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thank you we are the federal government

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we do start on time
uh and it's it is so great to see you

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all
i'm so glad to be here in person with

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all of you
um i want to kick this off though by uh

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introducing ann friedman
uh ann friedman created this place

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planet word she's the founder and ceo of
planet word and i think you can agree

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with me this is a pretty extraordinary
place to uh to be

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she she was a teacher uh in the
montgomery county public schools here we

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are in a a great public school building
chairman of the board of the seed

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foundation the parent body of the
nation's only public inner city college

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prep boarding school
she's a trustee of the american alliance

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of museums which whose
event advocacy of that i spoke to

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yesterday by the way
and has worked with the aspen

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institute's ascend
program and as a co-vice chair

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of the aspen music festival we're really
honored to have ann friedman here to

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welcome us

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so welcome everybody it's so great to
have you here and when i saw there said

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empowering readers empowering citizens i
was like wait did they steal that from

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planet word
because that is exactly why this museum

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exists i was a reading teacher
the best job i ever had in my entire

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life the most fun
most meaningful

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but then i retired and i didn't want to
leave literacy behind

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so i was looking for ways to continue in
the field

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and
i read about a museum in new york that

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was bringing math to life
with technology in a museum setting and

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i i thought oh
there's the idea

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and why was that so important to me and
and what you're all here about is

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because
i had heard a speech in 2004

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given by the former head of the nea who
said that they had done a survey showing

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that readers were voters
readers were more likely to be active in

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their communities
to be volunteers and to vote

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so i felt like the only way we could
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the strength of our democracy for the
future would be to create

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citizens who were readers
and how could we do that when all the

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evidence was that reading was you know
declining and people were finding too

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many other ways to entertain themselves
and so i felt like we've got to

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get bring a buzz to reading we have to
make it cool how could we do that and

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seeing what they were doing with math in
new york i thought okay we can do that

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with words and language and that was
that's the origin story of planet word

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and i hope that when you have time later
this afternoon to go through our museum

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and see the experiences that we've
created that you'll think that

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that we've done what i wanted to do and
made really reading really cool and fun

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and um something you know that everyone
would want to

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to try and also not just word and not
just reading but words themselves

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we want to make sure that people are
aware of the words that they use

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the words that are used around them
that builds empathy in our globalized

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community
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we need that more now than ever so thank
you and enjoy your lunch

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and your meeting
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thank you ann so much
um

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so the the last time uh before the
pandemic the fir last meeting before the

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pandemic that i went to
uh there was a celebration of the

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community librarian of the year rivka
sas from sacramento rivka is with us

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today
and the deputy mayor yay

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the the deputy mayor of uh of sacramento
was there i think that that's his title

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uh and he said uh to to us uh he said
when we have a problem in sacramento we

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turn to rivka into the sacramento
library

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the first meeting post pandemic i went
to was to hand the national medal for

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library service to keenan mccloy in the
memphis public library and i don't

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remember the exact title but he was like
the deputy mayor

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kenan uh came came to that meeting and
he said when we have a problem in

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memphis
we turn to keenan and the memphis public

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library
then i went about a week after that i

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went to highwood illinois uh where we
gave the national medal to carmen patlin

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the highwood uh library uh their account
of uh five thousand people nestled in uh

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among the uh the north shore elite
that's five thousand first and second

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generation immigrants
uh that uh uh the library serves in so

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many ways and uh the the congressman
schneider united states congressman

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showed up the mayor showed up the state
senator state representative the city

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council showed up two-thirds of the
population showed up and the dog catcher

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and the meter made and they all said
when we have a problem in highwood

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illinois we turn to carmen
and to the highwood public library

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so
we're the we you are the um

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swiss army knife of the communities of
this uh this this country so why did i

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cajole and vegel and blackmail you all
to uh to come here

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uh the first group uh of library minds
uh pulled together actually probably the

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most exciting and and uh extraordinary
group of library minds since the last

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conversation that thomas jefferson had
with benjamin franklin

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um and it seems it seems like that
uh you know was right before the

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pandemic

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uh
so i i the the reason is

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we we know how how important we are to
the community

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but what's happened
because of that

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an awful lot of what we do in the
library world

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is inertial
inertial response to whatever the

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community wants to whatever is going on
in the world

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the digital revolution has taken us over
the pandemic took us over for sure the

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polarization of this country is at our
front door we're we're on the front

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lines of the of the culture war uh the
changes in our country the demographic

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changes
uh the changes uh the political changes

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uh in our country uh the deep
immigration we we have the highest level

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of immigrants in the united states since
the 1920s which was the highest level of

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immigrants ever in the history of this
country

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uh
the focus on inequality and on equity

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to actually i think different things but
two

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important things and george floyd
the racial reckoning in this country

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which we have to go through we must go
through in which libraries are engaged

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in
but how much purpose

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are we showing in this
i want to step back and think about the

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library as a place in a place with a
purpose

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and i hope that that's the conversation
we can have here

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when i thought about this conference
originally there were three people that

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i wanted uh to invite uh
robert putnam and shaylen uh romney

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garrett his co-author uh
of upswing and and bob i've known for a

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long time
i wanted to uh to invite marianne wolfe

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because she is the most inspirational
person i know about reading and i wanted

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to focus on reading
and danielle allen and danielle couldn't

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come but danielle's book
our declaration

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which is about the declaration of
independence is in my view

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one of the great books of our time she
discusses how she her belief that the

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declaration of independence
addresses our problems today and can

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profoundly inform the dialogue that we
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on all these issues
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she decided she agreed to come but then
she decided to run for governor of

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massachusetts
fortunately

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bob putnam and shaylynn romney garrett
who's with us here today in person

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agreed to agree to come right off the
bat and you'll find that in upswing and

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i'm going to mention this again uh when
i when i do the actual introduction of

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bob and shaylan
that daniel allen is is there

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prominently in the book on the last page
actually um

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but bob is of course the the uh uh the
the most important delineator of the

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decline of community uh in in the recent
history of the united states and he and

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shailene of course address what we might
be able to do about it in in this latest

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book
um i believe that one of the things that

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they say in this book um and and that is
something that danielle also her work is

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about and and marianne's work is a about
as well is is about what happens at the

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local level it's a topvillian view of
the world of uh what happens when we

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associate the great thing that
tocqueville said about america the

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unique thing he said about america was
that we come together in our townships

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it was the 1830s in our townships and
associate bring create associations

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around our problems and they spring up
spontaneously

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and i believe
that the power of the traditional

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library and our role in reading
uh and particularly in children's

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reading
and the art is the archimedean leverage

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point in what we do with our partners uh
in the in the community uh and i wanted

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the greatest evangelist of that uh mary
ann wolf to be here with us uh and she

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will be virtually
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and and then i had this all set
uh and then i read tim coates's freckle

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report
using imless statistics tim came to the

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conclusion
that there must be correlations between

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the decline in spending on books and
materials generally particularly print

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books
the decline in circulation and visits to

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the library and particularly the decline
in children's

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circulation and
children's visits and perhaps a

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correlation with a decline decline or
failure to do anything about the

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problems of reading
among the most challenged people in our

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community and the literacy of our
communities

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and what we know is true about reading
is that it correlates with virtually

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every measure of success and it
correlates with virtually every division

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and
divide that we have in this country

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so i believe that is
the right question tim's question is the

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right question
and so we we put together a panel to to

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uh to discuss that and we'll we'll see
uh this should be should be an

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interesting discussion uh about whether
or not we're using our resources

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correctly and what the focus of our
resources ought to be to me that is the

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ultimate question the focus of our
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but i had one more conversation that was
important that we added we added on to

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the to what we're doing here tony again
called me and some of you will know

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tony many of you will know about tony's
the chief technical officer at the new

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york public library uh formerly doing
the same things at the bbc and the

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guardian in england and uh and and we
knew we didn't have enough uh people

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from great britain coming to this
conference uh is our form of diversity

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um and so uh tony in his conversation i
asked a group of us some of whom i think

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all of whom were here uh today and asked
us uh what does a bookless library

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looked like
he said i'm creating a bookless library

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and what does that look like
and he said this with a certain amount

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of
shock and

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startling

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attention
to the fact that he was creating

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something that he didn't particularly i
think like

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um
and so i think what the conversation

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over the next two days is all about
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bringing these people together bringing
the great panelists group that groups

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that that we have and all of you
uh is if anything about the soul of the

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library what is a library today what
will it be in the future what are we

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doing for the community where is our
leverage point in the community where is

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our importance
in the community and so i'll leave you

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with that thought
i don't know what will actually come out

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of this whether it will be research
orientation of the imls of best

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practices
a call to action

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about reading
or simply a redoubling of what we do

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today so well in our communities but i
do not know it's a conversation that

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we've got to have and
i'm really glad i'm having it with you

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so i'll turn it over to terry devoe to
explain what we're doing

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brene brown's calling this the great
awkward you can see i'm navigating it

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already
um i'm terry devoe from imls and i'm so

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happy you're all here
i normally have more of a backstage role

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at our agency administering grants to
the wonderful state library

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administrative agencies some of whom are
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but because we have a very packed agenda
i'm gonna go

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to show you that over the next one and a
half days we're trying to fit in a lot

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as crosby has sort of outlined for us
my main role as the facilitator in this

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event is just to keep us moving
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i am aided by our fabulous organizers in
the wings they are all over

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and we collectively are going to keep
this moving on track

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we are collectively the yin to crosby's
yang he can expound on all the wonderful

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philosophical things and we'll come back
to the timing

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we're the collective brain or brawn i
should say to his brains

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but we are so happy you're here and we
welcome you to washington d.c

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it's our deep desire throughout the next
few days to ensure

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a safe space for everyone
in this venue we have some requirements

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and some flexibility so we're going to
do our best to navigate both

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masks are required inside the common
areas these include the lobby downstairs

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all of the hallways and the restrooms
masks are not required in this fourth

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floor venue that we are in together
so to navigate people's personal

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preferences in this fourth floor level
we're using stickers on our

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name badges
um if you have a green sticker we are

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signaling that you're open to handshakes
or hugs

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yellow is more like a fist bump or an
elbow bump and red means you're really

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social distancing still

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there are restrooms on all floors this
this restroom on our floor is a single

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restroom gender neutral so if you want
more options you can head down the

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stairs or the elevator on this side it's
a little easier to access the multi-unit

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restrooms which are just a floor below
us and there are restaurants on all the

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other floors as well

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all the food
is packaged as single serve to also keep

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us safe
and we'll have snacks throughout the day

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and a lunch for you a grab and go style
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crosby touched on and that could be used
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so now it uh it is a real honor for me
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we we're going to present to you uh
virtually uh bob putnam the malcolm

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research professor of public policy at
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national academy of sciences a fellow of
the british academy tim and tony

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co-author on upswing worked with him on
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divides and unites
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back to community as she says and
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unlimited uh a venture in catalyzing
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in my 15 years at the kansas city public
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and certainly in his work uh
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book the best thinking about social
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uh in bowling alone he chronicled the
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family and even friendship declining and
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personal book a book about port clinton
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he wrote about the the decline
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decline in mobility uh from his
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growing class gaps are precisely the
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across america today family stability
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the continuation of school quality take
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community cohesion and income inequality
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america came together a century ago the
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uh danielle allen
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the view that equality and freedom are
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abandoned our declaration they have
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dangerous if we abandon equality we lose
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that more freedom necessarily entails
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perfectly compatible with community
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shayla and romney garrett and bob putnam
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what
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in which freedom and equality have to be
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i think actually maybe i'm coming next
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and uh wait for my turn i can see you
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well let's go back just a second because
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um who correctly reports that he and i
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of that story so
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how america came together a century ago
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america today
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fragmentation in america
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the degree of cultural self-centeredness
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if uh i'm a numbers person and if you

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like numbers you're you've come to the
right place i'm going to use a lot of

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numbers here but if you don't like
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don't worry it means you know part of it
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don't if you happen to be a non-numbers
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your eyes
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what's in these charts
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know of all the charts that i'm going to
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is history american history running over
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and that this is now basically uh
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right now we're out we're down and down
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each of these charts
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change in america
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society or whatever in this case
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political comedy
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polarization is
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i'm sorry polarization is down and
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is up
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probably just talk through this chart
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about over at the beginning of the at
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politics
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was tribal
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across party lines i'm going to skip
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it of course because i'm a numbers guy
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which ordinary citizens like or dislike
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many different measures they all saw the
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what they show is
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of the 20th century america was very
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in that began to change in the early
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become a little more
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amazingly

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unpolarized that is lots of political
cooperation across party lines

444
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.240
symbolized by dwight eisenhower who was
president at the time

445
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.519
who was
almost certainly the least partisan

446
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:27.840
president in american history except for
george washington he could have run for

447
00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:31.440
either he could have voted for the
presidency in either party i do not mean

448
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.279
that eisenhower caused that
i only mean that he reflected the degree

449
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.440
in which
people cooperated across party lines and

450
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.880
they didn't think basically about their
own party they thought about the

451
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.399
national welfare
and that continued into the 60s but then

452
00:33:46.399 --> 00:33:50.320
as you can see toward the end of the 60s
and into the 70s that begins to change

453
00:33:50.320 --> 00:33:54.480
and then suddenly we begin to begin
to plummeting um

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00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.840
uh cooperation or increasing
polarization

455
00:33:57.840 --> 00:34:01.760
down down down through the 80s and down
through the 90s and

456
00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:06.320
down through the 2000s and down through
the 2000s and tens

457
00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:10.800
and until now and if we actually if they
we if we put on the graph the res the

458
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.359
numbers up to now it would be even lower
we're amazingly polarized we're back

459
00:34:15.359 --> 00:34:19.839
even worse than we were 125 years ago
now let me pause just for a second some

460
00:34:19.839 --> 00:34:23.520
people think that
in terms of american public polarization

461
00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:28.800
politics today that a lot of this was
the call it was the consequence of um

462
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:33.280
of ex-president
trump but as you can see trump is can't

463
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.520
be the cause of this he comes in way too
late he doesn't enter american politics

464
00:34:37.520 --> 00:34:41.440
until this trend has been going down for
three or four decades so this story

465
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:46.399
is the broad angle the wide-angle view
of how american politics have changed

466
00:34:46.399 --> 00:34:49.440
over the last 125 years now i'm going to
be a little

467
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.560
more quick as we go through the other
dimensions of change let's have the next

468
00:34:52.560 --> 00:34:56.720
slide please
the next slide here same horizontal axis

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00:34:56.720 --> 00:35:01.119
from the
1890s over to the ninth over to today

470
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.599
this graph began this is a measure of
the gap between rich and poor

471
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:10.720
um and it the graph actually begins in
the 1910s because that's the period when

472
00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:13.280
we begin to have really hard evidence
that's when the

473
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.880
irs is created we begin to have really
good evidence on the distribution of

474
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.800
income and of
uh and of wealth in america and you can

475
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.920
see
when the when the curtain rises america

476
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.880
is very very unequal
and that continues

477
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:33.200
um for the first uh 10 years of the
measure and then

478
00:35:33.200 --> 00:35:37.040
and then it accepted it it's rising a
little bit there's a pause during the

479
00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:41.760
1920s that's the that's the gilded age
that's when once again inequality is

480
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:46.320
rising as you go from
from the 1920 to to the late 20s that's

481
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.760
the gilded age you can see it in the in
the numbers but then

482
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.839
coming out of the gilded age long before
years before the new deal you can see

483
00:35:53.839 --> 00:35:59.040
that in the 30s
america was becoming steadily more equal

484
00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:02.480
by that i mean the gap between rich and
poor was rising and that's true whether

485
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.480
we measured it in terms of
of income or in terms of wealth whether

486
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.760
we talk about the degree to which
you could rise from the bottom of

487
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.320
society the top
to the top rungs of the of the economy

488
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:18.000
every year as you can see through the
30s and through the 40s and through the

489
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.160
50s steadily more equal
and that keeps rising

490
00:36:22.160 --> 00:36:28.400
um and in rising even during the 50s and
hits the peak just about the 1960s looks

491
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.560
a little similar to that other graph
and then suddenly surprisingly that

492
00:36:32.560 --> 00:36:36.320
begins to change when we were let me
pause up at the top there at the top

493
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.800
there in the 1960s
we were very equal america was a more

494
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.359
egalitarian society in terms of the
distribution of income than sweden or

495
00:36:45.359 --> 00:36:49.200
denmark all those
nordic social democracies we were even

496
00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:54.160
more equal than they are but that ended
in the late 60s you can see we begin to

497
00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:57.200
become
suddenly more less equal the gap between

498
00:36:57.200 --> 00:37:02.000
rich and poor grows steadily through the
70s and especially in the 80s

499
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.240
and 90s
down through the 2000s

500
00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:10.320
you can see over there at the right hand
side for just for a second in the in the

501
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.160
period around 19 around 2010 it looked
like maybe that was ending but no no if

502
00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:16.720
you kept on the graph
um

503
00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:22.320
with trump and the and the epidemic and
so on now down in eggs way down way way

