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Institute of Museum and Library Services 2020
Grants to States All States Conference May

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12, 2020 Virtual
Proceedings by: CASET Associates, Ltd. caset@caset.net

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P R O C E E D I N G S (1:00 p.m.)
Agenda Item: Welcome and IMLS Updates: COVID-19

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and the CARES Act
MS. DEVOE: Welcome, everybody. This is Teri,

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from IMLS, and Grants to States specifically.
We are so glad you're here, and we're keeping

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the chat box open a few minutes. If you're
just arriving, tell us who you are, where

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you're from, and maybe something about your
favorite superhero. We are going to have a

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superhero theme this conference.
We're going to do just a few housekeeping

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announcements and then we'll dive right into
our topic of the hour, because we may well

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take the full hour.
Just a few announcements. We do have all the

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attendees' microphones muted during the virtual
conference, so you'll only be hearing from

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the presenters. We will have these chat sessions
open where you can see each other's comments.

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It's open right now, and we're going to have
them open during the breaks. But then they're

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going to change to just the Q&A box, which
will allow you to submit questions to us,

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and we'll see them on the presentation side,
but you won't see each other's comments. So

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that will function just a little bit differently
once we get started with just the Q&A.

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We're typically going to take questions at
the end of the session. That doesn't mean

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you can't type in questions throughout a session.
Type in any questions as you have them. It's

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just that we'll pool them and answer them
in one block towards the end. If you're having

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any technical assistance issues, you can also
type into that Q&A box. We've got folks standing

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by to help you with that. We're going to have
some of these sessions using polls, so we

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look forward to your participation in those.
And all of our sessions are going to be recorded.

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So we'll send out details about how to access
those once the conference is over. For this

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presentation, we will actually have a couple
of blocks to pause and take questions, because

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we've got a couple of chunks of content that
we want to go through, and make sure everybody's

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clear about that.
To welcome you officially, here's the Grants

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to States team. We can't be together in person
this year, and we're admittedly a little sad

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about that, but we're all working from home,
and we are so glad that you are being flexible

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with us and joining us through this virtual
format. From left to right on the slide, it's

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myself, Teri, the associate director for Grants
to States. We've got Madison Bolls, one of

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our program officers; Deirdre Gonsalves, our
program specialist; Dennis Nangle, a program

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officer who is at this moment on paternity
leave. Congrats to Dennis and his new baby

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boy. And then we've got Michele, who is our
third program officer for the Grants to States

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program. And that is our team.
We hope you are all safe and well out there,

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wherever you're tuning in from, and because
of the heroic efforts that you have been through

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over these past few months, we have designated
our theme for the year as superheroes. We

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did a little icebreaker at the beginning around
that. You won't hear a whole lot about it

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in this particular session, but we will have
some superhero themes emerging later on.

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This session we are going to sort of do a
little bit of IMLS updating because a lot

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has happened since we met last year in April,
for those of you who were with us in person

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in Denver. We're going to talk through some
of the COVID-19 response flexibilities that

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you have as folks administering grants. And
we're going to talk about those new and exciting

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CARES Act funds, which is unprecedented in
the history of our program. So it's very exciting.

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We're all learning and going through this
together, so we want to be sure to cover these

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important topics right at the outset.
Just to give you a recap of the past year,

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a lot has happened since April. We got a new
deputy director for library services, Cyndee

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Landrum, over the summer. Shortly after she
arrived, the discretionary program issued

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our first Accelerating Promising Practices
awards. These are designated for small and

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rural libraries, and we know that many of
you reach small and rural libraries, but it

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was new and exciting for IMLS to do this grant
program as a direct grant program through

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our discretionary team. And we thank you for
all the work that you did to help amplify

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and coach small libraries to the finish line,
and we saw that those efforts really paid

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off, so thank you.
In October, we rolled out a whole new system,

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our electronic grants management system, and
all of you came on board with us for that.

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We launched the system, had a rollout, had
a webinar, and it has been going really well,

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which is thanks to you, learning this system
and navigating it with us for the first time.

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But in January we got a new director, Crosby
Kemper. As many of you know, the IMLS directorship

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is a four-year term with, now, a one-year
sort of option year, and our director rotates

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back and forth between libraries and museums.
So Crosby comes to us from Kansas City Public

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Library, and represents the library side of
the house for the next four years. He of course

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represents museums, too, and he's learning
and has been thrust into really exciting stuff,

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ever since January, as you can imagine.
Also in January, we issued our first Grants

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to States award, under the new Museum and
Library Services Act. This had been an act

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and been authorized since the year prior,
but it wasn't until this year that we were

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able to implement it, because we got a higher
program budget, which meant that we could

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kick off giving the states a higher base,
and we also rolled in for the first time three

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freely-associated states into the program.
This was Palau and Marshall Islands and Micronesia.

