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we don't have an actual break between
our two partnership sessions but as the

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table is getting reset and our next
group of people is coming up on stage I

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just I'm Terry Deveau from IMLS and
wanted to take a quick opportunity to

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tell you about another partnership that
IMLS has been working on over the last

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six months it's a joint funding
opportunity known as performance

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partnership pilots and it's designed to
better serve disconnected youth who are

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ages 14 through 24 I am ellesse together
with several other federal funding

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agencies including the Department of
Education the Department of Labor the

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Department of Health and Human Services
and the Corporation for National and

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Community Service issued the first
notice inviting applications last

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November for this initiative called p3
and we are now in the process of

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selecting up to ten groups of partners
who will work together to blend existing

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federal funds that they receive and to
better serve youth through educational

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and employment programs and for this
they are also receiving startup grants

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of up to 700 thousand dollars the idea
is to test whether additional

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flexibility in the federal programmatic
and reporting requirement realm can lead

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to better outcomes ultimately for this
target population p3 is intended to

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break down silos at the local state
tribal federal levels and to better

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integrate disparate services that you
heard talked about up here for this

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target audience and as we wait to
announce this year's pilots I can tell

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you that work is in progress for another
round of p3 and that we expect another

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notice inviting applications to come out
sometime in fall so if you are a library

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a library system a community group that
is somehow already working with local

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tribal state partners especially to
serve this population of disconnected

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youth then we encourage you to watch
for these p3 announcements and to

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consider applying with your partners and
our contact information for IMLS has

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been on the roster so feel free to get
in touch with any of us and we can tell

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you more now I will turn it over to our
panel thank you and thank you terry for

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talking about p3 it's an interesting way
to start off our panel on federal

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partnerships because it is a great
example of federal partnerships work

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across many agencies to coordinate a
notice in the federal register you have

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no idea how hard this but one of our
pants is going to talk to us about how

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hard that is and what it might mean on
the ground so good afternoon I'm Heidi

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silver piccola I'm from the US
Department of Education the office of

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career technical and adult education I
work in the division of adult education

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literacy and so the people that we serve
in my division are those families the

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adults and the families that we've been
talking about all day it's great to go

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in the afternoon after so many wonderful
examples of partnerships and innovative

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practices have already been shared to
give inspiration to to art talking

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points this afternoon adult education
last year served 1.7 million students

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about forty percent of them are adults
who are taking English classes and

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helping adults transition to meet their
high school equivalency requirement or

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to transition on to post-secondary
education training or workplace or

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advanced in their workplace and we're
proud to serve these students but we

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know that we are not meeting the need we
are so not meeting the need the OECD

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survey of adult skills that came out in
2013 estimates that there are 36 million

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adults with low literacy skills and 48
million with low numeracy skills so that

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gap between 1.7 and 36 million that's
pretty large we released a report in

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February called making skills everyone's
business a call to transform learning

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adult learning in the United States
large title

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and it lays out seven strategies for
bridging the gap between the 1.7 and the

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36 million need and however you slice
that need it's still a large number so

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partnerships alliances cooperative
ventures collective impact all of those

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kinds of types of work are the first
strategy that really underlies all the

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other strategies and making skills
everyone's business it's the key to

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stretching resources and bringing
learning too busy adults in ways it is

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convenient relevant contextualized and
challenging you know adults want to be

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challenged if they're going to put their
time into something so we've heard today

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about so many examples of how libraries
are the strategic partner for others to

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meet their goals and that's what this
panel is going to talk about as well

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where our title is called federal
partnerships but were not all federals

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on the panel and we're going to be
hearing from others perspectives of how

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they have used federal dollars and some
of the lessons they have learned in in

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preparation for my talk I thought of
some things that make a successful

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partnership and things that nurture
partnerships but these are ideas that

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have all come out already today number
one is you start with the personal just

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at the federal level is just the same as
at the state level is just the same as

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at the local level you have to reach out
you have to make personal relationships

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and you have to start building that
relationship of trust so that you can

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start sharing intentions pressures
deadlines more is talking about working

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with the White House let me tell you
about pressure and deadlines right and

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so if you can share that and understand
what your partner is working with you

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can sustain through the tough times of
getting your work to a line and to start