504
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:26.880
even further down this is
we are now way over there in terms of

505
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.880
economic equality
so that's another church it's actually a

506
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.839
little similar to the previous chart it
shows how

507
00:37:33.839 --> 00:37:37.839
our economy
began by being unequal

508
00:37:37.839 --> 00:37:41.359
and then there was this half century
long rise to the

509
00:37:41.359 --> 00:37:45.200
to the equality of the middle to the
20th century and then suddenly this

510
00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:49.359
collapsed back down even worse than ever
before let's have the next slide

511
00:37:49.359 --> 00:37:52.720
now where the next slide is looking at
social cohesion or what i sometimes call

512
00:37:52.720 --> 00:37:56.480
social capital that's the degree to
which we're connected with our family

513
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.720
and our friends and our neighbors and
our community institutions

514
00:38:00.720 --> 00:38:04.960
and again you can see down at the end of
the 1990s children will have a chance to

515
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.839
say a little bit more about what that
looked like but at the end of the

516
00:38:07.839 --> 00:38:12.880
of the 19th century america was
americans were very disconnected they

517
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:17.119
didn't because they just moved from
rural small towns where they knew

518
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.040
everybody into the big anonymous cities
and people were didn't know their

519
00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:24.160
friends and neighbors and and they
separated from their families and so on

520
00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:28.000
and so we were very
disconnected from one another low social

521
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.880
capital but then again as you can see as
we entered the

522
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.240
the night of the 20th century there
around 1900 suddenly that begins to

523
00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:37.280
improve and
the degree of social connection with

524
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.040
with as i say with family and friends
and neighbors and

525
00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:45.280
um so on begins to rise steadily rises
through the

526
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.320
teens and in the 1920s again there's a
little bit of pause in the 1920s but

527
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.280
then coming out of the 20s probably the
greatest into the 30s and 40s probably

528
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.240
the greatest civic boom in american
history

529
00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:00.720
every
our we were

530
00:39:00.720 --> 00:39:04.079
we were having kids we were getting
married at record levels we were having

531
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.440
kids at record levels that's the baby
boom period we were

532
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.240
joining clubs we were
uh getting to know our neighbors

533
00:39:12.240 --> 00:39:17.119
steadily through the 50s and 60s and
into this into the 60s and then suddenly

534
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.560
up there at the top in the middle of the
1960s suddenly silently mysteriously

535
00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:26.880
people stopped going to
clubs they stopped joining bowling

536
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:32.400
leagues um they stopped getting married
quite so frequently they didn't know

537
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.000
their neighbors as well and then as you
can see there

538
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.320
once again
into the 70s and into the 80s it just

539
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.119
goes down down down more and more social
isolation less and less connection with

540
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.119
our friends and neighbors
and again it stops there the data

541
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:54.079
stopped there in the in the um
in the in the middle of the of the you

542
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.400
know roughly 2015 is where the data go
to but it just keeps falling

543
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.200
down down down further and further now
if you go back go back up the curve just

544
00:40:03.200 --> 00:40:08.319
to two to two thousand
to point to the curve that's where the

545
00:40:08.319 --> 00:40:12.400
book bowling alone was
was published and at that point i was

546
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.160
describing the previous two or three
decades of that downturn bowling alone

547
00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:19.280
was basically a story only about this
chart

548
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.680
and only about those three decades from
the

549
00:40:22.680 --> 00:40:28.640
1970s to the to or three or four decades
to about 2000 but remarkably as you can

550
00:40:28.640 --> 00:40:31.040
see
i wrote the book and then it just

551
00:40:31.040 --> 00:40:34.480
continued straight down that is real
prediction the social sciences

552
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.040
it kept getting worse and worse and
worse

553
00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:42.319
and and now as i say we're back down to
the level as we were in the at the

554
00:40:42.319 --> 00:40:46.640
beginning at the end of the 19th century
let's go quickly to the next slide

555
00:40:46.640 --> 00:40:51.200
this is a um
this next slide is a about

556
00:40:51.200 --> 00:40:56.400
um what we call social cultural
solidarity here i really wish i had more

557
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.359
time to talk to you about the
how we measure this because i'm really

558
00:40:59.359 --> 00:41:02.079
proud we have about its culture seems
like a pretty

559
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:08.480
squishy idea but we've got some really
hard measures about the degree to which

560
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.280
americans have thought of themselves as
even either

561
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:18.480
being each of us
in it only for ourselves

562
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.200
or
we're all in this together

563
00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:25.119
and it turns out you can actually
measure the degree to which americans as

564
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:31.680
a whole thought of ourselves as either
each of us out for his what was it for

565
00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:33.680
me
or

566
00:41:33.680 --> 00:41:38.240
conversely thought of ourselves as being
basically in the same boat all this

567
00:41:38.240 --> 00:41:42.400
together and we rise or fall together
at the end of the 19th century and

568
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:47.440
shailin will surely say more about this
at the end of the 19th century americans

569
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.760
we're unbelievably
focused i think we could call it i focus

570
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:55.680
very much focused on self-interest
um

571
00:41:55.680 --> 00:41:59.520
not just but thinking it was a good
thing we should be just focus on number

572
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:02.240
one
but then as you see once again beginning

573
00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:05.680
in the early years of the 20th century
that begins to change and we begin to be

574
00:42:05.680 --> 00:42:10.400
a little less focused on eye a little
more focused on we steadily upward

575
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.599
during the
1910s again there's that pause during

576
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.839
the 1920s but then again beginning in
1930 roughly

577
00:42:17.839 --> 00:42:22.720
again steadily upward more and more
focused on what we have in common

578
00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:27.119
and what we owe to one another
steadily upwards until

579
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:34.880
amazingly the same middle 60s and and
middle 60s is when we were basically

580
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.319
compared to ourselves in the past or
even compared to other countries we had

581
00:42:38.319 --> 00:42:42.880
a very kind of communitarian sense that
we were all in this together and that we

582
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:48.000
should look out for one another but then
again at almost that same day

583
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.040
that begins to change and we begin to
focus more on more in our self-interests

584
00:42:53.040 --> 00:42:59.280
i would say our selfish interests
down down down down

585
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.160
down
and once again

586
00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:06.880
this graph happens to end about you know
uh five or six years ago but if we kept

587
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.319
on the graph it keeps going down further
americans

588
00:43:10.319 --> 00:43:15.760
are maybe not quite as focused on
self-interest as we were 125 years ago

589
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.280
but but nearly so
now i want to put all those charts

590
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.440
together
and

591
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.800
let's see what they look like
here we've just put all those same

592
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.520
charts on the same graph you can see
economics and politics and society and

593
00:43:29.520 --> 00:43:32.960
culture
and

594
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:37.599
this graph
passes what statisticians call the

595
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.079
interocular
interocular trauma test

596
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.440
it hits you between the eyes
but there's something similar here

597
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.359
something going on here it's not four
separate stories it's one story as

598
00:43:49.359 --> 00:43:55.119
america or moved at the from the at the
end of the 19th century from very much

599
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.640
an eye focus
economic inequality political

600
00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:03.200
polarization social isolation and
cultural narcissism

601
00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:06.880
toward a we society in the middle of the
20th century

602
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:12.560
in 1960s roughly
we were focused we were relatively equal

603
00:44:12.560 --> 00:44:16.960
we were politically cooperative we were
socially connected and we were

604
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.720
culturally focused on we
and then

605
00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:24.560
almost symmetrically and almost
simultaneously all of those charts go

606
00:44:24.560 --> 00:44:28.160
down
that's not it and what it is what we're

607
00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:30.880
saying is those are not four separate
charts that's

608
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.880
a fundamental history of how america
changed

609
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.000
over the course of the
from the end of the 19th the beginning

610
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.800
of the 21st century and if you go
quickly to the next chart we put all

611
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:44.000
these together
that's the trend

612
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:48.000
that basically is the core empirical
study

613
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.119
of
our book the upswing you can see

614
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:55.200
they're beginning in the the first half
of this period things are getting better

615
00:44:55.200 --> 00:44:58.480
and better almost every year things are
getting better more equal more

616
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:02.720
cooperative more connected more focused
on what we have in common

617
00:45:02.720 --> 00:45:07.680
and then almost simultaneously in the in
the second half of this period we move

618
00:45:07.680 --> 00:45:10.880
in the other direction
now shaylin is going to

619
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.839
take over here and tell you a little bit
more about what may like behind that

620
00:45:13.839 --> 00:45:17.440
graph but especially she's going to
focus on so what

621
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:21.920
because we're focused here not just on
describing history but we want to draw

622
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.839
some lessons from history to say how do
we get out of this pickle that we're in

623
00:45:25.839 --> 00:45:30.400
now and sheila is going to
explain that

624
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.839
say
bob and i feel like we make a pretty

625
00:45:33.839 --> 00:45:37.359
good team here because he's the numbers
guy he's of course the world-class data

626
00:45:37.359 --> 00:45:42.319
scientist and um and i'm the storyteller
he's also a fantastic storyteller but

627
00:45:42.319 --> 00:45:46.560
and he's taught me pretty much
everything i know about that um

628
00:45:46.560 --> 00:45:49.920
so if you if you've gone to sleep with
regard to the numbers now is your chance

629
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.079
to wake up and join me in the land of
the non-numbers people

630
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.400
and i want to pick up the story here by
talking about by going back to the

631
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.680
question that bob started with which is
how did we get here right that was the

632
00:46:01.680 --> 00:46:06.319
motivating question behind this research
we all recognize

633
00:46:06.319 --> 00:46:09.920
from our day-to-day experience that we
are in the midst of a multi-faceted

634
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.680
crisis as a nation that's not something
that the numbers we need numbers to tell

635
00:46:13.680 --> 00:46:16.240
us
but

636
00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:20.880
how did we get here and and ours is not
the first study that attempts to answer

637
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.319
that question
there have been so many books actually

638
00:46:24.319 --> 00:46:27.680
in the past decade attempting to answer
that question

639
00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:30.960
that one of the reviewers of our book
said this is just the latest edition in

640
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.440
the how america got into this mess genre
of literature right

641
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.560
but we tend to think that our studies a
little bit different in that most of

642
00:46:38.560 --> 00:46:42.319
these books are looking at one of these
phenomena just polarization or it's all

643
00:46:42.319 --> 00:46:45.599
about inequality
and we're looking at the fact that all

644
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.240
of these are part of the same thing the
same trend that's one difference the

645
00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:54.480
other difference is that we tend to zoom
our lens out a lot further there's been

646
00:46:54.480 --> 00:47:00.000
a lot of books written about the decline
over the last half century or more in

647
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.200
one or many of these different phenomena
but less clear is the story of what

648
00:47:05.200 --> 00:47:09.839
happened before that so if there's been
a decline since mid-century america what

649
00:47:09.839 --> 00:47:14.319
happened before the decline and as we
can see so clearly in what bob has

650
00:47:14.319 --> 00:47:17.599
discovered through this this data-based
story

651
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.400
is that there was actually an upswing
that preceded the downturn

652
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.119
so when you ask yourself what's the
lesson

653
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.720
from all of this data and each of the
graphs that we showed you represent

654
00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:33.359
scores of underlying measures so we're
talking about you know all kinds of

655
00:47:33.359 --> 00:47:36.800
different measures um so disparate
that's kind of hard to believe that they

656
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.240
all follow the same trend we're talking
about things like how often congress

657
00:47:40.240 --> 00:47:44.400
people you know vote for legislation
introduced by the other party as well as

658
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.280
you know what people have named their
children whether they've chosen more

659
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.640
common names or more uncommon names over
the course i mean all of these data

660
00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:54.240
points very very different measures are
combined here and are illustrating the

661
00:47:54.240 --> 00:47:57.280
same trend
now there's one way that you could look

662
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.880
at this story which is that we need to
just turn back the clock

663
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.319
to this supposed golden age in american
history when everything was better i

664
00:48:04.319 --> 00:48:07.359
mean we can see it right here in the
chart right

665
00:48:07.359 --> 00:48:12.400
and and we've seen that rhetoric a lot
particularly in the last several years

666
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:16.559
right
that we need to make america great again

667
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.000
now we want to emphasize that this is
not the story that we want to tell from

668
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.760
this data
the story here to us what's less

669
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.839
relevant to us is looking at the period
in history when these trends supposedly

670
00:48:27.839 --> 00:48:31.680
culminated when we're at some sort of
peak that's actually less interesting

671
00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:35.599
than the realization that
this multifaceted crisis that we are in

672
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:41.440
right now we have been here before
by hard measures across scores of

673
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:46.240
different phenomena we have been in the
exact same place that we are in today

674
00:48:46.240 --> 00:48:50.000
once before
and just like today

675
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:55.119
the social commentators from the first
gilded age during the 1890s

676
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:59.119
1900s
were decrying the end of democracy the

677
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:03.359
american experiment has failed
plutocracy tyranny all is lost does that

678
00:49:03.359 --> 00:49:06.480
sound familiar
but

679
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.839
what the story of the upswing tells us
is that none of those doomsday

680
00:49:09.839 --> 00:49:13.920
prophecies were realized
it didn't happen

681
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.960
on the contrary
we entered

682
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:22.480
a multi-faceted multi-decade upswing in
which year upon year

683
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.839
the ship righted itself
so the question of our study is what can

684
00:49:27.839 --> 00:49:32.240
we learn from the upswing the moment
that looked most like the moment we're

685
00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:36.880
living through that gave way to a period
of things getting better and better what

686
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.559
can we learn from that moment
in terms of how we could bring about

687
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.160
another upswing today
so i want to highlight just a few

688
00:49:44.160 --> 00:49:48.079
lessons from this period when the
upswing when the gilded age gave way to

689
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.599
the progressive era
which is when this upswing really picked

690
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.680
up steam now before i do that i want to
just pause and clarify that when we're

691
00:49:55.680 --> 00:50:00.000
using the term progressive in this
presentation we're using what we call

692
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.000
capital p progressive
meaning the historical period or the

693
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:08.160
movement that took place during the
early 1900s

694
00:50:08.160 --> 00:50:12.480
and historians have called the
progressive movement of that time so

695
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:18.079
diverse as to be barely coherent
it was a bipartisan movement that

696
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:23.359
included all different types of people
different genders different classes

697
00:50:23.359 --> 00:50:27.440
and it was not what we would call
progressivism today the term that we as

698
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.280
we hear it used today is what we would
call small p progressivism which

699
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.119
describes the left-most side of the
political spectrum okay so when we're

700
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.240
talking about progressivism we're
talking about this historical movement

701
00:50:38.240 --> 00:50:43.520
that was incredibly diverse but that was
animated and united by this galvanizing

702
00:50:43.520 --> 00:50:46.800
belief
in the power of everyday citizens to

703
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:49.599
make change
that's the progressivism we're talking

704
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.680
about so if we go to the next slide
let's look at a few of these lessons

705
00:50:53.680 --> 00:50:58.240
from america's last upswing this moment
when the progressive era began to to

706
00:50:58.240 --> 00:51:03.040
change the course of american history so
as bob noted we're looking at you know

707
00:51:03.040 --> 00:51:06.640
all of these this is a data-based story
so we're looking at all these different

708
00:51:06.640 --> 00:51:11.680
measures and when you have trends over
time that start to all move in the same

709
00:51:11.680 --> 00:51:16.240
direction at roughly the same moment you
might say to yourself well if we could

710
00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:21.040
figure out what the leading variable is
in other words which of those trends

711
00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:23.839
started moving in the right direction
first

712
00:51:23.839 --> 00:51:27.119
if we could figure that out then maybe
we would know what was driving or

713
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.160
leading
the rest of the variables to go upward

714
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:35.119
right so the question is statistically
can we identify that well

715
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.800
the first thing that we can identify
is actually the lagging variable the

716
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.520
thing that happened last which
surprisingly turns out to be economics

717
00:51:43.520 --> 00:51:48.000
we kind of have this bias in american
culture that economics drives everything

718
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.440
and i think that comes mostly out of the
social sciences where people are often

719
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:55.359
treated as economic animals
we tend to think if we could just fix

720
00:51:55.359 --> 00:51:59.680
the economic inequality first
then we'll start to feel like we're all

721
00:51:59.680 --> 00:52:03.680
in this together and those other big
trends will begin to change well we're

722
00:52:03.680 --> 00:52:06.800
not saying that fixing economic
inequality is not important it's

723
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.800
absolutely critical but what we do learn
from the last upswing is that it is not

724
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.760
the thing that changed first it's the
thing that changed last

725
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.559
so what do we learn from that there may
be underlying things that we need to get

726
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.400
moving in the right direction first
before we'll have the political will to

727
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.960
change our economics that's potentially
one lesson we can learn here so if we

728
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:33.359
know that economic equality was the
lagging variable what was the leading

729
00:52:33.359 --> 00:52:37.520
variable
it seems clear from both the data and

730
00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:42.960
the historical record
that it was a cultural and moral shift

731
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.680
that actually began to change first
bob spoke briefly about this but the

732
00:52:47.680 --> 00:52:52.319
gilded age again end of the 19th century
beginning of the 20th century was