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They had been part of our Pacific competitive
award program up until this point, but now

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for the first time they're getting their own
allotment. So it's a really exciting moment

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for the program.
In February, we were working with our SPR

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vendor, and migrated the system to the cloud,
which probably affected you very little, but

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on the back end it was one of the last remaining
systems that we had in a server onsite. So

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for the agency it weas a really big milestone,
and it went pretty darn seamless. So we're

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excited about that.
And then we started responding to coronavirus,

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and by April of this year, we had sent out
to you $30 million in CARES Act funds through

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the Grants to States program, and we're going
to talk more about that. But it has been quite

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a year, and you should all be very proud of
yourselves.

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The one thing we would have touched on probably
in more detail if we'd had a traditional conference

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and more time, but we just wanted to touch
on it here, is that in the space of a year

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we've gone from just kind of talking about
our eGMS system in the abstract to all of

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us fully using it. This is a system where
you can manage awards, we can see award details,

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you can request payments instead of sending
us separate emails, you can see the progress

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of those payments. It's a place where you
can send official grant communications to

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us, and it gets appended to the grant award,
and it's there for perpetuity, and it's a

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place where you can access reporting schedules,
and so much more. We thought it was worth

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revisiting one guidance area that is pretty
specific to Grants to States and eGMS.

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Basically, when do you use eGMS to communicate
with us, and when is it better to just use

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something like email? For us, as we think
about eGMS, it's really the record level activity

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for the program. It's the kind of thing that
we used to print out on paper and put in our

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paper files. For us, that is things like equipment
requests, when you come to us for prior approval,

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when you want to buy something for over $5,000
for one single item. It's when you submit

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your certifications for the year, when you
submit to us a maintenance of effort waiver

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request. As I said on the last slide, eGMS
is now where you make your payment requests.

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If you have any other official requests that
require IMLS approval, we want you to be using

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eGMS Reach. It's not the end of the world
if you don't. We can always append our email

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chain of conversation with you to eGMS on
our side, but it's just kind of a helpful

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concept to think about, that this is a record-level
correspondence.

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Email is perfectly fine for a lot of other
things. If you have allowable costs questions

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that you want to bounce off of us, we're happy
to answer those through email. If you're having

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SPR issues or want to send us general feedback.
If you need to make contact changes to the

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personnel that we send messages to occasionally,
there's a designated form for that in the

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state program report, so continue to make
those changes in the SPR. We don't want you

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to have to redundantly make those changes
in eGMS and SPR. So just make them in the

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SPR, and then notify us through email, because
unfortunately we don't get push notifications

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that those changes have happened.
We still have a designated email box for quarterly

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grant accrual reports, and that's here on
the slide, the LSTA-QRTA email address. And

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we still want your Grants to States report
to go through the SPR. There is a module in

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eGMS for reports, and we know that it can
be confusing, but for us, we want you to submit

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through the SPR only, and then we do a little
back-end work to reflect things in eGMS for

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you. For your purposes, reports still go through
the SPR. So we thought this slide might help

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clear up when to use eGMS and when to just
use other channels.

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Now we're going to get into the first major
topic that we want to cover here, and once

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we're done with this topic we'll pause for
questions. COVID-19 has had an understandable

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impact on how we all do business. It's affecting
our conference right now. It has also affected

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how you all carry out existing grant awards.
So we are going to revisit some of the flexibilities

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that are available to you as passthrough organizations.
You have a very specific type of grant that

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is different from a lot of other IMLS grants.
So we just want to differentiate what IMLS

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as an agency is telling grantees and what
you need to pay attention to as Grants to

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States grantees.
A lot of this is going to recap some of the

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information we've already sent you. Most specifically,
probably most pertinently, the early April

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message that came from me called "COVID-19
guidance for your open Grants to States awards".

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That is the specific Grants to States lens
on all of the COVID-19 flexibility stuff.

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If, for some reason, you did not get this
message, it would have gone to your chief

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officer, your LSTA coordinator, and your designated
library development contact. Those may not

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be job roles at your agency, but they are
job categories that we have defined at IMLS.

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So ask one of those folks if they can forward
the message to you or connect with your program

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officer, and we can make sure you get a copy
of that.

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Basically, this message was our interpretation
of information that IMLS put on its website.

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You are of course welcome to see the information
that IMLS put on its website. It's just that

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that information is often couched in a discretionary
grant lens, so it's not all going to be applicable

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to Grants to States, and the website information
that we have up for our agency is sort of

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another lens. It's an interpretation and our
implementation of what we heard from our Office

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of Management and Budget, which sent out a
memo to all federal grantmaking agencies about

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the new flexibilities that they have offered
us. And of course, your program officer is

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always a resource on these issues. A lot of
what we're covering is on a case-by-case basis.