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to find areas of overlap where your work
becomes the way that your partner meets

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its mission right and vice versa then
that's the goal is that we're all

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meeting our missions and in many cases
as we've spoken about today our missions

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are this are very much the same and
that's the way it can be sustainable so

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and to sustain beyond the grant as we
talked about earlier such a great point

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so as our panelists speak I want to ask
them to share their innovative

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approaches that they've used so the
others in the field can replicate that

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like to hear about how federal
partnerships have filtered down to the

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state level to the local level and how
that has resulted in leverage leverage

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of extra dollars or leverage of extra
ways to serve the population and I'm

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especially interested in how federal
partnerships can be made visible at the

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local level do people coming in your
library understand that you're working

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with USCIS what are what those letters
mean do people understand that you're

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working with the Department of Education
and what our acronyms and our alphabet

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soup means do they understand you're
working with the Treasury or with us see

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IM tell me yard Dorothy CFPB the
Consumer Protection Bureau all of these

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federal initiatives get kind of washed
away as we make cute names and bring

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those names down to the local level but
does that really help it expose to the

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to your community members and do they
know how their federal dollars are

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working and how their state dollars are
working so with that I'm going to turn

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it over to my panelist and I'm joined
today by Steve reader who is a professor

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in the Department of Applied linguistics
at Portland State University and so much

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more we've been working with Steve for
many years very happily Jamie Marcus who

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is at the development manager at the
Wyoming State Library and a White House

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champion of change so i hope you talk to
us about that and denise dombek who's

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division chief at the of the workforce
investment employment and training

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administration region 6 in San Francisco
she's part of the US Department of Labor

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so all these long federal titles right
so Steve will start with you and I don't

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have a long federal title Thank You
Heidi and thank you all for this event

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thanks IMLS I think what I want to do is
talk very quickly about my experience

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working with federal partners on digital
literacy development in different ways

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over the years and then I want to try to
come back very quickly and talk about

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lessons I've seen people learning about
partnerships in that process so this all

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started a number of years ago when we
were fortunate enough in the literacy

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language and technology research group
to receive an IMLS nlg grant to develop

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a platform designed to be a tool for
partnerships to support learning and

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development and economically vulnerable
adults that was called learner web and I

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see that in retrospect as a seed for
partnership development because the key

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piece of learner web is that it has
roles to blend for both face-to-face

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support of adults as well as technology
support and it allows community partners

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to adjust that blend and the way it's
implemented and I'll come back to that

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so we developed that with partners
across the country and one of the things

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we found out trying to use it with
economically vulnerable adults you won't

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be surprised to hear this is it was very
difficult for many economically

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vulnerable adults to use technology many
of them lacked what we might call

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digital literacy abilities to work
comfortably with technology so as the

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Great Recession
started unfolding and there were more

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and more adults finding themselves in
economically vulnerable positions we

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applied for a Department of Commerce
grant called be top broadband technology

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opportunities program with a national
network of partners in six states each

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of whom had an array of their selected
local partners and we kind of were you

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know like an airplane we were traveling
together and load in loose configuration

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with an awful lot of moving parts and
unlike an airplane we weren't in

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entirely sure how we were going to do
this and the implementations in each

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state in each locale had to figure out
really how to do the work we gave them a

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tool that we had developed and some
content that we had developed and we

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were trying to help them learn how to
become digitally literate for whatever

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purposes they had work family support or
whatever and a very important

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characteristic of that project was the
fact that people were free in the space

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they were operating in to innovate and
to implement to fail and to be

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successful and learn over time how to do
that and that's a very important point I

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think that was very appropriate
fortunately the era funding allowed that

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type of grant to happen with lots of
variations in local implementation and

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overall from my perspective it was very
successful we trained over 800

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volunteers in 13,000 adult learners in
about a hundred and twenty computer labs

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each of which self-designed and they
looked very different and they use

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different community partners libraries
were were had different roles in those

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partnerships
minutes oh boy they range from a small

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Baptist Church in Treme the original
african-american community in New

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Orleans to a large one stop in
Minneapolis to a library literacy

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program in Richmond California and there
was just a wide range of flavors and