733
00:52:52.319 --> 00:52:56.240
characterized by a highly narcissistic
self-focused culture

734
00:52:56.240 --> 00:53:00.880
and a big part of that was something
called social darwinism so not too long

735
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.960
before this darwin had articulated his
theory of the survival of the fittest

736
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:09.440
which of course was meant to describe
the natural world and how it worked but

737
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:12.000
there were social commentators that came
along and said well if that's how the

738
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.680
biological world works that's how the
social world should work

739
00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:18.240
and that's a great way to organize
society

740
00:53:18.240 --> 00:53:21.760
and darwin himself was not there's some
evidence that he was not very excited

741
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.440
about this idea um just to sort of clear
his name a bit

742
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.880
but um
but there were people who really took

743
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.400
this to heart and said you know society
is not about cooperation it's about

744
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:38.079
competition and only the strong will
survive and the devil take the hindmost

745
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.440
that was really the reigning cultural
ethos of the day

746
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:45.440
and into that and that's what produced
the robber barons right

747
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:49.040
and the huddled masses on the lower east
side and equivalent places all over the

748
00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:54.079
united states
into that moment came moral voices that

749
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.119
began to question that as an organizing
principle of our society

750
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.559
and this interestingly moral movement
came first and foremost out of

751
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:08.000
evangelical protestantism
it was christians who began to say first

752
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.400
to themselves
i don't think we're actually living our

753
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.520
own moral values
and there was a movement called the

754
00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:20.319
social gospel that began to say now wait
a minute at the time christianity and

755
00:54:20.319 --> 00:54:24.079
the theology of christianity was very
much focused on me and my personal

756
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:27.520
relationship with god and my personal
sins and whether i was going to get into

757
00:54:27.520 --> 00:54:31.119
heaven and everybody else's that was
everybody else's business not my

758
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.760
business
the social gospels came along and said

759
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.559
wait a minute we can't just apply our
morality

760
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:42.640
to our own life we have to apply it to
society and think about social sins and

761
00:54:42.640 --> 00:54:47.119
how we can begin to change those
that first took root in christianity it

762
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:52.000
began and then it took root more broadly
until we had a sort of moral outcry

763
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.480
happening
through the muckrakers and all these

764
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:58.880
people trying to bring to light what was
really happening and call for change

765
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.280
and so this was this was the first trend
that we began to move upward that began

766
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:07.680
to change the way we thought
about whether we were all in competition

767
00:55:07.680 --> 00:55:12.160
or whether we were all in this together
so that's a really important lesson we

768
00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:17.040
think from this period
so who were these progressive reformers

769
00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:23.440
who were having these moral moments they
were largely young they were very young

770
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:26.960
the jane adams's who started the
settlement house movement and the paul

771
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:32.240
harris's who started the rotary club and
the ida b wells who was out there you

772
00:55:32.240 --> 00:55:37.680
know um showing forth to the nation the
evils of lynching they were all under

773
00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:41.599
the age of 30 when they were doing their
most important work

774
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:45.839
these were young people who were living
in a world completely different

775
00:55:45.839 --> 00:55:49.680
from the world that their parents had
lived in the industrial revolution had

776
00:55:49.680 --> 00:55:54.079
changed everything and the old rules and
the old institutions and the old social

777
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:58.160
structures just didn't apply and so
these young reformers were energized

778
00:55:58.160 --> 00:56:03.440
with a totally new innovative lens on
what we would have to build to move the

779
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:07.280
nation forward
and we believe that today

780
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.520
any upswing that we will that we will
see has to be led

781
00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:16.319
architected orchestrated by young people
just as it was last time young people

782
00:56:16.319 --> 00:56:21.599
who are not afraid to use a moral
framework to call for change

783
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:25.359
and we're inspired by the fact that we
are already seeing this we're seeing it

784
00:56:25.359 --> 00:56:28.240
in the climate change movement we're
seeing it in the black lives matter

785
00:56:28.240 --> 00:56:33.119
movement we're seeing it in the calls
for gun control young people who want

786
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:37.280
change and who are framing it as a moral
issue

787
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:41.440
so we think that there's cause for hope
there as well as cause for hope in in

788
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.559
youth voter participation numbers which
have

789
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:48.559
never been higher except in this exact
same era that we're describing the last

790
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:54.160
upswing
another lesson from this period

791
00:56:54.160 --> 00:56:57.359
is that these young reformers these
young progressives

792
00:56:57.359 --> 00:57:03.520
they were all about association building
and association as both an end and a

793
00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:06.319
means
so what does that mean well if you look

794
00:57:06.319 --> 00:57:10.559
at the story of paul harris he came from
a small town in vermont moved to chicago

795
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:14.559
he was part of that huge demographic
shift during the industrial revolution

796
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:18.480
he became a lawyer and he was very
lonely he just didn't know anybody in

797
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:22.160
that town so he decided to get three
business people together to start

798
00:57:22.160 --> 00:57:25.040
something that was sort of like a lunch
club

799
00:57:25.040 --> 00:57:29.440
and it became the rotary club which of
course has you know

800
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:33.440
multiple millions of members worldwide
but it was really just first and

801
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:38.160
foremost about meeting his need his
loneliness a new way to bring people

802
00:57:38.160 --> 00:57:42.559
together
but progressives were also geniuses at

803
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.000
bringing people together across lines of
difference the social settlement house

804
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.799
movement is my favorite of those
movements that was really intended to

805
00:57:50.799 --> 00:57:54.400
bring people who never had any contact
with one another into contact with one

806
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.440
another and we of course know that
libraries

807
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.359
are another
of the inventions of this period that do

808
00:58:01.359 --> 00:58:06.400
exactly that
so association was first and foremost

809
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:10.240
about meeting that social isolation that
we saw in the graphs but then it became

810
00:58:10.240 --> 00:58:14.799
a means for creating change over time

811
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:18.799
the other thing to know about this
period was that

812
00:58:18.799 --> 00:58:22.079
there was no real charismatic leader out
there saying i'm going to lead a

813
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.200
progressive movement here's a giant
national blueprint for how we're going

814
00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:28.000
to change everything

815
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.640
the progressive air is often framed this
way in sort of cartoon histories that it

816
00:58:32.640 --> 00:58:35.440
was all about these big national
programs

817
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:39.440
but actually those big programs the
consumer protection agencies and the

818
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.640
national income tax and all those things
were sort of the caboose of this

819
00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:46.319
movement the engine was grassroots
organizing

820
00:58:46.319 --> 00:58:51.839
was people working in
communities right outside their doorstep

821
00:58:51.839 --> 00:58:57.440
in tenements in neighborhoods in
municipalities tinkering with solutions

822
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:02.319
in what the progressive louis brandeis
called laboratories of democracy

823
00:59:02.319 --> 00:59:07.599
coming up with new models for how to
solve problems that then went viral and

824
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:11.760
became things that became adopted in
other states and other places and then

825
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:15.359
some of which became models for national
programs that changed the face of the

826
00:59:15.359 --> 00:59:18.480
nation
so there was nobody laying out a grand

827
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:23.599
plan that then went from the top down it
started as a bottom up and was met from

828
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:27.920
the top down with national programming
we believe that that is what another

829
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.599
upswing is going to have to look like
today so the work that you are all doing

830
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:37.200
out there on the front lines of your
communities is the absolute most vital

831
00:59:37.200 --> 00:59:40.880
work of a new upswing

832
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.160
so those are some of the positive
lessons of this period i just want to

833
00:59:44.160 --> 00:59:48.480
end with sharing with you that
there aren't all positive lessons from

834
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:53.839
this period of the upswing right
there are several cautionary tales as

835
00:59:53.839 --> 00:59:56.000
well
and i don't have time to share all of

836
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.799
them with you and i have only a little
time to touch on this briefly i wish

837
00:59:58.799 --> 01:00:02.400
there was more time to go in depth but i
will just say this

838
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.440
one of the biggest cautionary tales of
the progressive era

839
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:11.680
is simply that this we the progressives
were building toward was not inclusive

840
01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:17.200
it was largely a racialized we
and

841
01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:21.040
not to put too fine a point on it but
you know most of the progressives not

842
01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:25.680
all of them but most of them were racist
so a lot of the programs that they built

843
01:00:25.680 --> 01:00:31.040
that actually fueled this upswing that
got us closer to

844
01:00:31.040 --> 01:00:35.920
we than we'd ever been before
had to knit into them the seeds of their

845
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:42.400
own demise because they failed to take
into account the need for full inclusion

846
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:46.079
as we've seen so many times in american
history the progressives too largely

847
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.079
kicked the work of racial reconciliation
down the road

848
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.599
and the needs of people of color and to
a certain extent women were sort of

849
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:59.280
sacrificed on the altar of progress
so any upswing that we would hope to

850
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:04.319
create again today can't kick that
problem down the road anymore

851
01:01:04.319 --> 01:01:07.760
and i think one of the things that we
can learn putting all these lessons

852
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:11.920
together is that the beginning of an
upswing today is going to be about a

853
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.920
cultural and a moral shift
and the place that that has to start is

854
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.520
with inclusion
it's not just about programs and

855
01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:24.559
policies and economic equality it's
about doing the hard work of racial

856
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:30.079
reconciliation
to create a new north star for what a

857
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:34.400
real inclusive we could look like
if we could do that

858
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.400
and mobilize at the grassroots and get
our young people involved and put

859
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.400
association across lines of difference
at the first at the forefront of what

860
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:46.880
we're doing we believe that we can see
another upswing one that hopefully will

861
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:51.680
be durable
and will lead us closer to that ideal

862
01:01:51.680 --> 01:01:55.680
beloved community that we know is
possible

863
01:01:55.680 --> 01:01:58.480
these are just a few of the lessons from
this period there's so much more we

864
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.000
could say i wish we had more time but i
will just leave you with one parting

865
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:07.119
thought if we can go to the next slide
teddy roosevelt

866
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.720
who became one of the most articulate
leaders of the progressive movement said

867
01:02:10.720 --> 01:02:13.839
this
the fundamental rule of our national

868
01:02:13.839 --> 01:02:20.240
life the rule which underlies all others
is that on the whole and in the long run

869
01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:25.599
we shall go up or down together
we believe that what these graphs and

870
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:30.240
charts and statistics show is that when
we lean into we

871
01:02:30.240 --> 01:02:34.400
things get better and better
and when we lean into i

872
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.799
things get worse and worse
in the words of one of my colleagues who

873
01:02:38.799 --> 01:02:44.559
i love to quote eric lou he says we all
do better when we all do better

874
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:48.720
that's what the data shows us that's the
story that we want to tell today we

875
01:02:48.720 --> 01:02:52.079
believe that we've been in a mess just
as ugly and gnarly as the one we're in

876
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:56.640
today but we got out of it once before
we made a lot of mistakes that we don't

877
01:02:56.640 --> 01:03:00.079
have to make again today but we believe
that we can do it again

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01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:03.039
and that's the hopeful message that we
want to share with you today and we're

879
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:06.480
of course humbled and inspired by the
fact that you're already doing it so

880
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:10.319
we're really grateful to be here and
share this message with civic innovators

881
01:03:10.319 --> 01:03:13.680
such as yourself who are making this
happen all across america today thank

882
01:03:13.680 --> 01:03:17.079
you so much

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01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.720
so
thank you so much shaylyn thank you bob

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01:03:30.720 --> 01:03:34.960
and and now we'd like to get three
panelists up here to to talk

885
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.880
uh uh about what what we've just heard
from shaylynn and bob

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01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:43.599
um and and i think they are all three
people who

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01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.039
are putting the wii in the upswing in
fact i think we should call them up

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01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:50.880
swingers
um

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01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:56.079
so diane connery uh
if you would come up diane uh is the

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01:03:56.079 --> 01:04:01.359
pottsboro librarian pottsboro texas
the postboro library has been getting

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01:04:01.359 --> 01:04:04.319
known and diane's been getting known
over the last few years as one of the

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01:04:04.319 --> 01:04:08.880
great libraries in the country in rural
rural texas one that voted one of the

893
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:13.039
top three best small libraries in
america in 2017

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01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.240
and
diane herself was honored as an

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01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:20.880
innovator in library journals mover and
shakers class of 2021 and those of us

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01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.920
who've been on the many calls that we've
all resumed calls that we've all had

897
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:28.000
about what we're doing
in the library world and know that diane

898
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:31.680
is doing so much in the way of outreach
digital outreach and every kind of

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01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:35.760
outreach in in her community i've
already mentioned carmen patel and

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01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.480
carmen please
come up

901
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.640
the highwood public library in highwood
illinois getting our national medal the

902
01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:46.640
the truth about carmen is that she's won
it twice she did it uh before in

903
01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:50.720
waukegan uh as well she was partly
responsible or significantly responsible

904
01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:56.720
for that uh uh the imls has given her
two gold medals and and i'm uh two

905
01:04:56.720 --> 01:05:01.520
national medals and i'm sorry that's it
for this decade carmen um

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01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:06.720
yeah uh and and her her uh outreach
efforts are are extraordinary across a

907
01:05:06.720 --> 01:05:10.880
wide variety of
literacy

908
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:15.359
ged english skills esl
programs

909
01:05:15.359 --> 01:05:19.119
etc and she's done work with a house of
peace a culturally informed shelter for

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01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:22.640
women and children struggling with
domestic violence uh she's an

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01:05:22.640 --> 01:05:27.520
extraordinary librarian and our last
icon of library world for this panel is

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01:05:27.520 --> 01:05:31.440
felton thomas i think everybody knows
everybody in the library world knows

913
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:37.039
felton the cleveland public library uh
director formerly

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01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:42.640
the white house champion for change in
in 2016

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01:05:42.640 --> 01:05:46.319
president of the public library
association

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01:05:46.319 --> 01:05:50.240
of america
a leader in technology education

917
01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:55.920
economic development every aspect so
take it away panelists

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01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.590
all right
[Music]

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01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:07.039
well i'll i'll start
i want to read something to you really

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01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:11.039
quickly
social well-being what is social

921
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:14.319
well-being
social well-being is having a sense of

922
01:06:14.319 --> 01:06:18.559
belonging to a community and
contributing to society it involves

923
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:22.400
building healthy
nurturing and supportive relationships

924
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:27.200
as well as fostering a genuine
connection to those around you

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01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:30.000
so
that is what highway public library has

926
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.559
done
we have nurtured a community a community

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01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:39.200
that has been neglected it's a small
town of 5400 people

928
01:06:39.200 --> 01:06:45.359
and 50 are immigrants mostly
undocumented immigrants who live in fear

929
01:06:45.359 --> 01:06:51.599
who live hidden who live invisible and
so the library is working very hard to

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01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:56.640
make them present because they are the
economic engine they are the underbelly

931
01:06:56.640 --> 01:07:02.240
of that community and so why not provide
them the resources the literacy the

932
01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:07.520
access to support that they need so our
library is focused on

933
01:07:07.520 --> 01:07:10.559
early childhood
young adult

934
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:16.240
and adult literacy we've created
programs specifically based on the needs

935
01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:21.039
of the public the public informs our
programming and so i'll give you a very

936
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:25.760
quick story about betty betty came in to
our library well she didn't want to come

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01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.559
into our library because she didn't
trust her library

938
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:35.039
but i met with her and i encouraged her
and she felt welcomed betty came in and

939
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:40.079
all she ever wanted was to get her ged
and to continue her education

940
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:46.079
so an immigrant an undocumented
immigrant now has a ged and is now on

941
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:50.160
her way to getting her business degree
at the local college

942
01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:56.160
betty is now changing
generational cycles of poverty because

943
01:07:56.160 --> 01:07:58.160
her
son

944
01:07:58.160 --> 01:08:02.880
will no longer be
invisible and her son is excited to go

945
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:07.920
to college and so
this is what the library is doing in

946
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:12.720
highwood it is transformational it is
impactful

947
01:08:12.720 --> 01:08:16.880
we have programs like i said for youth
young adult

948
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:24.000
adults and we recently received a major
grant of 578 000

949
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:29.279
to work on health equity and so getting
health access to individuals

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01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.719
so
i think we're doing a pretty decent job

951
01:08:32.719 --> 01:08:36.520
of creating upswings

952
01:08:38.200 --> 01:08:43.279
[Applause]
hi dianne connery i am here

953
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:48.159
i think as a spokesman for rural public
libraries pottsboro is about an hour and

954
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:53.440
a half north of
dallas a town of 2500 people and

955
01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:59.040
i often say it's like driving back in
time and not in a good way it's not a

956
01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:03.839
quaint little town
i have an advantage that maybe many of

957
01:09:03.839 --> 01:09:10.400
you do not and that is
we have almost no budget ten years ago

958
01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:16.000
it was an all donation
all volunteer library and the first

959
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:20.080
meeting i went to
was a discussion of how many months left

960
01:09:20.080 --> 01:09:26.239
before we closed and
long story short a group of us decided

961
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:31.040
what if we just did everything
differently and made this library so

962
01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:36.080
important to the community that then if
we were going to close people would be