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We hesitate to make blanket statements about
what you can and cannot do, because there

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are often so many nuances to how you're carrying
out your programs. So we encourage you at

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the end of the day, if you have questions,
just to come to us and we will try to get

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them clarified.
The scope of what we're talking about here

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are your two open awards that were happening
as of late March, because that's when we got

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the guidance from OMB. So this is open awards
for fiscal 2019. That's the grant that's coming

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up with an end date of this September, and
then your fiscal 2020 award, which will end

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next September.
So a reminder that anything on our website

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around COVID-19, and there is a whole FAQ
page on this, is targeted to IMLS discretionary

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awards. So where on the website it's going
to talk quite a bit about no cost extensions,

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because that's a very common thing for discretionary
grants. Extensions, we want you to know, are

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quite rare for Grants to States. You get awards
every single year, and you have overlapping

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and parallel awards to keep track of, so as
much as possible we're trying to have you

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use the flexibility within those multiple
awards that you have, rather than asking for

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an extension, which starts to throw off the
whole cycle. They are possible, and we'll

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talk about that a little bit at the end.
The other thing on the website is that you're

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going to see some references to things like
approval requests and asking your program

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officer for approval. The flip side of the
extension coin is that you actually have a

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lot of flexibility when it comes to doing
things without IMLS approval, with the Grants

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to States program. So that is a plus.
There are a few exceptions. We have some new

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flexibilities in particular, and we're going
to cover those on later slides, but we've

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already approved your five-year plan, so that
is the stamp of approval for the 2018 to 2022

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cycle, for you to make the kinds of adjustments
that you need to make at your own discretion.

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The other thing the website will talk about,
if you look at the COVID-19 FAQs, are change

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requests in eGMS. And we are not using, in
the Grants to States program, eGMS change

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requests so that you would need to initiate
one of those to ask for this kind of flexibility.

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Instead, we will document some things on the
back end, and we just want you to know that

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that's not a mechanism that you need to use.
First, let's talk about that existing flexibility

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that you already have in Grants to States.
We have some kind of broad guidelines within

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which you are operating, and as long as you're
adhering to those, you can consider making

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changes on your own. Those broad principles
come from the Grants to States statute, so

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those are some of the certifications and assurances
that you have signed off on. Your five-year

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plan that IMLS has approved is another kind
of broad umbrella under which you're operating,

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and you need to be adhering to allowable costs,
which, for us, include a lot of things. You

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can pay for salaries, you can pay for services,
you can pay for programs. We don't want you

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to pay for things like advocacy or entertainment.
So there's a few unallowable costs, and as

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long as you're steering clear of those, you
can make some of these decisions on your own.

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We know with COVID-19 we've heard a lot about
folks having to make alternate plans for in-person

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events, so that's fine. If you need to pivot
from, much like we did for this conference,

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an in-person event where people would travel
and be together in a space, that's not healthy

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at this time that we're in, and you need to
make that a virtual event, that is perfectly

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acceptable for you to make that decision and
go forth and do it. You can also make in-scope

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changes at the state or subrecipients level,
and for us in scope, again, kind of points

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back to your five-year plan. Are you still
adhering to the goals that you told that you

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were going to tackle for this five-year period?
If so, then you're probably working within

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a scope where you don't need to ask our permission
to do different things.

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We do have some new flexibility. This is from
our Office of Management and Budget. It applies

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to multiple grant agencies across the federal
government. If you have these kinds of needs,

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we would just ask that you reach out to us
for prior approval, because they are exceptions

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to a lot of what we've talked about so far.
One of the areas we realize may need to be

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charged to a grant is if you've done everything
you can possibly do to pivot away from an

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in-person meeting, but you've still got some
unrecoverable costs. That is one of the areas

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that you can write to us and ask for that
to be charged to the grant, and we just need

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to document that on our end.
The second area is around salaries and benefits

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that would be charged under unexpected or
extraordinary circumstances. These need to

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be, if they're going to be charged to the
grant, consistent with the institution's own

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policy of paying salaries, so if an institution
is not paying folks salaries whose work has

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been disrupted by COVID-19, but you want to
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a grant, then that would not be an acceptable
approval that we could make. It has to be

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consistent with the institution's own policies.
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and codified and in writing in a very formal
way, but as long as there is some semblance

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of a policy -- we realize a lot of this stuff
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regional and state levels, and so some of
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email, for example, but if you give us a semblance
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also charging things like that to the grant.
So with these types of questions, we want

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you to reach out to your program officer and
they'll tell you the specific things that

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we need to know. Basically, it's things like
the estimated dollar amount that you'll be

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charging to the award, which grant year this
is going to apply to, and then if you're charging