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outcomes IMLS awarded us a research
grant that's nearing conclusion now that

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looked at the very large set of system
data and observations on the ground

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about both how volunteer tutors and
learners proceeded and became digitally

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literate in these different contexts and
I also wanted to mention when I'm

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talking about digital literacy something
Heidi mentioned a moment ago which was

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the PIAA grant that was that's right in
the center of adult education policy

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development as Heidi was saying but that
was unfortunately created in a in a

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vacuum of effective partnerships from my
perspective because there's no

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information in that national and
international database about little

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library users or library use wouldn't
that be nice to have had a question and

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I think it wasn't there probably because
the right partnerships weren't in place

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at the time that that instrument was
developed so we applied for a research

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grant jointly with Multnomah County
Library in Portland that IMLS awarded

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last fall to actually go out and look at
outreach populations for that Multnomah

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County Library is trying to reach use
the piac assessment tool to see what the

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digital literacy and problem-solving
skills of the population are and to try

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to map those on to the skills that
people need

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be able to use information technology
offered by the library so that's a way

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of partnership is going to try to fill
fill a vacuum that's I think very

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important so very quickly the lessons
learned from all of this and I'm sorry I

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had to go through it so quickly our
innovation really needs to have an

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appropriate operational space to develop

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collaboration and partnership mean
different things to different types of

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organizations we saw this over and over
again they mean different things to to

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library culture than they do to
employment and training culture than

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they do to adult education culture or
social service agency culture and it's

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really important to keep those
differences in mind and work with them

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as constructive opportunities and
finally it's really important in our

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work to position everyone all the
partners as learners it's not just the

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the end user who needs to learn in order
for this work to be successful everyone

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needs to be positioned as a learner
particularly with respect to the new

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technology is being used I'll stop there
Thank you Thank You Heidi thank you

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everyone my name is Jamie Marcus and I'm
the library development manager and

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Library Services and Technology Act
coordinator for the great state of

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Wyoming I've been involved in state
libraries and state federal partnerships

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for over ten years now in fact this last
October I was named a champion of change

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by the White House for promoting
libraries as essential partners in the

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Affordable Care Act outreach and but
today I really want to speak on the role

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that state libraries can have really as
connectors for these federal

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partnerships state libraries are in a
unique role in terms of library

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partnership opportune
these on one hand we are the state level

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partners for many organizations be top
IMLS grants to States Laura Bush 21st

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century grants national leadership
grants and even a few of the grants on

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the museum side of I MLS's portfolio you
will see libraries and state libraries

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as as key stakeholders and partners in
those opportunities and don't even get

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me started on irae some of those
wonderful Bill and Melinda Gates grants

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that are still trickling there's money
available every now and then MacArthur

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grant and any of the other grants that
we've heard about this morning and the

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Department of Education and other
partner organizations that are here

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state libraries often form one of those
first-line partnerships for those

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organizations however i would say that
state libraries strongest role can be

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and it really is for many state
libraries is that whenever we act as

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informed intermediaries for these
federal and local partnership

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opportunities I say informed
intermediaries because State Library

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agencies can both promote federal
projects to libraries in our area but

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then we can also promote the use of
libraries to those federal projects and

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those other entities that are out there
seeking to do activities seeking to

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disseminate information within our areas
when state libraries are generally the

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experts on the libraries in their states
for example here a couple years ago when

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the Institute of Museum and Library
Services put a call out to state

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libraries to do whatever it is we could
do to help push information out to the

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public about the rollout of the
Affordable Care Act we in Wyoming did a

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couple of different things first and
foremost we did some training for

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libraries in our state to train the
library staff so that they kind of had

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the broad strokes and kind of knew that
the Affordable Care Act was rolling out

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and what kinds of questions they would
receive from the public what sorts of

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tools websites references that they
could use to answer those questions we

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also put together a couple handouts that
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those patrons who had those questions
and in that sense we helped the lie

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very become the partner and do the
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Wyoming and I know across the u.s. did
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just depending on their locale the
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in their state and area but state
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activities and then on the other hand I
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Human Services region 8 which is out of
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teleconferences and other trainings with
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putting out information on the
Affordable Care Act and I went to every