963
01:09:36.080 --> 01:09:41.679
up in arms
and so through grant writing

964
01:09:41.679 --> 01:09:46.239
thank you imls and tslac
and many other

965
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:51.199
foundations we've had a lot of success
with innovation

966
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:56.560
and that's energizing to me we have been
in the position

967
01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:00.400
and the reason i said that i have an
advantage that you don't

968
01:10:00.400 --> 01:10:06.719
is there's very little bureaucracy over
a small town library if i get an idea in

969
01:10:06.719 --> 01:10:11.440
the morning i can do it that afternoon i
don't have to go to a bunch of board

970
01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:16.800
meetings
and i think i have come to library world

971
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:21.120
in
such a fortunate time

972
01:10:21.120 --> 01:10:26.960
because of covid
it was recognized what the lack of

973
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:31.679
digital inclusion meant for rural
residents

974
01:10:31.679 --> 01:10:35.920
and so
when we talk about kind of that that

975
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:41.920
social movement that then leads economic
movement there's money coming for

976
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:48.400
infrastructure for rural libraries
i was fortunate enough thanks to imls to

977
01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:52.640
attend the national digital inclusion
alliance

978
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:56.170
two weeks ago in portland
and

979
01:10:56.170 --> 01:10:59.760
[Music]
that's where librarians need to be with

980
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:07.040
these cross-sector coalitions of people
talking about how are we going to make

981
01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:11.280
real impact because if libraries are
about information

982
01:11:11.280 --> 01:11:15.040
how much of it occurs now
online

983
01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:20.480
and so our library focuses on digital
inclusion

984
01:11:20.480 --> 01:11:25.440
we started with things like an esports
team i think we were the first public

985
01:11:25.440 --> 01:11:30.640
library in the nation to have an esports
team because so many people

986
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:35.679
in our area don't have internet in their
homes and they don't have computers in

987
01:11:35.679 --> 01:11:40.560
their homes and i saw these kids and
like how will they ever be on a level

988
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:44.800
playing field with their peers from
bigger communities if they don't know

989
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:49.600
how to use a computer
and the pandemic started and we couldn't

990
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.800
close because we're so essential to the
community people didn't have internet at

991
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:59.440
home so they came to us and they started
asking us if they could connect with

992
01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:02.000
their doctors
and

993
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.480
through a national library medicine
grant we launched a telehealth room

994
01:12:06.480 --> 01:12:11.120
and then that led to
connections with national library

995
01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:16.320
medicine and health systems science
researchers and

996
01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:21.760
clinicians and health literacy
specialists and it evolved in so many

997
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:26.320
ways
and ecf funding there's so much money on

998
01:12:26.320 --> 01:12:30.880
the table
for libraries and in my

999
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:36.239
sphere that i'm aware of so few
libraries who were asking for that money

1000
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:40.719
so our all-in and pottsboro
taxpayer-funded

1001
01:12:40.719 --> 01:12:46.400
operations budget
all in 39 000 a year that's our total

1002
01:12:46.400 --> 01:12:54.800
budget we have requested fingers crossed
7.5 million dollars in ecf funding to

1003
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:59.440
put up infrastructure throughout our
county around libraries

1004
01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:03.440
so that people can have internet in
their homes

1005
01:13:03.440 --> 01:13:07.440
people who live within a mile of the
library come to our library check out a

1006
01:13:07.440 --> 01:13:13.760
router take it home and have internet in
their homes hot spots aren't a long term

1007
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:19.719
answer so at ndia they were talking
about hey government has

1008
01:13:19.719 --> 01:13:27.199
42.5 billion dollars to spend on digital
inclusion and they're not quite sure yet

1009
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:32.480
how to spend it
librarians need to be at that table and

1010
01:13:32.480 --> 01:13:36.560
when when shailene talks about
grassroots efforts

1011
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:41.760
i think and again i'm biased rural
library i think these are happening

1012
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:48.080
amazing things around the country are
happening in rural libraries but our

1013
01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:53.679
capacity is limited because we're
cleaning the bathroom and i'm spraying

1014
01:13:53.679 --> 01:13:59.840
weed killer in the edible landscaping
and you know all that kind of stuff um

1015
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:06.080
and so we don't have the time
or don't make the time to advocate for

1016
01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:10.640
the difference we're making in our
communities and that's something that i

1017
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.920
want to see come out of this
is for librarians to

1018
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.000
kind of
have a louder voice amplify their voice

1019
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.520
in the difference they make in their
communities

1020
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:32.239
so that these grassroots efforts can
multiply and be bigger than themselves

1021
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:37.360
because i can't tell you how often i
think i've had an original idea i try to

1022
01:14:37.360 --> 01:14:42.560
google it find nothing two years later i
find oh some other library was doing

1023
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:47.440
that two years ago i just had no idea
and

1024
01:14:47.440 --> 01:14:52.560
i'll close up with saying one of my
couple observations i said i was closed

1025
01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:58.480
and then i said a couple
couple observations from the pandemic is

1026
01:14:58.480 --> 01:15:01.679
um
all these the well the federal

1027
01:15:01.679 --> 01:15:08.560
government and all these organizations
and non-profits need libraries to make

1028
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:13.840
these programs and services real
they've got the theory they've got the

1029
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:21.440
money but how do they get to the people
and by libraries speaking up we can be

1030
01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:25.520
at that table and we need to be at that
table

1031
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:32.480
um so that's been one of my um takeaways
is the the importance of

1032
01:15:32.480 --> 01:15:38.400
of coalitions these cross-sector
coalitions getting out of library world

1033
01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:43.520
and in our case i think we've had to
fight against the stereotype of what a

1034
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:48.000
library is
um and what we provide so that's an

1035
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.400
uphill battle
but

1036
01:15:50.400 --> 01:15:56.560
but we're making progress on that and so
i think we are needed and we just need

1037
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:01.440
to amplify our voices more and then the
final piece of that

1038
01:16:01.440 --> 01:16:09.600
is researchers i am not a numbers person
but i have now seen

1039
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.800
and i have learned from some of the
numbers people

1040
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:17.199
that if when we went into our program
planning

1041
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:22.239
we could talk with some of the
researchers to find out like what would

1042
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:27.679
be a good assessment of this program
what are we trying to accomplish because

1043
01:16:27.679 --> 01:16:32.800
i i will admit cover your ears james
that when i'm as a small library writing

1044
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.640
a grant i want to get something out
there and i want to get the money and

1045
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:42.320
then i need to implement it quickly
but if we could think bigger and get

1046
01:16:42.320 --> 01:16:46.000
everybody working together the
researchers want us

1047
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:50.960
we want them how do we get together and
so i really feel

1048
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:56.880
like coalitions working on this are the
way to make some progress

1049
01:17:01.280 --> 01:17:05.840
thank you i want to thank crosby for
this opportunity to

1050
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:11.360
actually say bob hey bob you know i mean
to the professor

1051
01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:15.600
beyond the same
kind of talking space with bob and

1052
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.960
jaylene
who i have great deep respect for and

1053
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:22.239
i've been reading their work for a while
and i've been thinking a lot about a

1054
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:27.199
couple of concepts that are brought up
in his earlier work around bonding and

1055
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:32.480
bridging the the idea of bonding is that
we typically kind of hang out with

1056
01:17:32.480 --> 01:17:37.840
people who are very much like us same
age same religion you know um

1057
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:41.920
uh and we
though to be successful need to do more

1058
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:46.080
bridging be around people who are
different from us different ages

1059
01:17:46.080 --> 01:17:49.760
different religions different
ethnicities and so i wanted to share a

1060
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.440
story of
that i think shows that really the

1061
01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:58.080
leadership is going to come from the
youth um and and uh it was a very

1062
01:17:58.080 --> 01:18:01.920
interesting
um program that kind of led me to this

1063
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:06.560
kind of thought that i wanted to share
with everybody so a few years back um

1064
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.440
the jewish federation who's a partner of
the library

1065
01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:13.920
came to us and said right we've heard
about our the partner city with

1066
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:18.719
cleveland which is beijing israel um
that they have this great library and we

1067
01:18:18.719 --> 01:18:24.159
would like you to go to israel
and my answer was okay i'm on i'm packed

1068
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:29.120
let's go right right and so i went to
see the library

1069
01:18:29.120 --> 01:18:33.280
and all of a sudden i started walking
around and there was nothing but like

1070
01:18:33.280 --> 01:18:36.880
12 year olds and 13 year olds and 14
year olds they were working behind the

1071
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:40.000
desk they were doing circulation they
were doing all of these other things

1072
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.320
throughout the library and i was like
and they said this is it

1073
01:18:44.320 --> 01:18:49.760
the kids run the library
right i was like okay

1074
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.520
right and they said well let's go meet
the librarian so the librarian was in

1075
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:58.320
the back in the back room with his feet
up and i was like this is genius

1076
01:18:58.320 --> 01:19:01.520
right
get the kids to run the whole library

1077
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:04.960
you just sit up and eat snacks
right

1078
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:08.480
and he goes no this is this is my
thought right

1079
01:19:08.480 --> 01:19:12.400
we
you know we uh always tell the kids what

1080
01:19:12.400 --> 01:19:18.560
to do and israel has a long history of
letting young people lead so i just

1081
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.040
let them
run everything

1082
01:19:21.040 --> 01:19:25.760
and literally he let them run everything
every decision in the library was run by

1083
01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:28.960
the young people
right and so

1084
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:32.640
um
i would i was just kind of like really

1085
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:36.800
surprised and i spent some time with the
kids and i started to see the leadership

1086
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:41.440
development that was coming from this
as i was they asked me to speak to the

1087
01:19:41.440 --> 01:19:45.280
kids and the
like there was a 11 year old doing my

1088
01:19:45.280 --> 01:19:51.520
microphones and all the technology right
and i was like no disrespect not to say

1089
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:55.920
that right only 11 year olds could do
that but

1090
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.920
but it was so interesting seeing that
and and so

1091
01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:06.080
i wanted to come back to cleveland and
kind of put forward this option

1092
01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:12.159
let's let the kids kind of run
like the library of which my leadership

1093
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:16.880
team said that's the stupidest thing
you've ever said right but what became

1094
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:19.760
very very clear
was that

1095
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:23.920
we have a kind of history of always
telling young people what they're going

1096
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:28.560
to do how they're going to do it and as
we started to kind of do a similar type

1097
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.480
of program it was the same thing that
continued to happen

1098
01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:37.040
our our older folks couldn't allow the
young people to let be free and allow

1099
01:20:37.040 --> 01:20:41.600
them to make decisions we always had to
make sure and tell them this is not

1100
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:46.239
going to work right so they never had a
chance to leave so

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01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:50.400
the jewish federation brought some of
the kids from israel

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01:20:50.400 --> 01:20:55.679
to cleveland to meet our young people to
kind of like push them to kind of move

1103
01:20:55.679 --> 01:21:02.880
forward and it was so interesting right
initially these kids are from

1104
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:06.880
two different countries but they were
kids who were in

1105
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:11.120
in beijing
they were poor kids who were there and

1106
01:21:11.120 --> 01:21:15.840
they were with some of the poorest kids
in cleveland right and they started

1107
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:19.840
talking and they started
bonding

1108
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:25.120
and soon they were starting to create a
bridge between the two cities right

1109
01:21:25.120 --> 01:21:31.440
and what we had what came out of this
was after the kids started like like

1110
01:21:31.440 --> 01:21:34.639
stopping wanting to do anything because
they all wanted to go to the mall they

1111
01:21:34.639 --> 01:21:38.239
all wanted to hang out and they became
really close friends

1112
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:43.520
so now continually they send
messages to each other ahead of time

1113
01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:48.480
because they're on different you know
time zones right and they talk about how

1114
01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:53.679
they're moving forward with their work
and the value teams that now they are

1115
01:21:53.679 --> 01:21:58.159
called the volun instead of volunteers
there now the volunteers who run a

1116
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:02.800
volunteer program out of our library for
their community right

1117
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:05.360
are have
just seen

1118
01:22:05.360 --> 01:22:10.880
unbelievable growth in those kids right
they are now leaders all right and you

1119
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:14.080
know they're getting up doing speeches
in front of

1120
01:22:14.080 --> 01:22:17.840
of their peers telling them how like
they don't need to listen to adults

1121
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:21.120
anymore because they know how to do
everything

1122
01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:26.000
right and it's a small scale thing to
see these two countries bridged by these

1123
01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.480
young teens from the poorest communities
in their countries

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01:22:30.480 --> 01:22:34.320
but what it said to me and what i took
from this

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01:22:34.320 --> 01:22:40.480
was that there is a way for us to move
forward if we get out of our way

1126
01:22:40.480 --> 01:22:45.679
right that our the adults aren't willing
and if this is going to happen

1127
01:22:45.679 --> 01:22:49.199
right if we are going to see ourselves
somehow

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01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:53.120
take that bridge space and
the leadership is going to come from

1129
01:22:53.120 --> 01:22:56.400
these young people somehow the older
folks are going to have to find a way to

1130
01:22:56.400 --> 01:23:01.440
get out of the way
so i am going to ask you two a question

1131
01:23:01.440 --> 01:23:05.520
right because we're showing our time all
right and i wanted to make sure that

1132
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.880
this was one of those
kind of questions in crosby has pushed

1133
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.719
me to to put this out there
is

1134
01:23:12.719 --> 01:23:16.800
while i agree that there are a lot of
rural librarians doing great work and

1135
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:19.520
there are a lot of folks doing great
work

1136
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:23.600
i think sometimes we
take this room and say that there are

1137
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.360
lots of we could fill this room 10 20
times over

1138
01:23:27.360 --> 01:23:30.239
but many times i see the same people in
this room

1139
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:34.239
right right we're like the illuminati we
we

1140
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:39.520
we're always here right and i think what
we have to ask is in this profession do

1141
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:45.120
we do need to do more to make sure that
we could fill this room with 10 of us

1142
01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:49.360
10 times over rather than the same folks
that we see who are doing very

1143
01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:52.159
progressive work

1144
01:23:52.480 --> 01:23:57.679
i just wanted to add that what i've
heard here is commonalities

1145
01:23:57.679 --> 01:24:03.199
i have a very small budget
i would consider myself a rural library

1146
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:05.360
a
island

1147
01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:09.199
you know in a
community of extreme wealth the north

1148
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:13.679
shore is one of the wealthiest parts of
illinois of the country for that matter

1149
01:24:13.679 --> 01:24:19.440
and so highwood my operating budget is
297 000 a year

1150
01:24:19.440 --> 01:24:24.639
but my
real budget now is 1.5 million and it is

1151
01:24:24.639 --> 01:24:28.960
because of grants and it is because of
grassroots efforts that we have been

1152
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:35.440
doing and is because all of our
programming is run by informed community

1153
01:24:35.440 --> 01:24:41.520
engagement so we are out there we are
boots on the ground the reason why i was

1154
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:45.679
able to receive two iml s's is for a
community engagement strategy

1155
01:24:45.679 --> 01:24:50.560
that we have developed that we connect
with leaders from within our own

1156
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:55.199
community and power them to go out and
be our boots

1157
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:59.280
eyes and ears on the ground
during covet that's what allowed the

1158
01:24:59.280 --> 01:25:04.080
library to be a lifeline
for our community we never closed we

1159
01:25:04.080 --> 01:25:08.639
closed the front door but we left the
back door open we served 23 000 meals

1160
01:25:08.639 --> 01:25:12.639
during covid we partnered with
department of public health to do

1161
01:25:12.639 --> 01:25:18.000
vaccine tests i mean covet testing and
so far we partner with walgreens to do

1162
01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:23.040
over 3000 vaccines in the arms of
community members so we're a trusted

1163
01:25:23.040 --> 01:25:28.080
source in the community we are a bridge
to connect individuals we have a tab

1164
01:25:28.080 --> 01:25:33.679
team which is a teen advisory board that
is doing all of the the teen programming

1165
01:25:33.679 --> 01:25:39.520
so we have commonalities we don't let
bureaucracy get in our way

1166
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:44.400
we were on the verge of being shut down
it was because of elizabeth martin that

1167
01:25:44.400 --> 01:25:48.719
stan sitting over there who wrote a
strategic plan that made sense

1168
01:25:48.719 --> 01:25:54.159
that they hired a non-librarian because
i am not a librarian by profession and

1169
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:58.080
they hired someone with community
engagement skills and that made all the

1170
01:25:58.080 --> 01:26:02.639
difference the library is now vibrant we
are about to do a four million dollar

1171
01:26:02.639 --> 01:26:07.520
renovation
um with a 300 less than 300 000 budget

1172
01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:12.320
right it's all possible if we were
creative in what we do

1173
01:26:12.320 --> 01:26:16.960
and we leverage partnerships with key
organizations and key funders funders

1174
01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:21.120
are out there and they do want to give
money and they want to give money to

1175
01:26:21.120 --> 01:26:26.560
changing change agents and we are that
every one of you in here has your own

1176
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:32.239
story and has that change agent
mentality that's why we're in this room