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salaries and benefits, whether it's consistent
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The OMB has given us, for now, and this may
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flexibilities for 90 days. The memo was issued
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to be able to approve these new types of charges
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So, if you find yourself in the situation
where you think you might have some of these

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costs that need to be approved by IMLS before
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grant, what we're asking is that you do this
as soon as you can and reach out to us so

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that we don't find ourselves in a position
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you came to us too late, and we can no longer
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So we've got through June 17 at the moment,
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But for now, maybe check with your subrecipients,
do a little due diligence, so that we can

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smooth this transition and give you the approval
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On the COVID-19, just to wrap up, I have communicated
on the one hand that you have a lot of discretion

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to make your own decisions. That's not to
say that we don't want to hear from you. We're

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always happy to hear your questions and help
you think through options. It's just that

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we want to empower you to know that your program
works a little bit different than IMLS programs

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in general, and you do have some decision-making
discretion. Most of the scenarios that are

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happening out in the field have a lot of case-by-case
aspects to them, so we have not gone here

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into making blanket statements about what
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again, talk through options with you and help
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of action.
Then, on the extensions front, if you are

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doing everything you can do in this fiscal
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ends the end of September this year, if you've
moved money around, if you've thought about

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different projects, and you're still finding
that you cannot complete your activities by

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September 30 of this year, please reach out
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-- we can consider and we can give you approval
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States program. It's rare, but it is possible,
and we just ask that you would do that early

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enough so that we can weigh everything and
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With that, I want to pause and see if there
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to date, before we jump into the CARES Act
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I'm going to turn it to Deirdre to help me
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MS. GONSALVES: Absolutely, thank you. So we
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covering the salaries specifically for SLAA
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MS. DEVOE: OMB did not differentiate between
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if you have subrecipient staff that need to
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It's not restricted to just one type of staff.
MS. GONSALVES: Okay, our next question. Regarding

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the policy on salaries, is this a long-term
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or is this just short term for this circumstance?
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the charging salaries to the award under extraordinary
circumstances, that language that I put up

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on earlier slides, that is a very temporary
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and Budget has given us for 90 days. If folks
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of COVID-19, that is what it is supposed to
be responding to. It's a temporary situation

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that we're in, theoretically. If we hear it's
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But for now, that's a 90-day flexibility.
It's not something that we'll have forever

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and always.
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question. We have someone who wants to know
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meetings specifically, can grantees get reimbursed
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conferences, which are normally charged to
the grant, or is this just for meetings that

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grantees hold for themselves or are hosting,
and if it's the former, would a request for

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approval need to be submitted to the program
officer with the specifics for the conference?

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MS. DEVOE: There is existing flexibility in
the program. I hope I am answering this question

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correctly. You can always get reimbursed for
sending staff to conferences and for meetings

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that you're hosting. Right now what's happening
is COVID-19 is throwing a monkey wrench into

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a lot of these plans. So OMB has given us
new flexibility allowing us to charge atypical

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costs, like sunk cost for conferences, to
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that COVID-19 is new and different. If I'm
answering your question, hopefully, you can

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charge -- those costs could be both for travelers
traveling to conferences, or for meetings

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that you're hosting yourselves, or for meetings
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Basically, the whole gamut of conference-related
costs that might be sunk costs.

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And then, if the former, would we need to
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are of the sunk cost variety, it's not normally
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cost, we do want to hear from you and give
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We need to document that in writing, because
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they're going to want a report from us as
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of these flexibilities, and so we're documenting
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want you to come to us for prior approval.
I hope that answers the question.

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MS. GONSALVES: Someone wants to know if a
library is currently furloughing staff, if

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salaries can be charged to the grant.
MS. DEVOE: This is probably one of those case-by-case

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basis things, but I'll speak in broad brushstrokes.
If the library has an existing grant award,

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and they had existing grant funds paying for
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they're unable to carry out the grant-making
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could come to us and ask for some of these
flexibilities around charging those salaries

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to the award, as long as that same institution
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not paying for salaries on grant funds. If
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own institution funds. So there's a couple
of flavors of that. But come to us with anything

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like that, and if we don't have enough information
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more questions.
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flexibility regarding salaries not previously
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MS. DEVOE: This exact type of flexibility,
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has not been covered by the grant in the past.
And because OMB only issued its memo as of

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March 19, we would only be able to grant retroactive
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the first day that we had the flexibility
to make those requests. So yes, it has not

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been previously covered by the grants. COVID-19
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for us.
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regarding extensions. If a grantee is granted
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of time for the extension?
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to be determined by you as the SLAA. So there's
no set time period that we recommend. We want

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you to be able to finish all of the activities
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so if you think that's going to take an extra
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If you think that's going to take an extra
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extension. However long you think you're going
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period and to come to us with that time period
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extension amount you ask for will then kick
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because you get three months after the end
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So you tell us what you think you need, and
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MS. GONSALVES: There are currently no additional
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MS. DEVOE: That is great. Thank you all for
those great questions. And if you have more

