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[regal horns music]

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CORONA IS ABOUT 70% LATIN AMERICAN.

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WHAT WE SAW WAS THIS AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO WORK IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, GET OUTSIDE

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OF THE DOORS OF THE MUSEUM, AND NOT JUST ABOUT
BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE MUSEUM, BUT STARTING

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TO WORK OUTSIDE IN THAT COMMUNITY WITH THOSE
NEW IMMIGRANTS.

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SO NOT JUST OPEN UP ART POSSIBILITIES, BUT
TO OPEN UP LIFE POSSIBILITIES.

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YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY
GREAT TO DO SOME PUBLIC ART PROJECTS.

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SO WE APPLIED TO THE INSTITUTE FOR MUSEUM
AND LIBRARY SERVICES AND GOT A GRANT FOR TWO

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YEARS, AND THAT GRANT WAS CALLED "CORONA:
CENTER OF EVERYWHERE."

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AND THAT WAS OUR FIRST REALLY IN-DEPTH EXPERIMENT
WITH HOW WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS ART

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PROJECTS INTERWOVEN INTO THOSE FESTIVALS.

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SO WE'D HAVE THESE STREET FAIRS WHERE WE WOULD
HAVE LOCAL PERFORMERS, DANCE GROUPS, MUSIC

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GROUPS, AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS OF FINDING
ALL THIS LOCAL TALENT WAS GREAT FOR US AS

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WELL.

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THERE ARE QUITE A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHED MUSICIANS
AND DANCERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A LOT

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OF THEM ARE TEACHING OR STARTING SCHOOLS AS
WELL HERE.

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SO IT'S REALLY A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, AND WHAT
WE SAW WAS THAT THAT'S AN ASSET TO US AS A

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CULTURAL INSTITUTION.

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SHAUN LEONARDO IS AN ARTIST WHO HAS A PERSONA
AS A LUCHA LIBRE WRESTLER, WHICH IS THIS MEXICAN

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TRADITION OF WEARING THE MASK AND WRESTLING.

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IT'S A SORT OF POP CULTURE-- LIKE PROFESSIONAL
WRESTLING WE HAVE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

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THERE ACTUALLY WAS A SUMMERLONG CAMPAIGN INTRODUCING
THIS CHARACTER TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY OF CORONA

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PLAZA.

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WE PUT A PROMO VIDEO IN STOREFRONTS AND WINDOWFRONTS.

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I VISITED THE COMMUNITY, VISITED RESTAURANTS.

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I EVEN VISITED SCHOOLS AND INTRODUCED EL "C"
TO ABOUT 200 STUDENTS, SMALL KIDS.

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THE IDEA WAS THAT BY THE TIME THIS WRESTLING
EVENT APPROACHED, THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD

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ALREADY FEEL A SENSE OF CONNECTION TO THIS
PERSON.

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WE ONLY PITCHED IT AS A WRESTLING EVENT.

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SO BY THE TIME I STEPPED UP INTO THAT RING,
EVERYONE EXPECTED ANOTHER OPPONENT.

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SO THAT ELEMENT OF SURPRISE, THAT HUMOR, THAT
ELEMENT OF--OF REALLY INTRODUCING PERFORMANCE

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ART ACTIVITY AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT AND ANNOUNCING
THIS ENTIRE EVENT THAT'S A LUCHA LIBRE WRESTLING

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SPECTACLE WAS VERY INTEGRAL TO THE IDEA.

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SO IT WASN'T UNTIL I QUITE LITERALLY STARTED
GRAPPLING WITH NO ONE THAT THEY REALIZED,

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HEY, SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON HERE.

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[chuckles] [crowd cheering]

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HE GOT INTO THE RING, AND HE WRESTLED THE
INVISIBLE MAN.

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SO I ALREADY SET MYSELF UP AS THIS CHAMPION
OF THE COMMUNITY.

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AND THEY RECEIVED ME AS THAT.

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BUT AS THE MATCH PROCEEDS, IT GETS QUITE INTENSE.

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PEOPLE REALIZE THAT I'M QUITE LITERALLY DAMAGING
MY OWN BODY.

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IN MEXICAN WRESTLING, THE TRADITION IS THAT
THE IDENTITY IS UNDERSTOOD ONLY BY THE DESIGN

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OF THE MASK.

