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welcome back everyone to day two of the
grants to states conference

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virtual edition uh we're happy for those
of you that just joined us

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uh to be learning about your
aspirational travel once

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pandemic times are behind us or
maybe if they're not even behind us

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where do you think you will be going
next or are most looking forward to you

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can put that in the chat
um we are uh going to have a first

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speaker up from
it's like the greatest hits of imls um

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one of matt birnbaum's counterparts who
is now at the department of energy but

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as we're getting started and switching
out the decks

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i'm going to make a few kind of standard
announcements

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we are recording and we will be putting
these

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recordings up on our website as soon as
we can make them accessible it usually

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takes about a week
if you haven't already done so we'd love

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to have you add your
state initials to your zoom name so we

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know where everybody's coming from
we'd ask you again to mute your

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microphones when you're not speaking or
asking a question

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and again once the sessions start we'd
love to have the chat

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primarily focused on clarifying
questions that we can raise up towards

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the end of sessions to be sure they get
answered

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you will have a chance to talk to each
other today during the programmatic

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topics
so if there's any rogue terry dubose out

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there we're hoping to get your name
changed to your actual name today

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and i'll follow up with a few of you if
i see i see you in the

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roster but let me turn it over now to
our our first speaker of the day who's

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going to continue on the theme of
five-year evaluations from yesterday

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uh many of you have met lisa frahill at
our past

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imls conferences and this is bittersweet
because lisa frahill

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is not an imls employee at this juncture
she's now with the department of energy

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and
we miss her so much but we are indebted

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to her
for committing to coming back and being

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part of this conference with you
because which is a very important

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perspective
on the data files that will enhance

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and be part of your evaluation
so lisa welcome so glad you're here

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thanks it's great to be here and i once
again appreciate being included

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in the librarian reindeer games um
this has been an awesome community to

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work with
and i miss all of you so very much

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so i am going to attempt to share my
screen i actually have multiple

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computers going right now
so hopefully something's gonna work

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and so um let's see so you should be
able to see my screen right now

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and i will go ahead and place this into
presentation mode

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let's see okay
so thank you again terry and um

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i hope that this um presentation helps
the notion here i'm building upon

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what matt said yesterday in terms of
the kinds of data that you need and that

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you're going to be passing along
to your evaluators i like to think of

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your evaluators as kind of like your cpa
right who's going to do your taxes you

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take a big box of stuff you put it all
together and

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that's what you're going to pass along
to to them

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so that they can work some magic and
help you to hopefully find some

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hidden gems things that maybe you hadn't
even noticed yourself

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and so the spr data is really going to
be

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only a small part of all of that but
hopefully with what we are putting

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together
um the work that your evaluator will

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need to do with these data will be
you know a little bit easier a little

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bit more facilitated
so hopefully we can there we go so i'm

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going to start with a quick introduction
to the spr i'm not going to spend a lot

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of time on it
i'm going to talk about the analysis

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files that are going to be made
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there's going to be data file
documentation associated with them um

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there'll be an excel file at the
activity level

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that will be state specific then
there'll be a project level file that'll

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have
all states and then upon request

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data on detailed budget information can
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you know you can get that a separate
worksheet with

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that for your evaluator and the notion
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all of these can be you know merged
together

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or you know synced up with each other
but it helps

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to keep all of the variables separate
i'm going to go over just

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a couple of sample use cases and then
you know to hedge you off at the pass

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here
uh the program officers are going to be

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in touch with you about how to obtain
your data and these files

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so um still figuring out how to
get my slides to advance so you might

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know that the spr
has all of these very interesting

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analytical capabilities there's 14
intents those get rolled up to these six

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focal areas
and as matt said yesterday those six

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focal areas
really represent areas of national

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interest
right but the 14 intense are a little

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bit more detailed
and that's likely to be something that

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your evaluators will be interested in
but you can get even more detail about

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those intents because of these subjects
there's going to be as i mentioned two

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excel files an
activity level file and a project level

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file and that's important because
there's different types of information

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that are available
in those files so

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as matt was saying yesterday the six
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really represent those national level
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if you've you know been at the lsta
conference meetings

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this has been how we've rolled
everything up to these six focal areas

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but the system is designed to have
a number of intents right these 14

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intents
that are supposed to align with the

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five-year state goals that when the
system was being designed that was the

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notion was that people could find
anything that their their projects were

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doing in in those areas
and so being able to go back and forth

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and using that crosswalk that matt
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two will be very handy for your
evaluators

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in order to do that um there's um
and then in addition as i mentioned

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there's a
a lot of other ways that your evaluators

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will find the inter
data in the sp are very interesting as

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you all know
you can enter data about subjects and

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there's like 37 choices plus other
and it's these drop down menus and you

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pull those down and you enter
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right and then that happens at both the
project and the activity levels

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and so that means that there can be a
whole lot of um

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of different in uh subjects associated
with a project and assisted with an

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activity
there's also free form keyword entry

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namely the tags that you can put in and
based on what i've seen over the years

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there's a whole plethora of things
and ways that people enter data there so

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what that means is that
that's going to be a conversation you

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may want to have with your evaluator
if there are like specific tags that you

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have instructed people to enter about
projects over the years

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to help make locating information
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so you're going to want to make sure
that you have a list of those for your

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evaluator
the tags are included in the excel file

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the actual text but there's no flags for
the tags and i'm going to talk about

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flags
in a minute um and then the evaluators

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will be able to use
your tags so they'll be it you know so

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the notion is is that
like i said there's many hundreds of

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different tags in there
but you maybe have only used a handful

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of those so
they will be able to search for them

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relatively easily
and do what they need to and these are

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all the subjects i won't
spend all the time going over this and

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then another thing that happens in the
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our projects get flagged as exemplary
and i put the definition from the

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documentation here it's a project the
state library agency considers the best

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worthy of
imitation or having the most impact such

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projects show innovation and vision
impact on targeted audience service to a

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new population group
and so there's many projects that could

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be flagged as exemplary but as we've
seen it's only about

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you know 10 or 20 percent given um any
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and again being having a conversation
with your evaluator about what

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what you were looking for in exemplary
projects would be very helpful for them

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so i've got a couple of methods notes
and i keep

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using this word flag okay so we use
flags and i was going to use the word

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quantoid but i was
not everybody knows what a quantoid is i

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am a quantoid
um that doesn't mean i come from outer

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space um
the social scientists add these flags so

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that it makes it wicked easy
to identify things in a data file and

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the notion is is that when you have a
multiple choice item

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you split it up into a series of yes
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there's 14 intents but sometimes people
can pick

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more than one intent for a project
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you'll have an intent one and an intent
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so instead of having an intent one and
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oh look there's
this one on this i've made it so that

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there's 14
flags one for each intent so if a

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project has two intents
it'll have a one for each of those

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intense and zeros for the others
so it really will make pivot tables in

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excel
wicked easy for um for your evaluator

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flags were added on intents subjects
and focal areas in the project file and

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they were added for subjects on the
activity file so any item that they

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could pick more than one thing
has been made into a flag with the

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exception as i mentioned
of the tags so tags are not flags flags

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are separate
your evaluator a couple of other things

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that are
kind of getting set up with these

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particular files
is the notion that you might want your

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evaluator to do some benchmarking
namely how does my state compare to

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similar others
and so over the years what we have

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done is looked at
sort of groupings of slaa state library

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agencies by sort of the relative size
of the um of the allotment

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and so there's a variable that'll let
your evaluator say oh

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i want to look at other states that are
in the same sort of general ballpark

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of allotment size and that variable is
in there

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um and that's at the project level
there's also

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all of these flags so they could say hey
i want to look at specific types of

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projects
and then the other kind of thing that

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you might want your evaluators to do
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even though you don't have to do it it
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the fy 15 to 17 data as a grouping
to compare to fy 18 and 19 that you will

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have available
and so the fy 17 15 to 17 data are

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included
and again there's another variable added

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so that you can easily
extract those particular cases from the

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fy 18 cases
so again it's a methods note for your

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evaluators
and as a quick note at the

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within the context of the data file only
high level data about budget namely

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total budget
lsta budget and you know that the match

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is included
not all of the detailed categories

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those detail categories are what's in
that optional file that you can request

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so these are the three um
groupings that we've used over the past

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few years
and i'm just i'm not going to go through

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this slide but this is this
this is the data from last year's um

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talk
again you might want to have your

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evaluator
comparing to similar others

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um and then to give you a sense
of the what's kind of coming down right

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now
and terry and um her crew can talk to

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you a little bit more about
the um at a glance dashboard that's

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going to be available
that does some of this roll up for you

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it in a visual
on the dashboard terry did you want to

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jump in or did you want madison to jump
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to talk about this are you going to do
that later i mean i could just say

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right now thank you lisa that this um
this was deployed last week so it is now

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in the live
spr if you go to your

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login page once you enter your
credentials

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you should be able to scroll down and
see several charts

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the first that's visualized on this
screen is your state goals by lsta

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funding
and then you'll have a chart state goals

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by
match funding you'll have a chart state

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goals by
lsta funding and match together and

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state goals by the number of projects
and you should be able to also export

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this using the little download
button in excel if you say wanted to get

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it out of the system and give it to an
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so it's just an at a glance where you
are in this cycle and if you change the

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fiscal year drop down
which is at the very top of the

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dashboard you can actually go back to
the prior five-year cycle if that

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interests you
thank you terry

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so what is going to be in the data files
so a quick way to understand it is that

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over the years we've had a number of
different

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questions that we've posed
and been able to present information for

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at the national level
out of the spr um you know what was the

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topic area of a project
why was it done how much was spent what

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lessons did we learn
was there a target audience what was

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done how was it done
where did you do it and what are the

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results and
there's a number of different spr

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variables that are associated with
you know these different types of

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questions and what we've done here is
giving you a little chart to show you

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what's in the project level file that's
related to these topics

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and what's in the activity level file
and this is why

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this is actually a chart that i've used
at ripple this year

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where i had the privilege to do a
session on using federal data and we

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talked about the spr
and what i would really recommend that

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you
make emphasize to your um evaluator is

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that
the spr is a highly

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hierarchical system meaning that there
is data at the project level

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and data at the activity level and if
you were to click on

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download the csv it doesn't play well
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and you get kind of i hate to say it
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these nicely designed
excel files so that it keeps these two

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levels of analysis and the variables
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at those levels separate for you and for
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and hopefully that will make their lives
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what are the kinds of things well at the
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these data to do analyses like this
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and look at it by focal area they also
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granular
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by intent or by subject right
so they'll be able to do those kinds of

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analyses
that will be able to answer some of the

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questions the retrospective questions
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namely you know has there been a
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on specific groups in the activities
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data on budget is not available at the
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is available at the project level and at
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so that's going to be the way they do
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so it's going to be possible to do those
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an example of what they'll be able to do
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right how were they distributed across
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you know in this case this is a graphic
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basically that the mix of activities
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years when you're doing an evaluation
when there's a lot more planning and

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evaluation going on surprise surprise
right so this is the kind of thing

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they'll be able to drill into this
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level file
so there's going to be data file

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documentation and what data file
documentation does is it describes

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what's in the data files says what the
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gives descriptions how the variables
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some variables that i alluded to earlier
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other kinds of variables
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constructed
then it also will include some helpful

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hints for analyzing
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spr system
some data quality information over the

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years that has been
one of the really rich outcomes for me

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in attending the lsta conference and
presenting these data

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is to hear back from you all about some
of the issues that you have

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at the other end of the data spectrum
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you know that has really informed my
understanding of the what

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some ins and outs are related to the
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as well there'll be descriptive
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data file documentation frequencies on
the categoricals and means and standard

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deviations on continuous variables
um there's a handout that um i

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have been theoretically working on but
uh it will get done i promise you um

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and it will provide some information
about some other kinds of data sources

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that your evaluators might be able to
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to be able to provide benchmarking in
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for your evaluation and so these are
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a variety of tools and data
sets out there that are

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have become actually relatively easy um
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going to be forthcoming and again
the program officers will be able to

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help you with this
when the time comes so i'm going to give

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to show you how subjects can be used to

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then how those can align with state
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and then how evaluators might use some
other information that's in the spr

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files to see if there are important
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so the first one you know last year what
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couple of years
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um and drilling down into them and i've
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like spr work and then matt and the
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michelle and dennis have been doing more
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related to understanding you know what
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exemplary
and that kind of process really

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illustrates this
this um method that matt was talking

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about yesterday in terms of
yes there's going to be some statistical

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analysis some high level information
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and you're going to be able to extract
some of that out of the spr

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but in addition to that you're really
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with a lot more qualitative work
in terms of these focus groups

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interviews and so forth to be able to
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a little bit more about how the you know
how things happen with the projects so

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in the spr we can get high-level things
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how many projects what kind of budget
what was the median budget

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how many of these projects were
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looking at digital literacy
so your evaluator might use can use the

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subject flag
for digital literacy in the project

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level file to look up
the budget whether it was exemplary and

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compare you know your state's
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other states
but then they can also look in the

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activity level file
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they can see
well which groups might have been the

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beneficiaries of
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literacy
and as you can see age groups 50

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of um the public of the activities that
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had age groups as the focus right then
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and then you can also see on the pie
chart you know that the library

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workforce
was just under a third of the um

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projects or activities i should say that
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focused on in the um it
you know in this particular case and the

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other thing that i'm showing the blue
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so digital literacy accounted for you
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about 50 of digital literature literacy
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and that's a lot higher than all
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or activities tended to focus less so on
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than activities overall
so you can kind of get a little bit of a

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benchmarking there to see sort of
the you know how how this compares to

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the larger
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two your evaluator might ask you
hey have you had any projects funded by

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your state that
did evaluations already and then are

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there any lessons that have been learned
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and the spr has a nice
handy way to identify those projects

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um there are a number of evaluation text
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that are included in the um files
and what we've done is we've included

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some of this
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is going to serve
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they can then
track down have sort of oh so here's a

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list of a handful of
projects that they might want to dive

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into these might even be people that
they want to reach out to for a specific

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kind of focus group or
other kind of interview so the project

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level file
will have variables that will help your

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evaluator
to be able to know the projects that

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have already had some kind of evaluation
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so i kind of this is really just a
brainstorm on

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communicating with your evaluator and in
terms of the kinds of things that we've

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prepared
just communicating with them that we've

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got some excel files that will
facilitate the use of the spr data

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and that it includes documentation that
fully describe the data that

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and that they should read that
documentation that the spr this i said

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before
is a hierarchical data set so do not

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download from the web
projects have multiple activities and

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that's something that
can be a little frustrating if you click

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the i want to get a csv
um and that there are different kinds of

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data in the project and activity files
so that slide where i

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summarize the questions the kind of
variables and

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whether it's in the project or activity
file that will be very useful for them

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and that will probably find its way into
the data file documentation

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um how your state uses the term
exemplary as i mentioned

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earlier you know being able to describe
how your state's using it

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and what the purpose is will be
important for your evaluator

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there's a lot of tags associated with
projects and

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again messaging to your evaluator about
which of those are important to you in

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your state
will be um will will help them quite a

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bit
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you know well what
insights about future directions for

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lsta programming are suggested in
spr data and you know this is where

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um this in the activity files there's a
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of outputs notice i didn't say outcomes
and i know yesterday we have a

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bit of a discussion about the difference
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and i i think in this case in the in an
spr statistical sense you want to think

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of those
as outputs and those are things like you

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know if
say digital literacy were important in

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your state and so it would be important
to show

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how many you know um
how many people attended the the

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different
programs that were run associated with

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digital literacy
you can get that out of the str so being

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able to capture a few nuggets of
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from the spr to help you know sort of
give that high level

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will be very useful for your evaluators
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you know they're gonna need to really
look at your goals as matt was saying

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yesterday look at the goals
think through the retrospective

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questions and then take a look at
okay so here are the tidbits of

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information we can pull out of these
sdr data that will shed some light on

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that
and then the questions you might

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consider in addition in order to
scope the evaluators tasks with the svr

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how important is it
to be able to compare current projects

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with those of the past beer state
so if if for you you know what is behind

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us does not matter
then you tell your evaluator just work

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with fy 18 and later data
but if you are interested in you know

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really kind of
having them make that comparison of 15

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to 17 as a group
versus you know the current time that

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and there might only be a goal or two
that you want that

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then you need to communicate that with
them and then that way you don't they

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don't go down some
some um extra path that they don't need

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to or
they do if you want them to and then how

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important
is it for that for you to have you know

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comparisons
of your state with others and again if

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your answer to that is
you know it only matters what's going on

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here
and we don't really want to do

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benchmarking then
again that will make their task a whole

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lot easier and a lot less data that
they'll need to pull

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out of the str so um that's
a quick rush through what's in the files

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and what's coming
um your way related to this uh

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i know that the work the spr data are
important

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um to be able to extract but hopefully
the work that we've done

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will will facilitate that and provide
your evaluators with a lot more time to

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spend doing those
qualitative things that you'd really

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like them to do
so um i'll open it up to questions i

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didn't see um i'm gonna
open up the chat here and see what i can

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see
we do have a bunch okay um

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and i i think maybe the place to start
even though it's a little out of order

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was just a clarification of what imls is
going to provide and for what years

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because i mentioned something that is
part of the spr right now that you can

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download
but i don't want that to be confused

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with what lisa is talking about which is
a much more robust

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set of files that we are still in the
process of sort of packaging up so that

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we can send them out to you
um those will just be for the year the

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fiscal years
18 and 19 and because you haven't yet

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reported your fiscal 20
data um the states will be responsible