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on COVID, go ahead and continue to ask them,
and whatever we don't get to during the presentation,

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we will follow up with you afterwards.
Now let's move into CARES Act funds. This

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is part of one of the waves of stimulus packages
that Congress has authorized in response to

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COVID-19, and I think it speaks very highly
of all your work in the field and your reputation

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as good stewards of funds that IMLS was given
$50 million to administer as part of this

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package. What I will say at the outset, that
this slide deck was finalized late last week,

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and on that very same day IMLS announced its
new discretionary opportunity through the

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CARES Act, and I do not have any slides on
that, so I'll talk about it just super briefly.

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We've got two kind of pools of funds going
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was originally granted out to all of you,
and I will be talking about that. An additional

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$15 million was just announced last Friday
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Those are going to be available to libraries
and museums to apply to IMLS directly. The

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deadline for that is going to be June 12,
so it is a rapid turnaround program, sort

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of in keeping with the emergency response
nature of the funds. All of you are technically

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eligible for these grants, and many of your
stakeholders and libraries that you work with

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will also be eligible for these grants.
There will be a webinar this Thursday at 2

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p.m. Eastern time, so if you haven't gotten
enough IMLS on Tuesday and Wednesday of this

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week for the virtual conference, you can tune
in again on Thursday at 2 p.m. Eastern, when

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there'll be a webinar specifically around
this discretionary pool of funding. The grants

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are going to be in the amount of $25,000 up
to $500,000. And the broad-brush scope, and

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this is where my expertise will stop, but
it's broadly around recovery and adaptation.

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So again, how have libraries and museums had
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So that is what I can tell you about discretionary
funds, and just sort of reiterate that everything

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I talk to after this point is going to be
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CARES Act funds, which is the $30 million
that went out in April.

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We also sent some prior information about
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and the library development folks, would have
gotten a message from me called "IMLS CARES

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Act funds for Grants to States". A lot of
that language was reiterated when we sent

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out your grant awards the following week.
The language is in the award document itself,

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your notice of action, as well as in a decision
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So both of these documents are in eGMS in
your documents tab. As long as you are an

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authorized user in eGMS and attached to the
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with Grants to States, you'll be able to see
these. And if you were one of a select group

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of contacts, you would have also gotten an
email on the day the awards were issued. That

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was April 21. In addition to that language
that we've sort of got written down, your

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program officer, again, is a wonderful resource,
and we're happy to talk through any CARES

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Act questions you might have.
This is a new and different grant, essentially.

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We've never in the Grants to States program
in my time had a separate grant like this,

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but it's new legislation, and therefore, it
is a new and different award that is separate

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from your fiscal 2020 award although it has
the same end date. So it's sort of running

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in parallel right now to your fiscal 2020
award, so both end next September.

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The CARES Act came with a couple of special
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there is no match requirement for CARES Act,
so whereas you have to bring a portion of

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state and local dollars to your traditional
Grants to States awards, these funds come

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with no match requirement. They also have
a special purpose, we should say, and we've

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sort of shorthanded this as the spending priorities.
Whereas your normal Grants to States awards

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sort of invoke the LSTA purposes and your
five-year plan, these funds have a very specific

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spending purpose and we'll talk about those
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But apart from these CARES Act provisions,
no match and the purpose, the existing Grants

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to States statutory provisions still apply
to these CARES Act awards. So the CARES Act

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stuff still comes under the banner of your
five-year plans. They still need to adhere

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to the certifications and assurances that
you signed earlier this year, and that includes

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things like the Children's Internet Protection
Act, and they still follow our traditional

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IMLS guidance around things like allowable
costs and 4 percent administration, and other

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things. So we're going to dive a little deeper
into these as the slides go along.

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So the purpose. This is the language that
was both in the email that I sent you, and

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all the award documentation that you've received.
You've probably seen it already, but it's

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just worth underscoring here. CARES Act is
Public Law 116-136, and its purpose is to

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prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus,
including to expand digital network access,

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purchase internet-accessible devices, and
provide technical support services. For the

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Grants to States program we said that primarily
we want you to focus on digital inclusion

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and related technical support. That is the
primary purpose of this funding.

