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Institute of Museum and Library Services 2020
Grants to States All States Conference May

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13, 2020 Virtual
Proceedings by: CASET Associates, Ltd. caset@caset.net

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P R O C E E D I N G S (1:00 p.m.)
MS. DEVOE: This is Teri from IMLS. It is my

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great pleasure to introduce our speaker for
today, Matt Birnbaum supervising social scientist

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at IMLS and is also the first brave soul on
our virtual conference to use his webcam,

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so kudos to Matt for that. We want you to
know that the slides, which we posted on our

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website and sent out the link to the agenda
where you could get slides, we did not have

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Matt’s slides in the very initial notification
we sent you, but they are there now. If you

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would like to grab a couple of his slides,
we have them on our website. Once we get Matt

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back with his video – and I think we will
still be able to hear his voice, but we are

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going to the brave land of webcams today.
With that, I will turn it over to Matt.

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Agenda Item: Promising Practices from the
SPR

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MR. BIRNBAUM: Thank you, Teri, and I got my
camera working again. It is great to talk

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to everyone. I am always thankful to Teri
and her team for allowing us to be part of

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your community. I have been really proud to
be part of this community for ten years.

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Ten years ago, almost to this day, we were
meeting in Baltimore and we were talking about

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gee, it would be somehow better for us to
be able to compare a summer reading project

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in Michigan to one in Mississippi. That was
the stories that we told. From that, we went

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into a whole planning process of creating
what today is the SPR. Today the apples and

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oranges that I would like to talk about involve
digital literacy and broadband projects.

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A little bit about the overview for today.
I want to give a little bit of snippets about

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how we did the analysis of the digital literacy
and broadband projects and then I am going

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to present the findings. I will do it first
for those projects related to digital literacy

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and I will do it second afterwards for emerging
impressions.

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It looks like my brave new world of seeing
my cam has been replaced with a photo. I hope

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that is okay with everybody.
A little bit about the analytical protocols.

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There were about almost 1400 projects this
year that were funded across all the SLAAs.

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We wanted to start to figure out which of
those relate to digital literacy and broadband.

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We did those. We met with the first piece
that we did as we tried to identify what those

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projects were. From those, we did some statistical
analysis to describe what they looked like.

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In doing so, we started to bin some of the
projects that were closer to each other together.

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And then once we had them in their buckets,
we then tried to assess each of them particularly

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looking for successes based on either their
innovativeness, their adaptability, or their

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promising practices.
For those that we found that seemed to be

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very successful, we tried to get some illustrations
of some of those projects and what they would

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look like.
When we did the initial looking at the 1400

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projects that were funded in 2018, which of
those might be related to broadband digital

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literacy, we identified 84 – 70 with digital
literacy, 15 were broadband. You might do

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the math initially and go hey, 70 plus 15
equals 85. That is correct. We had one project

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that we had identified as both digital literacy
and broadband. How did we identify these projects?

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Three ways.
Every project, as you all know, you have a

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couple of subject fields that you can tag
it to. The second, you have your own choice

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to add some additional tags to those and then
third, the program officers were giving their

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assessments as well. From those, we ended
up with a list of about 84 projects.

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Once we got those 84 projects, we started
binning them, putting them into buckets. The

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first bin was to separate the 70 that were
digital literacy and the 15 that were broadband.

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The next twist was to look at their focal
area to see what they were principally intending

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to do. And the third one was looking at the
narrative data, trying to identify what their

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emphasis was. This could be something about
the audience, the beneficiary. It could be

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something specific about the types of product
or activity that they were delivering.

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In looking at the narrative data, we were
principally looking at seven fields and specifically

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the – five fields, the title, the abstract,
and them some information that people wrote

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about some of the outcomes that the project
was doing, its importance, and thinking about

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some of the important lessons learned.
In trying to look at that narrative data,

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trying to think about how do we know if it
is innovative, adoptable or a promising practice,

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we asked the set of questions for innovative.
We looked at is there something noteworthy

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about the audience that is being reached.
Is there something notable about the type

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of project activity that the project was involved
with?

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For adaptability, is there any evidence that
we can find the replicability? Is there any

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evidence that is being scaled up? Is there
any evidence at all about this influencing

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the future direction of this investment?
Promising practices. We asked two questions.

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One, we asked what lessons would others really
want to know about this project? And second,

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we looked at the partnerships and trying to
assess how strategic they might be.

