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This is the only option in my mind in my whole
life.

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It's not that like, yesterday I did an interview
and somebody said like but it’s because

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nobody else can put the record out and it
was just obvious.

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And I think that it turned as an archive,
I suppose it could have turned over to some

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other entity, but that entity how they would
go about doing it the way they were curated,

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the way they were exploited.

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I think it was a concern for us in terms of,
no we didn’t in like, our work being used

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as content for somebody else's like their
business.

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And I think that there are people who certainly
were interested in the idea it was like, "We’ll

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buy your collection" and they were offered
quite a bit of money, they offered us quite

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a bit money but then we would have to contend
with how they are generating their revenue

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as it is usually through advertising, right,
almost always.

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Now I was asked to do an interview for an
online web show thing.

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And they want me to give a tour of discord
house and show them around and the guy was

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a fan legitimate, and I thought ok, yeah its
fine.

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But at some point in the negotiation, I said
to Mike, "What is the deal of this site?

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Who is paying for this site?"

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And finally it came out that it was a car
company.

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It was a car company basically funding the
whole thing and the actual image, like the

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window as you watch is in a frame of an ad,
like you're watching, it's like, you know,

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almost like it would be like in the windshield
of the car something and at the beginning

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of every episode the presenters have to drive
up in that car.

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And I thought it is so interesting to me,
I never thought about this in term to the

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web that, that frame can always change.

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So no matter what you do, no matter what you
do, whatever you present it can instantly

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be an advertisement or it can help draw traffic
to anybody and this is really vexing, it’s

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vexing for me.

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You think about historically for the magazines,
like you might have been in a -- I guess your

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work might have been part of some particular
– be locked to that one thing forever but

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now it could be anything and I think in our
case, I feel like Gods ourselves and that

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what we know.

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We know that it's like, it’s done the way
we want to do it, it won’t be exploited

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and must be what we wanted which was to make
the stuff available.

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I have no idea.

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I don't know.

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I mean I think it's worth mentioning like
I didn't, I made an electric circuit.

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I thing I'm getting gas money for this.

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It's not like I am like have a presentation
that I'm being paid for ever.

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A friend of mine was associated with this
event he said, you know what, "I think this

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is a really interesting project you're working
on would you want to come and answer some

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questions.

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I said if the people have some question, I
will answer them but I have no presentation,

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you know, I have no presentation at all.

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I like to meet people; I'm interested in talking
with them.

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I think you’ve probably seen me to have
three right here.

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I do think about a lot of things and I'm curious
about them.

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And I'm very happy if people are curious about
it.

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I think to people if it’s of interest, I'm
totally happy to discuss this approach.

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I think then from my point of view, like,
getting these and making these materials available,

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like we could have gone, like a, through sort
of a profit model like in terms of like just

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some other company that’s marketing or we
could have gone through an academic model

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or you know, which has known problems.

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I mean, I found a lot about collections and
how you could access to these collections

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and if, you know, academic collections, you
can't get to them unless you're a part of

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that world and I feel like with us we just
want to make it, it was just there and people

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can if they're if they are not that’s fine
too.
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