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The three bullets in that section are very
much data points to help you inform how you

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determine the need for this digital inclusion
focus. We are not saying that you have to

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do anything with the SNAP program or your
unemployment offices. Just that these are

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data points. There is poverty data out there.
SNAP data is a bit more broad. It can help

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you inform the needs in your state and point
to the areas of greatest need. Same with unemployment

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data. This is changing by the day, but there
is unemployment data out there, so that when

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folks come to you and say how did you determine
how you were using your CARES Act funds, you

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can say, well, we looked at the poverty data
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data.
I will say, about this data, it also is being

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invoked in the discretionary form of the CARES
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when we announced the availability of those
funds on Friday, our colleagues, Lisa Frehill,

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who's going to be speaking to you this afternoon,
and Matt Birnbaum, put together what they're

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calling an IMLS indicators workbook, and this
has some of this type of data in it. We know

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that you probably have a lot of this data
at your fingertips for your states, but the

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workbook that IMLS put together has state
and county data in it. It is linked to our

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website now, under the data area of our website,
and then the data catalogue, and it's basically

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an Excel spreadsheet that has Bureau of Labor
Statistics data in it, Census data in it,

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and broadband data in it.
So if you have been puzzling about this data

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and would like to access the digest that our
colleagues put together, it's there and available

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to you, and I believe Matt Birnbaum is going
to talk about again tomorrow, with some screenshots

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and slides, so that you can see where this
is located. But basically, the data, again,

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is just a tool to help you make decisions.
The funding, again, primarily around digital

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inclusion. So that is effort number one.
And then secondarily, we want you to address

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other efforts that prevent, prepare for, and
respond to coronavirus. And the third issue

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here is new and exciting for Grants to States.
We have asked, to the extent that you can,

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to reach out and include museum and tribal
partners where appropriate. And the caveat

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language there is really where appropriate.
We know that not every state allows these

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types of institutions to be part of their
eligibility, and we still respect that. There

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is probably some creative ways that you can
partner with them, but again, it's not required.

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Because we know that these funds, we're anticipating
that they're going to be watched with more

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close scrutiny than our usual grant programs,
one thing our leadership asked was rather

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than wait for Grants to States to do its traditional
reporting cycle, which comes after the fact

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-- you know, we wouldn't hear from you until
December 2021 how you were spending your CARES

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Act funds, unless we asked you earlier. So
we went a few weeks ago to the chief officers

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of all the states and asked if you could give
us just a high-level, really preliminary,

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overview of how you plan to spend the funds.
We wanted to keep that information internal

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to IMLS for the most part. We're not going
to out any states, because a lot of those

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plans are super-preliminary, but what we can
do with it is a really quick-and-dirty digest

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of the types of things that you're thinking
about. Very broadly, this is not even an exhaustive

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list of topics, you came up with a lot more
exciting things that we could talk about,

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but just to see that you were tracking with
the language in the CARES Act, we pulled together

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this slide.
Really the first three areas, connectivity,

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digital content, and online reading programs,
I think really speak to that digital inclusion

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and related technical support focus. So it's
really heartening to see how much emphasis

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that gets in terms of the count that we did.
A lot of you also invoked unemployment-related

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needs, specifically around things like databases
and training support and having librarians

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assist with unemployment-related things. A
lot of you talked about COVID response supplies

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and things you would need to purchase to help
your physical spaces in your libraries reopen

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and get back to a new and different way of
business. We looked at how many of you had

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explicitly mentioned museums, and there were
13 states that had. That doesn't mean that

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more of you won't end up working with museums,
but just in the very quick count from these

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preliminary plans, that's what we saw. And
seven of you mentioned tribes explicitly.

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The last category here isn't really a topic,
but it was interesting as a mechanism to see

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that 19 of you were thinking about subawards,
and I have seen that some of you have already

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deployed these subaward programs and have
worked just really rapidly to get this funding

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out the door, which is outstanding, and we
applaud all the efforts that you're doing

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on this front.
Of these topical areas, our colleagues suggested

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it would be great if you could pull a few
examples just so people could see, like connectivity.

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For us, encompasses a very large range of
things. It's everything from hotspots to devices

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with data plans to wifi extenders and repeaters,
all the way up to equipment upgrades and so

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much more. So if there's anything around internet
access, people being able to access the internet,

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we included it broadly in this category.
Digital content, probably not surprisingly,

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centered around ebooks, audiobooks, and databases.
We have some examples here of the unemployment-related

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things that you're thinking about in advance.
The COVID response supplies range from sprays

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and wipes to masks and gloves and sneeze guards
and keyboard covers. And other materials that

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would help libraries do a staged reopening
of their physical spaces.