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Let us now move to the findings and the first
thing will be digital literacy. Let us look

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at the where. We have 23 states plus Northern
Marianas, who invested in at least one digital

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literacy project. The 70 projects span 175
activities, a little over $5 million total

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with a median project a little over $31,000
and about 21 percent of those exemplary.

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When we looked at the how much of these projects
cost, as I just mentioned, overall, the 70

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projects, they account for more than $5 million
per year. If you look at the share of this

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that was supported by LSTA funds, it is steadily
increasing from over the years from 51 percent

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in 2015 up to 70 percent in 2018.
How. How were these projects – how were

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they trying to be administered? When we looked
at most of these projects, about almost two-thirds

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of them were simply one or two activities.
At the opposite extreme, we had 10 percent

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of them were involved with five or more activities.
If you look at the table on the right, if

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we look at what types of activities these
were involved with, overwhelming majority,

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more than eight in ten were instruction and
about half of them involved content.

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Just a quick note if you are getting confused,
if you start doing the math using the right

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hand table, you start saying that if I had
up 83 percent plus 54 percent, that adds over

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100 percent. Why is that going on? And that
is because if you look back again at the left-hand

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table, a table can have more than one activity.
We are just trying to look at how many of

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these projects did at least one of these activities
involve and instruction content, finding an

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evaluation or procurement.
Who were these grantees? The overwhelming

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majority were public libraries. The next way
to share were the state library administrative

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agencies. And then we had a smaller share
of academic libraries, school libraries, special

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libraries, other types of libraries, and one
that involved a consortium.

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If you looked with whom, who were doing the
implementation and who were the partners,

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in looking at the implementing sites, again,
the overwhelming majority are in public libraries.

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A smaller share is in state libraries. And
then you can see a smaller share of other

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types of libraries as well.
As you look at the partners, an overwhelming

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share of this is it is still happening at
the local level with local government, and

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then you have some other actors involved.
The school district and nonprofit, we assume

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are also operating principally at a local
level as well.

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Whom? Whom were being served? We look at the
beneficiaries. And this one we could see that

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is a relatively even mix. Most were being
targeted to a general public. About three

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in ten – to the targeted public, excuse
me, about three in ten to the general public,

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and almost three in ten to the library workforce.
If you look at the right for those that were

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targeted, this was an optional question so
not everybody answered it. But of those who

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target it and trying to get a sense of who
were they targeting it to and about a half

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of them were targeted by age group.
Why were they doing this digital literacy?

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What were they trying to achieve? Overwhelming
majority, 54 percent was for – more than

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half was for lifelong learning in contrast
to just 32 percent for all of the projects

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in 2018. Also, when we think about the digital
literacy projects, they were more likely to

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involve economic development, 10 percent then
for the entire portfolio, which is just 2

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out of 100, 2 percent.
I am going to now start looking at trying

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to pull in these descriptions and try to pull
a little more into the weeds in terms of when

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we looked at the narrative data, what did
we start seeing as we looked at these digital

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literacy projects.
The first thing we are going to do is we are

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going to look at the focal area that involved
lifelong learning. The lifelong learning involved

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principally general knowledge and skills.
They were about 34 of the 38 projects. Another

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four of the projects involved another intent
of lifelong learning. That was formal education.

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Of these 38 projects, they comprised about
$2.4 million, a little more than two-thirds

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supported for the LSTA funds.
Some of the defining characteristics. In addition

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to four of these projects, focused on formal
education. Six were principally had a planning

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focus either to expand digital inclusion or
to expand the mobility of the library’s

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technology. Eighteen were focused on youth,
and these were principally STEM, STEAM, and

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STREAM projects. And seven were focused on
employment and these were either related to

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employment or related to the senior population
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Let us now start looking at some of the highlights.
The first project that we would like to highlight

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is a project that came out of California,
the Pacific Partnership Cooperative, the “Cybersecurity

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Training for Teens Using Minecraft”. As
an anecdote, I talked to my teenage stepson

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over the weekend about this project and I
said, do these teen gamers really play Minecraft.

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He said well, it is kind of cringy, but yes,
we do use them. Even the girl gamers use them.

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My English vocabulary expanded with boy gamers
and girl gamers. As we looked at this project,

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it was a really cool project. They are using
this popular video game of Minecraft to teach

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teenagers about cybersecurity practices.
In doing so, they developed toolkits and blog

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posts and they started working through trying
to develop some guiding practices, using surveying

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of the patrons to figure out some great guiding
practices.