1177
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:36.800
so i think listening and hearing to the
community especially the most vulnerable

1178
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:41.840
now that it's been very
clear to us with covet who the most

1179
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:46.239
vulnerable are that we do need to see
them and we do need to be inclusive and

1180
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:51.760
we do need to be a we it can't happen
just with an eye so i really am grateful

1181
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:55.360
for this opportunity
that i have been given to share a little

1182
01:26:55.360 --> 01:27:00.080
bit of the work that hollywood is doing
and the work that's yet to come this is

1183
01:27:00.080 --> 01:27:04.480
just the beginning for us to work in
libraries and begin to change what

1184
01:27:04.480 --> 01:27:08.080
libraries are really all about

1185
01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:14.800
i think of it in terms of
entrepreneurs thinking like an

1186
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.360
entrepreneur
because

1187
01:27:17.360 --> 01:27:23.760
in in my situation the lack of taxpayer
funding i had to look at things of okay

1188
01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:29.120
an entrepreneur wants income i need
income how do we make that happen

1189
01:27:29.120 --> 01:27:36.159
and um so so we were able to be creative
and then work with the people

1190
01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:41.360
i i would write subject lines to um
people and it would be subject line

1191
01:27:41.360 --> 01:27:46.159
would be what if dot dot dot
and then their answer would just be hell

1192
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:53.120
yes whatever whatever the crazy idea was
it was like yes let's do that um the

1193
01:27:53.120 --> 01:27:59.440
other thing and this may be unpopular
here but i received my mls two years ago

1194
01:27:59.440 --> 01:28:02.660
um and i got it out of spite
it

1195
01:28:02.660 --> 01:28:07.360
[Laughter]
i got it to prove

1196
01:28:07.360 --> 01:28:12.800
that i did not need what the library
educators were teaching

1197
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:15.800
and

1198
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:21.120
with the
hindsight i will say 50

1199
01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:26.400
i think about 50
of the curriculum applied to my reality

1200
01:28:26.400 --> 01:28:29.760
of what i do
so i

1201
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:37.120
i would be a proponent of looking at
what is taught by library educators to

1202
01:28:37.120 --> 01:28:42.280
get more creative people into the field

1203
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:49.199
well
if anybody disagrees with any of the

1204
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:53.719
comments say they came from kelvin
watson

1205
01:28:56.960 --> 01:29:01.520
so terry's coming
i think uh we i know we're close to time

1206
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:05.760
so listen believe it or not you have 10
more minutes if you need it but um i'm

1207
01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:08.480
going to give you the option of needing
it first i'm going to explain what's

1208
01:29:08.480 --> 01:29:12.159
going to come next
and then we'll go to break

1209
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:16.239
after the break jalen's going to come
back up and join us for a question and

1210
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:22.239
answer session of 30 minutes so we would
love for you all who are with us today

1211
01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:26.480
to think of questions that can foster a
good deep discussion about the things

1212
01:29:26.480 --> 01:29:31.040
we've heard from robert putnam and
shaylin and our panelists on the dais

1213
01:29:31.040 --> 01:29:34.960
right now
we have post-it notes that you can

1214
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:40.159
either write your questions on
attribute them to yourself or anonymize

1215
01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:43.679
them either way
or calvin

1216
01:29:43.679 --> 01:29:47.920
and
feed them to your notetaker your imls no

1217
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:51.760
taker with the host badge at your table
or feed them to me

1218
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:55.600
and we will come back after the break
and have a robust question and answer

1219
01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.719
session
um so with that i will give you all the

1220
01:29:58.719 --> 01:30:04.719
laughs can i can i can you hear me
yes can you hear me yeah

1221
01:30:04.719 --> 01:30:10.400
um is it possible uh we're going to do a
q a for shane and me to respond but i

1222
01:30:10.400 --> 01:30:15.040
wonder whether we could at least i would
like to comment very briefly on the what

1223
01:30:15.040 --> 01:30:18.400
we've heard now from these panelists
because i think

1224
01:30:18.400 --> 01:30:21.920
it was to me
very instructive we would love that but

1225
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:25.600
i don't want i don't want to throw the
whole organization

1226
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:30.639
off kilters so
now what i'm afraid of is

1227
01:30:31.360 --> 01:30:35.040
we're getting the yes from crosby we
we've got a yes okay

1228
01:30:35.040 --> 01:30:40.560
so um the idea professor putnam thought
i was crazy is great that is

1229
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:45.760
is all-star thank you professor hold it
felton hold it

1230
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:49.360
first of all felton you you may or may
not know

1231
01:30:49.360 --> 01:30:53.360
that i grew up in a small town a tiny
town

1232
01:30:53.360 --> 01:30:57.520
um about 70 miles
uh

1233
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:00.400
west of cleveland yes
um

1234
01:31:00.400 --> 01:31:06.400
ages ago
so i can right now this is probably

1235
01:31:06.400 --> 01:31:10.719
70 years ago i could name for you the
starting lineup of the cleveland indians

1236
01:31:10.719 --> 01:31:15.520
well what they were then called the
cleveland indians in 1919

1237
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.800
50
so they're i'm going to identify with

1238
01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:22.560
both the small town people in the
audience but also with cleveland

1239
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:25.199
um
and and i apologize for calling the

1240
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.360
cleveland indians i'm i'm that old that
i don't even remember uh the the new

1241
01:31:29.360 --> 01:31:33.679
name of the indians of the uh cleveland
audience um

1242
01:31:33.679 --> 01:31:38.239
i wanted to i only wanted to make one
point because it's relevant actually to

1243
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:44.080
what everybody here said
i really like felton's question which is

1244
01:31:44.080 --> 01:31:47.679
how can
this group stop preaching to the choir

1245
01:31:47.679 --> 01:31:52.320
you all know all these things
and the question is there's a very large

1246
01:31:52.320 --> 01:31:55.840
i know actually that there's a very
large number of librarians out there who

1247
01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.280
ought to know what you know and ought to
be doing what you're doing

1248
01:31:59.280 --> 01:32:03.920
well they've not yet got the message and
that seems to me they're that it it the

1249
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:08.239
direction in which that
moves me is to say

1250
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:13.120
there needs to be a social movement
among librarians

1251
01:32:13.120 --> 01:32:15.920
to kind of
no i mean of course to social movement

1252
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:19.520
beyond libraries but in particular among
librarians

1253
01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:24.080
to mobilize
many larger numbers of libraries i'm a

1254
01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:28.159
huge fan of libraries as as as crosby
knows better than anybody i'm an

1255
01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:33.440
enormous fan of libraries not just as a
consumer but but as a as a analyst of

1256
01:32:33.440 --> 01:32:36.880
society
but i do think that there's that i do

1257
01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:40.560
think that more thought is needed about
that question that

1258
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:44.239
felt and asked not what not just what
good things are you guys doing

1259
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:47.520
but how can you get the how can you
reach out to mobilize a much larger

1260
01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:51.840
number of librarians and the the last
point i want to make has to do with

1261
01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:55.199
the way that the role that libraries
played

1262
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:59.199
in the progressive era because it was an
extremely important role

1263
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:04.320
and that is the carnegie libraries and i
don't know how widely maybe the carnegie

1264
01:33:04.320 --> 01:33:10.080
library story is very well known among
contemporary librarians among all of you

1265
01:33:10.080 --> 01:33:13.600
so i maybe i'm just again preaching to
the choir you all know about carnegie

1266
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:18.560
libraries but if if you don't
there are deeply interesting parallels

1267
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:22.480
between the problem that the carnegie
libraries

1268
01:33:22.480 --> 01:33:25.840
that andrew carnegie set out to create
and

1269
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:30.159
and the problems that face america today
for example

1270
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:36.159
andrew carnegie was himself a librarian
he was a librarian who made his fortune

1271
01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:39.920
i'm sorry he was a he was a person who
made his fortune

1272
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:43.440
because he came out of libraries that's
i don't mean library school i mean

1273
01:33:43.440 --> 01:33:47.920
because he was a he was in libraries
that's what first of all

1274
01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:53.199
awakened his intellect and he he gave
back

1275
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:57.920
do you know that hat at least in that in
1930 or no maybe more recently that

1276
01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:02.320
1950s
half of all public libraries half of all

1277
01:34:02.320 --> 01:34:07.120
public libraries in america were founded
as carnegie public libraries it was a

1278
01:34:07.120 --> 01:34:12.480
huge im had an enormous impact on the
reality of libraries in america

1279
01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:17.679
and um so it was intimately tied with
the immigration of that period both

1280
01:34:17.679 --> 01:34:21.120
he himself
as an immigrant and secondly he was

1281
01:34:21.120 --> 01:34:27.600
intending the library should serve
uh should serve the purpose that um that

1282
01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:32.560
carmen was talking about in her
uh in her town

1283
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:36.719
and he was he was intending to reach out
to rural areas that was

1284
01:34:36.719 --> 01:34:41.119
that's i mean
the the the resonance between

1285
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:45.520
what andrew carnegie was trying to do
and did do

1286
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:50.080
was first of all to make libraries
present in in

1287
01:34:50.080 --> 01:34:54.000
throughout america but secondly to make
libraries community institutions of

1288
01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:57.679
community learning
community centers

1289
01:34:57.679 --> 01:35:01.760
and that's i think a lot of what you're
all doing

1290
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:05.360
and so i'm not trying to say that you
don't that you have to take instruction

1291
01:35:05.360 --> 01:35:08.080
from
from andrew carnegie but in the carnegie

1292
01:35:08.080 --> 01:35:12.480
libraries but i do think you'd find a
lot of inspiration and some lessons

1293
01:35:12.480 --> 01:35:16.800
in that which which why am i talking
about it because it's the progressive

1294
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.800
era that's it was libraries and carnegie
played a crucial role

1295
01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:25.520
in the upswing
sorry to go on so long

1296
01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:31.360
we appreciate your comments um i will
give the panelists a last word one one

1297
01:35:31.360 --> 01:35:35.600
last thing is
our we change our library name

1298
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:40.239
to the highwood
library and community center

1299
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:45.520
because that is exactly what we are now
is a community center that welcomes all

1300
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:50.239
people that listens to the needs of the
community and we respond with relevant

1301
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:55.119
programming so it's important for us to
say that we have a community center

1302
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:58.239
within our library
because that's what we are

1303
01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:02.480
wonderful i i jumped the gun i'm sorry
all good i think felton wants the

1304
01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:07.280
microphone back no and but
to the professor's point i think they're

1305
01:36:07.280 --> 01:36:11.920
they're hassle bob please okay all right
i could say bob look at that

1306
01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:17.600
look at who i am today all right but it
goes to the the idea that

1307
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.639
i think
most of us believe that we have moved

1308
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from the traditional model to the
transformational model in library world

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01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:27.440
and
we're many of us are so far

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01:36:27.440 --> 01:36:32.080
gone from the traditional model that we
don't even think about it in that sense

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01:36:32.080 --> 01:36:36.800
anymore but i think if we really were to
look across the especially for us who

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01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:42.080
were in public libraries the you know 9
000 public library systems and we

1313
01:36:42.080 --> 01:36:46.080
started to examine how many of them
still operated in the traditional model

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01:36:46.080 --> 01:36:49.119
i think we'd find a lot more than we
probably think

1315
01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:53.679
right and so
i think having that traditional model

1316
01:36:53.679 --> 01:36:57.199
being there is
can can be transformational for many

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01:36:57.199 --> 01:37:00.880
communities but what
you see here

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01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.600
you know
with you know

1319
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:07.119
us
here is that we have really been able to

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01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:12.800
to be to create much more transformation
and connect our communities to their

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01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:17.280
libraries in different ways by being
transformational rather than traditional

1322
01:37:17.280 --> 01:37:21.600
and i think there needs to be much more
discussion about that in library

1323
01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:26.080
i think we we find ourselves in the echo
chamber many times when we get together

1324
01:37:26.080 --> 01:37:31.280
and i've we've got to figure out how do
we go out and and do that work outside

1325
01:37:31.280 --> 01:37:34.320
and
lastly to your point bob i think we do

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01:37:34.320 --> 01:37:38.560
need to find a carnegie
um and it may not have to be someone

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01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:44.639
who's spending boatloads of money on us
but we need i think in libraries someone

1328
01:37:44.639 --> 01:37:48.960
to be a hype man
out there for us um in the general

1329
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:53.840
larger world um and i'm not sure who
that's going to be

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01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:57.440
but i you know
well i don't think it's flavor flav but

1331
01:37:57.440 --> 01:38:01.199
you know i think there should be
somebody we've got to figure out who

1332
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:05.440
that is because
in essence what andrew carnegie did was

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01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:10.480
make libraries seen as the most
important part of their communities in a

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01:38:10.480 --> 01:38:14.639
lot of ways and we've kind of
we continued to do that

1335
01:38:14.639 --> 01:38:19.280
but i i don't know if everyone sees it
in that way

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01:38:19.280 --> 01:38:22.800
beyonce would be great

1337
01:38:24.719 --> 01:38:28.960
for a long time i called myself an
accidental librarian and i guess i can't

1338
01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:32.639
do that anymore because i'm so
passionate about it

1339
01:38:32.639 --> 01:38:39.280
but i think all of us are at an
incredible once in a lifetime

1340
01:38:39.280 --> 01:38:42.159
once
in a hundred years

1341
01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:48.719
time for libraries right now i just
think this is is the time and i hope

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01:38:48.719 --> 01:38:54.320
we spend our money wisely and we don't
let the opportunity pass us by

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01:38:54.320 --> 01:39:00.639
great what a great note to end on thank
you panelists thank you kino

1344
01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:06.960
all right we've got we've got our two
keynoters and our three panelists here

1345
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:12.000
for our 30-minute question period
we did get some sticky notes to kick us

1346
01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:13.920
off
if you

1347
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:18.480
have sticky notes that haven't made it
up this way there's some imls folks that

1348
01:39:18.480 --> 01:39:22.560
are wandering you can you know bring
them up to me on the podium we also have

1349
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:27.520
three mics in the audience so there's a
possibility to just get up and stand and

1350
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:30.800
ask your question the mics are on the
floor we're going to start with the

1351
01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:33.920
sticky note questions but we'll get to
the mics

1352
01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:38.159
and we have many questions so to the
extent that our panelists and keynoters

1353
01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:42.080
can be brief in the response to the
questions we'll get through more of them

1354
01:39:42.080 --> 01:39:46.480
so i think we're going to start with one
that came in and is probably directed

1355
01:39:46.480 --> 01:39:52.000
more to bob and shaylynn
the question is if the 20th century

1356
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:57.280
wasn't truly radically inclusive or
racially inclusive excuse me

1357
01:39:57.280 --> 01:40:03.440
was it really that strong and upswing
across the four metrics

1358
01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:09.520
would you like me to repeat it or you
got it

1359
01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:13.679
no no we got it okay um
caitlyn you want to

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01:40:13.679 --> 01:40:17.440
you want to take it well i mean but you
never should take it but you're the

1361
01:40:17.440 --> 01:40:19.520
specialist
sure

1362
01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:22.480
so
um

1363
01:40:22.480 --> 01:40:26.080
okay brevity being the key i'm gonna
just give it a minute to think where to

1364
01:40:26.080 --> 01:40:30.719
start and how to make this brief because
i i will just say this is a fantastic

1365
01:40:30.719 --> 01:40:33.520
question
it deserves much more time than we're

1366
01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:36.960
about to give it
um there is an entire chapter in the

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01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:41.840
book that addresses the question of race
and and the and the movement over this

1368
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:46.960
period toward or away from racial
equality and how that maps on to the iwi

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01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:50.800
century so if you're really curious
about this i would encourage you to just

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01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:53.119
take a look at that and you don't have
to buy the book you can check it out of

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01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:58.239
your library so um
so

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01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:03.440
so what i'll say is this um
i think that

1373
01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:06.960
our question
we approached this question from a data

1374
01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:10.639
standpoint because the whole backbone of
the book is data right

1375
01:41:10.639 --> 01:41:14.639
so the question is what longitudinal
data do we have that maps onto this same

1376
01:41:14.639 --> 01:41:19.320
period that can help us answer this
question

1377
01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:26.719
when you talk about what people assume
the data looks like over this period

1378
01:41:26.719 --> 01:41:30.960
a lot of people assume that because
things were in fact extraordinarily

1379
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.320
bleak from a racial equality and
inclusion perspective at the beginning

1380
01:41:34.320 --> 01:41:38.560
of the century there's often this
assumption that nothing changed for the

1381
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:43.280
better until the lightning bolt changes
of the 1950s and 60s civil rights

1382
01:41:43.280 --> 01:41:46.960
revolution
and

1383
01:41:46.960 --> 01:41:51.040
what we would call so so the the graphs
that you saw look like sort of inverted

1384
01:41:51.040 --> 01:41:55.040
u curves right by contrast a lot of
people feel like the movement toward

1385
01:41:55.040 --> 01:41:58.719
racial equality inclusion looks more
like a hockey stick no change in the