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For those of you mentioning museums, we took
one example from a state that was thinking

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about summer learning and virtual programming
where they could partner with museums if possible,

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to make those virtual programming opportunities
happen. Another state that mentioned tribes

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specifically talked about targeting grants
to the four tribal college libraries in the

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state. And one of the states that was going
to pursue a subgrant program outlined grants

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of $250 to $1,000, and these would be for
public libraries to help address digital inclusion

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needs.
Again, these are just examples. I would say

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our communications manager at IMLS who saw
this very initial digest of information was

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very excited. She's always looking for stories
to showcase, and we know that many of you

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are in super preliminary stages of rolling
out your CARES Act funds, but if you have

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programs or projects that you have already
kind of gotten off the ground, even in sort

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of a conceptual format, if you want us to
potentially showcase those on our website,

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she would be interested in reaching out to
you. If you are interested, if you are willing,

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reach out to me or your program officer. This
is Teri, it's tdevoe@imls.gov, and you can

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tell me, hey, we'd like to have your communication
manager reach out to us and showcase this

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great thing we're doing with CARES Act funds.
The more of those great stories that we can

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start sending out will sort of be a return
on investment for those folks that granted

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us these funds and trusted us to do great
things with them. So we're excited to start

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showcasing things. And even if it's just a
news release that you've already issued yourself,

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send it our way, and we'll amplify those things
through social media and find a way to showcase

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them. I just wanted to put in a little plug
from a communications standpoint.

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All right, I just want to quickly revisit
this idea that while the CARES Act funds have

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their own little special purpose and waived
match, if you think about CARES Act and Grants

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to States as an overlapping Venn diagram,
CARES Act largely comes under the umbrella

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of Grants to States, and most of the Grants
to States statutory provisions still apply.

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So we've still got your five-year plan in
play, you want your CARES Act funds to still

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reflect that. The LSTA priorities are what
the five-year plan reflects, so that's still

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in play. If you have SLAA-determined eligibility,
that is where we wouldn't force you to make

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grants to museums and tribes if they are not
part of your existing eligibility requirements.

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But maybe think about partnering with them.
Four percent administration is an optional

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but allowable part of the CARES Act grants,
just like they are with Grants to States.

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So if you need to reserve a portion of CARES
Act so that you can report on them at the

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end of the cycle, pay your LSTA coordinator,
et cetera, that is still part and parcel of

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this grant program.
Allowable costs are still in play. So, we

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don't want you again to be doing things like
throwing entertainment banquets or lobbying

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with CARES Act funds. Just as they are not
appropriate for Grants to States, they're

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not appropriate for CARES Act. And things
that you certified and signed off on, like

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Children's' Internet Protection Act and non-construction
still apply to CARES Act. So I'm going to

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give those two topics a little bit of extra
time on the next slides.

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Essentially, Children's Internet Protection
Act continues to apply to the CARES Act because

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all of you, as state library administrative
agencies, SLAAs, are subject to it. If you're

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thinking about giving CARES Act funding or
devices to libraries, if they receive E-rate

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funds, then they are already subject to CIPA.
The ones you need to worry about a little

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bit more are the other libraries who don't
already receive E-rate funds, and in that

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instance, the SLAA needs to ensure that the
recipient library or the recipient institution

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has an internet safety policy in place for
its devices. So we realize there's probably

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more nuance to questions around this. Feel
free to write to us with those questions,

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and we will do our best to answer them. But
that's kind of the high-level deal on CIPA.

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And then we've got just a word on connectivity
and construction. Construction is still unallowable

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under the CARES Act. It's unallowable under
the Grants to States statutory provisions,

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which extend to match funds. We realize CARES
Act does not have match funds attached to

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it, but we always like to remind folks that
we don't want to see construction invoked

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in any part of your SPR report, whether it
was paid for by federal dollars or state dollars

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or local dollars. Just construction should
not be reported there.

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This includes things like broadband infrastructure
projects that would require major construction

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equipment or trenching or construction-related
trades. There are a number of federal agencies

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out in the universe that can fund last-mile
projects, but IMLS at this moment is unfortunately

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not one of them. So we just encourage you,
especially with the digital inclusion focus

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of the CARES Act, to proceed with caution
with any kind of infrastructure upgrades that

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you may be making. They have to adhere to
our statute and avoid construction.

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I'm going to go through just a visual here
to show that you have at any given time overlapping

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Grants to States awards. That is always the
case. But what's happening now is that you've

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also got a CARES Act award running in parallel
with your 2020 Grants to States award, and

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although it began at a slightly different
period, it will end at the same time, September

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30 of next year. And then you'll report on
that in the SPR, together with your other

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award. So I'm going to do a few slides quick
on SPR reporting, and then make sure that

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we have a little bit of time for questions.
For CARES Act, we want you to report in the

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SPR as you would for your normal Grants to
States funds. The first reporting that we're

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going to see on this will actually be this
coming December, and it's financial only,

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because you will report on both your fiscal
year 2020 and your CARES Act awards in your

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interim federal financial report. There is
a space for log numbers to fit multiple ones,

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and we've got an illustration of that on the
slide. And again, this particular financial

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report goes through the SPR. There's report
language that is sometimes shown up in the

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eGMS, but we want you to report this data
in the SPR.

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When it comes time to report your final CARES
Act award, that will be next December of 2021.