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The second project I would like to highlight
comes out of Texas, the El Paso Public Library.

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And before I even knew that we had a superhero
theme for this year, we had already pulled

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this project. This project is titled “Become
A Digital Superhero”. This was a really

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neat innovative project that the public library
was working with the schools in which they

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were taking a number of the teens and having
them create their own video games and telling

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them stories about citizenship. In doing so,
they were using this in a very active, engaging

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way, in which the students were collaborating
with each other and with the instructors.

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The next two projects from the lifelong learning
bucket dealt with examples of adaptability.

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The first one comes from Florida from the
Putnam Public Library, the Levy Public Library,

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which is part of the PAL Cooperative, and
this was in the rural part of the state. They

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gave us a project called “Bringing the 21st
Century to Rural Libraries: Inspiring the

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Next Generation of Makers and Inventors”.
As you can see, this project involved a maker

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space that was a technological overhaul of
the STEAM initiative with 228 new pieces of

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equipment targeting over 200 classes, serving
nearly 4000 children.

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One of the interesting things about it that
they noticed is suddenly by doing this, they

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were noticing an increase in the participation
of dads. In addition to the dads, they were

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noticing there was an increase niche of those
families that were homeschooling. And as part

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of that assessment, they are looking about
ways to better serve that community and in

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general, better be able to serve the families
working in the homes including by expanding

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access with mobile Wi-Fi hotspots.
The second project we would like to highlight

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today comes from Indiana. It is from the School
for the Blind and Visually Impaired and the

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title of this project is “Expanding ISBVI’s
Makerspace”. Here is another makerspace

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project and it is using the makerspace as
traditionally done for helping all types of

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folks, but also expanding it to those who
are blind and visually impaired.

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In doing so, their curriculum particularly
links these expanded makerspace efforts to

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their ECC, Expanded Core Curriculum. In doing
so, particularly teaching skills that for

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those of us who can see, these come fairly
intuitive, but for those who have some disadvantages,

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it is more difficult and they are using these
skills, the makerspace to try to overcome

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that.
The last set of projects from this bucket

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that I would like to talk about. The first
one comes from Arizona from the Senior Tech

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Academy in Glendale, Arizona. This was a very
innovative partnership between the local public

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library and community college, using digital
literacy to target a population. We might

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not always think about. This is our senior
population. In doing so, they began to have

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conversations and looking at ways in which
they can do the interactive technology and

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social services to basically expand the retiree’s
ability to go online to connect socially and

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gain access to unlimited lifelong learning.
One of their practices that they came up with

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is thinking about the ways you want to mesh
the latest technology in supporting the social

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needs of this population.
The last project from this focal area that

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we would like to highlight comes from Minnesota
from the St. Cloud Public Library. It is called

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“Breaking Down Barriers to Family Literacy”.
This project was one of the few that we noticed

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that were using the NorthStar Digital Literacy
Assessment tool to assess folks’ digital

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literacy.
In this case, there was a conscientious effort

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to target those who are more vulnerable, be
they dislocated workers, multi-lingual adult

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learners, new Americans and families in poverty.
The work involved some very creative extensive

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partnerships in the public, nonprofit and
private organizations with happenings in libraries

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around conversation centers, outside of the
libraries, in apartment complexes, a factory,

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daycare centers, and elsewhere.
The work is helping them strengthen this project,

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but in general, strengthening their relationship
with other key partners to be able to expand

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their capacity for community engagement.
I am just going to stop now and see if maybe

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we have one comment or two questions.
MS. GONSALVES: We do not have any additional

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questions right now, Matt.
MR. BIRNBAUM: Okay, I will continue then.

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I have everybody spellbound. That is what
I like.

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For the next set of the portfolio, we are
going to look at for those projects where

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the intentionality involves expanding information
access. There are 18 projects in this portfolio.

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It is about 21 percent of the portfolio or
about 10 SLAAs. Cumulatively, they represent

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about $2 million and about 65 percent of this
was supported with LSTA funds.

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When we look at these 18 projects, 14 involved
activities that involve content, and 12 involve

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an instructional activity. Regardless of the
type of activity that may have been coded,

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10 of these focus specifically on planning
and a large share of these also had an audience

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focus be they adult, blind and visually impaired
individuals, college students, or youth.