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one of their teleconferences even though
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providers insurance sellers and then I
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other in person meetings AARP for health
care workers and then whenever grants

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were finally awarded and there were
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sure to talk to them as much as possible
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information and that is remember
libraries and remember that public

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libraries exist in nearly every location
of any size or there are bookmobiles or

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branches we are everywhere most public
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meeting room they have some sort of
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available to anybody especially these
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that free Wi-Fi is a godsend and i also
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fact that i think we all know and
remember that for the most part

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libraries are thought of as safe places
to go to get your information especially

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for something as interesting as the
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organizations then hopefully and i know
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remember to use the library and start
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in the libraries community rooms and
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libraries and in many cases this was not
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much as we all would have loved it to be
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minds so and i would say that Wyoming is
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that there are
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room state librarians and a few other
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staff in every state library whose sole
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for libraries in their state and to be
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libraries to projects that would make
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if you want to have some fun go ahead
and ask any of these Chiefs about any

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one of your your your projects one of
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that can tell you at least two library
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partner in that project and they can
tell you to who would say they would

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love to be a partner but will never do
anything about because state libraries

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we know our libraries and without a
doubt I can tell you right now in

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Wyoming for any of these projects who
your best partners are going to be and

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in fact I can probably come pretty close
by telling you exactly which activities

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they're going to participate in and how
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from partnering with them and and that
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closing I just want to remind everybody
that state libraries really are

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excellent connectors for partnership
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connect libraries to the project and the
project to the library Thank you Thank

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You Jamie this is why you need to know
the people right because the people know

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what's going on so that's a great
example of my first point and right is

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make the personal connection with your
state librarian so you know where you're

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gonna get a good toehold Thank You
Denise looking forward to hearing from

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you is this on it should be okay until I
don't do use mikes a lot as Heidi

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indicated my name is Denise Tom back I'm
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of the employment and training
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Labor is that my six minutes okay um I
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little bit or talk to you a little bit
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workforce innovation and opportunity act
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up with
good acronym with Wi a so we've we've

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just been calling it the opportunity act
in the office but talk a little bit

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about how the library system can be a
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partner and maybe that you weren't aware
or you weren't involved under the old

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law the workforce investment act so
we'll looked and it was expanded under

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the opportunity act so what I'd like to
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little bit the employment and training
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don't know we receive the money from
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allocated from Congress for the formula
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the states receive the states and
territories receive for employment and

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training services and activities states
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formula down to the local area so that's
how it gets down to your community from

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Congress on down even the workforce
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that was only supposed to last for a
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it from of ten it also had the
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seamless service and partners through
the one-stop system is everyone does

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anyone have association with the
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maybe when I'm done you'll you'll look
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develop a little better partnership and
this did include the libraries but it

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wasn't really enforced and it just kind
of SAT there and went on the nice thing

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with the opportunity act is it
substantially changes the focus from the

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the workforce investment act it requires
a lot more partnership and it builds on

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the partnerships and it returns the
let's say the more control the more

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service design what's needed to the
communities to the local areas things

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are not necessarily happening at the
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as they were under the Investment Act so
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little bit high level the opportunity
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to the local area and then where I'm
hoping when I'm done that you'll see the

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connection with the library system so
the opportunity act itself it it's

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focusing on the evolving nature of the
work force and the economic needs it's

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moving as I said that responsibility to
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have their finger on the pulse of what's
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employers with the community at large it
replaces the limitations in training

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funding and service delivery design so
there isn't the the strict confines on

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what can be trained there aren't the
strict confines of what the funding is

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per program there's more flexibility in
moving the money around for where it's

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needed in a community and the service
delivery design is different there isn't

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where they must go look for a job and
then maybe they qualify for case

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management and then maybe they can get
to training the new law took that away

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if somebody walks in and they need
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it aligns workforce education and
economic development it responds to

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economic and labor market challenges
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and requires regional collaboration this
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down to the local area those that know
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what the law did now in in the way the
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each state has a State Workforce
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overseers they have oversight on the
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it's the local workforce development
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strategies and implementing securing the
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that's happening now at the ground level
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Board and just to give you a sense
California has 49 of them Nevada has to