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for
providing that to evaluators

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so actually yeah i think that's an
important distinction

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what we've got is excel files
so they are actual excel files that they

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can open up
and run pivot tables with so

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there'll be an excel activity level file
an excel project level file

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and there'll be data file documentation
to go along with it

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the reason that we opted for excel here
is that you know yesterday there was you

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know some discussion
a little bit of discussion about you

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know the blend of methods that you'll
use and what kinds of skill

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sets and it's pretty clear after
you know i've been i've been at imless

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for about four years doing
these kinds of analyses and excel

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is a lot easier for people to access
um i work in s in spss

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other people work in sas or stata or
other specialized software

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but for the kinds of analyses that you
need

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for your evaluators to do excel is
perfectly acceptable there's no there's

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not a lot of real sophisticated
statistical analysis

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that needs to be done for your
evaluations

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now clearly somebody could do that but
this is to

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provide them with those tools and this
way the

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the files i've already got have fy 15
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and that's why i was saying being able
to tell them whether you want trend data

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or not
um is important because they can just

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ignore the 15 to 17 data
or you'll have it handy um i

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did that because it means that then
you'll have data that's completely

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harmonized with
how we've done analyses over the past

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four years at imls so um
so like i say using the 15 to 70 data

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may be something you don't do
but it's very easy to pull that out

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because there's a separate variable
um so it's separate excel files they

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won't have to
get you know you can just um you know

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send it to them
in an email um you know and be able to

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00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:53.279
do that
does that does that clarify well enough

447
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.519
for everybody i know that that was
that is a a big question you know given

448
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.840
that like you can go online and look at
some stuff

449
00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:04.640
but this is meant so that you have a
designed data file

450
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:10.000
that has is already harmonized
i think that's really great lisa and we

451
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.559
did have one follow-up question just
about the 2020 data set which is

452
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.880
confusing to be to be sure you will not
report

453
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:24.960
on your 2020 federal award in the spr
until the end of the calendar year this

454
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:29.039
year
we as imls don't typically review that

455
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:33.039
and sort of package it up or have it
available for public consumption

456
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.640
until march well guess what that's when
your evaluations are due

457
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:42.559
so we can't give you the 2020 data
in time for this to be useful so you are

458
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.519
going to have to be responsible for
providing it to your evaluator in some

459
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.120
more expedited fashion and if you need
our help

460
00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:54.880
with you know modes of doing that we can
talk to you about it

461
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:59.039
but the the two kind of premier years
that we're going to be able to give you

462
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:03.360
our 2018
and 2019 and even now we have states

463
00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:07.120
with extensions
and so packaging up the full national

464
00:32:07.120 --> 00:32:11.519
data set has been very tricky this year
so you just um bear with us you know

465
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:15.760
we'll get it to you as soon as we can if
you have evaluators on board right now

466
00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:19.600
let us know and we may be able to you
know send you something early

467
00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:23.440
but those data files will come later

468
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.720
and are there other questions i'm trying
to look at the chat

469
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.799
um on one of the other computers i've
got

470
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.919
there was one um that was partially
answered in the chat but i think for the

471
00:32:39.919 --> 00:32:43.200
sake of the recording it would be
helpful to surface it again and this is

472
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:48.720
kind of a state perspective
so what role do lsta coordinators

473
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:53.519
generally play in evaluation
as compared to say a state librarian or

474
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:57.679
chief officer
we have a first-time lsta coordinator in

475
00:32:57.679 --> 00:33:02.880
this and just wondering what the role
would be and so a few states responded

476
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.519
the coordinator's role is in in michigan
for example to manage and oversee the

477
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.120
evaluation and report back to the state
librarian

478
00:33:11.120 --> 00:33:16.080
um and let's see iowa the lsta
coordinator does the majority of the

479
00:33:16.080 --> 00:33:18.880
work
there may be other examples i haven't

480
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.919
seen yet
but if anybody else wants to chat to

481
00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:26.159
that or speak to that
and we will have a chance in the

482
00:33:26.159 --> 00:33:29.519
breakout sessions
if you are part of the evaluation

483
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:39.840
breakout session to sort of further
probe into that

484
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.919
oh and just doing a quick time check we
have about 10 minutes

485
00:33:45.919 --> 00:33:50.320
uh left so we're in pretty good shape

486
00:33:50.840 --> 00:33:55.919
great so
are there any other questions that folks

487
00:33:55.919 --> 00:33:59.600
have about
the files or the work or what you can do

488
00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:01.919
with them

489
00:34:02.399 --> 00:34:06.799
uh lisa i just wanted to say um as
somebody who

490
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.800
in a very amateur way tried to work with
a raw

491
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:18.639
spr data tongue to make sense of it
i have a very newfound appreciation for

492
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.240
all that you have to do the reason why
they're not completely ready kind of

493
00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:24.720
popped out of the oven as soon as we
accept the spr

494
00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:29.839
is because translating so many of those
conditional

495
00:34:29.839 --> 00:34:34.000
you know was this offered statewide yes
no and all of those kinds of

496
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.399
if this then that threads of logic and
trying to get them

497
00:34:38.399 --> 00:34:41.919
to make sense in a more linear xl
fashion

498
00:34:41.919 --> 00:34:46.560
is no small undertaking so i am
appreciative of the packaged

499
00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:51.119
data files and i think that's also it
emphasizes the difference between

500
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.839
sort of the abbreviated dashboard
version that kind of mostly focuses

501
00:34:55.839 --> 00:35:00.079
on um dollar amounts because those are
easy to kind of point

502
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.440
a one-to-one relationship with and
that's why those are more

503
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.800
immediately available to users compared
to

504
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:11.599
the big the big thing that you're you're
putting together

505
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.880
i did see a question we missed on our
first pass

506
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:20.560
from debbie debbie musselman sorry can
the evaluators have direct access to the

507
00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:23.839
spr
the answer is yes we did see a number of

508
00:35:23.839 --> 00:35:28.320
evaluators last
cycle that had access to the spr

509
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.880
and this time we have a new user role
that might facilitate that a little

510
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:37.839
better it's the slaa
project data entry which imls would need

511
00:35:37.839 --> 00:35:41.200
to set up for you
um so once you have an evaluator on

512
00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:45.280
board if you want them to also have
access to the system itself

513
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.720
in addition to these data files you're
going to be getting just be in touch

514
00:35:48.720 --> 00:35:51.920
with your program officer

515
00:35:53.680 --> 00:35:58.160
and terry uh correct me if i'm wrong
what we would give them x

516
00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:04.960
the event outside evaluate access to
would be the data for that particular

517
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.480
state
correct correct although

518
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.680
lisa has one data file that has some
national

519
00:36:11.680 --> 00:36:16.079
level data in it lisa do you want to
just touch on that again

520
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.760
yeah the the project level file and i'll
go

521
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.520
i'm trying to think of the best slide to
use

522
00:36:23.520 --> 00:36:30.640
go down to this one here
so um i know it may be kind of small but

523
00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:36.160
um so in the project level file
there's high level budget information

524
00:36:36.160 --> 00:36:40.720
just total budget
lsta budget match as well as some

525
00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:44.720
information about the lessons learned so
being able to

526
00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:49.200
sort of pull some of that up for the
state that might be something

527
00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:52.960
that evaluators could really do is say
hey well

528
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.960
you know ours you know your state just
did all of these projects related to

529
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.640
digital literacy you know let's see if
there are other

530
00:37:00.640 --> 00:37:04.160
projects in the spr that have done
something as well

531
00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:07.280
you know as sort of to provide some
lessons that

532
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.200
could help in the future with our
state's projects

533
00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:15.119
so this that project level file will
have other state information

534
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.640
and again that's why you know i
mentioned that one of the things you'll

535
00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:24.880
need to do is to give your evaluator
instruction about the extent to which

536
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.400
you want them
to look at other states or not look at

537
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:32.320
other states
and you know again there could be some

538
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.040
usefulness that they could pull out of
that

539
00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:39.440
or it could be that you just don't want
them spending all their time doing that

540
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.040
right so it's you know you got to think
about how much time

541
00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:48.480
you really want them to allocate to to
different tasks

542
00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:53.440
the activity file is just too big to
give you all of the data for all the

543
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:56.880
states
and so that will be just for your state

544
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.200
only

545
00:38:00.160 --> 00:38:04.800
and david in florida is saying so to
clarify

546
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.800
you imless are going to make appropriate
data files available to us

547
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.040
if so how will that be delivered

548
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:18.800
and the answer is yes we are and
i imagine we would deliver it much like

549
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.599
we did last time
where your program officer would send

550
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:26.800
you an email attachment
or two if there

551
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.760
if the files are too large for some
reason we'll figure we'll figure out

552
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:34.960
something with our um with our shared
file system

553
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.400
yeah i don't think the files are too
huge

554
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.520
i think that um worst comes to worst you
could always zip them

555
00:38:41.520 --> 00:38:45.520
up as well um you know i think that the
the

556
00:38:45.520 --> 00:38:49.599
you know i think that's part of the why
reason why i kept the activity files

557
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.839
specific to a state
um but still some states that have a lot

558
00:38:53.839 --> 00:39:01.839
of activities
could have a pretty good sized file

559
00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:08.800
i have another question
around the state role do state data

560
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.400
coordinators have a role in the
evaluation in some of the states

561
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:20.160
and we welcome you in the chat box to
answer if that is the case for you

562
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.119
there's another question to clarify the
time frame

563
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.480
for delivering the files at this point
you know having seen that most of your

564
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.119
evaluators would be coming on in the
summer

565
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:39.839
or fall we would anticipate maybe
you know very late spring or summer

566
00:39:39.839 --> 00:39:42.880
being able to make these files available
to you

567
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.400
again it is a little dependent right now
on all the

568
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.839
extensions that we had for this year due
to cobid

569
00:39:49.839 --> 00:39:53.359
and getting the national level data
packaged up

570
00:39:53.359 --> 00:39:59.119
so that we don't have to keep resending
you different iterations of files

571
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.839
there were a few responses to the data
coordinator question

572
00:40:07.839 --> 00:40:12.000
in california the state data coordinator
is part of the working group

573
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:16.800
in maine the data coordination
the data coordinator is part of the

574
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.000
evaluation of the program

575
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.880
but not the overall evaluation we
probably didn't read that out very

576
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.920
clearly
um and in missouri

577
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.040
our state data coordinator gathers the
data yearly and we do a cumulative

578
00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:36.560
evaluation each year to see how we were
doing and meeting our five-year goals

579
00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:41.040
so kind of incremental participation

580
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:53.839
any other questions for lisa we still
have a few minutes

581
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:00.960
lisa any last thoughts as you um impart
your wisdom upon our

582
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:08.160
group of states i have been
it has been a an honor to work with all

583
00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:11.520
of you
um in the past four years you know and

584
00:41:11.520 --> 00:41:15.040
those of you who are new
this is one of the most awesome

585
00:41:15.040 --> 00:41:19.280
communities
um to be able to be a part of and

586
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.720
um i really you know i remember we went
through

587
00:41:22.720 --> 00:41:26.079
right when i came on board at imls we
went through the

588
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:30.240
first five year evaluations and did some
you know some work with that

589
00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:33.440
and i'm hoping that the work that i've
done here

590
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:37.520
will really help your evaluators spend
less time

591
00:41:37.520 --> 00:41:42.000
trying to figure out the data and more
time really answering those key

592
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:46.160
questions
that um that matt laid out yesterday and

593
00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:49.920
that will
really help to ramp it up so uh thank

594
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.760
you all so very much for letting me
play your reindeer games this has been

595
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.079
awesome

596
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.880
thank you lisa you're getting a lot of
love in the chat box right now

597
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.560
and cry we add to it yeah we miss you so
much

598
00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:09.599
um department of energy better
appreciate you that's all i'll say

599
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:15.280
um we are headed into a break right now
a 10 minute

600
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.000
all right well welcome back uh michelle
and i are now going to give you a guide

601
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.319
through the components of developing
your new five-year plan

602
00:42:24.319 --> 00:42:29.280
for the years 2023 through 2027
seems so far away but it's right around

603
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.880
the corner
um so this is your opportunity to map

604
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.640
out your next big adventure

605
00:42:39.359 --> 00:42:44.160
so uh the purpose of your five-year plan
will establish your goals

606
00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:49.520
for the next five years uh you'll use
your evaluation that matt and dennis

607
00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:56.240
talked so wonderfully about yesterday
to inform this new plan and most plans

608
00:42:56.240 --> 00:43:01.280
though are written in house
by the slaa not by a third party

609
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.800
but if you do con if you do prefer to
contract out

610
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.880
um for your new plan you may do that if
you like

611
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:12.160
we do have guidelines available to help
you develop your new plan

612
00:43:12.160 --> 00:43:16.240
on our website and we have a link to it
here in the slide and also a nice

613
00:43:16.240 --> 00:43:21.280
screenshot of what that looks like this
guidance is very similar to the guidance

614
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:25.359
that we've had for previous plans not a
whole lot has changed

615
00:43:25.359 --> 00:43:29.920
and it also includes citations to the
statute that has established the plan

616
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.280
requirements
if that is something of interest to you

617
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.200
so feel free to reference that document

618
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.040
so what constitutes your five-year plan
where these are the the

619
00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:46.800
the each of the components in order of
the plan

620
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.560
um there's a lot of them we're only
going to be talking about a few of the

621
00:43:50.560 --> 00:43:55.280
heavy hitters
which are these that we have here

622
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.800
and there's the ones that people
typically have questions about uh and we

623
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.839
want your five year plan to be specific
enough

624
00:44:01.839 --> 00:44:05.359
for you to use as a guide for the next
five years something you can refer back

625
00:44:05.359 --> 00:44:09.920
to and keep you on track
but we also want it to be broad enough

626
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.760
for you to allow flexibility
when new situations and new

627
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.760
opportunities arise
such as a pandemic or something like

628
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:20.079
that

629
00:44:20.560 --> 00:44:23.920
so the first the first section we're
going to talk about is

630
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.160
is your needs assessment uh now this
needs assessment should be based on your

631
00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:31.920
most recent evaluation that you will
have completed at this point

632
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.520
along with any additional complementary
data you may have

633
00:44:35.520 --> 00:44:38.720
as well as any advisory input that you
collect

634
00:44:38.720 --> 00:44:43.359
uh you should describe those data
sources and the processes you use to

635
00:44:43.359 --> 00:44:48.240
document your state's needs
as well as those audiences to whom those

636
00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:52.319
data sources apply to
um you'll also want to discuss the

637
00:44:52.319 --> 00:44:58.240
methods used for the data analysis
and how you may periodically update

638
00:44:58.240 --> 00:45:02.560
your state's knowledge of the library
services needs

639
00:45:02.560 --> 00:45:06.160
now uh you'll hear us say this a lot you
heard us say it

640
00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:10.160
in the evaluation uh presentations but
it's really important to engage your

641
00:45:10.160 --> 00:45:16.240
stakeholders in this needs assessment
and really throughout the entire plan

642
00:45:16.839 --> 00:45:20.640
process now next we have our plan goals
and these goals

643
00:45:20.640 --> 00:45:25.040
are really the backbone to your
five-year plan and the most important

644
00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:28.160
part and
really the only part of your plan that

645
00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:33.359
we would consider to be in stone
all goals must stress must address needs

646
00:45:33.359 --> 00:45:37.839
that align with the lsta priorities
and that's outlined in the statute and

647
00:45:37.839 --> 00:45:43.040
each goal should address
at least one need that came through in

648
00:45:43.040 --> 00:45:47.119
that needs assessment
we found that we want you to keep the

649
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.280
verbiage in your goals
pretty short pretty succinct um and

650
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.760
we've also found that
fewer broader goals are better uh you

651
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.760
can see that this
graph here on the right shows the

652
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.280
difference
uh in the number of goals between the

653
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:09.119
2013 plan that you all developed
versus the 2017 plan uh you can see that

654
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.640
in
2013 two states had as many as eight or

655
00:46:12.640 --> 00:46:17.520
nine goals
but by the time we hit 2017 uh

656
00:46:17.520 --> 00:46:23.359
those went down and we only had a few
states in the six to seven

657
00:46:23.359 --> 00:46:28.560
range of number of goals we think that
the sweet spot for the number of goals

658
00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:32.720
you should shoot for
is three to four that seems to be your

659
00:46:32.720 --> 00:46:35.520
best bet

660
00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:41.359
uh now for projects now we we talk about
how

661
00:46:41.359 --> 00:46:45.200
your your goals should really be kept
broad where your projects

662
00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:49.200
is uh it's an opportunity for you to get
more specific

663
00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:54.800
with with what's in your plan um and
your projects should be included in the

664
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.040
narrative of each
goal now when discussing your project

665
00:46:59.040 --> 00:47:03.680
you need to explain what will be done
for whom and the expected outcomes of

666
00:47:03.680 --> 00:47:06.480
those projects
you'll also want a timeline of

667
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.319
activities throughout that entire
five-year period

668
00:47:10.319 --> 00:47:14.720
now do not feel pressure at all to
include every single project you're ever

669
00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:18.319
going to do
um in your five years this is really

670
00:47:18.319 --> 00:47:22.960
just a sample
um and and it's it's good to include

671
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.000
projects that you know uh that you you
do

672
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:30.720
on a standard basis and and from year to
year kind of stay the same

673
00:47:30.720 --> 00:47:35.119
and those can be both sub-granting
projects or statewide projects

674
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.240
it can be anything from you know state
databases summer reading

675
00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:41.680
courier services ebooks or talking books
um