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I would like to highlight three projects at
this point. The first project comes from us

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from the State of North Carolina, and it is
called the ”Refreshable Braille Display

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Project”. And this was a really interesting
and exciting project where they piloted the

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concept of a library providing refreshable
braille displays for blind or physically handicapped

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patrons. By doing so, they are allowing the
use, the access of braille in a formal digital

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format in the way that would not be accessible
to many people who need it.

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The second project here comes right here in
my backyard in Washington, DC. This was a

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project called the “Digital Literacy Initiative”.
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NorthStar Digital Literacy Assessment to do
their needs assessments. In doing so, they

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were able to identify 12 distinct areas of
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planning, they designed and built visualizations
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literacy levels and then be able to apply
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to disadvantaged groups in this area.
In terms of a promising practice, we would

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like to highlight a project that came out
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the 50s”. This project focused on reaching
out to the senior population again. They in

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particular, if I remember correctly, were
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early in their youth and they took their photos,
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a memory for the community of this generation.
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with the library, with community clubs and
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The next part of the portfolio were eight
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almost entirely funded with LSTA dollars.
These projects were focused on institutional

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capacity, principally building up the library
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technological infrastructure.
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and three involved public libraries. All of
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support. Three had a specific training of
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technologies, it was not narrowly focused
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see the connection, sometimes you could not.
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library professional development.
One project we like to highlight from this

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bundle came from the State of Washington,
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initiative by the SLAA that focuses on training
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had teachers working in the school libraries.
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they got to the FY18 grant period, they decided
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curriculum on digital citizenship.
What was very interesting was to see their

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attempt at diffusion working with a few, empowering
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In this case, they took a group of teacher
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in developing a curriculum that is linked
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by others in their state.
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that we would like to talk about are those
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employment focus. These six projects comprised
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93 percent of this was supported with the
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When we look at these six projects, even though
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it could have potentially been helping small
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in this instance, it was all focused on the
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libraries and half were another type of library.
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a partnership in all these projects, be it
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with the public libraries working with their
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One project that was interesting in that is
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and the expanding rehabilitation efforts.
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from planning, equipment acquisitions, consultations,
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The one project we would like to highlight
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It comes from the State of Vermont. It is
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In this instance, the SLAA purchased Ebsco’s
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accessibility of public libraries participating
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went up from 12 to 541 in that year.
The future right now, now that they have the

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product up and going is to increase its usefulness.
They are looking at ways to do better direct

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outreach to library directors to understand
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and multi-faceted training on how to use the
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publicity materials.
Let us stop again and see if there are any

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questions at all that might be surfacing with
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MS. GONSALVES: David would like to know who
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a review or analysis shared with legislators?
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information shared. I am losing the context.
Is the information shared was about the work

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that we are presenting today? I am going to
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me out if you want me to re-interpret it otherwise.
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We will be sharing it with the rest of IMLS.
We will probably also share it with the Library

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Statistics Working Group. We will certainly
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who are on the Hill as well as any of you
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would be to talk to Teri and me about that
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MS. GONSALVES: David says you are right on
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MR. BIRNBAUM: You are the first audience that
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year we have done this. Last year was early
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make this most useful.
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questions at this time.
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to the broadband projects. There were 15 of
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about $3 million, nearly $118,000 median projects.
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projects, and about 7 percent of the grantees
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When we look at the how - how are these projects
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a little more than eight in 10 were simply
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look at what types of activities, these were
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When we look at the instruction, these principally
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or presentations.
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that these projects are steadily growing over
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million, about a 46 percent increase. By contrast,
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funds with a share of LSTA funding, declining
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We looked at who the grantees were. These
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with whom, where were the partnering going
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or the SLAAs were the grantees, public libraries
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projects were being implemented. Sixty-seven
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percent for SLAAs and a much smaller sprinkling
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If we looked at what type of partners, again,
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with 40 percent by local government, 27 percent
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and 20 percent with federal government.
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51 percent were the general population, 43
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six percent had a targeted population.
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not surprisingly, almost over nine out of
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to improve library’s institutional capacity
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portfolio in 2018.
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the 14 states, we tried to develop some defining
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that they totaled nearly $3.2 million with
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Of the 14 of these 15 projects that focused
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involved efforts around E-Rate. Another six
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in improving the public library’s IT infrastructure,
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evidence of making an effort to improve digital
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An example of innovation comes from the State
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project that was targeting rural tribal libraries.
They particularly had 12 of them where they