1386
01:41:58.719 --> 01:42:02.000
dramatic change
that turns out to be true when you're

1387
01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:05.280
looking at measures of inclusion
particularly things like the

1388
01:42:05.280 --> 01:42:08.880
long-delayed entry of black americans
into professional schools and

1389
01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:13.760
professions
um lack of representation in government

1390
01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:17.360
uh
residential segregation on and on and on

1391
01:42:17.360 --> 01:42:21.440
there are many measures uh where it was
just purely exclusionary and it took

1392
01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:24.800
that
sort of um changing of the du jour

1393
01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:29.920
segregation for things to begin to move
interestingly and what came as a

1394
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.760
surprise to us
is that it does the curve does not look

1395
01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:37.040
that way when you're asking questions
about material equality between the

1396
01:42:37.040 --> 01:42:39.520
races
and when we say when i say between the

1397
01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:42.639
races i mean between black americans and
white americans and the only reason that

1398
01:42:42.639 --> 01:42:46.159
we are framing it in that way is because
that's what we have data for over this

1399
01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:49.760
long period it's not because other
peoples of color don't matter it's

1400
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:53.199
because we don't have data over the full
period to answer that question with

1401
01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:56.639
other groups but we do for black
americans and white americans

1402
01:42:56.639 --> 01:42:59.760
and what's so interesting is that when
you look at the data and when we're

1403
01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:03.199
talking about material equality we're
talking about things like

1404
01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:05.040
um
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1405
01:43:05.040 --> 01:43:10.400
health measures so infant mortality and
life expectancy we're talking about uh

1406
01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:13.679
income
distribution we're talking about wealth

1407
01:43:13.679 --> 01:43:16.880
or home ownership for example we're also
talking about voter registration and

1408
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:20.480
voter participation when you roll all of
those measures together

1409
01:43:20.480 --> 01:43:24.239
and you ask yourself
were we moving more toward equality was

1410
01:43:24.239 --> 01:43:28.800
the racial gap narrowing or widening
over this 20th century period and when

1411
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:32.960
and how fast
what you actually see

1412
01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:37.119
is that the bulk of progress toward
narrowing the gap

1413
01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:41.520
took place during the upswing
actually before the civil rights

1414
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:44.800
revolution
which i think particularly for white

1415
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:49.119
americans that's a surprising story
it's not that surprising i think for a

1416
01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:52.320
lot of black americans because this is
their genealogy this is their family

1417
01:43:52.320 --> 01:43:56.560
history this is the great migration the
main driver of that

1418
01:43:56.560 --> 01:44:00.239
move toward equality
um

1419
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:04.560
was because black americans stood up and
claimed their place in the american we

1420
01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:08.080
and left the south for the more
hospitable

1421
01:44:08.080 --> 01:44:12.320
west and north in this country
and so you see that very clearly in the

1422
01:44:12.320 --> 01:44:14.960
data
um and and we often get the question

1423
01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:18.080
well you know
there was just so much room for

1424
01:44:18.080 --> 01:44:21.040
improvement for black americans maybe
that's the whole explanation but it

1425
01:44:21.040 --> 01:44:24.239
actually turns out that everyone in
america was doing better and better over

1426
01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:27.280
that first two thirds of the 20th
century but black americans were doing

1427
01:44:27.280 --> 01:44:30.400
actually better
at a much faster rate than white

1428
01:44:30.400 --> 01:44:34.560
americans which is really interesting
right

1429
01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:38.719
but then
comes the other surprise right when

1430
01:44:38.719 --> 01:44:43.840
the damn of exclusion breaks and the
civil rights laws are passed

1431
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:48.159
you see very clearly in the data what we
call in the book a foot off the gas

1432
01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:52.239
period so you had all this progress on
material equality

1433
01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:57.199
that then stagnates stalls and in some
cases reverses

1434
01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:03.280
during the i period in american history
so we have this view when i say we i'm

1435
01:45:03.280 --> 01:45:06.639
referring mostly to white americans we
have this view that like

1436
01:45:06.639 --> 01:45:10.000
the civil rights movement happened we
fixed that things have gotten better and

1437
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.960
better right
and i think one of the most important

1438
01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:16.000
messages of the black lives matter
movement has been to shed light on the

1439
01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:18.639
fact that that's a completely false
narrative

1440
01:45:18.639 --> 01:45:22.560
the data is very clear that things have
stagnated or gotten worse for black

1441
01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:26.719
americans in this country and when you
look at that over the full course of

1442
01:45:26.719 --> 01:45:31.199
what we're looking at here of this this
i we i period

1443
01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:34.880
you have to ask yourself well how does
this map on to the iwei story well it

1444
01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:38.639
turns out that
time at the the time when america was

1445
01:45:38.639 --> 01:45:42.400
moving more and more in the direction of
we turned out to have been better for

1446
01:45:42.400 --> 01:45:47.040
black americans than a time when
culturally more broadly we turned toward

1447
01:45:47.040 --> 01:45:50.639
hyper-individualism
hyper-individualism

1448
01:45:50.639 --> 01:45:54.719
is bad for everyone it's particularly
bad for

1449
01:45:54.719 --> 01:45:58.639
traditionally excluded groups
and that bears out very clearly in the

1450
01:45:58.639 --> 01:46:02.159
data and so
it's it's a complicated story because

1451
01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:05.360
we're not saying
wow this first two thirds of the 20th

1452
01:46:05.360 --> 01:46:09.440
century we should model everything on
that because it was so great but what we

1453
01:46:09.440 --> 01:46:14.639
are saying is again if we're getting
underneath these questions

1454
01:46:14.639 --> 01:46:18.080
there is
some cultural work that we need to do

1455
01:46:18.080 --> 01:46:23.119
around restoring this culture of we the
belief that we are all in this together

1456
01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:26.639
the feeling that we are all in this
together

1457
01:46:26.639 --> 01:46:30.719
that work has to be done because that
actually

1458
01:46:30.719 --> 01:46:34.719
is an incredibly important part of this
story not just policies that are going

1459
01:46:34.719 --> 01:46:40.480
to equalize things or make things less
segregated we have to do that hard work

1460
01:46:40.480 --> 01:46:44.480
to get back into the cultural and moral
ethos of we

1461
01:46:44.480 --> 01:46:48.480
i think that's a really important lesson
here it's not just it's not an easy

1462
01:46:48.480 --> 01:46:51.119
thing of saying
two-thirds of the first two-thirds of

1463
01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:54.560
the 20th century good or bad should
model on that shouldn't i mean it's

1464
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:58.719
obviously much more complex than that
um and so hopefully that gives you a

1465
01:46:58.719 --> 01:47:04.639
little bit of a taste of our thinking on
this and and how the data lines up here

1466
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:11.199
thank you thank you so much
we're going to turn to a question for

1467
01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:16.880
our library panelists can you talk about
how your library has activated local

1468
01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:22.639
networks of support and social cohesion
in your communities maybe an example or

1469
01:47:22.639 --> 01:47:25.679
two
so how have you activated local networks

1470
01:47:25.679 --> 01:47:30.800
of support and social cohesion in your
community

1471
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:37.040
sure
um

1472
01:47:37.040 --> 01:47:41.840
so our air conditioning went out last
year

1473
01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:47.440
and we just put out a call to the
community we don't have have money to

1474
01:47:47.440 --> 01:47:52.320
fix it and we can't open until we get
the money and within four days we had

1475
01:47:52.320 --> 01:47:57.679
eighteen thousand um
to replace it i got a ten thousand

1476
01:47:57.679 --> 01:48:02.480
dollar check somebody handed me
and they said

1477
01:48:02.480 --> 01:48:07.679
we trust you to do something important
for the community with this

1478
01:48:07.679 --> 01:48:13.440
no direction no strings attached ten
thousand dollars and so we started a

1479
01:48:13.440 --> 01:48:17.679
library of things to check out
pressure washer and carpet cleaner are

1480
01:48:17.679 --> 01:48:22.480
most most popular
but but bicycles and canning supplies

1481
01:48:22.480 --> 01:48:27.280
and all kinds of things i i um we have
an annual lunch and friends at the

1482
01:48:27.280 --> 01:48:32.880
library luncheon every year and i just
talked about and briefly because they

1483
01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:37.119
don't want to hear me talk i talked
briefly to we feed kids snacks after

1484
01:48:37.119 --> 01:48:41.280
school
and um the next week i got a check in

1485
01:48:41.280 --> 01:48:46.719
the mail from someone i didn't know and
i opened it up and it was for seventeen

1486
01:48:46.719 --> 01:48:51.280
thousand five hundred dollars and it
said keep feeding kids

1487
01:48:51.280 --> 01:48:54.719
and um
honestly

1488
01:48:54.719 --> 01:49:00.719
my brain could not make sense of the
amount i kept thinking is this 17 and 50

1489
01:49:00.719 --> 01:49:04.159
cents because that seems so
odd

1490
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:09.360
but because we have done what matters to
the community we're doing an aging and

1491
01:49:09.360 --> 01:49:14.560
place initiative right now
the community has really responded and i

1492
01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:18.320
do think
now if the library was to close there

1493
01:49:18.320 --> 01:49:24.320
would be pitchforks i mean people really
support us now

1494
01:49:24.320 --> 01:49:30.560
awesome example of social cohesion and
support i would also say that for us at

1495
01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:33.679
highwood
when i said earlier that we were able to

1496
01:49:33.679 --> 01:49:38.000
serve 23 000 meals we didn't use tax
levy dollars

1497
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:42.400
we during covet we
partnered with two other nonprofits

1498
01:49:42.400 --> 01:49:45.360
the other two non-profits received grant
funding

1499
01:49:45.360 --> 01:49:50.000
and we became just a distribution site
and we became the trusted entity so we

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01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:56.000
had lines of individuals uh and when you
see the stark

1501
01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:59.440
poverty within this extremely wealthy
community

1502
01:49:59.440 --> 01:50:02.000
it's very

1503
01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:05.599
heartbreaking
that i would see families

1504
01:50:05.599 --> 01:50:11.119
take our recycled dumpster and use that
as a transport because families also do

1505
01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:16.000
not have transportation in our community
so so for us to be to have become a

1506
01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.719
lifeline and have partnered with other
entities to make that a possibility is

1507
01:50:20.719 --> 01:50:26.639
incredible the other piece is the recent
grant that we received yesterday as a

1508
01:50:26.639 --> 01:50:31.280
matter of fact
a 578 thousand dollar grant to partner

1509
01:50:31.280 --> 01:50:35.599
with one of the largest health systems
in the community to do

1510
01:50:35.599 --> 01:50:40.239
the access to health services in the
area of mental health

1511
01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:44.400
that is a very important partnership
because we know the stigma behind mental

1512
01:50:44.400 --> 01:50:48.719
health especially for communities of
color and especially for an undocumented

1513
01:50:48.719 --> 01:50:55.280
population so partnering is very
important we can't do it alone and so

1514
01:50:55.280 --> 01:50:59.199
there is where the we comes in and i can
go on and on about the different

1515
01:50:59.199 --> 01:51:03.760
partnerships we had to raise
four million dollars to renovate a very

1516
01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:09.360
outdated facility is it was it used to
be three restaurants in the past and so

1517
01:51:09.360 --> 01:51:15.280
they that became a library in 1976 and
so it had not been renovated since 1976

1518
01:51:15.280 --> 01:51:20.480
and we still had the same furniture
so imagine that nails sticking out and

1519
01:51:20.480 --> 01:51:26.560
holes in the furniture how is that an
acceptable space for learning for for a

1520
01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:29.440
population like we serve
so

1521
01:51:29.440 --> 01:51:35.040
it's miraculous to be able to raise
almost the four million dollars during

1522
01:51:35.040 --> 01:51:38.960
covet
but people care when they see that there

1523
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:42.320
is organizations that are trustworthy
and that are willing to go above and

1524
01:51:42.320 --> 01:51:46.400
beyond for their community
so

1525
01:51:46.400 --> 01:51:50.800
just a little tidbit more
and you know

1526
01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:53.520
very similar
whether it is working with our food

1527
01:51:53.520 --> 01:51:56.560
banks
working with our hospitals you know

1528
01:51:56.560 --> 01:52:00.560
giving a
test or doing being a site for covid

1529
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.599
testing
or like working with our legal aid

1530
01:52:03.599 --> 01:52:09.040
society so people can come in and get
assistance and and not be evicted or you

1531
01:52:09.040 --> 01:52:12.639
know working with our school district to
hand out

1532
01:52:12.639 --> 01:52:17.760
thousands of pcs to their parents so
that the kids can actually be able to

1533
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.480
get online
there were just so many different

1534
01:52:20.480 --> 01:52:23.920
partners that we were working with
during this period of time

1535
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:29.040
but the great thing was that came out of
it in this last year we are

1536
01:52:29.040 --> 01:52:33.040
having a big run-up for our new mayor
and

1537
01:52:33.040 --> 01:52:38.080
one of the candidates stood up and said
at as his first line he says the way

1538
01:52:38.080 --> 01:52:42.000
we're going to get out of this is that
we were going to make the library

1539
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:45.520
our public library the front door to
democracy

1540
01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:49.920
anyone yes
so

1541
01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:54.159
he is already we're looking at how we
put government innovation labs in all

1542
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:59.520
our buildings right so
those are kind of examples awesome

1543
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:02.400
all right i'm going to ask one more
question from the stickies and then

1544
01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:06.480
we're going to go to the mic so if
anybody's ready you can make your way up

1545
01:53:06.480 --> 01:53:13.440
this this one's more for bob um how can
you measure the impact libraries have on

1546
01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:18.000
local networks of support and social
inclusion

1547
01:53:24.080 --> 01:53:27.920
well i
i'm trying to figure out a way to

1548
01:53:27.920 --> 01:53:30.480
not answer in a
too

1549
01:53:30.480 --> 01:53:33.280
um
academic away i mean there are lots of

1550
01:53:33.280 --> 01:53:36.960
ways in fact to measure
um

1551
01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:41.760
uh
i i don't i there are lots of

1552
01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:46.480
cis serious ways in which you could
evaluate

1553
01:53:46.480 --> 01:53:50.639
your initiatives
especially by doing before and after

1554
01:53:50.639 --> 01:53:55.199
that is measuring
something like

1555
01:53:55.199 --> 01:53:58.560
youth well-being or
like

1556
01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:02.239
um
uh political participation

1557
01:54:02.239 --> 01:54:05.760
well there are a range of things you
could measure before and after you've

1558
01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:11.199
tried some initiative and that would
tell you did we actually move the needle

1559
01:54:11.280 --> 01:54:13.520
um

1560
01:54:15.040 --> 01:54:18.800
i'm
i'm a little

1561
01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:23.119
torn here because i
i want to

1562
01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:29.199
emphasize
what i think you could do

1563
01:54:31.440 --> 01:54:35.040
beyond
libraries

1564
01:54:35.040 --> 01:54:38.880
um and beyond
um

1565
01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:40.800
providing
uh

1566
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:44.239
social services which which you were
which you are doing and it's wonderful i

1567
01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:47.760
know i'm not being negative about that
at all

1568
01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:53.520
how could you positively affect
politics in america

1569
01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:58.880
and that's i know seems like a stretch
i recognize that seems like a stretch

1570
01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:03.040
so let me ask i mean i will tell you how
i think you could do it

1571
01:55:03.040 --> 01:55:07.040
but i'm i'm asking you now to challenge
yourself

1572
01:55:07.040 --> 01:55:10.639
don't think of yourselves as victims of
polarization think of yourselves as

1573
01:55:10.639 --> 01:55:13.440
agents
that maybe could work against

1574
01:55:13.440 --> 01:55:16.239
polarization
and

1575
01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:22.239
that means building in my jargon um
which felt referred to earlier bridging

1576
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:25.119
social capital that is politically
bridging social capital that is bringing

1577
01:55:25.119 --> 01:55:28.000
people together
to discuss

1578
01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:32.960
local community problems across party
lines that's not easy that's a big

1579
01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:35.760
challenge
um

1580
01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:40.880
and i think i just mentioned or one of
us mentioned earlier on in the

1581
01:55:40.880 --> 01:55:44.840
maybe that was in another another
session today um

1582
01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:48.800
in uh not long ago sheila and i were
speaking to a group in kansas city

1583
01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:52.639
actually have a local
a group in kansas city that is devoting

1584
01:55:52.639 --> 01:55:56.639
it's not a library but they no doubt are
cooperating with

1585
01:55:56.639 --> 01:56:00.719
the kansas city library um
bringing

1586
01:56:00.719 --> 01:56:04.960
people from very different backgrounds
together to discuss

1587
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:10.000
urgent practical community local
community problems like schools

1588
01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:12.560
um
everybody's talking about schools right

1589
01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:15.679
and fighting about schools that's that's
the biggest one of the biggest flash

1590
01:56:15.679 --> 01:56:20.960
points in american society today
but we're shouting at each other about

1591
01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.040
that and so the challenge there are many
other examples besides schools but the