676
00:47:41.680 --> 00:47:47.680
but again like this is nothing in stone
this is just a sample

677
00:47:49.359 --> 00:47:52.480
next we have the coordination efforts
section

678
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.599
and by coordination efforts what we mean
by that is partnerships or

679
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.200
collaborations
that will help you complete uh the

680
00:48:01.200 --> 00:48:04.640
projects that you mentioned
and therefore will help you obtain your

681
00:48:04.640 --> 00:48:08.160
goals
so specifically in the statute it

682
00:48:08.160 --> 00:48:11.280
outlines
for you to talk about coordination

683
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.640
efforts around elementary and secondary
education

684
00:48:14.640 --> 00:48:18.800
early childhood education workforce
development

685
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:22.000
but really you can include any other
activities um

686
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.599
such uh that you know libraries are are
best at like economic development and

687
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.839
community development
or your health literacy programs uh just

688
00:48:31.839 --> 00:48:36.480
any uh intended partnerships you have
with with other agencies in your state

689
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.720
and again by efforts this doesn't uh
have to include

690
00:48:40.720 --> 00:48:45.920
only uh pro uh
partnerships that you have a written

691
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:48.880
agreement with these can just be your
best of intentions

692
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.000
the efforts you plan to make and they
can change

693
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:56.000
along the way in those five years

694
00:48:57.200 --> 00:49:02.480
now the famous crosswalk the crosswalk
you heard it mentioned in the evaluation

695
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.000
and it's also a requirement as part of
those coordination efforts

696
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:12.800
um in your new plan um and this
one here is an example of a crosswalk

697
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:17.839
that you could include uh this crosswalk
connects your plan goals to those

698
00:49:17.839 --> 00:49:22.319
six item-less vocal areas and it will
ultimately be very useful for you uh

699
00:49:22.319 --> 00:49:25.599
when inputting those projects into the
spr

700
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.280
this example here is just one way to do
it you don't have to do it

701
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.720
this way and you can actually look at
your current plan

702
00:49:32.720 --> 00:49:36.880
um your 2018-2022 plan that has a
crosswalk in it

703
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:41.599
and if that formatting of the crosswalk
is is what works best for you you can

704
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:45.839
totally continue to do it that way but
it needs to include

705
00:49:45.839 --> 00:49:49.839
your state goal the corresponding focal
areas

706
00:49:49.839 --> 00:49:53.520
sample projects within that vocal area
and the aligned

707
00:49:53.520 --> 00:49:59.839
imls intent now i'm going to pass it on
to michelle

708
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.200
hi everyone in your five-year plan there
is a section

709
00:50:05.200 --> 00:50:09.760
or information on how you're going to
evaluate your plan

710
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.760
your plan has goals and each one of
those goals

711
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:19.119
should have objectives and indicators an
objective is what you want to achieve

712
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:25.839
an indicator is specific information
that tracks a project's success so for

713
00:50:25.839 --> 00:50:30.960
example
an indicator would be let's say 25 out

714
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.440
of
50 adults who attended a basic computer

715
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:40.240
literacy skill class at 50 percent of
those participants

716
00:50:40.240 --> 00:50:44.240
at the end of the class could say they
used word

717
00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:48.160
that's an example of a working indicator
indicators

718
00:50:48.160 --> 00:50:53.520
help you answer the question what does a
successful project look like

719
00:50:53.520 --> 00:50:57.440
how will you know if it's successful
well that's your objective

720
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:06.319
and your indicators you also need
to include outcome-based evaluation

721
00:51:06.319 --> 00:51:10.720
questions
and the spr requires it and it requires

722
00:51:10.720 --> 00:51:13.040
it for questions for projects that
include

723
00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:19.040
public and library staff instruction
content creation or acquisition and

724
00:51:19.040 --> 00:51:23.040
planning
and evaluation and

725
00:51:23.040 --> 00:51:27.280
you need to include the methodology you
would use to evaluate

726
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:32.400
your projects the state program report
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727
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.559
has has that information in it allows
you to put some information

728
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.960
in it and on the imls website we have
copies

729
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.520
of survey questions that you can use to
provide you with that kind of

730
00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:49.119
outcome data

731
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.400
next please

732
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.520
stakeholder involvement you've heard
about it and how important it is

733
00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:06.319
by stakeholder involvement we mean how
will you involve your beneficiaries the

734
00:52:06.319 --> 00:52:10.400
staff
project partners mls in essence

735
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.680
your full community in the process for
your plan

736
00:52:13.680 --> 00:52:17.440
be specific about who your partners your
stakeholders are

737
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.400
and how they how you'll be involved
involving them with your work

738
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:26.800
um are you working with schools other
state agencies i know a number

739
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.480
are other partners for instance the
center for the book or humanities

740
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.400
council
many of you are using them some states

741
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.440
like kansas have regional library
networks

742
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.440
how will they be a part of this head
start etc

743
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.960
how will you involve them will you have
meetings

744
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:51.040
phone calls surveys
and how will you be transparent will

745
00:52:51.040 --> 00:52:54.880
your process be in your library
newsletter for instance

746
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.680
as mentioned in the lsda statute you may
establish an advisory

747
00:52:59.680 --> 00:53:04.400
council that represents the library's
entities in your state to help

748
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.359
communicate with stakeholders that
represent

749
00:53:07.359 --> 00:53:13.200
library entities including public
school academic special and

750
00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:17.440
institutional libraries
and libraries serving individuals with

751
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:20.800
disabilities
so if appropriate involve your state

752
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:26.000
library advisory council
next

753
00:53:26.839 --> 00:53:32.160
communication very important no
publicity means more than just posting

754
00:53:32.160 --> 00:53:36.160
it on your website
think about the promotion of both your

755
00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:39.599
plan
and your projects and what you're doing

756
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.200
be as detailed as you can
is there a role for some of your

757
00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:47.760
stakeholders in communicating
with others about the plan the state

758
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.079
library must describe the channels
that will be used to communicate to

759
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:56.800
stakeholders
the content of the state plan as well as

760
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:03.280
any results products processes
or benefits each state library

761
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.319
receiving a grant must make the state
plan

762
00:54:06.319 --> 00:54:12.480
readily available to the public and
share it with the library community

763
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:21.920
monitoring yes mostly what i do
but you also have to do it state

764
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:26.400
libraries must describe the procedures
for tracking performance

765
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.680
of the projects and the progress you're
making

766
00:54:29.680 --> 00:54:33.040
towards what you said your goals were in
the state plan

767
00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:37.200
this monitoring should comply with the
reporting requirements related to the

768
00:54:37.200 --> 00:54:41.280
state program report
and can include pre-award risk

769
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.839
assessments which i know a number of you
do

770
00:54:43.839 --> 00:54:47.680
site visits or even virtual check-ins or
desk

771
00:54:47.680 --> 00:54:50.960
visits which are good during this time
when

772
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:55.680
many people cannot travel i'll be doing
those myself

773
00:54:55.680 --> 00:54:59.520
this year with a number of my states

774
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:09.040
your new plan must be submitted to imls
by june thirtieth twenty twenty two

775
00:55:09.040 --> 00:55:12.160
i am a less than has ninety days to
review

776
00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:17.760
and we may ask for some changes similar
to how we asked for changes in your sbr

777
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:21.440
report
have after review on mls will send

778
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:26.559
official letters of approval
and your new plan will go into effect on

779
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:31.920
october 1st
2022 imls does take your

780
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.000
plan once it's approved and we post that
on our website

781
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:39.440
which is included on our website's your
state

782
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:42.880
page on our website

783
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.400
now your plan has been accepted and
approved that's the one you're running

784
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.359
under
and now what maybe you want to make a

785
00:55:53.359 --> 00:55:58.559
change two years in
only substantial changes need to be

786
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:03.280
approved
by imls and those would be like a change

787
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:08.720
in one of the goals small changes
like deciding not to run a particular

788
00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:13.280
project do not need
imls approval it'd be good to tell us if

789
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.400
you want to
but you don't need our approval if you

790
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:22.559
need to make a change in your goals
you must submit that amendment to imls

791
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:28.799
by april 1st april 1st is specifically
mentioned within the statute

792
00:56:28.799 --> 00:56:32.960
and imls again he has 90 days to review
that change

793
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.359
and approve your revised plan which
would go into effect

794
00:56:37.359 --> 00:56:43.040
on october 1st so now we have a poll

795
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.920
and we can post that up how much change
do you anticipate

796
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:59.839
in your overall plan

797
00:57:23.040 --> 00:57:27.839
still getting some answers

798
00:57:28.640 --> 00:57:35.599
and i also see a question in the chat
while we're waiting from leah larson

799
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:39.920
should we be referring back to our
current five-year plan to do our

800
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.520
five-year evaluation

801
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:54.400
well um madison do you want to uh
answer yes yes yeah i mean i was going

802
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.040
to say yeah

803
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:02.000
yeah and by the way leah no question is
stupid

804
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:06.640
believe me if you're thinking it
somebody else is thinking it as well

805
00:58:06.640 --> 00:58:10.240
so that's the whole point of having a
training session if we thought we knew

806
00:58:10.240 --> 00:58:11.920
it
you folks knew it all we wouldn't be

807
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:17.680
doing this so
thank you for asking me a question

808
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:23.520
and i think we're coming close to
sharing the poll results do you want to

809
00:58:23.520 --> 00:58:27.760
cover that madison
i can't see the poll oh okay then i

810
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:33.760
guess i'll cover it
okay what we have is virtually unchanged

811
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:40.480
only 11 states or 12 percent of you
will be virtually not changing much of

812
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:43.440
what you have in your current five-year
plan

813
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:51.359
51 of you said somewhat changed
or 57 significantly changed

814
00:58:51.359 --> 00:58:55.280
six of you will be doing that and that's
about seven percent of our

815
00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:00.480
um participants and not sure yet that
that's understandable you don't have

816
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:05.359
your evaluation yet
22 answered that or 24

817
00:59:05.359 --> 00:59:10.000
of those participating in the poll

818
00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:17.440
okay i'm going to stop sharing the
results

819
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:22.480
and i see a question in the chat because
we can take questions now

820
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:26.960
regarding revision to the five-year plan
can you request substantive changes more

821
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:32.400
than once during the plan
um yes um

822
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.920
there there's no limit on
changing it it's just the deadline for

823
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.119
april 1st of a particular year that
you'd have to

824
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:47.119
submit and of course when we're saying
uh substantial changes we're talking

825
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:53.520
about a change in the goal
and um sometimes that happens i mean

826
00:59:53.520 --> 00:59:57.440
it's not unheard of
for instance you get a new governor and

827
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:01.359
all of a sudden
um the governor is putting additional

828
01:00:01.359 --> 01:00:04.160
money
state money towards a particular thing

829
01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:08.000
and you're thinking hey
i think we should change our goal or i

830
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.880
think we should
put more money towards some other

831
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:14.240
project and a lot less than something
else uh

832
01:00:14.240 --> 01:00:18.160
that's and you feel you need to change
your plan

833
01:00:18.160 --> 01:00:22.400
and go for it you know and this is where
we dialogue

834
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.799
you know

835
01:00:25.520 --> 01:00:28.880
people aren't used to it they're used to
having a five-year plan it's a working

836
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:32.079
document
it's not a do it and keep it for five

837
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.680
years and don't touch it
um as a number of your colleagues have

838
01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:38.720
said
they at the end of every year look at

839
01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:41.680
what what they've done
and how they're working towards their

840
01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:45.599
particular goals and each state
approaches approaches their five-year

841
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:50.799
plan differently some people load up
in the first year of the five-year plan

842
01:00:50.799 --> 01:00:54.880
all their literacy projects and in the
second year they do something else

843
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:58.319
third year do something else other
people do a little of

844
01:00:58.319 --> 01:01:02.240
a number of different types of projects
throughout the five years

845
01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:05.760
so you'll see that once you see the
five-year plans while the current ones

846
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.240
are currently up on our
imls website but everybody has their own

847
01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:14.079
style
and it's also the chiefs decision and

848
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.680
the state library's decision as to what
direction you want to go and how many

849
01:01:17.680 --> 01:01:22.000
goals you have
so um you know those are the things that

850
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:26.400
can color
um you know what your decision and what

851
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:31.839
you're going to do on your plan
for purposes of the recording uh leah

852
01:01:31.839 --> 01:01:36.079
asked when folks
start working on their five year plan

853
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:39.200
and it looks like a
many states say that they work on their

854
01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:43.280
five-year plan concurrently with their
five-year evaluation so you're kind of

855
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:47.680
doing both at the same time
right and some people have a separate

856
01:01:47.680 --> 01:01:51.200
plan besides the lsta plan so you have a
state plan

857
01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:56.160
and sometimes the terminology you use
are are a lot of the things that are

858
01:01:56.160 --> 01:02:02.079
meaningful in your state so um
we don't hand you a template on that we

859
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.839
tell you the outline of
what is required in your five-year plan

860
01:02:05.839 --> 01:02:09.839
but we don't
tell you how um

861
01:02:09.839 --> 01:02:14.079
specific language you need to use we
just tell you you need to address

862
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:18.160
stakeholders etc and the other topics we
talked about

863
01:02:18.160 --> 01:02:21.760
and just think about it i'm not
surprised that 22

864
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:26.240
states are not sure if they'll be
revising it there's been a lot of change

865
01:02:26.240 --> 01:02:30.319
going on we had covid
uh we don't have the new census figures

866
01:02:30.319 --> 01:02:35.280
that's going to change
things um technology has been changing

867
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.640
things
so um for instance the talking book

868
01:02:38.640 --> 01:02:43.280
program has changed a lot
over the last few years and so you have

869
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.720
to think what will that be like in five
years from now

870
01:02:46.720 --> 01:02:51.200
so there's a number of different factors
that will be coming into play

871
01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:54.880
uh as well as your state budget and what
you think your funding is going to be

872
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.839
for the state library as you develop
your new plan

873
01:02:57.839 --> 01:03:02.400
right this is a time check yeah we're
right at 2 15. so

874
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.520
michelle we're going to transition into
your panel now

875
01:03:05.520 --> 01:03:12.160
great and while that's getting set up
um if there's any other questions that

876
01:03:12.160 --> 01:03:17.839
madison maybe wants to
tackle on the five-year

877
01:03:18.240 --> 01:03:22.400
i don't see any current ones in the box

878
01:03:22.720 --> 01:03:26.880
and our three our three panelists are
here we've checked for them

879
01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:35.520
right okay um can i start in
go ahead okay well to give you an idea

880
01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:39.359
um
why are we doing this particular topic

881
01:03:39.359 --> 01:03:45.119
well unless you've been under a rock you
might have missed that ala and many of

882
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:47.920
our professional organizations are
talking about

883
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:52.480
cultural diversity and inclusion and
it's so much so that it's also

884
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:59.039
shown up in our cares act and in arpa
and your regular lsta program has always

885
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:04.079
said that you should not be
discriminatory etc so we thought this

886
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.160
would be a great time to
talk to you about working with native

887
01:04:08.160 --> 01:04:12.799
american and native hawaiian tribes
and so what we're going to do here in

888
01:04:12.799 --> 01:04:16.799
this particular session
is have a panel discussion i'm going to

889
01:04:16.799 --> 01:04:21.839
start off with some information on
other imls grants that you might want to

890
01:04:21.839 --> 01:04:25.599
know about
then turn it over to our panelist and

891
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.319
then i'm going
i'm going to introduce to each one of

892
01:04:28.319 --> 01:04:32.559
them now
each of the three speakers and at the

893
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:39.280
end after dale is finished speaking
we'll take questions so let me introduce

894
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:46.160
our speakers our first speaker is
mary villegas mary has

895
01:04:46.160 --> 01:04:51.920
since 2006 worked at the state
arizona state library as a library

896
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.039
consultant
providing outreach and support for

897
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:58.240
tribal libraries
in addition to managing the state

898
01:04:58.240 --> 01:05:04.559
library's statewide electronic resources
mary has a bachelor of science in

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01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:10.319
finance and a juris doctor
from arizona state university prior to

900
01:05:10.319 --> 01:05:14.240
joining the state library she worked in
the telecommunications industry for over

901
01:05:14.240 --> 01:05:18.000
nine years
managing financial operations human

902
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.440
resources
and other internal operations she also

903
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.559
worked with the arizona commission of
indian affairs

904
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.760
as a visit business development
representative

905
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:32.400
and taught indian law at a local
community college

906
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:38.640
our second speaker era
from boys was a montana state library

907
01:05:38.640 --> 01:05:43.599
commissioner
from 2014 to 2020

908
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:48.880
and state library commissioner chair in
2019

909
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:53.440
she has worked 11 years at the blackfeet
community college library

910
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:57.760
and the last four of those have been as
director

911
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.799
aaron is an active member of the library
community

912
01:06:00.799 --> 01:06:06.480
and is currently vice president of the
american indian library association

913
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:14.480
and also serves on the advisory board
for ala president julius jefferson jr

914
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:18.319
dale savage is the head of the library
development bureau

915
01:06:18.319 --> 01:06:23.119
in new mexico he comes to the new mexico
state library from the arizona state

916
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.839
library
where he served for eight years as a

917
01:06:25.839 --> 01:06:30.799
continuing education coordinator
prior to that he was the la paz county

918
01:06:30.799 --> 01:06:33.599
librarian
and the director of the parker public

919
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.880
library a library journal five-star
library

920
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.039
he's a graduate of the university of
arizona

921
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:45.119
s-i-r-l-s program and works at various
branches