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were starting or maintaining Wi-Fi hotspot
lending programs. These equated to 262 hotspots

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in total being used almost 2,446 times during
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surveying to assess what the patrons were
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You can see that 79 percent of these patrons
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internet service. Seventy percent were using
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all of them planned to use that hotspot again.
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comes from the State of Oklahoma. This is
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grants of using Edge. In this case, we wanted
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the SLAA was providing its public libraries
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to assess the digital inclusion needs and
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grants to those libraries to offset those
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Many of these were serving rural areas where
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of these public libraries had little experience
as grantees. So in response, the Edge consultant

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was helping the libraries use the Edge toolkit,
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to help them better meet the Edge benchmarks
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grant program.
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them create better services, but a large number
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it fully because they did not have enough
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Oklahoma, in thinking of its future steps,
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writing resources to the public libraries
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that there is more planning going on around
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As an example of a promising practice, comes
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Upgrade and Ongoing Support” project. Here,
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E-Rate in all of the state’s library system,
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service providers. The work involved anything
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assessment, identifying and negotiating the
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technical support.
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are involved with E-Rates. What we want to
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of the SLAAs being able to provide centralized
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the local libraries to congregate together
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positive outputs from the vendors and to be
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SLAA is doing ongoing assessment and evolving
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highest possible speed for its public libraries.
Let me stop again and see if we have any questions.

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MS. GONSALVES: Hi, Matt. There is a question
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How did the SLAA handle the licensing component
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two years and who pays afterwards? I recognize
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someone in the audience, Arizona maybe, could
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you have any additional information.
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that might be something – this is a great
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where we might want to think about expanding
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more of that information.
MS. GONSALVES: Okay. As soon as the response

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comes in through the Q&A, I will let you know.
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end of this initial presentation. I want to
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I want to contextualize this portfolio. These
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percent of the entire portfolio. If you look
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the – the left hand – bars – they basically
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comprised a little more than one percent of
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broadband about that much. If you just look
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is comprising about two percent and the broadband
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is a bottom-line message here. Essentially
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these comprise of relatively small share of
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As we start thinking about further exploration
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the methodology that we presented today, there
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little bit further. One is just the use of
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us if it is not true, that when we use the
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or bringing more life to the projects and
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these projects entail.
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of a lot of the grantees in these projects
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is really exciting because that is helping
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evolving.
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year was the first time we introduced the
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pretty close, but we are continuing to fine
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The second bullet I just want to highlight
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It is really hard to get a good meaning of
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when does it not, and what does digital literacy
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elevator and we give the 30-second pitch,
we think everybody will know what each other

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is talking about. But when you start really
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more closely, a lot more ambiguity surfaces.
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projects did not necessarily involve directly
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ways to expand the infrastructure to make
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of personal computing. It involves the efforts
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across the country’s communities.
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to get a better sense of what these projects
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that were coded, that the intentionality was
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a lot of cases, it seemed that improving the
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some outcomes for a patron, be it their lifelong
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learning had a very strong employment content
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grants, the state projects that are trying
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than just those that were labeled strictly
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support.
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we are in the current five-year planning cycle
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I know we are going to have more information
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highlight a couple of points now about it.
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closely to try to start seeing how well all
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intents and within the focal areas. We are
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as they get repeated over multiple years,
trying to get a better sense of any project

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that began with a planning effort. What does
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to benefit some specific audience?
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a better sense of these projects that are
spreading over time and space, trying to get

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a sense of how that spread looks like.
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MS. GONSALVES: Hi, Matt. We do not have new
questions, but I think we have a bit of an

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answer to Claudia’s earlier question about
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component for hotspots, who pays? Jaime responded
that local libraries accept the cost of the

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data plans after the grant cycle.
MR. BIRNBAUM: Thank you. Lisa, are you on

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the phone?
MS. FREHILL: I am, but I think we are out

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of time, Matt.
MR. BIRNBAUM: Okay. We will just let everybody

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know that we have this new IMLS data product
out there for folks and it will help you particularly

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with your CARES grants, and your slides have
more information about this. I see we have

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one minute left. If there are any questions,
we will take it; otherwise, thank you, everybody,

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for your time and attention.
MS. DEVOE: Matt, thank you. This is Teri.

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We can put the chat box back open if people
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break.