1592
01:56:25.040 --> 01:56:27.840
challenge i'm suggesting is could you
bring

1593
01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:33.040
people from different points of view
in greater cleveland i'm using that

1594
01:56:33.040 --> 01:56:36.080
example because i know it
much better you know people from

1595
01:56:36.080 --> 01:56:41.119
cuyahoga heights and people from
you know down toward

1596
01:56:41.119 --> 01:56:46.400
young son on akron and people from you
know the inner city and so on

1597
01:56:46.400 --> 01:56:50.719
together to talk about schools and how
they could be fixed

1598
01:56:50.719 --> 01:56:53.280
intentionally bringing people from
different backgrounds and different

1599
01:56:53.280 --> 01:56:55.520
political backgrounds different
especially different political

1600
01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:58.159
backgrounds
um

1601
01:56:58.159 --> 01:57:00.320
i'm
and then of course

1602
01:57:00.320 --> 01:57:03.440
the question was asked me was could you
measure that absolutely i could tell you

1603
01:57:03.440 --> 01:57:08.880
ways in which you can measure that but
i'm trying to put that as a challenge

1604
01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:14.480
to you all and not just to the panelists
here but to the to the room as a whole

1605
01:57:14.639 --> 01:57:17.440
thank you
and can i just add one thing there which

1606
01:57:17.440 --> 01:57:20.480
is that
you don't have to do that programming

1607
01:57:20.480 --> 01:57:24.800
yourself i mean there's a whole dialogue
across difference movement happening in

1608
01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:29.520
america there's probably three different
organizations nearby every one of your

1609
01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:33.520
libraries that's figured out the
facilitation model and figured out you

1610
01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:37.440
know how to do this well
you could just invite them into your

1611
01:57:37.440 --> 01:57:40.000
space right this doesn't have to be
another thing that you have to create

1612
01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.719
from scratch

1613
01:57:43.679 --> 01:57:46.560
so why don't you name a couple uh dave a
couple

1614
01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:50.719
um braver angels
is the number one that i would recommend

1615
01:57:50.719 --> 01:57:53.920
for political discussions specifically
but

1616
01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:55.920
there's
there's just

1617
01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:59.520
um so
many that

1618
01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:02.639
and they're so a lot of them are really
regional and really local so but bravery

1619
01:58:02.639 --> 01:58:06.080
angels is national they're a chapter
based organization so they're entirely

1620
01:58:06.080 --> 01:58:11.840
citizen run i would say um start there
thank you

1621
01:58:11.840 --> 01:58:16.080
just as a time check we're we're already
halfway through our q a so we're clearly

1622
01:58:16.080 --> 01:58:19.440
not going to get to all the stickies but
i will commit to putting them on a

1623
01:58:19.440 --> 01:58:23.040
parking lot so that they can be um you
know

1624
01:58:23.040 --> 01:58:27.840
rumbled with in our personal time and we
have a question from the floor

1625
01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:32.560
i actually i had a sort of follow-up to
this to this conversation on the role

1626
01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:37.920
libraries can play in in sort of active
civic discourse you know part of what i

1627
01:58:37.920 --> 01:58:41.840
pulled from from the from the data that
you put out there is that the

1628
01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:45.760
how divided we are is in part what gets
in our way of being able to have civil

1629
01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:49.360
conversations and i know that we in
libraries you know many libraries that

1630
01:58:49.360 --> 01:58:52.159
i've worked in we've tried various
different versions of this some

1631
01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:56.080
successful and some less successful and
one of the things i'm curious about is

1632
01:58:56.080 --> 01:58:59.520
is how do you get people back to a point
where they actually can't trust again

1633
01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:04.400
trust one another um in it is the first
entry point conversations around you

1634
01:59:04.400 --> 01:59:08.320
know gun violence in my neighborhood or
like is that the right place or is there

1635
01:59:08.320 --> 01:59:12.560
is there a before point in terms of how
we how we build back some of the social

1636
01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:16.800
cohesion and how do we tie that back too
so i'm just curious like i think in the

1637
01:59:16.800 --> 01:59:20.400
public library space we generally
think of ourselves as being able to do

1638
01:59:20.400 --> 01:59:23.840
this kind of stuff well and yet we
continue to struggle to do it well and

1639
01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:28.080
so i'm curious if there's a if there's a
it's a it's an earlier step that we can

1640
01:59:28.080 --> 01:59:31.599
actually give ourselves credit for for
building those connections before we

1641
01:59:31.599 --> 01:59:35.119
jump you know
right into some of the really hairy

1642
01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:38.639
issues
i i have two quick responses and i think

1643
01:59:38.639 --> 01:59:41.920
probably shelian has more one
um

1644
01:59:41.920 --> 01:59:47.679
don't always think of
failed experiments as a failure

1645
01:59:47.679 --> 01:59:53.119
entrepreneurs if they never had a losing
you know if they never had a an idea

1646
01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:56.719
that they funded that didn't go well
they would think they're not being risky

1647
01:59:56.719 --> 02:00:00.560
they were not taking enough risks and
you have to this is what the laboratory

1648
02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:05.199
democracy meant you try out ideas so you
shouldn't be discouraged if you try out

1649
02:00:05.199 --> 02:00:09.920
ideas it didn't work try something else
trying is it's that experimental

1650
02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:13.760
attitude that the the progressives above
all had

1651
02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:18.960
secondly my my uh view is that you ought
to look first for

1652
02:00:18.960 --> 02:00:23.599
topics that are not political
but that that people get care to care

1653
02:00:23.599 --> 02:00:27.760
about
but that um

1654
02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:32.719
that cut across party lines and and the
my best example i i use it a lot but i

1655
02:00:32.719 --> 02:00:36.000
just
don't think i'm just picking on or just

1656
02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:39.280
using cleveland
i bet there are a lot of people in

1657
02:00:39.280 --> 02:00:43.440
cleveland who care about the
um

1658
02:00:43.440 --> 02:00:47.360
the cleveland sports teams
um yeah

1659
02:00:47.360 --> 02:00:51.520
maybe huh you don't have to worry about
that

1660
02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:58.000
across party lines and and they probably
have divergent views about

1661
02:00:58.000 --> 02:01:01.520
you know who should be quarterback next
year or

1662
02:01:01.520 --> 02:01:04.159
or
you know you i don't even have to go

1663
02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:07.280
through all those um
issues

1664
02:01:07.280 --> 02:01:12.320
and
hosting a session like that

1665
02:01:12.320 --> 02:01:15.280
it seems a little weird i recognize and
maybe it's not the right example but

1666
02:01:15.280 --> 02:01:19.360
what i'm trying to say is finding topics
that lots of people care about

1667
02:01:19.360 --> 02:01:23.119
in which their differences do not
correlate with their politics

1668
02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:28.159
that kind of discussion
builds is what builds a little bit of

1669
02:01:28.159 --> 02:01:32.159
trust because they you know after you
finish the conversation people are then

1670
02:01:32.159 --> 02:01:36.320
feeling a little more positive about the
guy who turns out to be actually turns

1671
02:01:36.320 --> 02:01:40.800
out to be trump's supporter or whatever
but that was not the most important

1672
02:01:40.800 --> 02:01:44.639
fact the most salient fact in the
conversation i don't think max it makes

1673
02:01:44.639 --> 02:01:47.679
sense or not phil
no it does

1674
02:01:47.679 --> 02:01:52.320
i did want to ask though if i could
say laying in you

1675
02:01:52.320 --> 02:01:56.000
has there
been any research to determine if the

1676
02:01:56.000 --> 02:01:58.639
younger you are the more flexible you
are

1677
02:01:58.639 --> 02:02:04.159
more likely you are to be open to
other discussion as compared to folks

1678
02:02:04.159 --> 02:02:07.280
maybe over 25.

1679
02:02:07.360 --> 02:02:11.199
that's a bob question for sure i mean i
can give a vague answer but you can be

1680
02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:15.840
much more specific bob and then i do
want to add a couple thoughts

1681
02:02:16.239 --> 02:02:19.239
yes

1682
02:02:19.520 --> 02:02:24.480
[Laughter]
[Applause]

1683
02:02:24.480 --> 02:02:28.639
yeah i mean i would just say to the
previous question you know braver angels

1684
02:02:28.639 --> 02:02:33.119
for example and there are many
they have been honing a facilitation

1685
02:02:33.119 --> 02:02:37.199
model to be able to create safe space to
talk about hot button issues they've

1686
02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:42.719
been working on that for instance 2016
or earlier and so that's why inviting

1687
02:02:42.719 --> 02:02:46.080
these organizations in that have the
tools and templates built they've

1688
02:02:46.080 --> 02:02:49.199
already made all the mistakes you can
make and they've figured out how to

1689
02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:52.480
facilitate those conversations in a
positive way

1690
02:02:52.480 --> 02:02:56.480
so that's one reason to look to that
expertise but the other thing i would

1691
02:02:56.480 --> 02:02:59.360
say is
the more you are building community

1692
02:02:59.360 --> 02:03:03.199
around affinity
affinity meaning we all like basket

1693
02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:06.719
weaving and so we come to the library to
learn basket weaving and then i discover

1694
02:03:06.719 --> 02:03:11.360
that the person i most across the table
with weaving a basket is a democrat and

1695
02:03:11.360 --> 02:03:14.960
i'm a republican
you know that is incredibly important

1696
02:03:14.960 --> 02:03:20.639
work you cannot you cannot understate
the value of that work

1697
02:03:20.639 --> 02:03:23.520
actually i think that's probably more
important

1698
02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:26.800
than these
um staged conversations where we get in

1699
02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:31.040
a room and debate our hot button issues
so i'm going to hop back to advocating

1700
02:03:31.040 --> 02:03:34.080
for the hot button issue debates though
which is that you have to keep in mind

1701
02:03:34.080 --> 02:03:38.000
that
if you are structuring debates well

1702
02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:42.480
you're building citizenship skills so
the goal is not always to get people to

1703
02:03:42.480 --> 02:03:46.320
come to the end of an hour and agree
or think oh all of a sudden i think well

1704
02:03:46.320 --> 02:03:51.599
of my republican neighbors or vice versa
but you think of it as citizen skill

1705
02:03:51.599 --> 02:03:57.280
building for having better debates
right learning how to debate is a

1706
02:03:57.280 --> 02:04:00.079
democratic skill

1707
02:04:00.480 --> 02:04:05.599
and who's the quarterback of the
cleveland browns as a hot button topic

1708
02:04:05.920 --> 02:04:09.520
interesting so
debate that and then you're building

1709
02:04:09.520 --> 02:04:13.920
skills that then you can transfer to
harder topics later on

1710
02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:17.040
all right
um as a time check i've gotten

1711
02:04:17.040 --> 02:04:20.239
permission to let this go a little
longer so we're going to have 15 more

1712
02:04:20.239 --> 02:04:25.040
minutes of q a and we'll make a little
bit of a shorter activity so i'd love to

1713
02:04:25.040 --> 02:04:29.760
have another question from the floor
hi my name is nicole cook i'm the

1714
02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:33.119
augusta baker endowed chair for
childhood literacy at the university of

1715
02:04:33.119 --> 02:04:37.599
south carolina
and i have a question for the panelists

1716
02:04:37.599 --> 02:04:41.679
so i just wanted to give a little
context there was a comment made about

1717
02:04:41.679 --> 02:04:44.719
lis education

1718
02:04:44.800 --> 02:04:49.760
i hear i hear the laughter already um so

1719
02:04:51.119 --> 02:04:57.280
so it's really not as simple as saying
oh the library school should teach x y

1720
02:04:57.280 --> 02:05:01.360
and z
and i you know before i make my next

1721
02:05:01.360 --> 02:05:06.560
comment i have personally told tracy
hall at ala all of these things

1722
02:05:06.560 --> 02:05:10.800
love tracy happy to support her and
she's on board but we are very much

1723
02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:17.599
constrained by accreditation
we are constrained by the phd pipeline

1724
02:05:17.599 --> 02:05:21.280
um you know i personally have been in
two

1725
02:05:21.280 --> 02:05:25.520
programs where i have innovated the
curriculum for equity diversity

1726
02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:29.679
inclusion and social justice
i am the only one teaching these classes

1727
02:05:29.679 --> 02:05:33.280
in my programs
right so who's coming to help me teach

1728
02:05:33.280 --> 02:05:36.480
these classes
and more importantly these classes are

1729
02:05:36.480 --> 02:05:38.960
electives
right so

1730
02:05:38.960 --> 02:05:42.800
you know i think that
part of what's happening is

1731
02:05:42.800 --> 02:05:48.239
uh is that you know the classic conflict
between theory and practice but i will

1732
02:05:48.239 --> 02:05:53.440
say that our programs are absolutely
putting out the upstanders the uprisers

1733
02:05:53.440 --> 02:05:57.760
the bystanders whatever we want to call
them um they may be geographically

1734
02:05:57.760 --> 02:06:03.840
constrained we certainly need more of
these students but they're there

1735
02:06:03.840 --> 02:06:08.239
and so i mean you know there's lots of
debate we can have about this but i just

1736
02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:10.960
i needed to push back a little bit on
that

1737
02:06:10.960 --> 02:06:15.440
i have at least
six of my lis faculty colleagues in the

1738
02:06:15.440 --> 02:06:20.000
audience here today and we are dancing
as fast as we can

1739
02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:25.199
so with that said um several of you in
the room have guests lectured for me and

1740
02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:30.719
i have my eye on quite a few more
so if you would like to guest lecture

1741
02:06:30.719 --> 02:06:35.760
and talk to the children directly
um i am happy to have you but just to

1742
02:06:35.760 --> 02:06:39.280
say we are
we don't do the mechanics of literacy

1743
02:06:39.280 --> 02:06:43.920
right we leave that to our wonderful
k-12 educators but we are talking about

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02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:46.800
the practice of reading and what it
means and how to have these

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02:06:46.800 --> 02:06:50.960
conversations i think a lot of you would
be really surprised at the things that

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02:06:50.960 --> 02:06:56.000
we're talking about so if we can you
know add to the lengthy list of what

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02:06:56.000 --> 02:07:01.520
we're doing here in the two days and
find a way to better partner up with the

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02:07:01.520 --> 02:07:09.079
lis programs i think we can absolutely
contribute to that progress thank you

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02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:17.119
i just wanted to comment what brian was
saying about uh facilitating these

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02:07:17.119 --> 02:07:20.400
conversations these difficult
conversations and i reach out to our

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02:07:20.400 --> 02:07:25.199
office of human rights
and they have been an extraordinary

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02:07:25.199 --> 02:07:30.719
partner in diversity dialogues we have
ongoing dialogues

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02:07:30.719 --> 02:07:34.480
they like you said are skilled at this
so

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02:07:34.480 --> 02:07:38.560
even when i had a staff discussion

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02:07:38.719 --> 02:07:42.800
i don't have the lived experience of my
staff i live in a majority minority

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02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:47.760
community in prince george's county
maryland and so i had the director of

1757
02:07:47.760 --> 02:07:52.719
the office of human rights lead this
conversation for me because i felt it

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02:07:52.719 --> 02:07:56.880
was important that my staff were able to
voice their opinions

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02:07:56.880 --> 02:08:01.199
but not from someone who looks like me
because i don't have that experience so

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02:08:01.199 --> 02:08:05.040
i just there's a lot of groups out there
that can help you facilitate so you

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02:08:05.040 --> 02:08:08.800
don't have to feel like
you're on your own island which of

1762
02:08:08.800 --> 02:08:13.920
course we all do sometimes so i just
want to make that comment thanks

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02:08:15.590 --> 02:08:20.400
[Applause]
um hi folks i'm rich rescal i'm the

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02:08:20.400 --> 02:08:25.119
director here at the d.c public library
anne friedman who welcomed us to this

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02:08:25.119 --> 02:08:29.360
building that she
started she mentioned a 2004 study that

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02:08:29.360 --> 02:08:34.159
the nea put out called reading at risk
and that was the study that documented

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02:08:34.159 --> 02:08:38.560
the decline in reading and also just and
also

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02:08:38.560 --> 02:08:42.400
sort of attached it to the corollaries
and other declines in civic

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02:08:42.400 --> 02:08:46.960
participation voting going to sporting
events

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02:08:46.960 --> 02:08:51.920
volunteering and all these other social
ills that we're talking about today

1771
02:08:51.920 --> 02:08:54.719
and while you're all talking about the
great things that so many of us are

1772
02:08:54.719 --> 02:08:57.679
doing in terms of
you know providing covet tests and all

1773
02:08:57.679 --> 02:09:01.119
these other great things i'm just
wondering fundamentally are any of us

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02:09:01.119 --> 02:09:05.199
figuring out a way to tie all these
great programs back to some of the core

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02:09:05.199 --> 02:09:09.199
stuff that we're to be doing right how
do we get how do we leverage giving out

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02:09:09.199 --> 02:09:13.920
a pcr test to getting somebody
interested in reading a book because i

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02:09:13.920 --> 02:09:17.440
think part of what and i won't speak for
crosby but i think part of what he wants

1778
02:09:17.440 --> 02:09:20.719
to do here is how do we like do all
these how do we take all these great