922
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.440
in the pima county public library while
working on his library degree

923
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:53.520
he has served on the maricopa county
library council continuing education

924
01:06:53.520 --> 01:06:57.760
committee
and is a founding member of the asla

925
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:02.079
professional development committee he
served four years on the mpla

926
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.680
board in five years on the asla
executive board

927
01:07:05.680 --> 01:07:12.839
in 2016 dale was the recipient
of the as was newton and betty rosenwick

928
01:07:12.839 --> 01:07:18.079
distinguished service award for 10 years
of service to libraries and librarians

929
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:25.440
of arizona prior to becoming a librarian
dale worked for 25 years as a linguist

930
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:29.200
anthropologist supporting mother tongue
literature and

931
01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:35.440
literacy in mexico belize guatemala
and the philippines so now i'm going to

932
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:43.599
give a little introduction
to an overview um next slide

933
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:46.799
just just to give you the big quick
picture

934
01:07:46.799 --> 01:07:51.680
there's 574 recognized tribes by the
federal government

935
01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:57.119
and over 5 million people call
themselves

936
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:03.119
native americans or native hawaiians
when i put this slide together i just

937
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:06.880
thought i want to make it quick
and clear one of the key places you can

938
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:12.400
go for information is the bureau of
indian affairs they have a bureau of

939
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.799
indian affairs tribal leaders directory
which i have a link here to

940
01:08:16.799 --> 01:08:20.159
that's a great place to find out for
instance that there's

941
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:25.839
five uh federally recognized
indian tribes in maine they're not all

942
01:08:25.839 --> 01:08:29.040
out west folks
there's one in florida for instance or

943
01:08:29.040 --> 01:08:32.000
one in virginia
you can find that out in the name of the

944
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.560
person the next link the native american
organizations to know

945
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:42.960
is just a quick link to um
a number of other organizations uh

946
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.880
native american organizations that you
can work with or partner with

947
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:53.279
next slide imls
offers the native american library

948
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:57.359
services
basic grants these grants are six

949
01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:01.520
thousand to ten
thousand dollars uh they're for one year

950
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:06.400
there's no cost share and they're
non-competitive grants

951
01:09:06.400 --> 01:09:09.920
used to support existing library
operations and maintain

952
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:13.679
core library services they can be used
to buy library

953
01:09:13.679 --> 01:09:17.759
materials fund salaries and training
provide internet content

954
01:09:17.759 --> 01:09:23.600
connectivity and computers or develop
public and private partnerships

955
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:26.799
the deadline the next deadline is april
16th

956
01:09:26.799 --> 01:09:31.120
and just to give you a sense of this in
2020

957
01:09:31.120 --> 01:09:39.920
there were 172 applications and in 2020
19 there was a 188 and both years

958
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:44.319
all of those applicants received funding
so the money is there

959
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:52.000
we'd love to see applications next slide
the native american library enhancement

960
01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:57.920
grants are ten thousand to a hundred
fifty thousand dollars they cover a two

961
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.000
year period again no cost share
but these are competitive nationally

962
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:05.120
competitive
and they cover preservation and

963
01:10:05.120 --> 01:10:09.199
revitalization educational programming
or digital services

964
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:13.199
the deadline for this program is may
11th

965
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:16.800
and to give you a sense of how many
applications mls gets

966
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:24.800
in 2020 we had 33 applications
and or 34 applications 33 of them

967
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:30.000
received funding
and in 2019

968
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:37.840
21 of the 33 applicants received funding
next slide

969
01:10:38.320 --> 01:10:42.960
we have a special pro program called
native hawaiian library services

970
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:49.679
enhancement grant this is 10 to 150
000 dollars again two years not

971
01:10:49.679 --> 01:10:55.120
uh no cost share and it is competitive
nationally well competitive within

972
01:10:55.120 --> 01:10:58.320
hawaii
um competitive grants that enhance

973
01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:02.400
existing services or
implementing new library services and

974
01:11:02.400 --> 01:11:06.880
they can do preservation of
revitalization educational programs and

975
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:11.520
digital services
deadline for this is may 11th and there

976
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:14.880
were eight
applicants in 2020 and three received

977
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:19.520
funding
and in 2019 all three applicants

978
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:25.199
receive funding
next slide

979
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:30.480
we also have funding at imls for native
american native hawaiian

980
01:11:30.480 --> 01:11:37.199
museums grant funding here is five
thousand to a hundred thousand it can be

981
01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:41.280
up to two years the grant period
there's no cost share and this

982
01:11:41.280 --> 01:11:45.040
particular program supports
indian tribes and organizations that

983
01:11:45.040 --> 01:11:49.120
primarily serve and represent them
in sustaining heritage culture and

984
01:11:49.120 --> 01:11:53.360
knowledge through exhibits
educational services programs

985
01:11:53.360 --> 01:11:56.800
professional development
and collection stewardship and the

986
01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:00.400
reason why i mentioned this one is i
think it's important because

987
01:12:00.400 --> 01:12:04.159
uh cares and arpa mentioned working with
museums

988
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.000
and it i think it's good for people at
the state libraries to be aware

989
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:15.440
of what we actually people can get from
imls besides the lsta funds in 2020

990
01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:19.600
there were 21 of the 27 applications
were funded

991
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:25.520
and in 2019 18 of the 29
applications were funded the deadline

992
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.640
for the museum program
is november 15th

993
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:34.960
so now i'd like to turn over our
discussions next slide

994
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:41.840
to mary villages mary
thank you good afternoon everyone my

995
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.840
name is mary villegas
and i just wanted to share this picture

996
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.159
of you a
picture with you it's a picture of my

997
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:50.640
grandmother she's the one in the blue
dress

998
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:54.560
and she's at a sunrise dance and a
sunrise dance is a coming-of-age

999
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.159
ceremony for young women
and this is on the saint carlos indian

1000
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.600
reservation and i like this picture
because i think it

1001
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:06.880
this picture represents how cultural
culture brings communities together

1002
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.760
next slide please

1003
01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:15.360
so when working with tribal communities
i think it's a good idea to understand

1004
01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:18.400
the big picture
and also understand a little bit of the

1005
01:13:18.400 --> 01:13:23.679
history when working with
tribes in your state first

1006
01:13:23.679 --> 01:13:27.840
as we all know there's been a long
history of federal and state governments

1007
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.960
not working well with our tribal
communities

1008
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:37.600
in fact it wasn't until 1975
that the self-determination act um came

1009
01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:40.400
about
and it allowed tribes to start

1010
01:13:40.400 --> 01:13:44.960
contracting with federal government
uh to administer their own private owned

1011
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:50.239
programs and services
so tribes at that point could actually

1012
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:54.320
have their own tribal schools they
didn't have to send their kids to the

1013
01:13:54.320 --> 01:13:57.440
bureau of any affairs schools
they could have their own roads

1014
01:13:57.440 --> 01:14:00.560
departments they didn't have to rely on
the bia

1015
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:06.480
so this was a time a critical time when
self-determination really came about and

1016
01:14:06.480 --> 01:14:11.280
tribes
could start um managing their own people

1017
01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:15.280
and their own tribes they didn't have to
depend on the bia

1018
01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:18.719
and there are some considerations that
that i kind of

1019
01:14:18.719 --> 01:14:22.000
look at when i work with tribal
communities uh

1020
01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:25.040
and and hopefully this might resonate
with some of you

1021
01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:31.440
and the big one is is tribal culture
tribal culture is is is critical um and

1022
01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:33.840
we need us
and i think libraries can support tribal

1023
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:37.679
culture by
um helping them with getting books for

1024
01:14:37.679 --> 01:14:41.440
their libraries that
tell the history but when you're working

1025
01:14:41.440 --> 01:14:45.840
with tribes as far as tribal culture
um the takeaway from this is when you

1026
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:50.640
work with individuals
don't impose what you your beliefs are

1027
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:54.400
on
um tribal folks and the one i hear a lot

1028
01:14:54.400 --> 01:14:57.040
is
oh well they have their arms crossed

1029
01:14:57.040 --> 01:15:01.360
they must not be happy
or they're not looking at me or they

1030
01:15:01.360 --> 01:15:05.760
seem distracted and so maybe they're not
you know this isn't of interest and

1031
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:09.679
that's not the case
uh there are different there's just a

1032
01:15:09.679 --> 01:15:16.320
different culture and and don't impose
maybe what you think is appropriate and

1033
01:15:16.320 --> 01:15:20.960
and think that they're not responding to
you um as far as tribal laws

1034
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:25.199
um the takeaway from this is
understanding that tribes often have

1035
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:30.560
different um procedures that may
hinder a process so for example if

1036
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:33.840
you're working with the tribe they might
say well we can't do this

1037
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:37.040
and that might be because they have a
tribal law in place

1038
01:15:37.040 --> 01:15:40.239
in addition they might have different
holidays

1039
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:43.679
that they recognize a lot of tribes do
not

1040
01:15:43.679 --> 01:15:47.760
recognize um columbus day and there's a
reason for that

1041
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:52.640
so understand that they might be open
when when you're closed

1042
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:55.679
um as far as federal laws this is a big
one

1043
01:15:55.679 --> 01:15:58.719
uh when you're working with the tribe on
a project

1044
01:15:58.719 --> 01:16:05.840
there are so many hoops that tribal life
tribes have to jump through they have to

1045
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.120
follow
numerous acts like the endangered

1046
01:16:09.120 --> 01:16:14.000
species act
um the endangered flower act

1047
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:18.640
that could and there's just so many
things that could tie up a project

1048
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:23.120
that you might think well it's just too
hard to work with the tribe

1049
01:16:23.120 --> 01:16:27.760
well it might be but i would just say
understanding this ahead of time might

1050
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:32.880
make you less frustrated
um and an understanding of

1051
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:36.880
how even it's frustrating for them i
used to work for a reservation and used

1052
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:41.679
to get so frustrated
um as far as state laws in arizona we

1053
01:16:41.679 --> 01:16:45.520
don't have a state law that defines what
a library is so it gives us a lot of

1054
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:50.480
flexibility
on helping tribes tribal libraries

1055
01:16:50.480 --> 01:16:54.159
and to take away from this as far as
state laws think about the

1056
01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:59.440
other entities as far as you have your
states you have your counties and you

1057
01:16:59.440 --> 01:17:03.440
have your cities
and a lot of times at least in arizona

1058
01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:06.880
counties provide services for our tribal
libraries

1059
01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:10.000
for example we have some awesome county
libraries that

1060
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:13.760
actually include tribal libraries in
their ils

1061
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.120
they pay partial the part of the salary
for some our tribe

1062
01:17:17.120 --> 01:17:20.480
of our tribal librarians they also help
them do

1063
01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:24.239
e-rate or help them do their annual
library statistics so

1064
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:27.280
so these are things i think you want to
know um

1065
01:17:27.280 --> 01:17:32.000
if you're going to provide outreach and
service to your tribal communities

1066
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.480
next side please slide please and this
is arizona

1067
01:17:36.480 --> 01:17:42.000
we have 21 federally recognized tribes
but we have 22 tribal communities

1068
01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:47.760
and and it's important to understand
again understand who you're serving in

1069
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:51.199
arizona
we don't have a lot we don't we only

1070
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:55.600
have one treaty tribe
that's the navajo nation and we don't

1071
01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:59.280
have
chiefs we we have tribal chairmen

1072
01:17:59.280 --> 01:18:02.960
and these are just some things you might
want to know before you

1073
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:07.600
you you know maybe um um
stick your foot in your mouth when

1074
01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:12.080
you're working with a tribal community
understand what what what the lexicons

1075
01:18:12.080 --> 01:18:15.840
are
and the proper terminology uh we have to

1076
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:21.280
18 tribal libraries
and in arizona 27

1077
01:18:21.280 --> 01:18:24.960
of the land is tribal land that's a lot
of land

1078
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:30.719
and um and also to put in perspective
the navajo nation which is in the upper

1079
01:18:30.719 --> 01:18:33.920
um
north uh the upper left-hand corner

1080
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:38.800
right-hand corner
they are the size of delaware and

1081
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:45.199
um it's it's it takes a lot i mean
to to get to wrap your head around it

1082
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:50.000
there's two light tribal libraries
in that community and and they're the

1083
01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:54.960
size of delaware
it's it's it's a lot of um

1084
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.560
it's it's pretty much a desert for
libraries just as it is a food desert

1085
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.760
um because they hardly have any grocery
stores too

1086
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:06.880
and and a takeaway for myself when can
you go the next slide please

1087
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:13.440
when i work with tribal libraries um
is is face-to-face communication

1088
01:19:13.440 --> 01:19:16.640
and that's what we do in library
development and this is a

1089
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:21.679
uh organizational chart of of the
library development division

1090
01:19:21.679 --> 01:19:26.719
we are under the secretary of state this
is just one of the divisions

1091
01:19:26.719 --> 01:19:30.480
all our divisions support tribal
libraries in arizona

1092
01:19:30.480 --> 01:19:34.480
our braille and talking book library
they provide services our research

1093
01:19:34.480 --> 01:19:38.400
library has provided consulting services
when one of our tribes

1094
01:19:38.400 --> 01:19:43.360
had questions about preservation
but in library development we do a

1095
01:19:43.360 --> 01:19:48.960
number of things ranging from digital
inclusion to tribal outreach

1096
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:52.880
project support and i'll get on that
just one second early education

1097
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:57.199
continuing education public library
stats and lsta grants

1098
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:01.679
but i think the linchpin to all of this
is project support

1099
01:20:01.679 --> 01:20:04.960
and that means that when we work with
tribal communities

1100
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:08.000
if you don't get a telephone call back
immediately

1101
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.400
or an email back immediately it doesn't
mean they're not interested

1102
01:20:12.400 --> 01:20:15.760
it means their internet could be down or
it means

1103
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:19.760
the wind blew and it blew down their
satellite and that's why you haven't

1104
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:23.120
heard
from their um an email from them that

1105
01:20:23.120 --> 01:20:25.360
actually happened with one of our tribal
libraries

1106
01:20:25.360 --> 01:20:29.040
their internet their internet was down
for six weeks

1107
01:20:29.040 --> 01:20:33.600
so i think it takes patience and
understanding

1108
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:38.159
when you work with tribal libraries
there are most underserved communities

1109
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:44.239
in in the nation and covid
i think really put a spotlight on that

1110
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:47.679
unlike
public libraries uh they got to work

1111
01:20:47.679 --> 01:20:50.880
from home
they could telework that's not the case

1112
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:54.159
for tribal libraries
they might have internet in their

1113
01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:59.679
libraries but when they were sent home
we couldn't connect with them uh so i

1114
01:20:59.679 --> 01:21:03.360
think
going forward uh we need to recognize

1115
01:21:03.360 --> 01:21:07.840
that
um you know again they are are

1116
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:12.560
when when covet happened that um they
did not have the resources

1117
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:16.159
and we need to be able to support them
and i think that the libraries

1118
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:20.159
uh our state libraries can really
support those services

1119
01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:23.520
uh i'm gonna go ahead and hand it over
to aaron

1120
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:28.320
and if you have any questions i'll be
here at the end

1121
01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:35.760
hi so i feel like i have a very unique
take on this subject as i work in a

1122
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:41.360
tribal library i'm a tribal member
and i've had the

1123
01:21:41.360 --> 01:21:45.600
opportunity to work with the state
library in the capacity of it as

1124
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:49.520
commissioner
so next slide

1125
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:55.520
in montana there are eight federally
recognized tribes

1126
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:59.360
that's actually very new to us because
about a year and a half ago we

1127
01:21:59.360 --> 01:22:04.320
had the little shell tribe got federally
recognized after

1128
01:22:04.320 --> 01:22:09.520
years and years of trying to
have recognition from the federal

1129
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:16.320
government so
out of the eight at least seven of the

1130
01:22:16.320 --> 01:22:21.679
the tribal communities have libraries
on the flathead reservation there are

1131
01:22:21.679 --> 01:22:26.560
multiple public libraries
the college library and a couple of

1132
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:31.280
special libraries
school public libraries on the blackfeet

1133
01:22:31.280 --> 01:22:35.600
reservation there are two libraries the
college library and a branch of the

1134
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:40.080
county library
rocky boy only has their college library

1135
01:22:40.080 --> 01:22:44.159
fort belknap
as well fort peck their college library

1136
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:48.320
is actually merged with
the local county branch and so they

1137
01:22:48.320 --> 01:22:53.280
serve as both
public and the college library

1138
01:22:53.280 --> 01:22:56.320
and then down in southern montana the
crow reservation

1139
01:22:56.320 --> 01:23:00.080
and northern cheyenne they each only
have one library

1140
01:23:00.080 --> 01:23:06.080
through their tribal colleges
so seven of us have tribal colleges we

1141
01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:11.199
all have libraries
and so one of the

1142
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.320
one of the things that has been brought
to light

1143
01:23:14.320 --> 01:23:21.360
is that our
tribal college libraries are often

1144
01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:25.840
not just academic libraries we're often
serving our communities

1145
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:29.760
and in all the ways a public library
would serve the community

1146
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:34.480
but without any of the funding for the
public library

1147
01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:41.199
so we do as much as we can
with little to no funding as far as

1148
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:48.480
reaching out to our public and
next slide please

1149
01:23:48.480 --> 01:23:52.239
my work with the state library was
really

1150
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:59.360
eye-opening because as a tribal
um member and entity of a tribal library

1151
01:23:59.360 --> 01:24:05.920
i it was really great to know like why
we can't be denoted as as public