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They're going to be, again, reported alongside
-- CARES Act and FY2020 awards will all be

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reported together. The way we want you to
differentiate any of your CARES Act awards

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in the SPR, by giving them a title prefix
of CARES Act. On the slide there's two examples

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of projects that don't have that prefix, so
presumably they're part of your fiscal 2020

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allotment, and then there's a couple of examples
that do have the CARES Act prefix.

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So that would tell your program officer and
the general public, when this gets out into

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the SPR public view, that you've got a couple
of different kinds of projects going on here.

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And for any of your CARES Act projects, they
work a little differently than your other

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projects. The Act wasn't in place until this
spring, and we didn't issue your awards until

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April 21, so for any CARES Act projects, your
start date should not be before April 21.

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And your end date can be shorter. If you do
some rapid response projects and they end

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this fall, make sure that your end date in
the SPR reflects that.

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A note on the financials for the final report.
This is your financial status report. So once

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again, it's going to be combined funds for
fiscal 2020 and CARES Act with two log numbers.

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As much as possible, we want your CARES Act
projects reported separately, but we realize

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there might be some instances where a project
that you report on next year uses both fiscal

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2020 funds and CARES Act funds, and if that's
the case, there's only one column for federal

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funds in the SPR, in the budget area, so you
can put your combined total in the numerical

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field, but be sure in the description that
you differentiate the CARES Act funds from

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the fiscal 2020 LSTA funds so that we can
know which funds were going where, as we're

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reviewing those projects.
So just as a summary, again, this coming year

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you'll only need to report on some financial
data around your CARES Act funds, and next

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year you'll do the full reporting in the SPR
and your CARES Act funds. And just a note

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about maintenance of effort, because we know
some of you have had questions about this.

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MOE is always based on your three-year average.
So we are not expecting you to report more

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MOE funds next year because you received additional
CARES Act funds this year. It's still based

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on a three-year average, and we'll still have
the future MOE waiver process for any states

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whose budgets were affected this year and
in future years. We understand that budgets

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are very much in flux right now, and we will
have the existing mechanisms of the MOE waiver

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process to address those.
And just a final note in the SPR system. We

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know that especially with the financial status
report, the FSR, there are some auto calculations

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that happen around match in particular, and
we are already working with our vendor to

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make sure that things are appropriately reflected
there next year. This will not affect your

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interim FFR, but it is a note for the final,
so we have time to work it out.

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This is, at the end of the day, an unprecedented
moment in the history of our program, and

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we know that you are all rising to the challenge
like superheroes. So we'll just end by saying

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we're close to the end of the hour. We're
probably not going to get through a lot of

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questions, but we're happy to talk through
individual concerns. We'll follow up after

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the conference with individual questions that
you've asked here, and we just want to thank

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you now for all that you do to serve communities
in need. It is more important than ever.

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Deirdre, with our last two minutes, would
you like to surface a question or two?

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MS. GONSALVES: Sure. I have two questions
regarding construction costs. One is is labor

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for installing sneeze guards and other protective
devices covered by this funding, and is internal

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cabling allowable or is it construction?
MS. DEVOE: This might be case-by-case questions.

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We tend to say that if things can be installed
without specialized labor, like if a staff

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member could install something with a screwdriver
and if it's moveable and could be disassembled

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and taken to another place, then it could
possibly be allowable. But as soon as you

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start to invoke specialized construction trades
and construction equipment, you're probably

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tipping into the balance of unallowable. So
if you want to follow up with a specific example,

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your program officer can help you make that
call.

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MS. GONSALVES: And a broader question is the
CARES Act apply to both libraries and museums?

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MS. DEVOE: Yes. The broader CARES Act, which
was the public law, mentioned both libraries

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and museums, and also tribes. The Grants to
States portion of the CARES Act is administered

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by all of you, so we, because it's statutory,
defer to your eligibility requirements. And

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you set that eligibility. So if you can make
grants to museum libraries, for example, then

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they would be eligible entities if you determine
that that's how you want to use the money.

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But ultimately a lot of that eligibility is
up to you.

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MS. GONSALVES: Just one last question. Would
you be able to share any examples of rapid

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response projects?
MS. DEVOE: Rapid response projects. I think,

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given our time, I won't fumble around, but
I know that some of you are already doing

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response projects and buying devices and deploying
devices to the field, so it runs the gamut,

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and I have a feeling we're going to start
to see a lot of coverage of these exciting

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projects.
With that, I'll just thank you again. Let

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you know that we have a ten-minute break coming
up, and after the ten-minute break is over,

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you're going to hear, if you come back, reflections
from our program officers, Michele and Madison,

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about the SPR. So thanks for hanging in there
with us, and again, if your questions wasn't

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answered, we'll follow up with you after.