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Alaska doesn't have a knee they just
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what Wyoming has bed 11 and I think
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varies in California step 52 we got them
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anyway when I talk about the local
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responsibilities they are to serve
business and seekers collaboratively

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increasing the opportunities for the
most in need so when I heard earlier

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today where it's those most in needs
that the library is reaching out to or

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that are coming into the library this is
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the literacy skills or the training that
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dollars it's also to asset assess the
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those with barriers for job training and
education so that they can secure that

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job they might be able to secure that
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little faster oh my goodness okay um the
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didn't think I read that much um ok so
I'm going to let's get down to where it

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gets down to you all ya know you're
hearing you've heard enough that they

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select the one-stop operator they're
looking at labor market information for

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skills training they're identifying
training providers which the library

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system can be a training provider
they're coordinating with educational

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providers and they have the flexibility
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those really fast but with those roles
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is how it would connect with the library
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system can be an eligible provider of
training it can be a one-stop partner

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now I'll tell you there's costs involved
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can also receive statewide funds
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there's a pot that the governor can
reserve it's called state why he likes

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to call it the governor's reserve but
it's actually statewide reserve you're

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also the library system is eligible for
those statewide funds so what we what

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I've seen and I kind of did a poll in
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in region six what still seems to be
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helping someone get on a computer to
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their resume helping them connect to a
workshop but what I'm seeing two in

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talking to some is that it's growing
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Idaho specifically has instituted they
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had received a gates grant and they're
working with the one stop for service

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delivery they just received a grant from
Microsoft and they're looking to do

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computer training and they will take on
the WIA participants so they will again

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be partnering with I'm sorry the
opportunity act participants for service

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delivery so what I strongly just want to
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vers what i really suggest is that you
find out where your local area is where

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your board is when they meet get to know
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your staff to the board each local area
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which has which will have all the
partners and activities in it as well as

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affiliate sites get to know them you'll
find out that there's there's ways for

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you to get money be a part of the entire
system and partner thank you

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so thank you panel we've had the federal
view down to the local view lessons

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learned looking forward to some
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partnerships and how they play out at
the local level hi there Miguel figured

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oh I'm from the American Library
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partnerships and I'm sorry to give this
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you and the the previous panel but
partnership initiating partnerships i

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think is really easy but increasingly as
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managing partnerships can sometimes be
really difficult so i was wondering if

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you all had thoughts about how managing
partnerships perhaps might be getting

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easier or how it might be getting more
complex especially as we move from

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national partnerships to local
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collective impact and other types of
models that are great but their

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execution can sometimes be a challenge I
think absolutely and collective impact

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is a whole approach that requires a lot
of setup and work and time to really

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align everybody's agenda so it's a great
question very fair question partnerships

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are just as much work at the federal
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I'm sure that's true at the state level
two so choose your partners wisely so

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that you can go the distance and really
meet your long-term goals with people

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invite people to come on and join those
long-term goals but i would say limit

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the number of the short-term projects
that you're doing that aren't all

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driving towards your long-term strategic
goals or you will spend a lot of time in

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partnership nurturing but i'll see what
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well Jamie do you want to take a crack
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the answer my answer for Wyoming library
directors is we have them call the State

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Library when they have questions about
potential partners and our honest answer

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is always to get them
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asking them to do and then what they can
agree to and if they can't agree to you

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know come to some really true
understanding than not to go through

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with whatever the project is and on the
other hand we tell them that they just

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have to hold fast so if they really want
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because it's really of the needs of the
community but they can't do steps four

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through eight then say you can do steps
one and two and then that's it and I'm

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sorry we can't help you collect the data
at the end but maybe in the end that'll

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have more impact than not doing the
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the observation that what what worked
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in be top work was having a common
metric but freedom to innovate to to

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implement the way they needed to and
that has something to do with the way in

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which funding is is offered and allowing
the contributions of different partners

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to be visible doesn't solve all the
problems but that that helped a lot well

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this might be not be really fair because
it's the law but but I can say that from

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the investment act to the opportunity
act what we've seen is that it's more

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open there's more partner buy-in and
each partner has this a and everyone's

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working together whether it's
regulations or its performance

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accountability how the money is going to
be spent everyone's at the table this

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time in the investment act there was
only one entity workforce at the table