1152
01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:11.440
libraries why we don't get
state funding for per capita funding for

1153
01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:15.360
our libraries
and a lot of that has to do with what's

1154
01:24:15.360 --> 01:24:19.040
in statute
and so changing that statute would you

1155
01:24:19.040 --> 01:24:22.000
know can happen
it's just going to take a little bit of

1156
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:26.800
time and effort
um there has been effort to

1157
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:32.320
to adjust the state library standards
to make sure that the tribal libraries

1158
01:24:32.320 --> 01:24:36.719
also can meet those
and there are some things like having

1159
01:24:36.719 --> 01:24:41.679
community funding
like tax tax based funding a lot of

1160
01:24:41.679 --> 01:24:46.639
reservations
have a very um hodgepodge of taxable

1161
01:24:46.639 --> 01:24:52.560
land and so there's not a lot of taxes
and there's actually federal money that

1162
01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:55.040
gets pumped back into things like
schools

1163
01:24:55.040 --> 01:25:03.120
and local governments to um to help
because of the the taxable land issue

1164
01:25:03.120 --> 01:25:06.159
so that's you know one of the things
that we

1165
01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:10.480
we just can't do is we you know we don't
have a lot of

1166
01:25:10.480 --> 01:25:13.840
um we don't have a tax code on the
reservation

1167
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.280
and the the funds that are the lands
that are taxed

1168
01:25:17.280 --> 01:25:22.719
go to the county uh next site slide
please

1169
01:25:22.719 --> 01:25:28.320
but i definitely feel like montana does
an amazing job with our lsta funds as

1170
01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:34.400
far as reaching
every community on in montana

1171
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:39.840
tribes have never been tribal libraries
have never been

1172
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:46.400
not included in any of these initiatives
and there are other non-lsta initiatives

1173
01:25:46.400 --> 01:25:51.280
that the montana state library has
that also make sure that tribes are a

1174
01:25:51.280 --> 01:25:56.239
part of their advisory boards
or are often you know they're open to to

1175
01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.120
grant funding
and other things like that available

1176
01:25:59.120 --> 01:26:05.199
through the state library
so consulting everyone in the state

1177
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:09.440
is available to ask the consultant's
questions

1178
01:26:09.440 --> 01:26:15.840
share catalog there are three out of the
seven tribal college libraries that are

1179
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:21.040
part of the shared catalog
shared subscriptions this isn't always

1180
01:26:21.040 --> 01:26:25.840
lsta funds and
has in the past been um from a very

1181
01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:31.600
special funding source in montana
and that's a very uh volatile funding

1182
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:36.639
source so shared subscriptions kind of
come in out of vogue whenever we have

1183
01:26:36.639 --> 01:26:40.880
the money
um pilots so during covid

1184
01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:46.880
the hot spot lending pilot has been
very useful for at my community and i

1185
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:52.480
know that other tribal communities
have been a big part of the hot spot

1186
01:26:52.480 --> 01:26:56.719
lending
and the college got cares act

1187
01:26:56.719 --> 01:27:02.800
funding but you know in our community
there were still people who needed

1188
01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:06.639
internet access not
being able to you know come into our

1189
01:27:06.639 --> 01:27:10.000
library
and so the hotspot lending pilot has

1190
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:13.199
been great i'm
you know i think a lot of libraries not

1191
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.639
just the tribal libraries
are thinking about ways to maintain

1192
01:27:16.639 --> 01:27:21.520
those types of programs
there are things that our state is so

1193
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.040
large and so
varied as far as services things like

1194
01:27:25.040 --> 01:27:27.920
the
courier pilot didn't actually reach any

1195
01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:32.239
reservations
except the flathead reservation

1196
01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:38.000
um and so you know as far as
reaching out to the native tribes for

1197
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.679
courier of
um materials from library to library

1198
01:27:41.679 --> 01:27:44.400
that just was
it wasn't just our libraries that were

1199
01:27:44.400 --> 01:27:51.280
excluded in the courier project
so continuing education

1200
01:27:51.280 --> 01:27:54.800
everything is open and available to
everybody

1201
01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:59.920
and then the montana memory project
you know the state library is constantly

1202
01:27:59.920 --> 01:28:03.520
trying to
encourage more tribal content in the

1203
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:06.960
montana memory project

1204
01:28:07.360 --> 01:28:10.320
next slide please

1205
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:18.159
so who helps make those decisions
and i'm really happy to say that on

1206
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:23.040
every single one of these
um advisory boards task force

1207
01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:29.679
councils um that there
at least there's attempted um tribal

1208
01:28:29.679 --> 01:28:36.159
participation in all of these things
so if it's library specific

1209
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:39.920
there's always a spot for a tribal
librarian

1210
01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:48.800
within the network advisory council
on all task force there's always a spot

1211
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:52.800
there for someone who's working in a
tribal library

1212
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:58.719
just so that you know we have that voice
at the state library

1213
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:05.360
one thing that is hard to address
is the fact that a lot of native people

1214
01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:09.280
do not live on the reservations so how
you reach

1215
01:29:09.280 --> 01:29:15.360
all um native people within the state
when you know half of them live in the

1216
01:29:15.360 --> 01:29:19.760
cities and
you know in other other communities and

1217
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:25.280
you know my my advice for the state
library has always been to just

1218
01:29:25.280 --> 01:29:29.440
acknowledge that there are native people
outside of tribal communities

1219
01:29:29.440 --> 01:29:35.040
and to just continue to do the best to
serve every montanan

1220
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:39.360
so that concludes my part next slide
we'll

1221
01:29:39.360 --> 01:29:42.320
bring it over to dale

1222
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:52.239
hello everyone my name is dale savage
i'm happy to be here with you today

1223
01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:56.560
and i'm the bureau chief for library
development new mexico

1224
01:29:56.560 --> 01:30:04.000
and formerly worked with arizona and
i just want to say up front that

1225
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:09.840
that slide that mary had with the
four interlocking pieces and

1226
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.719
considerations in tribal library were
just to

1227
01:30:12.719 --> 01:30:17.520
underscore yeah things can be different
in different states but there was a lot

1228
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:21.760
of good material there for anyone who's
interested in working in tribal

1229
01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:25.120
libraries next slide

1230
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:36.239
okay and in arizona we have 19 pueblos
and those are designated with the uh

1231
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:41.199
with the diamond shapes 16 of those 19
have tribal libraries

1232
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:45.840
next uh there are two apache
reservations one in the far

1233
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:52.000
south mescalero
end up in the north in the central part

1234
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:58.320
of the state the hikoria
apache reservation and we also have a

1235
01:30:58.320 --> 01:31:03.120
significant portion of the navajo nation
in new mexico

1236
01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:06.800
there are 50 chapter houses in new
mexico

1237
01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:11.760
and they're scattered across the
portions of the reservation you see

1238
01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:17.440
there and there's also a
portion between the navajo indian

1239
01:31:17.440 --> 01:31:22.639
reservation in the far
northwest and the hikaria

1240
01:31:22.639 --> 01:31:26.400
that's called the checkerboard so
there's kind of an intermix between

1241
01:31:26.400 --> 01:31:30.080
private
and navajo land across there there's

1242
01:31:30.080 --> 01:31:34.159
currently
one official chapter house

1243
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:40.080
library on the navajo reservation
but one of the projects that arizona's

1244
01:31:40.080 --> 01:31:44.560
working on and we're also working on
is the navajo nation would like to

1245
01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:50.080
establish
uh libraries in those 50 chapter houses

1246
01:31:50.080 --> 01:31:55.440
that are in new mexico as well
next slide

1247
01:31:57.360 --> 01:32:01.920
uh significant issues that we have here
in new mexico

1248
01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:08.080
one is there really is a very strong
sovereignty of pueblos and tribes

1249
01:32:08.080 --> 01:32:13.360
and uh you might say it goes back to the
1680 pueblo revolt which

1250
01:32:13.360 --> 01:32:21.120
some people refer to as the original
american rebel revolution

1251
01:32:21.120 --> 01:32:27.199
the spaniards had penetrated
into northern new mexico uh prior to

1252
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:32.800
that
and in 1680 the pueblos rose up

1253
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:36.960
and they drove the spaniards out of new
mexico for 12 years

1254
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:42.159
and sort of reset the relationship
it still wasn't great when the spaniards

1255
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:48.880
were allowed to come back
in 1692 but it set a tone where

1256
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:56.159
um even as early as
in the 1860s president abraham lincoln

1257
01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:02.159
recognized the sovereignty
of the pueblos and gifted the pueblos

1258
01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:04.960
with
ceremonial canes that are still kept by

1259
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:11.760
the governors today
and the pueblo governors

1260
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:17.360
meet and meet annually and more
in new mexico there's a strong

1261
01:33:17.360 --> 01:33:21.760
legislative rep
representation of tribal members

1262
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:25.920
in new mexico and that really sets a
tone

1263
01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:32.719
uh there's also a state
uh state law that mandates that

1264
01:33:32.719 --> 01:33:39.280
government agencies here
cooperate and

1265
01:33:39.280 --> 01:33:46.000
work with the tribes and each year we
have to present a report on tribal and

1266
01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:50.239
state
collaboration so it there really is a

1267
01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:56.080
tenor and a tone here
uh for that one of the things that

1268
01:33:56.080 --> 01:34:03.280
uh mary alluded to in
new mexico in arizona rather is

1269
01:34:03.280 --> 01:34:07.600
the state laws aren't terribly specific
with regards

1270
01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:11.600
uh to libraries on the other hand new
mexico is a much more

1271
01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:19.199
uh bureaucratic state and there are
new mexico administrative codes that

1272
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:25.199
define what a library is that define
who's eligible for funding

1273
01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:29.199
and they can be very strict they can be
a barrier to establishing and funding

1274
01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:31.840
libraries
and in fact that's one of the problems

1275
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:38.159
that the navajo chapter houses
uh have right now there's a

1276
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:41.600
we're working to be as supportive as we
can

1277
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:47.600
but there's a fairly high barrier in
those administrative codes

1278
01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:54.719
as to what libraries actually are
eligible to receive funding

1279
01:34:54.719 --> 01:34:57.360
next slide

1280
01:34:58.480 --> 01:35:02.239
the services that new mexico state
library offers

1281
01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:05.440
to tribal libraries of course are tribal
library

1282
01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:11.920
our library consulting services
and we like arizona

1283
01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.280
actually have a position within library
development

1284
01:35:15.280 --> 01:35:19.679
for a tribal library's program
consultant

1285
01:35:19.679 --> 01:35:25.199
it's currently vacant and i'm feeling a
lot of those duties but

1286
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:29.360
it's one of the salient features within
new mexico salient enough

1287
01:35:29.360 --> 01:35:34.400
that we have one person who's dedicated
to work with each of those 19 pueblo

1288
01:35:34.400 --> 01:35:39.280
libraries
there's also funding that's specifically

1289
01:35:39.280 --> 01:35:43.760
available
there's a state grants and aid program

1290
01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:46.239
uh
that currently provides about nine

1291
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:49.760
thousand plus
dollars a year uh to each of the

1292
01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:53.520
libraries
there are tribal libraries program

1293
01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:59.119
grants which again are
they're a line item in the state library

1294
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:03.679
budget
we have money set aside to give

1295
01:36:03.679 --> 01:36:07.520
grants specifically to libraries that
they can use on

1296
01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:11.199
salaries materials professional
development

1297
01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:18.719
things of that nature and
another feature of library funding

1298
01:36:18.719 --> 01:36:25.119
in the state of new mexico is every
two years the state legislature

1299
01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:32.159
votes on general obligation bonds
for public libraries school libraries

1300
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:36.880
tribal libraries and also academic
libraries

1301
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:44.560
and then in the next year that goes to
uh the public to either approve or not

1302
01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:50.239
approve the bonds
uh for example though right now

1303
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:57.440
the libraries have active uh
general obligation bond money from 2018

1304
01:36:57.440 --> 01:37:01.760
uh which amounts to anywhere from 39 to
42

1305
01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:08.159
000 uh per tribal library there's a
there's an allocation per library and

1306
01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:14.239
then there is a
a per capita amount that's also figured

1307
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:19.199
into the calculation
the 2020 go bonds

1308
01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:23.679
have not yet been totally allocated but
they're expected

1309
01:37:23.679 --> 01:37:30.880
uh to be worth 26 to 27 000
plus per tribal library

1310
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:38.639
and also the state of new mexico
two years ago established a rural

1311
01:37:38.639 --> 01:37:41.920
library's endowment

1312
01:37:42.080 --> 01:37:49.199
for communities with fewer than 3
000 people and that takes in

1313
01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:54.239
most but not all of the tribal libraries
in new mexico

1314
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:57.600
the eventual goal is to get 50 million
dollars

1315
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:05.360
in that endowment and the interest
once it rises to that would pay 40 to 45

1316
01:38:05.360 --> 01:38:11.040
000 a year per
library which would include the tribal

1317
01:38:11.040 --> 01:38:13.679
libraries

1318
01:38:14.719 --> 01:38:18.960
that's not fully funded yet but it's
something that the state has put out

1319
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:21.920
there
uh the state libraries also worked with

1320
01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:25.199
several tribal
tribal libraries on broadband and e-rate

1321
01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:29.520
initiatives
including helping to get fiber optic out

1322
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:33.360
to several of our tribal libraries
there's still several that are

1323
01:38:33.360 --> 01:38:38.639
underfunded for that

1324
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:42.800
i also wanted to mention that

1325
01:38:43.360 --> 01:38:49.520
michelle had asked us to comment on our
working with the tribal libraries

1326
01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:56.639
uh and one of the things that mary had
in her considerations was culture

1327
01:38:56.639 --> 01:39:01.520
and one of the things to realize uh

1328
01:39:01.679 --> 01:39:08.159
and it's
fairly salient here as well uh since

1329
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:13.520
there's so many pueblos
and uh different tribal culture is not

1330
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:17.520
the same
from pueblo to pueblo tribe to tribe

1331
01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:22.400
they're they're similarities
uh but it's not always the same and it

1332
01:39:22.400 --> 01:39:26.960
is
important to understand and

1333
01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:34.400
to get a grasp of what the
uh what sort of the cycle of life

1334
01:39:34.400 --> 01:39:39.360
among the pueblos and the tribes is
uh and in fact it's it's interesting

1335
01:39:39.360 --> 01:39:45.600
some of our tribal libraries
tribal librarians work in tribes

1336
01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:50.080
that are not their own and some of them
discover that you know the their

1337
01:39:50.080 --> 01:39:54.000
linguistic
and their cultural barriers that they

1338
01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.440
have to work with as well

1339
01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:02.880
but one of the big things and
pre-pandemic

1340
01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:07.119
was one thing the pandemic we're in now
is another

1341
01:40:07.119 --> 01:40:12.639
but it's frequent communication
as i said we have one tribal library

1342
01:40:12.639 --> 01:40:16.800
consultant
whose job it is to stay in constant

1343
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:22.800
contact with those 19
pueblo and tribal libraries but in

1344
01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:27.280
addition
our other library development staff

1345
01:40:27.280 --> 01:40:30.320
who work with state grants and aid who
work with youth

1346
01:40:30.320 --> 01:40:35.360
programs who work with the general
obligation bonds

1347
01:40:35.360 --> 01:40:42.000
each are in regular contact on those
areas and in fact pre-pandemic

1348
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:46.480
one of the things that we would do is
every two to three years

1349
01:40:46.480 --> 01:40:51.440
we would have a site visit with our
library development consultants

1350
01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:56.320
all of us sitting down at a tribal
library

1351
01:40:56.320 --> 01:41:00.239
at actually all of the libraries in the
state but tribal libraries

1352
01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:10.320
as well as the others and so
there's not just uh

1353
01:41:10.320 --> 01:41:14.639
frequent contact through one consultant
but all of our consultants

1354
01:41:14.639 --> 01:41:19.760
uh have very frequent contact uh another
excuse me i'm sorry i

1355
01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:25.040
we have uh just a minute left in this
session i hate to break it up but i just

1356
01:41:25.040 --> 01:41:30.239
wanted to do a time check
okay thanks and i think we can open it

1357
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:33.280
up for
questions i'm sure we can all say a

1358
01:41:33.280 --> 01:41:36.080
little bit more but i really want to
thank

1359
01:41:36.080 --> 01:41:42.560
mary aaron and dale for their wonderful
uh information on working with the

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01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:47.840
tribes
and we can take some questions

1361
01:41:55.119 --> 01:42:01.840
reading our state attorney general has
required us to use

1362
01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:09.360
okay our state attorney general has
required us to include in project

1363
01:42:09.360 --> 01:42:13.440
contracts a provision stating that any
court cases would be heard in the state

1364
01:42:13.440 --> 01:42:16.639
of oklahoma
court system we recently had one truck

1365
01:42:16.639 --> 01:42:19.520
that was going to receive funds dropped
from the program

1366
01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:23.360
as their leaders saw this as a threat to
their sovereignty what advice do you

1367
01:42:23.360 --> 01:42:27.920
have in navigating this situation
we want to remove all barriers possible

1368
01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:31.760
to funding access and project
participation

1369
01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:38.400
any of our speakers want to uh
respond sure this is mary and and

1370
01:42:38.400 --> 01:42:42.320
i completely understand that so one of
the things we went to

1371
01:42:42.320 --> 01:42:47.119
is it might not be similar is we set up
accounts at the state library level

1372
01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:53.040
and then we drop and shipped products to
a tribe to get rid of the middleman or

1373
01:42:53.040 --> 01:42:55.760
to to not have to go through tribal
finance

1374
01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:59.920
so that was one workaround

1375
01:43:07.280 --> 01:43:11.360
i don't think i'm seeing any more
questions

1376
01:43:11.360 --> 01:43:19.280
and we're getting right down to the
end here i really again can reiterate

1377
01:43:19.280 --> 01:43:22.239
you you
my speakers have been wonderful today

1378
01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:25.280
and i hope you all appreciate what they
had to say

1379
01:43:25.280 --> 01:43:29.119
uh right now we will be well let's say
this way

1380
01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:33.040
if we were actually in person you'd be
making your taxi

1381
01:43:33.040 --> 01:43:36.400
reservations and making sure you were
checked out of your room

1382
01:43:36.400 --> 01:43:39.520
so for now we're going to take a break
and

1383
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:44.000
return back at 3 10.