1779
02:09:20.719 --> 02:09:24.000
things and get people back to reading

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02:09:26.159 --> 02:09:29.840
open question if anybody has any ideas
[Music]

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02:09:29.840 --> 02:09:36.400
well i i can say for us that um we are
not a quiet library we're a no shushing

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02:09:36.400 --> 02:09:42.159
library um we do a lot of things that
are fun

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02:09:42.159 --> 02:09:45.199
drones
you know stem nights all those kind of

1784
02:09:45.199 --> 02:09:51.840
things so now we really are
a hangout for kids it used to be a place

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02:09:51.840 --> 02:09:56.960
that children weren't welcome
so at least we are getting them in the

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02:09:56.960 --> 02:10:03.760
building and exposing them
yeah i'll say to that i think one of the

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02:10:03.760 --> 02:10:08.480
keys to what we want to do
um in getting people in the building is

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02:10:08.480 --> 02:10:14.320
for them to recognize the traditional
model of what we do right and and the

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02:10:14.320 --> 02:10:19.040
importance of reading for them to be
successful but a lot of that comes along

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02:10:19.040 --> 02:10:23.920
with having it co-signed by others
one of the

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02:10:23.920 --> 02:10:29.520
part of the our new mayor talking about
uh us being the front door to democracy

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02:10:29.520 --> 02:10:32.560
was the first thing he said is i want to
do a

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02:10:32.560 --> 02:10:37.280
city-wide campaign on literacy right and
i want the library to to lead this

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02:10:37.280 --> 02:10:41.520
campaign
they all kind of started because he came

1795
02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:45.599
into the library
before he became mayor to get a cover

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02:10:45.599 --> 02:10:50.239
test right right this is not not part of
of

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02:10:50.239 --> 02:10:54.639
of many other things that he used the
library for and he did you know he he

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02:10:54.639 --> 02:10:58.880
did the swearing-in of his of the
honorary swearing-in at the library that

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02:10:58.880 --> 02:11:05.119
he went to as a kid right so
the idea that we have to take advantage

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02:11:05.119 --> 02:11:08.800
of these folks in our communities who
are tied to the library for a variety of

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02:11:08.800 --> 02:11:15.119
different reasons and then use their
bully pulpit to keep talking about that

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02:11:15.119 --> 02:11:17.920
i mean that's our job to get out there
and talk about reading and the

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02:11:17.920 --> 02:11:22.800
importance of reading but we need a lot
of people talking about it right and you

1804
02:11:22.800 --> 02:11:27.920
know beyonce talking about it would be
great right i

1805
02:11:27.920 --> 02:11:31.520
believe i have two daughters who would
do whatever beyonce says right but i

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02:11:31.520 --> 02:11:36.880
think we we need as many pie pipers
as possible talking about it and i

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02:11:36.880 --> 02:11:42.159
appreciate the idea at my table when we
first introduced ourselves i said i

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02:11:42.159 --> 02:11:46.000
appreciate the idea that i have to
try to

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02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:49.840
move away from my concept of really
focused on being focused on social

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02:11:49.840 --> 02:11:54.719
justice back to where i started in
libraries right and find a way to

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02:11:54.719 --> 02:11:59.599
integrate them together
and i will make i'll make a comment and

1812
02:11:59.599 --> 02:12:04.239
say that in
communities like mine where i come from

1813
02:12:04.239 --> 02:12:08.560
where i grew up as a child
i there were no libraries

1814
02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:11.840
i'm an immigrant i came to this country
undocumented

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02:12:11.840 --> 02:12:14.320
uh
there were no libraries

1816
02:12:14.320 --> 02:12:19.599
and so for
my job in my community is to really help

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02:12:19.599 --> 02:12:24.400
broaden that mindset of the community
that this is a library it is not a

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02:12:24.400 --> 02:12:28.400
libridia and a librarian means a
bookstore so for

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02:12:28.400 --> 02:12:33.920
changing the culture and the mindset of
what this institution is is very

1820
02:12:33.920 --> 02:12:37.760
important once we get them in the door
we can gain their trust

1821
02:12:37.760 --> 02:12:41.679
then we connect them to the book and we
connect them to the literacy programming

1822
02:12:41.679 --> 02:12:46.800
all the programming that we we create at
our library is outcome based programming

1823
02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:51.520
so we are measuring the success of the
reading levels for children we partner

1824
02:12:51.520 --> 02:12:54.639
directly with the school district and
support the school district in the

1825
02:12:54.639 --> 02:13:00.320
extended learning process
so it's changing um the culture for a

1826
02:13:00.320 --> 02:13:06.079
community like ours and so like i said
earlier ours is 50 latino which

1827
02:13:06.079 --> 02:13:11.119
presumed that our library is a bookstore
and so teaching that and helping them

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02:13:11.119 --> 02:13:15.840
understand that no we are a free
institution where you could access these

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02:13:15.840 --> 02:13:20.000
resources and learn how to
read

1830
02:13:20.000 --> 02:13:22.560
and so

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02:13:23.599 --> 02:13:27.760
i think we have time for one more
question may i ask one may i ask one

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02:13:27.760 --> 02:13:30.480
sorry
yes

1833
02:13:30.480 --> 02:13:34.000
can i ask one quick question
are

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02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:40.159
uh i'm so old that i when i was learning
to read i went with my mom every

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02:13:40.159 --> 02:13:43.360
saturday to a reading group at the
library

1836
02:13:43.360 --> 02:13:46.480
and in those years that's very
old-fashioned i know the family

1837
02:13:46.480 --> 02:13:50.400
structure was different and so on but
it's an updated version of that also now

1838
02:13:50.400 --> 02:13:54.960
common are reading groups for kids
common in libraries because i think

1839
02:13:54.960 --> 02:13:57.199
that's a
brilliant

1840
02:13:57.199 --> 02:14:00.239
yeah i mean i'm just responding to the
question that had been asked earlier

1841
02:14:00.239 --> 02:14:02.480
yeah
yeah

1842
02:14:02.480 --> 02:14:07.040
story time is the foundation of what we
do yes

1843
02:14:08.320 --> 02:14:12.800
am i on
you are yes hi i'm lisa um and i run a

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02:14:12.800 --> 02:14:16.800
large public library system and you know
i think we're in

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02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.960
a really interesting period because we
know technology saved us during the

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02:14:20.960 --> 02:14:25.119
early part of coven right all of us who
run public libraries say libraries open

1847
02:14:25.119 --> 02:14:30.480
technology technology we put out hot
spots we boosted signals we had people

1848
02:14:30.480 --> 02:14:34.159
we lent out hot spots we lent out
laptops

1849
02:14:34.159 --> 02:14:37.840
the problem is
i think we're moving back to transaction

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02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:43.520
felton it's not just the lending out of
the thing it is what they're doing with

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02:14:43.520 --> 02:14:46.560
the thing
and i think this is the opportunity

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02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:51.520
crosby because and the citizenship part
and i know uw is doing some fabulous

1853
02:14:51.520 --> 02:14:54.560
work by the way i need more money from
uw

1854
02:14:54.560 --> 02:14:59.840
to do that work
but i think what we need to do is be

1855
02:14:59.840 --> 02:15:05.520
carnegie was about improving and we can
all disagree what improvement meant in

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02:15:05.520 --> 02:15:11.040
19th century versus now but he was about
bettering the community bettering

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02:15:11.040 --> 02:15:16.400
oneself and i think we have the
opportunity now with technology if we're

1858
02:15:16.400 --> 02:15:21.119
good and careful to get away from the
transaction part and how are we

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02:15:21.119 --> 02:15:26.400
bettering our communities how are we
helping them navigate the technology

1860
02:15:26.400 --> 02:15:31.360
that we are now providing the broadband
the stuff out all the stuff our rural

1861
02:15:31.360 --> 02:15:34.639
communities need and by the way our
suburban communities need to

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02:15:34.639 --> 02:15:39.280
so that's just the question i have of
all of you and all of us to be

1863
02:15:39.280 --> 02:15:43.199
thoughtful when we jump on the
technology bandwagon and i love

1864
02:15:43.199 --> 02:15:47.679
technology that we're doing it in the
way public libraries do it the best

1865
02:15:47.679 --> 02:15:52.400
which is to help the people people be
the better of themselves that they want

1866
02:15:52.400 --> 02:15:58.400
to be to be them their own better selves
whatever that looks like make sense

1867
02:15:58.400 --> 02:16:02.400
thank you
all right

1868
02:16:03.280 --> 02:16:07.440
i want to give
each of our speakers one last closing

1869
02:16:07.440 --> 02:16:10.159
thought maybe 30 seconds or a minute
each

1870
02:16:10.159 --> 02:16:13.119
responding to questions or just if you
have something on your heart you want to

1871
02:16:13.119 --> 02:16:15.360
say

1872
02:16:16.560 --> 02:16:19.840
anybody want to start

1873
02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:24.400
can i just respond quickly to that and
maybe make this my closing thought i i

1874
02:16:24.400 --> 02:16:28.800
mean i see enormous opportunity for
libraries to be stepping into the space

1875
02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:33.519
of training citizens for how to navigate
the information

1876
02:16:33.519 --> 02:16:36.800
that is coming at them which i think is
a little bit what you're getting at

1877
02:16:36.800 --> 02:16:39.280
right
and i think this is

1878
02:16:39.280 --> 02:16:43.200
the number one arena in which we need
civic

1879
02:16:43.200 --> 02:16:46.800
innovation
how are we going to manage the fact that

1880
02:16:46.800 --> 02:16:51.120
we have a citizenry that doesn't know
truth from falsehood

1881
02:16:51.120 --> 02:16:54.639
how do we train because it used to be
you know you could just check out a book

1882
02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:58.000
right and yes there were some debate
about what books were good and what were

1883
02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:01.679
bad but like now we're not in that space
anymore that's obvious you don't need me

1884
02:17:01.679 --> 02:17:05.040
to expound on that but i think that this
is

1885
02:17:05.040 --> 02:17:08.719
going back to the to the root of what
libraries originally were it's about

1886
02:17:08.719 --> 02:17:11.920
information and that is one of the most
hotly

1887
02:17:11.920 --> 02:17:16.880
contested spaces now in our democracy
that may be

1888
02:17:16.880 --> 02:17:20.639
the do or die for our democracy
information

1889
02:17:20.639 --> 02:17:25.359
and so i i would just challenge you
um not to put one more thing on your

1890
02:17:25.359 --> 02:17:28.559
enormous plates but
what

1891
02:17:28.559 --> 02:17:34.000
is this what is the action there
that is directly tied to citizenship

1892
02:17:34.000 --> 02:17:38.960
about navigating
a very difficult information space much

1893
02:17:38.960 --> 02:17:44.240
of which is online
and i would say

1894
02:17:44.240 --> 02:17:48.240
thank you thank you for
being patient with

1895
02:17:48.240 --> 02:17:52.800
my story our story here and being
willing to hear this story

1896
02:17:52.800 --> 02:17:57.280
uh what i what i will share is what
drives me daily

1897
02:17:57.280 --> 02:18:02.639
is to be relevant to our community all
of our community all the taxpayers

1898
02:18:02.639 --> 02:18:07.679
not just a certain segment of the
population that speaks of their needs

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02:18:07.679 --> 02:18:13.040
i i want to work towards that in our
library i'm going to continue to enhance

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02:18:13.040 --> 02:18:16.639
the programming that takes place out of
the community center

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02:18:16.639 --> 02:18:21.439
and and transform a community to make
them more productive members of society

1902
02:18:21.439 --> 02:18:25.439
through the work that we're doing in our
library so it's exciting to be a part of

1903
02:18:25.439 --> 02:18:29.840
something like this
and it's exciting to be a leading force

1904
02:18:29.840 --> 02:18:34.800
at least in my neck of the woods
to do something like this i have been

1905
02:18:34.800 --> 02:18:38.719
approached by several libraries in my
community who would like to learn more

1906
02:18:38.719 --> 02:18:42.960
of how to do this and i'm excited to be
a part of that teaching and that

1907
02:18:42.960 --> 02:18:47.280
connectedness because we're all together
in this like like you shared earlier

1908
02:18:47.280 --> 02:18:50.960
we're in this together we're all one
people and so

1909
02:18:50.960 --> 02:18:56.000
it's exciting to be a part of such such
a thing where we could help transform

1910
02:18:56.000 --> 02:18:59.760
all members of the community

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02:19:00.160 --> 02:19:04.000
and i'll i'll just speak to the
technology

1912
02:19:04.000 --> 02:19:08.240
through an
example we are starting a program that

1913
02:19:08.240 --> 02:19:14.319
we're hiring 15 teenagers to be digital
navigators for specifically for older

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02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:18.000
adults
and we're starting that in partnership

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02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:22.160
with the health science center is coming
and they're bringing a simulation lab

1916
02:19:22.160 --> 02:19:26.960
for the teens the first training session
will be to learn how it is to work with

1917
02:19:26.960 --> 02:19:33.519
computers if you have low vision or
hearing issues issues or mobility issues

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02:19:33.519 --> 02:19:37.280
and so through this program we will be
teaching

1919
02:19:37.280 --> 02:19:43.679
the the teens will be learning
some soft skills they'll be learning job

1920
02:19:43.679 --> 02:19:49.520
skills um i've been reading about the
longevity economy our rural area needs

1921
02:19:49.520 --> 02:19:55.200
people to be able to to
age in place i hope some of those teams

1922
02:19:55.200 --> 02:20:00.080
see entrepreneurial
opportunities as they go through this

1923
02:20:00.080 --> 02:20:04.479
program
through ecf those

1924
02:20:04.479 --> 02:20:10.000
seniors will be getting specific devices
that they can keep so it just to me it

1925
02:20:10.000 --> 02:20:14.560
all comes together
all these things work together for

1926
02:20:14.560 --> 02:20:22.080
social well-being for our communities
and i would say and this is a point

1927
02:20:22.080 --> 02:20:26.880
which you're making there certainly
um success moves at the speed of trust

1928
02:20:26.880 --> 02:20:29.920
right and we are very fortunate that as
an

1929
02:20:29.920 --> 02:20:33.680
industry
and as a profession we are very trusted

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02:20:33.680 --> 02:20:37.359
right and we can use that trust
um to really

1931
02:20:37.359 --> 02:20:40.399
make a difference in our communities but
i think we

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02:20:40.399 --> 02:20:43.680
and i was just saying this i think we
have to really start to focus on our

1933
02:20:43.680 --> 02:20:47.520
youngest people because
they have been through a trauma that no

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02:20:47.520 --> 02:20:52.000
one else can ever ever experience just
imagine all of our 10 year olds

1935
02:20:52.000 --> 02:20:55.840
eight-year-olds who haven't been to
school who have gone through and seen

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02:20:55.840 --> 02:21:00.720
losses in their life they are willing to
and ready to make a change in this in

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02:21:00.720 --> 02:21:05.760
the way this world is and we've got to
be willing to help them do that

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02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:10.640
thank you
robert putnam

1939
02:21:11.040 --> 02:21:16.560
i'd like to uh build a little bit on on
what felt just said libraries have many

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02:21:16.560 --> 02:21:22.800
different age constituencies
uh very young kids

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02:21:22.800 --> 02:21:24.840
um
you know young

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02:21:24.840 --> 02:21:29.680
adults uh
older adults even really old adults like

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02:21:29.680 --> 02:21:31.680
me
um

1944
02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:35.760
but from the point of view of
building a social movement that is going

1945
02:21:35.760 --> 02:21:39.359
to
change america i'm going back to our the

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02:21:39.359 --> 02:21:45.280
story we told in the shalin told
it was young americans in their late

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02:21:45.280 --> 02:21:50.160
teens and twenties the last time who let
us out

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02:21:50.160 --> 02:21:54.319
there are some good examples of that now
that is there are some terrific examples

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02:21:54.319 --> 02:21:55.760
of
kids

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02:21:55.760 --> 02:22:00.000
of that age group
uh that are helping to lead a civic

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02:22:00.000 --> 02:22:05.120
renewal in america
but inevitably they're a minority

1952
02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:09.760
most kids of that age are not leading
civic

1953
02:22:09.760 --> 02:22:12.479
renewal activities they've got other
things on their mind it's my

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02:22:12.479 --> 02:22:15.840
grandchildren i know them i know that
age group very well

1955
02:22:15.840 --> 02:22:19.840
but i think libraries ought to be
thinking about that constituency too not

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02:22:19.840 --> 02:22:24.000
just the people who are learning to read
not just the people like me who you know

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02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:28.319
or
need to be brought into libraries to you

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02:22:28.319 --> 02:22:32.640
know to keep us from being lonely
but

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this is really a point that
that um tell me earlier and i'm just i'm

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risk reiterating and not just the what
you do for young kids

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but
inviting

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peop young people in their late teens
and twenties

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into libraries to be agents not to just
to receive stuff from you but to be

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agents to help you become
um active contributor to revitalizing

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american democracy
well on that note can we all thank our

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panelists and speakers

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