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and and yet all these other people were
required but nobody was really at the

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table being allowed so I think what i
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that there's more openness and and true
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service design everything

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that question other other questions here
are on Twitter hi ho one alpha C

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Hartford Public Library I have a
question from Heidi Anthony some a lot

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of people are graduating with their high
school degrees and they're not ready to

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transition to college they're using
financial aid as you know for medial

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courses I think this is a wonderful area
where our libraries can fill a big gap

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and I wanted to hear from both of you if
there's any direct funding to support us

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with some kind of program to help with
the math reading and writing oh it's a

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good one I have an idea partial ability
today just it was just announced the

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guidance for the ability to benefit pell
grant money from the department of

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education is one thing that i can put on
the table from our department it was

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rescinded and after much successful
advocacy so thank you to all the

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advocates in the audience it was
restored partially to allow people who

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do not have a high school diploma to get
some bail money to help with early

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college courses if they show ability to
benefit so that guidance has just been

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released it's quite complicated guidance
but hopefully going forward it will be

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more straightforward in how that gets
released by community colleges and

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elsewhere to help students so they're
not burning through could I just make a

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postscript comment on that because
that's something I've been looking into

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it for that partially restored ability
to benefit criterion the the the

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training will have to be sort of an
on-ramp into a career pathway and so

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that's going to be require and hopefully
strengthen local partnership

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requirements so and the other thing I
wanted to add is unlike funds

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appropriated to we oh yeah which is what
in my shop we call

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new opportunity act yeah that just rolls
right off your tongue yeah that that the

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the Pell Grant funds are more they're
printed more like money okay it's not

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tied to a programmatic appropriation the
way many other programs are so the more

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people who can qualify for them the more
funding will be available to deliver the

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services to them so it's not a fixed pie
that you know if one one party gets more

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funds for to deliver services for
someone else is necessarily going to get

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less so it's actually centered in the
learner in the adult so in career

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pathways is a great place for us to talk
about this group of learners who need on

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ramps into education on ramps into
employment GC want to add about Career

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Pathways one if I heard you right to you
said that they were a high school

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graduate but still basic skills
deficient and and if once the final

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regulations come out for the opportunity
active that follows the workforce

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investment act that int that youth would
still be considered an out-of-school

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youth so still eligible for a lot of the
services partnering like if you do the

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Career Pathways with education you could
be partnering with the opportunity act

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for additional remedial services
supportive services all the the elements

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and I believe they're up to 15 elements
now of services and activities that are

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available to the youth and congress also
took a look and and said for the

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opportunity act required seventy percent
of the funds be spent on out-of-school

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youth so even though a high school
graduate if there's still basic skills

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deficient they're considered an
out-of-school youth under the new law

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correct if they were 24 and 364 days
you've got him big but then their adult

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dead students right and then but they
could still be Pell Grant eligible if

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they didn't have a high school diploma
and we're 25 or older it just would so

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correct right yep so there are some new
funding possibilities out there and I I

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think strong local you know
collaboration with a career pathway

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system would be really really beneficial
you know to access some of those

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opportunities even though I think all
the mechanisms aren't in place yet but

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there's a lot of federal guidance on
Career Pathways and a new tool k renewed

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toolkit is coming out later this summer
so you can watch for that that is a the

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three agencies department of a
department of labor and department of

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HHS Health and Human Services put that
together I have time for one more

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I don't know that my Susan McVeigh State
Library in Oklahoma I don't know that

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much about the investment act but I know
that the opportunity act has also

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included adult learners or adult
literacy organizations as eligible

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applicants is that something Denise that
your agency and Heidi's agency are

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working on together or what shape is
that taking will they simply be an

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eligible in that applicant and apply to
their local workforce is that the way it

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clicking yeah the responsibility in that
role is back to the local workforce

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development areas so absolutely to be a
provider you would be going through them

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and there's two ways to be a provider
one you can be an eligible training

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provider to the department of labor
system or an eligible provider of adult

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education and libraries have always been
so we are hoping that you know that is

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renewed energy and also housing
authorities have always been but we've

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lost a lot so time to renew that energy
around partnering with housing

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authorities and libraries and I think
we're at time all right well thank you

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again panel