1384
01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:54.800
hope to see you then
welcome back welcome back uh and welcome

1385
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:59.520
to the virtual version
of programmatic topics uh this is our

1386
01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:04.320
conference classic and as we always want
to get you all together to discuss

1387
01:44:04.320 --> 01:44:08.159
great ideas about certain pressing
issues or

1388
01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:12.080
current events uh we got super
technically savvy

1389
01:44:12.080 --> 01:44:19.440
uh to be able to do this over zoom
and online so a huge shout out to uh

1390
01:44:19.440 --> 01:44:26.000
dennis uh can everyone hear me okay
yeah great thanks uh shout out to edis

1391
01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:28.400
for
for coordinating these these the

1392
01:44:28.400 --> 01:44:32.880
technical side
of things you won't see um so

1393
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:37.199
how how is this going to work we will
break you out into groups based on what

1394
01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:39.600
topics
you selected in your conference

1395
01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:44.000
registration form
and we have two rounds of of breakout

1396
01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:46.719
groups and there will be 20 minutes of
discussion

1397
01:44:46.719 --> 01:44:52.000
in each group uh you will be
automatically put into these groups

1398
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:55.679
and then after that time is up you'll be
automatically brought back

1399
01:44:55.679 --> 01:44:58.960
brought back into the larger group so
there's no need to think there's no need

1400
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:05.280
for you to do anything
um on your part in terms of where you go

1401
01:45:05.280 --> 01:45:09.840
you will need once you're in your group
you will need to designate one person

1402
01:45:09.840 --> 01:45:13.679
to take notes and report out on the
highlights of your discussion

1403
01:45:13.679 --> 01:45:18.639
and each group will also have an imls
staff member as a moderator

1404
01:45:18.639 --> 01:45:22.000
and that person will also have some
suggested questions to get the

1405
01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:25.920
discussion going
but really you can talk about anything

1406
01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:31.840
concerning that specific topic
now if you can please be sure to uh

1407
01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:35.840
turn on your video during the breakout
groups

1408
01:45:35.840 --> 01:45:39.440
um after the first breakout we'll have a
quick five minute break

1409
01:45:39.440 --> 01:45:42.960
and then we'll reconvene and do the
second breakout

1410
01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:46.000
now keep in mind if you registered late
or if you're

1411
01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:50.239
in the room as a terry uh you won't be
able

1412
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:54.639
to be put into a breakout room all
terries have to stay in the big group

1413
01:45:54.639 --> 01:46:00.239
um except for the real terry uh but uh
after the after the second breakout

1414
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:03.360
group um
we'll all reconvene together and those

1415
01:46:03.360 --> 01:46:07.679
people who were designated to report out
will will share with every on everyone

1416
01:46:07.679 --> 01:46:11.360
with uh what was discussed and you'll
have about three minutes

1417
01:46:11.360 --> 01:46:18.800
to do that so um
session one these are the the breakout

1418
01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:26.480
groups with the corresponding moderator
uh you'll notice that if you um

1419
01:46:26.480 --> 01:46:30.639
if you chose the working with partners
session as your first choice that we

1420
01:46:30.639 --> 01:46:34.880
we put everyone together into one group
for that and that will be in the second

1421
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.840
the second part but this was emailed to
you

1422
01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:43.360
beforehand but just as a quick refresher
these are the folks who will be assigned

1423
01:46:43.360 --> 01:46:47.600
to diversity inclusion
with laura

1424
01:46:48.080 --> 01:46:51.520
these will be the folks who are assigned
to lsda

1425
01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:56.239
virtual management with terry the real
terry

1426
01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:03.520
these are the folks who will be signed
exemplary projects with michelle

1427
01:47:06.320 --> 01:47:10.400
pandemic issues and ramifications will
be with me i won't be in your group

1428
01:47:10.400 --> 01:47:15.440
quite as automatically because i'm a
host but i'll get there as soon as i can

1429
01:47:16.639 --> 01:47:19.920
and then we have five year evaluations
with

1430
01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:24.400
matt birnbaum all right i think i'm
going to go ahead and pause the

1431
01:47:24.400 --> 01:47:28.880
recording
morning very briefly

1432
01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:33.520
to just review our next review groups
really quick

1433
01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:39.440
breakout session two we have uh the same
sessions with the same moderators along

1434
01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:44.639
with the new working with partners that
will be paired with dennis

1435
01:47:44.639 --> 01:47:47.679
for diversity inclusion these are our
folks in that breakout

1436
01:47:47.679 --> 01:47:51.840
with laura

1437
01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:57.520
virtual lsta management with terry will
be these folks

1438
01:48:01.280 --> 01:48:05.840
exemplary projects with michelle

1439
01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:12.719
pandemic issues with me

1440
01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:20.480
five year evaluations with matt

1441
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:25.199
and lastly working with partners with
dennis

1442
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:29.199
cool all right i'm going to pause

1443
01:48:30.400 --> 01:48:36.480
and now that i believe everyone is back
and apparently we've been recording that

1444
01:48:36.480 --> 01:48:42.080
whole time no i just i just started okay
no worries thank you all right great

1445
01:48:42.080 --> 01:48:45.440
we're gonna go with
uh the first two the first breakout from

1446
01:48:45.440 --> 01:48:48.639
diversity inclusion

1447
01:48:49.360 --> 01:48:52.960
whoever our reporter router is

1448
01:48:55.920 --> 01:49:00.880
well in in our group we didn't really
design one so

1449
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:07.920
i had a yellow pad so i took notes uh
so for the um diversion and inclusion

1450
01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:11.840
session
uh people talked about whether to add

1451
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:15.840
edi
to their sub grants and we we got into a

1452
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:18.960
discussion
of what unserved means whether that

1453
01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:22.560
extends to
uh racial and ethnic groups or is it

1454
01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:27.920
just
poverty and disability status

1455
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:32.239
and in virginia they have definitely
added

1456
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:36.560
edi to their state plan in fact there's
a cabinet level

1457
01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:40.000
officer that was added to state
government

1458
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:45.119
uh on this subject uh oklahoma said they
feel like they're doing pretty good

1459
01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:47.679
because
while they're only oh they're gonna have

1460
01:49:47.679 --> 01:49:52.480
more conversations about edi
uh they've always offered grants and

1461
01:49:52.480 --> 01:49:57.920
services to try by libraries that's just
something they do standard over time

1462
01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:01.920
so they they feel like they've got a leg
up on that

1463
01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:06.400
nevada talked about um she's not sure
where to start with edi

1464
01:50:06.400 --> 01:50:10.159
and there have been some real pushbacks
on edi

1465
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:14.080
in her state that uh one of the
libraries was

1466
01:50:14.080 --> 01:50:17.440
uh posted black lives matter uh
statement

1467
01:50:17.440 --> 01:50:22.560
and it's it's like the the sheriff and a
bunch of other people came down on them

1468
01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:26.000
and there's been an internal
investigation so that's sounds like as

1469
01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:29.520
it sent ripples
through the uh through the library

1470
01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:33.920
community
um um i talked about the fact that you

1471
01:50:33.920 --> 01:50:37.199
know we've
we're not as far as long as other states

1472
01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:39.440
are
but i'm looking at two of my vacant

1473
01:50:39.440 --> 01:50:44.480
positions in library development
to add an inclusive services component

1474
01:50:44.480 --> 01:50:48.639
to one existing job
and a tribal library component to

1475
01:50:48.639 --> 01:50:52.400
another existing job
so we at least have some coverage you

1476
01:50:52.400 --> 01:50:56.880
know small staff many hats
um wisconsin talked about using the

1477
01:50:56.880 --> 01:51:01.760
division of public instruction
data um to understand who the

1478
01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:06.000
underserved are
and so they've got some pretty clear um

1479
01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:11.520
configurations on where that is uh
and and he he said that it's been an

1480
01:51:11.520 --> 01:51:14.400
interesting conversation within his
agency

1481
01:51:14.400 --> 01:51:18.480
in that they don't they they're they're
coming to the conclusion that

1482
01:51:18.480 --> 01:51:22.480
they can't give one grant and solve edi
in wisconsin

1483
01:51:22.480 --> 01:51:26.159
that all they can do right now is move
the needle on a huge

1484
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:29.679
problem and that's something you know if
you want to think you're going to solve

1485
01:51:29.679 --> 01:51:32.000
a problem that's sort of a hard thing to
get your head around

1486
01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:35.599
is that this is going to be a very
incremental process

1487
01:51:35.599 --> 01:51:40.000
um we talked about the lack of diversity
among our staff

1488
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:45.760
uh we also talked about when we do
workshops for library staff is it always

1489
01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:48.000
to the director or do we need to reach
down

1490
01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:55.440
further within within the
staff of libraries um

1491
01:51:55.440 --> 01:52:02.080
talked about staffing issues
and we talked about sometimes even when

1492
01:52:02.080 --> 01:52:05.599
you do make an
effort to address this that sometimes

1493
01:52:05.599 --> 01:52:09.040
the results aren't great
in alaska we've had a scholarship we've

1494
01:52:09.040 --> 01:52:12.880
given out since 1992
with the preference for alaska natives

1495
01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:16.480
87 scholarships have
been given out and we only have had

1496
01:52:16.480 --> 01:52:21.280
seven with alaska native ethnicity
so sometimes you know you try and

1497
01:52:21.280 --> 01:52:23.920
something doesn't work and it's like
what do you do next do you

1498
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:31.840
do you change it so anyway that was our
discussion in one group

1499
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:35.199
we didn't choose anybody in our group
either but i'll go ahead and report i

1500
01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:39.360
did take a couple of notes
um several people said they had them as

1501
01:52:39.360 --> 01:52:43.280
projects in their current plan
and will make them bigger and more

1502
01:52:43.280 --> 01:52:46.560
inclusive
in their next plan and kind of spread it

1503
01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:48.960
out throughout all the projects and make
sure

1504
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:54.480
it's covered everywhere instead of
having a limited focus

1505
01:52:54.480 --> 01:52:58.320
massachusetts did talk about they've
changed their scoring for

1506
01:52:58.320 --> 01:53:02.560
sub grants to include an edi component
which i thought was a really

1507
01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:07.920
good thing to do um and that
that you know that then becomes a basis

1508
01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:10.880
for being funded

1509
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:16.719
one of the other things we talked about
montana is revising their standards

1510
01:53:16.719 --> 01:53:24.080
and looking at making it an
expectation for

1511
01:53:24.080 --> 01:53:29.280
having edi in order to be compliant with
standards statewide

1512
01:53:29.280 --> 01:53:32.719
which again i liked not that i want to
revise our standards again we just did

1513
01:53:32.719 --> 01:53:36.560
it recently
and that they also have a different imls

1514
01:53:36.560 --> 01:53:40.560
grant that is working on writing
strategic plans and helping

1515
01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:44.639
the smaller rural places i think this is
what i heard

1516
01:53:44.639 --> 01:53:50.159
in in doing including edi
and that implicit bias in their

1517
01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:54.159
strategic plans and so
kind of taking that focus on it moving

1518
01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:58.480
forward
too um

1519
01:53:58.480 --> 01:54:02.159
oregon talked about um

1520
01:54:02.239 --> 01:54:06.560
focusing on understanding the
communities and putting

1521
01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:10.080
thinking into that so you're underserved
communities and

1522
01:54:10.080 --> 01:54:14.719
um and how do you you know putting
that's where their money is going is

1523
01:54:14.719 --> 01:54:18.960
is serving the underserved communities
which then gets you into some of that

1524
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:25.440
diversity and equity um
we talked some about barriers

1525
01:54:25.440 --> 01:54:30.080
there are legislation legislators across
the country who are

1526
01:54:30.080 --> 01:54:35.679
making new laws that limits what you can
talk about when it comes to edi

1527
01:54:35.679 --> 01:54:41.679
and what you can train on um
massachusetts talked about doing an

1528
01:54:41.679 --> 01:54:46.880
audit
and and which i think like an edi audit

1529
01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:50.400
throughout your whole program which i
think also is a good idea

1530
01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:55.199
and then california talked about the
training that's required to

1531
01:54:55.199 --> 01:54:58.560
learn the language and make sure
everybody's on the same page when it

1532
01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:01.360
comes to it that that is much harder and
i think that's what

1533
01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:04.960
patience was talking about moving that
needle incrementally and really

1534
01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:08.480
making sure everybody understands what
you're talking about

1535
01:55:08.480 --> 01:55:13.760
when you start talking about edi thank
you so much nancy and thank you patients

1536
01:55:13.760 --> 01:55:19.679
um now we're on to virtual lsta
management the first group

1537
01:55:19.679 --> 01:55:25.440
okay that would be me um so
basically we i think in the pro column

1538
01:55:25.440 --> 01:55:30.400
we had
improved communications um sharing

1539
01:55:30.400 --> 01:55:35.119
support for each other and opportunities
that we didn't anticipate

1540
01:55:35.119 --> 01:55:41.440
um and in the con group i'd say time
so um and who knows what time meant

1541
01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:48.800
in this last year but also bandwidth
having enough you know

1542
01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:52.480
being able to juggle and balance
different things

1543
01:55:52.480 --> 01:55:55.920
so it was kind of interesting because we
had

1544
01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:59.199
you know of course all these unexpected
things happening

1545
01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:02.480
and lots of people went online with
meetings

1546
01:56:02.480 --> 01:56:06.239
and for example in colorado they said
they started off with

1547
01:56:06.239 --> 01:56:09.040
meetings twice a week and then they went
down to weekly and now they're doing

1548
01:56:09.040 --> 01:56:13.280
monthly
and it was a safe place for people to

1549
01:56:13.280 --> 01:56:16.400
come and
talk about what was going well and what

1550
01:56:16.400 --> 01:56:20.719
wasn't going well
and it's kind of hard to carry the

1551
01:56:20.719 --> 01:56:23.040
weight
of everything and navigate everything

1552
01:56:23.040 --> 01:56:27.199
gracefully
so it was good to be able to to share

1553
01:56:27.199 --> 01:56:32.800
that and communicate that
in north carolina they actually did they

1554
01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:37.119
established special cohorts
so if libraries were doing hot spots and

1555
01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:41.440
maybe they hadn't used them before
they could come together and meet and

1556
01:56:41.440 --> 01:56:44.159
talk and they said it was very
successful because

1557
01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:47.199
different library types were involved
they had

1558
01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:52.880
um academic two years and public
libraries and school libraries

1559
01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:56.080
um i think i think i got that right
anyway but

1560
01:56:56.080 --> 01:57:00.239
it was a good fun thing that i think is
something we could use

1561
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.599
going forward with lots of different
programs um

1562
01:57:03.599 --> 01:57:07.520
and then one library i can't remember
which state this was now had actually

1563
01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:11.040
digital surveillance in a library so for
their checkout it was

1564
01:57:11.040 --> 01:57:16.880
just digital um and
they said that one of the drawbacks with

1565
01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:19.679
this is that it might actually lead to
people thinking

1566
01:57:19.679 --> 01:57:24.080
well they can do it all digitally why do
we even need librarians

1567
01:57:24.080 --> 01:57:29.920
so um so
we're we are challenged by capacity and

1568
01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:35.599
trying to find a balance with
um being sure that we're keeping all of

1569
01:57:35.599 --> 01:57:39.679
our regulations
in force and being able to monitor and

1570
01:57:39.679 --> 01:57:42.400
of course
it's so different to try to monitor from

1571
01:57:42.400 --> 01:57:47.119
a distance
but um on the other hand there are

1572
01:57:47.119 --> 01:57:50.480
things that have been
wonderful like being able to send people

1573
01:57:50.480 --> 01:57:56.639
for virtual conferences
and some of us had very limited

1574
01:57:56.639 --> 01:58:00.480
to almost no success with that whereas
with other states it was a wonderful

1575
01:58:00.480 --> 01:58:06.000
wonderful opportunity
so i think that's that's all i've got

1576
01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:11.199
thank you maura and two um i'm building
off that i'm the group two one

1577
01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:16.480
and well group two spokesperson um
we had a lot of the same similar things

1578
01:58:16.480 --> 01:58:19.599
but one of the things that i'll notice
was very different for us

1579
01:58:19.599 --> 01:58:23.280
is that we had a person who was able to
one of the states

1580
01:58:23.280 --> 01:58:28.639
was able to do more monitoring with
the zoom meetings and find things

1581
01:58:28.639 --> 01:58:32.080
quicker with
especially acknowledgement like on the

1582
01:58:32.080 --> 01:58:36.960
plexiglass and if we bought this
put a little imola sticker on there and

1583
01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:40.560
they
we thought that was a great idea we

1584
01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:46.320
really were all excited about that
we noticed that some people were able to

1585
01:58:46.320 --> 01:58:48.960
attend
more meetings when they were shorter and