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[grunting]

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[shouting in Spanish]

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THEY WANT A HERO IN THEIR LIVES.

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THEY WANT VICTORY.

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AND ESSENTIALLY, I TEAR DOWN THAT PERSON THROUGHOUT
THE MATCH.

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HE IS LEFT BARED TO COMPLETE EXPOSURE BECAUSE
I DE-MASK MYSELF.

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[crowd jeering]

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THE WHOLE THING WAS MEANT TO BE LARGER THAN
LIFE AND THEN TO HAVE HIM LOSE, AND HE WAS

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EL CONQUISTADOR VERSUS EL HOMBRE INVISIBLE.

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SO IT WAS THIS KIND OF THING ABOUT WHO'S INVISIBLE
AND NOT VISIBLE, WHO'S THE CONQUEROR, OR,

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YOU KNOW, IT BROUGHT UP IMPERIAL EXPERIENCE
AND SO FORTH AND THIS KIND OF LUCHA LIBRE

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PERFORMER AS THIS, YOU KNOW, INVINCIBLE ANTI-IMPERIALIST.

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[crowd cheering]

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THE STRUCTURE AROUND IT WAS THAT THERE WAS
THIS DAYLONG COMMUNITY FESTIVAL THAT WENT

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ON ALL AFTERNOON.

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AND THERE WERE A SERIES OF TENTS ALL THROUGH
CORONA PLAZA, AND YOU HAD HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS

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AND IMMIGRANT RIGHTS GROUPS.

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SO THERE WAS--THE KIND OF SOCIAL MET THE ARTISTIC.

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THE OPPOSITE OF THAT MAYBE WOULD BE MIKE ESTABROOK'S
PROJECT, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY

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QUIET IN SOME SENSES.

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HIS PROJECT WAS TO CREATE A KIND OF MASCOT
FOR CORONA, AND IT WAS CALLED LA CORONITA,

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WHICH, UNLIKE THIS BIG, OVER-THE-TOP FIGURE,
WAS THIS LITTLE GIRL FIGURE WHO HAD A CROWN.

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IT WAS KIND OF LIKE IF YOU READ CHILDREN'S
BOOKS OR SOMETHING, LIKE, THE IMAGINATION

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OF WHAT A HERO--YOU KNOW, A LITTLE GIRL WHO
THINKS SHE'S THE HERO OR WHATEVER OF THE COMMUNITY.

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AND CORONITA IS, LIKE, A DIMINUTIVE OF CORONA.

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THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO JUST INVOLVE
THE COMMUNITY DIRECTLY IN THE PROCESS AND

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ACTUALLY HAVE THEM USE THEIR MEMORIES AND
THEIR IDEAS OF WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEANS

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TO THEM AS A PART OF THE PIECE.

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ONE OF THE STORIES I USED CONCERNED THE LAKE
IN CORONA PARK.

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SOMEONE WROTE THAT THAT WAS THEIR FAVORITE
PLACE BECAUSE IT REMINDED THEM OF THEIR HOME

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IN ECUADOR, AND THEY REMEMBERED BEING ON BOATS
IN THE LAKE WITH THEIR BROTHER AND JUST, YOU

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KNOW, KIND OF BOATING AROUND.

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SO I MADE AN ANIMATION BASED ON THAT AND INSTALLED
TWO FIGURES OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAKE

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IN A BOAT.

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WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE BOATHOUSE OVER
THERE, WHICH WAS THIS KIND OF NEAT, ALTERNATIVE,

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FUNKY BOATHOUSE PLACE THAT-- THEY WERE MORE
THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH US, AND YEAH, THEY

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LENT US A BOAT AND HELPED US ANCHOR IT.

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AND IT WAS OUT THERE FOR TWO MONTHS WITH TWO
OF MY LITTLE CUTOUT CHARACTERS.

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A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY REALLY SAID
THAT ART WASN'T SOMETHING THAT IT NEEDED.

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THEY HAD A PRECONCEIVED NOTION OF WHAT ART
WAS.

