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Well, certainly with low levels of digital
skills have lower levels of access assets.

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But just to reiterate a point I made during
my remarks, the one-fifth of people with low

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levels of digital skills have two big on-ramps
that are key today, broadband at home and

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Smartphones.

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So if you do control for all sorts of factors,
age, income, amount of online assets, this

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digital skills gap, this digital readiness
gap is real.

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DIRECTOR HILDRETH: Okay.

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Well, thank you very much.

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That's good information to have.

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So I'd like a round of applause for our second
panel and we'll bring up our third panel.

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Thank you.