1586
01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:52.159
smaller and we reached farther areas
especially when

1587
01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:55.199
i'm traveling as a distance as a problem
but

1588
01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:59.199
then we also noticed that sometimes it
was harder for the people who were going

1589
01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:03.119
to longer
things to take that block of time away

1590
01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:07.280
because
they just they were busy trying to do

1591
01:59:07.280 --> 01:59:10.480
other things and they couldn't be gone
with all the other stuff going on with

1592
01:59:10.480 --> 01:59:16.080
the pandemic
we also had that some of our libraries

1593
01:59:16.080 --> 01:59:19.280
were able to reach
new libraries that they'd never worked

1594
01:59:19.280 --> 01:59:24.320
with before um
because of like the cares money and

1595
01:59:24.320 --> 01:59:27.520
things like that so they were able to
reach people they had never granted with

1596
01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:33.920
on some of them who did sub grants
some people were feeling like it's hard

1597
01:59:33.920 --> 01:59:38.159
to do everything because of limitations
in the technology especially with phones

1598
01:59:38.159 --> 01:59:42.480
and forwarding phones and access
to get um you know to be able to

1599
01:59:42.480 --> 01:59:47.520
communicate with everyone
and a lot of people were able to do more

1600
01:59:47.520 --> 01:59:52.159
but um also some were talking about if
they would be able to hire more

1601
01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:55.679
people to keep up with everything
because of some of those restrictions

1602
01:59:55.679 --> 01:59:59.840
also
um i feel like that's just kind of some

1603
01:59:59.840 --> 02:00:03.040
of the things we also had a lot of the
same things that group one had so i

1604
02:00:03.040 --> 02:00:05.760
won't go over those again
but i think that's kind of a little

1605
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:08.639
snapshot of what we talked about in
group two

1606
02:00:08.639 --> 02:00:12.639
thank you so much wendy now we're gonna
move on to exemplary projects and if i

1607
02:00:12.639 --> 02:00:16.719
could ask the
um the people who are reporting out to

1608
02:00:16.719 --> 02:00:20.800
just limit your talked about
two minutes okay um so you can stay on

1609
02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:24.880
time yeah this is debbie
we had a real good discussion um some

1610
02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:30.719
states say they use the box some say
states say they don't um one of the

1611
02:00:30.719 --> 02:00:34.239
criteria
that one of the states uses is would we

1612
02:00:34.239 --> 02:00:38.400
want to use this as an example to show
libraries how to manage a grant

1613
02:00:38.400 --> 02:00:41.920
and what kind of impact it can have on a
community

1614
02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:47.920
um as well as if the project has
excellent planning and management and

1615
02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:51.760
impact
it has on the community as well and does

1616
02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:54.960
it go above and beyond what is normally
expected

1617
02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:59.119
um and also is it innovative is it
moving libraries forward

1618
02:00:59.119 --> 02:01:05.840
is it sustainable replicable and also
somebody said that is it a unique or

1619
02:01:05.840 --> 02:01:09.679
different from what other states are
doing then they would

1620
02:01:09.679 --> 02:01:13.760
tack it as an exemplary and we had
several different

1621
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:20.000
um examples of like a teen writing
project day by day literacy counter

1622
02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:24.800
and calendar and then consortia
collaborative projects

1623
02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:30.719
um an action research project
and then somebody said um what was once

1624
02:01:30.719 --> 02:01:35.760
exemplary
is now expected and then if there was an

1625
02:01:35.760 --> 02:01:38.880
exemplary project that was done several
years ago

1626
02:01:38.880 --> 02:01:42.960
and it hasn't been done but but it's
outdated and needs to be updated

1627
02:01:42.960 --> 02:01:48.800
once it's updated it would be an
exemplary project again so so we had a

1628
02:01:48.800 --> 02:01:51.840
really really good discussion

1629
02:01:52.080 --> 02:01:56.880
thank you so much debbie how about group
two all right uh i had group two

1630
02:01:56.880 --> 02:02:03.040
um so we did uh express an interest in
figuring out what we should designate

1631
02:02:03.040 --> 02:02:08.800
as an exemplary project and some of the
examples were would it be something that

1632
02:02:08.800 --> 02:02:11.440
had
national impact did it win a national

1633
02:02:11.440 --> 02:02:15.360
award
some states said that they always pick

1634
02:02:15.360 --> 02:02:18.000
at least one or maybe they try to always
pick

1635
02:02:18.000 --> 02:02:21.679
two but some generally don't bother we
did hear from

1636
02:02:21.679 --> 02:02:25.440
michelle that it's kind of helpful to
imls

1637
02:02:25.440 --> 02:02:29.199
if we do sort of tag some of those
projects

1638
02:02:29.199 --> 02:02:32.239
that they might want to look at in
sharing

1639
02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:35.199
sharing out to some of their
stakeholders about the work that they're

1640
02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:40.800
doing
one person said that she asks herself is

1641
02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:43.679
it something that michelle would put on
the blog

1642
02:02:43.679 --> 02:02:47.760
in order to determine whether it's
exemplary or not

1643
02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:54.000
and one even said that they sometimes
have or that they at least have heard of

1644
02:02:54.000 --> 02:02:58.000
a state
trying to pick one exemplary project per

1645
02:02:58.000 --> 02:03:02.239
congressional district but we pointed
out that these can be

1646
02:03:02.239 --> 02:03:06.400
decided on a state-by-state basis what
the criteria is

1647
02:03:06.400 --> 02:03:10.880
and definitely if you want to see what
other states are doing

1648
02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:14.719
look at the other sbrs on the imls
website

1649
02:03:14.719 --> 02:03:20.400
and see what you find there some of the
exemplary projects that we discussed

1650
02:03:20.400 --> 02:03:23.840
were
peer coordinators working with persons

1651
02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:28.880
who are experiencing homelessness or
close to experiencing homelessness

1652
02:03:28.880 --> 02:03:35.040
health literacy
initiatives a state book festival

1653
02:03:35.520 --> 02:03:40.400
upgrades or improvements in the talking
book project

1654
02:03:40.639 --> 02:03:45.840
stem pro a stem project for middle
schoolers to make hovercraft

1655
02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:50.800
chronicling art and architecture in the
state's libraries

1656
02:03:50.800 --> 02:03:58.320
and a state literacy calendar
and cindy boyden owes me a beer

1657
02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:03.280
thank you so much jennifer and i will
say to the whole group that

1658
02:04:03.280 --> 02:04:07.679
as program officers we really do love to
see it when you highlight a project and

1659
02:04:07.679 --> 02:04:11.119
your spr report is exemplary
we're always looking on the lookout for

1660
02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:16.800
those uh next is our pandemic issues
group one

1661
02:04:19.679 --> 02:04:24.320
of angela okay so that that was me i'm
having new issues today um

1662
02:04:24.320 --> 02:04:27.520
so we kind of learned all our questions
together uh

1663
02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:31.440
as far as cobit impacting our grant
projects those of us with sub grants all

1664
02:04:31.440 --> 02:04:34.880
talked about how the sub grantees had to
pivot because they could no longer do

1665
02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:39.440
virtual
or in-person programs things like that

1666
02:04:39.440 --> 02:04:43.040
most of the state libraries reported
having some challenges on the staff side

1667
02:04:43.040 --> 02:04:47.679
just because we were all taking on
extra projects um or in the middle of

1668
02:04:47.679 --> 02:04:50.480
large projects when the pandemic hit and
all of a sudden

1669
02:04:50.480 --> 02:04:53.920
we're still doing all of those required
work but we're also

1670
02:04:53.920 --> 02:04:58.719
trying to distribute money help
libraries pivot

1671
02:04:58.719 --> 02:05:02.719
you know make those changes and be even
more responsive to libraries during all

1672
02:05:02.719 --> 02:05:05.840
of this
many of our libraries reported having to

1673
02:05:05.840 --> 02:05:08.800
shut down their statewide courier
services

1674
02:05:08.800 --> 02:05:12.960
there was a lot of talk about statewide
database use some people saw increases

1675
02:05:12.960 --> 02:05:17.199
some people saw
actual decreases north dakota talked

1676
02:05:17.199 --> 02:05:20.480
about joining overdrive during this time
they were able to join the

1677
02:05:20.480 --> 02:05:24.079
consortium and they saw a huge takeoff
in ebook use

1678
02:05:24.079 --> 02:05:28.480
um let's see there was a statewide
summer reading program kickoff this was

1679
02:05:28.480 --> 02:05:31.760
also north dakota and they talked about
how they were able

1680
02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:35.840
because it was virtual they did this
week-long partnership with academic and

1681
02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:40.320
school libraries that involved everyone
and one of the things a lot of libraries

1682
02:05:40.320 --> 02:05:43.840
touched on was that the virtual
programming that happened

1683
02:05:43.840 --> 02:05:48.400
as a necessity is something we're all
looking to do moving forward

1684
02:05:48.400 --> 02:05:51.520
a lot of people talked about wanting to
continue

1685
02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:55.119
offering things like continuing
education and professional development

1686
02:05:55.119 --> 02:05:58.159
to our libraries
via these virtual and streaming

1687
02:05:58.159 --> 02:06:02.079
platforms because
it offered a way to reach libraries that

1688
02:06:02.079 --> 02:06:06.639
might not be able to get in person and
it's really meeting them where they are

1689
02:06:06.639 --> 02:06:10.000
so a lot of this year has been about
learning how to use those platforms to

1690
02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:13.520
better reach our libraries
and someone mentioned this in an earlier

1691
02:06:13.520 --> 02:06:17.040
reporting out but
the idea that there were some libraries

1692
02:06:17.040 --> 02:06:20.800
that we had not previously
worked with or reached or really met

1693
02:06:20.800 --> 02:06:24.480
before that we were able to because we
were reaching out with cares money or to

1694
02:06:24.480 --> 02:06:28.079
help them with these new projects
and so we want to keep that momentum

1695
02:06:28.079 --> 02:06:31.920
going and
let's see oh i thought this was a lovely

1696
02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:36.880
note that there is a renewed recognition
of state libraries and what they provide

1697
02:06:36.880 --> 02:06:40.719
and then just a couple other random
notes it's going to be hard convincing

1698
02:06:40.719 --> 02:06:43.199
some staff to come back to the office
because

1699
02:06:43.199 --> 02:06:46.960
we've been home for a long time and
feeling very productive

1700
02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:50.079
we've seen lots of retirements
throughout our states

1701
02:06:50.079 --> 02:06:54.719
and i believe was this in illinois where
one school library reported that they

1702
02:06:54.719 --> 02:06:57.920
were going to
keep their access to ebooks because they

1703
02:06:57.920 --> 02:07:01.119
were so popular and do away with their
library

1704
02:07:01.119 --> 02:07:05.760
so some interesting ramifications but
let's go back to like everybody

1705
02:07:05.760 --> 02:07:09.199
appreciating their state library and
recognizing what we can do we're going

1706
02:07:09.199 --> 02:07:15.280
to end on that one so that's group one
all right group two wow it's really hard

1707
02:07:15.280 --> 02:07:17.599
to go
after that when you hear all the things

1708
02:07:17.599 --> 02:07:22.239
that came up in your group so
um exactly pivoting was the key word

1709
02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:25.679
here for how coveted impacted our grant
projects couldn't say that enough just

1710
02:07:25.679 --> 02:07:28.159
had to
restructure programs and not only

1711
02:07:28.159 --> 02:07:33.280
restructuring what
we're doing at the state level but also

1712
02:07:33.280 --> 02:07:37.760
supporting libraries as they restructure
everything so it's like you know

1713
02:07:37.760 --> 02:07:43.599
double double the the pivot
there um people were able to take

1714
02:07:43.599 --> 02:07:46.960
advantage
of vendor offers for all those different

1715
02:07:46.960 --> 02:07:51.199
additional free support
products and services that they were so

1716
02:07:51.199 --> 02:07:54.560
freely doling out and every grant
opportunity

1717
02:07:54.560 --> 02:07:58.480
under the sun and every vendor had a
free thing for you for a little while

1718
02:07:58.480 --> 02:08:01.679
what happened to all that stuff where
that all go um

1719
02:08:01.679 --> 02:08:06.079
and then the sort of bummer things like
having to cancel projects

1720
02:08:06.079 --> 02:08:10.000
the backlog and the supply chain came up
and that's been very frustrating for a

1721
02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:13.360
lot of folks
that made it difficult if not impossible

1722
02:08:13.360 --> 02:08:16.800
to obtain some of those products that we
were charged with going out

1723
02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:21.760
and getting with some influx of some
different monies that we were seeing

1724
02:08:21.760 --> 02:08:25.520
and then even having the lapse grants
because of the inability to meet project

1725
02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:30.639
goals
let's see new projects statewide

1726
02:08:30.639 --> 02:08:33.440
licenses
like read squared bean stack those came

1727
02:08:33.440 --> 02:08:37.440
up participation
in continuing education programs rhode

1728
02:08:37.440 --> 02:08:41.920
island specifically saw a
400 percent increase in participation in

1729
02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:46.320
ce programs which is like that's awesome
we also have similar data to support

1730
02:08:46.320 --> 02:08:50.800
that like
skyrocketing and virtual ce um near the

1731
02:08:50.800 --> 02:08:53.520
start and then you kind of see when
people get tired of

1732
02:08:53.520 --> 02:08:59.599
get that zoom fatigue as it were um
provided guidance on reopening delivery

1733
02:08:59.599 --> 02:09:03.599
quarantines
i liked this we became scientists

1734
02:09:03.599 --> 02:09:08.079
overnight
someone said um and then if vendors had

1735
02:09:08.079 --> 02:09:11.440
their way you know i'd be buying every
virtual reading program that was ever

1736
02:09:11.440 --> 02:09:14.880
created i don't think my phone
really stopped ringing for like six

1737
02:09:14.880 --> 02:09:18.719
months straight and it was a vendor
every single time

1738
02:09:18.719 --> 02:09:22.000
and give me the hook if i'm going too
long here

1739
02:09:22.000 --> 02:09:27.280
and i'm just again echoing that
more people were able to participate you

1740
02:09:27.280 --> 02:09:32.000
know we're still not reaching
everybody but we're reaching some more

1741
02:09:32.000 --> 02:09:35.760
people and i think that's that's pretty
important but also just like who aren't

1742
02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:38.960
we reaching is a
is a big thing here and making sure that

1743
02:09:38.960 --> 02:09:41.599
we're finding ways to connect to
everyone

1744
02:09:41.599 --> 02:09:44.880
feel people who are feeling more
connected as a statewide group of

1745
02:09:44.880 --> 02:09:49.520
librarians um and then everyone was sort
of forced to learn

1746
02:09:49.520 --> 02:09:53.440
technology that they hadn't known before
too so it like sort of sets us up for

1747
02:09:53.440 --> 02:09:58.719
future success now that everybody's kind
of had a taste and been involved

1748
02:09:58.719 --> 02:10:02.320
and then just being able to remain open
as a state library

1749
02:10:02.320 --> 02:10:05.360
um you know to some extent in quotes
right open

1750
02:10:05.360 --> 02:10:08.560
um to make sure that the library's still
there to provide those curbside

1751
02:10:08.560 --> 02:10:11.599
talking book and braille offerings that
patrons

1752
02:10:11.599 --> 02:10:18.400
need so um
awesome sounds good thank you all right

1753
02:10:18.400 --> 02:10:23.760
uh next group is five year evaluations
breakout one

1754
02:10:23.760 --> 02:10:28.960
all right so five year evaluations we
had a nice q and a with matt

1755
02:10:28.960 --> 02:10:32.079
and we had a lot of relatively new folks
in our group

1756
02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:36.560
so there is definitely some trepidation
or a lot of questions about

1757
02:10:36.560 --> 02:10:42.560
how this whole process works and
so matt asked the question what is your

1758
02:10:42.560 --> 02:10:45.280
greatest concern as you go into this
process

1759
02:10:45.280 --> 02:10:49.280
and staff who are relatively new may be
intimidated and would like to

1760
02:10:49.280 --> 02:10:53.199
understand how to break it down into
more manageable pieces

1761
02:10:53.199 --> 02:10:57.440
some advice it helps to consider your
timeline organize your goals and data

1762
02:10:57.440 --> 02:11:01.840
before you get started
start with your spr data obviously do

1763
02:11:01.840 --> 02:11:04.320
some follow-up as needed to collect the
new data

1764
02:11:04.320 --> 02:11:07.920
decide how you want to work with your
evaluator do you want

1765
02:11:07.920 --> 02:11:12.000
to have data coming in from them
throughout the process

1766
02:11:12.000 --> 02:11:15.119
or do you want to receive one report at
the end as you're starting to work on

1767
02:11:15.119 --> 02:11:19.360
your next plan
we had some conversation about the rfp

1768
02:11:19.360 --> 02:11:23.840
process it's much more cumbersome
in some states than in others while

1769
02:11:23.840 --> 02:11:28.239
waiting for the rfp process to wrap up
what should we be doing to prepare

1770
02:11:28.239 --> 02:11:32.000
so we can make sure that we have our
administrative records ready to go

1771
02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:35.760
on day one as soon as our evaluator is
on board make sure

1772
02:11:35.760 --> 02:11:39.280
we know who our stakeholders are and
think about how we want to

1773
02:11:39.280 --> 02:11:44.159
involve them in this process
what depth of information should we

1774
02:11:44.159 --> 02:11:49.040
expect the evaluator to ask
for again all the sbr data and any state

1775
02:11:49.040 --> 02:11:51.920
level data
that is required of grantees that may