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AND THEY THOUGHT ART WOULD JUST--WAS JUST--
WE'RE GONNA BRING A PAINTING AND INSTALL IT

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IN YOUR BUSINESS, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE-- WE'RE
GONNA MAKE SOME KIND OF ABSTRACT STRUCTURE

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AND STICK IT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

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BUT IN REALITY, I THINK, ONCE THEY GOT TO
WORK WITH US MORE, THEY REALLY SAW THAT THE

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ART THAT WE WERE REFERRING TO WAS SOMETHING
DEEPER THAN THAT.

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IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT CREATED AS AN AUDIENCE
DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE.

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THAT'S IN NONE OF THE GRANT APPLICATION.

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WE ALMOST NEVER TALK ABOUT IT.

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BUT IT WAS AMAZING IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT
OUR AUDIENCES HAVE CONTINUED TO GROW.

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A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMMING IS DONE RIGHT NOW
THROUGH SUGGESTIONS FROM COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS,

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SO AT LEAST 1/3 OF ALL OF OUR PUBLIC PROGRAMMING,
WHETHER THEY BE EVENTS, FESTIVALS, AND SO

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FORTH.

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THOSE--A LOT OF THEM COME TO US RIGHT NOW
FROM PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE WITH US FIRST AT OFF-SITE,

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AT CORONA PLAZA, OR, YOU KNOW, THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS
THAT WE DEVELOPED OR THROUGH PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS.

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AND SO THAT, TO ME, IS IMPORTANT THAT WHAT
HAS RESULTED IN GENERAL IS A SENSE THAT THE

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MUSEUM IS OPEN.

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WE'RE NOT A COMMUNITY CENTER.

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WE REALLY AREN'T, AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO
LOOK LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER.

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WE'RE IN A MUSEUM, A FORMAL MUSEUM.

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THE IDEA IS TO OPEN THE DOORS TO THAT KIND
OF FORMAL SPACE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOT

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TO BE A COMMUNITY CENTER FIRST.

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I THINK IT'S MORE INTERESTING TO BE SORT OF
BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

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THE BIGGEST THING THAT MUSEUMS CAN TAKE FROM
PROJECTS AND THINGS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO OPEN

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YOUR DOORS TO THE COMMUNITY.

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YOU HAVE TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

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YOU HAVE TO REALLY MAKE-- HAVE THE COMMUNITY
UNDERSTAND WHAT ART IS AND ALSO LEARN WHAT

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ART IS FOR THEM AND ALSO INCORPORATE THAT
IN YOUR OWN MUSEUM.

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WHAT WE LEARNED WHEN WE TALKED TO THE ARTISTS
THAT PARTICIPATED IN "CORONA PLAZA: CENTER

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OF EVERYWHERE" IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LONGER RESIDENCIES

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SO THAT THEY COULD BUILD THEIR PROJECTS MORE
ORGANICALLY BASED ON THEIR RESEARCH AND THEIR

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TIME SPENT.

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WE HAVE--A PARTNER ON THIS IS CREATIVE TIME,
ANOTHER PUBLIC ART ORGANIZATION IN NEW YORK,

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AND TOGETHER, WE HAVE SPONSORED TANIA BRUGUERA.

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AND SHE HAS ACTUALLY MOVED TO CORONA, AND
SHE'S SPENDING 24/7 IN CORONA, HAS SET UP

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SHOP ON ROOSEVELT AVENUE IN A STOREFRONT,
AND SHE'S GONNA DO A YEARLONG PROJECT ABOUT

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IMMIGRATION IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S GRADUALLY
TAKING SHAPE.

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PART OF THE PROJECT IS TO TRY TO LOOK AT THE
WAY IN WHICH WE REPRESENT THE IMMIGRANTS.

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AND PART OF THAT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE WAY
IN WHICH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATE FOR

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THEIR RIGHTS.

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AND I THINK ONE SPECIFIC ASPECT IS SLOGANS.

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SO I'M TRYING TO SET UP A SLOGAN WORKSHOP.

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FOR ME, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT WE TAKE FROM
IT.

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YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS HAVE A CERTAIN LIFE
SPAN, AND SOMETIMES THE ARTIST'S, YOU KNOW,

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ENGAGEMENT IN THAT ENDS AT A PARTICULAR TIME,
AND THAT'S FINE, BUT AS AN INSTITUTION THAT'S

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INVESTED IN SEEING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS OR
THOSE IDEAS BE BUILT ON, SO THAT, FOR ME,

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IS SUCCESS.

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