1776
02:11:51.920 --> 02:11:56.480
help the evaluator to
better understand our progress on state

1777
02:11:56.480 --> 02:11:59.679
goals
how much time should staff anticipate

1778
02:11:59.679 --> 02:12:02.719
spending this
is going to be really variable probably

1779
02:12:02.719 --> 02:12:07.840
depending on your budget and your state
size and all that so matt reminded us of

1780
02:12:07.840 --> 02:12:10.639
the
community of practice that will be

1781
02:12:10.639 --> 02:12:14.639
coming together later this summer
that may help to answer that question

1782
02:12:14.639 --> 02:12:18.480
and matt also said
don't stress if you don't have the most

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comprehensive data possible for your
evaluation

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especially for staff who are new and may
have inherited some programs and

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we're not here to collect all that data
the evaluator is going to be able to

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identify where those gaps are and they
will

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be responsible for finding ways to
collect that data to fill in those gaps

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what should we not do in this process do
not push unnecessary self-interests that

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will
impact the development of your next plan

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don't allow the
evaluator to influence decisions you are

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currently making
and be prepared to hear things you may

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not want to hear
it's how we learn to do better a few

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more responses
um in the next plan some

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02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:05.760
states would like to spend more time on
fewer

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02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:10.560
larger pro projects that have a greater
impact rather than on a lot of smaller

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projects
someone was interested in understanding

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who they are not serving and how to
measure that

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and how that could be written into the
rfp so

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um talking about the development of the
rfp

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it's good to consider what skills we
need our evaluators to have

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in advance in order to address whatever
our goals are

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for the evaluation in addition to the
requirements

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and uh matt
also added that it is really important

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to be able to
trust your evaluator whoever you select

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that whether or not they have lots of
experience specific to evaluating lsta

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it has to be a good fit for your program
and so

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just make sure you have a good feeling
for your relationship with that person

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02:13:55.360 --> 02:13:58.719
or
group maybe a group would be better look

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02:13:58.719 --> 02:14:02.960
for someone with
evaluation skills and also someone with

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subject matter expertise such as library
administration

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and matt also gave us a couple of
different resources to look for if you

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02:14:11.119 --> 02:14:14.400
need a
a place to start looking for an

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02:14:14.400 --> 02:14:17.599
evaluator the american evaluation
association

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02:14:17.599 --> 02:14:21.679
they have a subset of evaluators in arts
and culture

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and another group focused on public
administration

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02:14:25.119 --> 02:14:29.520
and so that might be a good place to
start another entity was

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02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:33.440
on the museum side called the visitors
study association

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and then finally um the folks at ripple
linda hofshire may be able to

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02:14:37.280 --> 02:14:40.800
offer some suggestions so in summary
take time

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02:14:40.800 --> 02:14:44.320
to determine your needs articulate those
clearly

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in the rfp and good luck everybody
cool thank you how about group two

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uh i was volunteered by matt to take the
notes for group two

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02:14:56.480 --> 02:15:00.800
so thank you car actually i'd say dude
you did a great job of

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reviewing so i won't repeat some of the
things that kara mentioned but

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i would say let's see um
as far as concerns uh staffing veterans

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02:15:11.199 --> 02:15:14.320
in some state library agencies who've
retired i'm

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02:15:14.320 --> 02:15:18.320
taking a lot of institutional knowledge
so again concerns for folks who haven't

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02:15:18.320 --> 02:15:21.760
done the evaluations before
wanting to make sure that you know

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02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:25.679
they're they're taking into account all
the things that imos was looking for

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um and then there were some some there
was some discussion about comparison

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02:15:30.639 --> 02:15:35.440
uh among states and whether it was
required or recommended and then i

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02:15:35.440 --> 02:15:39.599
mentioned actually
the uh i was at imls when

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the two evaluations ago when i mls
actually did

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02:15:43.360 --> 02:15:47.040
a publication called catalyst for change
which really looked at

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uh as a national comparison and i don't
believe we did do one

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02:15:51.520 --> 02:15:55.199
for the five years ago so that was
really just a question

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02:15:55.199 --> 02:15:59.520
as to whether or not i must might be
doing that matt did say he's been having

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02:15:59.520 --> 02:16:03.119
some discussions
um with crosby camping with the director

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02:16:03.119 --> 02:16:06.880
and then of course
there's this the new sbr has been

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instituted since
10 years ago so that that makes a

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02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:13.760
difference as well
i did mention that as uh i'm at the

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chief in massachusetts
and we're a causeline it's the console

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02:16:18.159 --> 02:16:20.719
of state library agencies in the
northeast

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02:16:20.719 --> 02:16:24.480
uh we have a history of doing a group
rfp

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02:16:24.480 --> 02:16:28.320
for evaluations and i believe i was
actually in new jersey

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02:16:28.320 --> 02:16:32.399
when and i was the lsd coordinator in
new jersey

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02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:37.439
five years ago we had talked with uh
the folks we hired about possibly doing

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02:16:37.439 --> 02:16:41.120
a regional evaluation just having a
summary and i think

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02:16:41.120 --> 02:16:44.000
that would have been interesting i don't
believe that actually did happen so i'm

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02:16:44.000 --> 02:16:47.840
hoping we might be able
to do that uh going forward but as matt

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02:16:47.840 --> 02:16:51.200
did point out of course
as everyone knows every state library

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02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:53.920
agency if you've seen one you've seen
one

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02:16:53.920 --> 02:16:57.439
we're really quite different some of us
do sub grants some do not so

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02:16:57.439 --> 02:17:00.399
it i think there could be you know
pluses and minuses or something like

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02:17:00.399 --> 02:17:03.200
that
a couple of things i would mention um

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02:17:03.200 --> 02:17:06.479
just really
uh it was mentioned in our group to make

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02:17:06.479 --> 02:17:09.840
sure you want to make sure you're asking
the right questions and and

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02:17:09.840 --> 02:17:13.120
so hopefully it will really help to
inform

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02:17:13.120 --> 02:17:18.399
the next five-year plan um
and then as far as hiring an evaluator

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02:17:18.399 --> 02:17:21.280
we did talk about the
pros and cons of hiring someone who

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02:17:21.280 --> 02:17:24.319
actually did your prior evaluation or
two

1862
02:17:24.319 --> 02:17:30.399
in some cases you know having a a new
newer outlook on the evaluation

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02:17:30.399 --> 02:17:33.599
potentially
so plus as much there we did also talk

1864
02:17:33.599 --> 02:17:36.479
about the timelines it sounds like some
states have already gotten started

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02:17:36.479 --> 02:17:40.080
they're hoping to finish by the fall
that's not actually what we've done in

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02:17:40.080 --> 02:17:43.280
massachusetts yet but
again i think with causeline i believe

1867
02:17:43.280 --> 02:17:47.280
it's something we're going to be looking
at pretty soon getting the rfp together

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02:17:47.280 --> 02:17:53.760
um and i think
let's see everything else i think was

1869
02:17:53.760 --> 02:17:57.359
pretty much said i just asked anyone
else in my group if i've left

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02:17:57.359 --> 02:18:01.840
anything out because my note-taking um
leaves something to be desired

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02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:07.519
thank you thank you james sure
all right now we're with our our final

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session working with partners
yep that was a really interesting

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02:18:13.519 --> 02:18:15.599
conversation i kind of wish we had had
more

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02:18:15.599 --> 02:18:19.599
time to kind of get into some of the
challenges a little bit

1875
02:18:19.599 --> 02:18:24.639
more deeply but generally the question
was how do you identify potential

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02:18:24.639 --> 02:18:28.399
partners
and there are two aspects to that one is

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02:18:28.399 --> 02:18:32.080
the
strategic aspect that is very purposeful

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02:18:32.080 --> 02:18:36.479
and then there's the serendipitous one
as well so strategically you could look

1879
02:18:36.479 --> 02:18:40.319
for mutual
benefit and alignment with a partner

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02:18:40.319 --> 02:18:43.519
organization
do they have the same target audience

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02:18:43.519 --> 02:18:48.639
same goals
or you could also look for partners

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02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:52.559
and organizations who do things that you
could support

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02:18:52.559 --> 02:18:58.240
sort of complement their work with what
you're able to do and vice versa

1884
02:18:58.319 --> 02:19:03.679
examples of partners could be other
state agencies and non-profits

1885
02:19:03.679 --> 02:19:08.719
such as arts humanities organizations
historical societies and so on

1886
02:19:08.719 --> 02:19:13.599
um know also what your sister agencies
are doing

1887
02:19:13.599 --> 02:19:18.880
so some state libraries are connected
or structured a little bit differently

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02:19:18.880 --> 02:19:24.559
and where they sit in the state
and um some of them work closely with

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02:19:24.559 --> 02:19:28.479
their sister agencies and and
really know what the work is that

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02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:31.679
they're doing and kind of are able to
insert themselves

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02:19:31.679 --> 02:19:38.160
that way as well getting in
with other state departments has

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02:19:38.160 --> 02:19:41.200
been a challenge has been listed as a
challenge

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02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:44.639
for i think all of us labor and
education came up

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02:19:44.639 --> 02:19:50.560
more specifically and some solutions to
really engaging with those groups was to

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02:19:50.560 --> 02:19:55.840
offer resources
for example offer databases for school

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02:19:55.840 --> 02:19:59.920
libraries
so even though they i think this was

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02:19:59.920 --> 02:20:02.960
maine i'm not
certain right now but even though they

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02:20:02.960 --> 02:20:06.880
don't have a formal relationship with
the department of education

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02:20:06.880 --> 02:20:11.040
they're able to engage with school
libraries by offering resources

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02:20:11.040 --> 02:20:14.640
oregon and i know some other states have
a school library consultant

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02:20:14.640 --> 02:20:20.319
to kind of build partnerships that way
um maine made inroads with department of

1902
02:20:20.319 --> 02:20:25.439
labor by working on a specific grant
and kind of got in that way so a lot of

1903
02:20:25.439 --> 02:20:31.120
it is really up to
um working on individual

1904
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:36.319
things that then might grow the
relationship based on that

1905
02:20:36.319 --> 02:20:42.840
we all agreed that ultimately partners
partnerships depend on personal

1906
02:20:42.840 --> 02:20:47.680
connections being at the table at the
right time

1907
02:20:47.680 --> 02:20:51.200
listening for opportunities connecting
the dots so

1908
02:20:51.200 --> 02:20:57.200
if my state librarian is is in meetings
and identifying opportunities here

1909
02:20:57.200 --> 02:21:00.720
and connects that to things that i'm
doing at my level

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02:21:00.720 --> 02:21:03.760
it it that's how these opportunities
grow so

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02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:09.920
very very much up to chance
problems uh that we identified actually

1912
02:21:09.920 --> 02:21:13.120
the question that we hadn't been able to
delve more deeply into was

1913
02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:17.439
how do we gracefully bow out of
partnerships that no longer

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02:21:17.439 --> 02:21:21.520
that are no longer beneficial or that no
longer work

1915
02:21:21.520 --> 02:21:26.080
and the the best solution that janet
from maine suggested

1916
02:21:26.080 --> 02:21:32.479
is to use the five-year plan to
exit those relationships and kind of

1917
02:21:32.479 --> 02:21:35.280
change your focus so that was one
solution that

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02:21:35.280 --> 02:21:40.160
came up and we hadn't gotten beyond that
so i don't know if my group wants to add

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02:21:40.160 --> 02:21:46.800
anything to that
wonderful janet thank you so much

1920
02:21:47.120 --> 02:21:52.840
well that concludes our virtual
programmatic topic session thanks

1921
02:21:52.840 --> 02:21:55.840
everybody

1922
02:21:57.520 --> 02:22:02.720
thank you madison yeah and it was so
let me just say it was so wonderful to

1923
02:22:02.720 --> 02:22:05.920
see your faces
and the voices of those that we just

1924
02:22:05.920 --> 02:22:09.600
heard and
to be in the breakouts with you um we

1925
02:22:09.600 --> 02:22:12.720
had a
little you know technological set of

1926
02:22:12.720 --> 02:22:15.520
issues there but you all
pulled through like troopers thank you

1927
02:22:15.520 --> 02:22:21.840
so much uh for being flexible with us
um i will ask you to advance to the next

1928
02:22:21.840 --> 02:22:26.880
slide please
i think that one's got the survey on it

1929
02:22:26.880 --> 02:22:30.000
we would love if you would take the time
right now

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02:22:30.000 --> 02:22:35.120
to grab this link
this survey and i don't know if it can

1931
02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:39.040
be put into the chat
if someone if someone from my team is

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02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:43.040
available to do that or
or one of you handy people out there um

1933
02:22:43.040 --> 02:22:47.439
just stick it in the chat and
and start answering the survey um at

1934
02:22:47.439 --> 02:22:49.680
this moment while i'm talking if you
would

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02:22:49.680 --> 02:22:55.439
or immediately after the conference we
we have gotten official approval to give

1936
02:22:55.439 --> 02:22:59.520
you this survey and your feedback means
a lot to us it helps us

1937
02:22:59.520 --> 02:23:03.280
adapt our conference every single year
and learn what worked and what we

1938
02:23:03.280 --> 02:23:08.240
probably need to work on a little bit
so please be honest and uh

1939
02:23:08.240 --> 02:23:12.399
and let us know how we're doing because
we like you we're learning from our

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02:23:12.399 --> 02:23:17.200
evaluations too
um while this is up i'm just gonna say a

1941
02:23:17.200 --> 02:23:20.800
few housekeeping
things we will be sending for those of

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02:23:20.800 --> 02:23:23.680
you that
got awards yesterday we will be sending

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02:23:23.680 --> 02:23:28.479
those certifications
um to i think coordinators in the coming

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02:23:28.479 --> 02:23:31.840
days
and we will comb through the chat i

1945
02:23:31.840 --> 02:23:34.960
think we did pretty good in answering a
lot of the questions

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02:23:34.960 --> 02:23:39.040
but if there were questions that
remained unanswered we will be following

1947
02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:43.520
up
with individuals after the conference

1948
02:23:43.520 --> 02:23:47.040
we will do a round of sending out this
survey link

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02:23:47.040 --> 02:23:50.080
if you happen to have colleagues who
jumped off

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02:23:50.080 --> 02:23:54.080
couldn't be here right now we will do
just one more

1951
02:23:54.080 --> 02:23:57.760
email blast to make sure that everybody
gets this survey link

1952
02:23:57.760 --> 02:24:01.200
and of course we've been saying
throughout the recordings

1953
02:24:01.200 --> 02:24:05.439
uh will be available but not immediately
so just bear with us we have to make

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02:24:05.439 --> 02:24:08.560
them accessible
and do all the things that are required

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02:24:08.560 --> 02:24:13.040
of us as a federal agency and it usually
takes a little bit of time

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uh with that can we forward to the next
slide

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i have some people to thank um the
imless team

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02:24:22.160 --> 02:24:26.560
in grants to states in particular did
all of the planning for this i had very

1959
02:24:26.560 --> 02:24:30.240
little to do with this you heard a lot
of my voice on this conference

1960
02:24:30.240 --> 02:24:34.800
but we have a tremendous team and
madison and dennis and michelle

1961
02:24:34.800 --> 02:24:38.240
and laura just did so much to keep this
thing um

1962
02:24:38.240 --> 02:24:43.280
a planned to you know to what we thought
would be the most pressing topics that

1963
02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:46.080
you needed to know and keep it running
on time

1964
02:24:46.080 --> 02:24:49.359
so thanks to all of them uh we
appreciate our guest

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02:24:49.359 --> 02:24:52.720
speakers from other offices matt and
lisa

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02:24:52.720 --> 02:24:56.319
and cam and of course crosby and we had
um

1967
02:24:56.319 --> 02:25:00.560
our it staff sort of on call in case
things weren't really haywire so thank

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02:25:00.560 --> 02:25:06.479
you to sarah as well
next slide we appreciate also the

1969
02:25:06.479 --> 02:25:10.640
state presenters that we had this
conference particularly on our

1970
02:25:10.640 --> 02:25:15.280
evaluation panel yesterday
so thanks to kelm karen and janet and

1971
02:25:15.280 --> 02:25:18.399
our native american panel
today i don't think they're with us

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02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:22.800
anymore but we really appreciated
hearing from mary and erin and dale

1973
02:25:22.800 --> 02:25:29.280
next slide
and thanks to all of you um i mean we've

1974
02:25:29.280 --> 02:25:32.160
certainly heard about
zoom fatigue and a few of our breakouts

1975
02:25:32.160 --> 02:25:35.680
and we know in a time when you are
busier than ever

1976
02:25:35.680 --> 02:25:39.680
we appreciate you taking so much of your
time to be with us over the past several

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02:25:39.680 --> 02:25:42.880
days
thank you for being the kind of people

1978
02:25:42.880 --> 02:25:45.600
that we can laugh with in a time that
the world

1979
02:25:45.600 --> 02:25:50.000
probably needs more lightness and thank
you for upholding this program with

1980
02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:53.600
integrity
and giving your best day in and day out

1981
02:25:53.600 --> 02:25:57.200
to make a difference
with federal and state funds we

1982
02:25:57.200 --> 02:25:59.920
collectively
have a big year ahead of us we're not

1983
02:25:59.920 --> 02:26:03.760
going to lie
but we look forward to doing the hard

1984
02:26:03.760 --> 02:26:07.439
things together with you thank you
attendees

1985
02:26:07.439 --> 02:26:21.840
and we'll see you again soon

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02:26:33.520 --> 02:26:35.600
you