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Welcome back, everybody.

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Good morning.

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Welcome back to the.

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The state library job Fair, Day
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I hope you all found your
perfect candidates yesterday and

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we'll just recycle the name
badges and swap out the states

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next year. It'll be great.

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Welcome back.

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We we are heading into the last
day of the conference. I see the

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luggage has already found its
way over to the back wall. We're

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going to have a dedicated break
at 10:00 o'clock that's longer.

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It's a 10 to 10:30 break if you
need to check out of your rooms.

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And we know this elevators are
not moving fast so we hope you

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make it through, but luggage can
go in the back. We have an

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exciting morning with our
director this morning and I'm

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just going to spend the 1st 15
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Kind of kicking us off.

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We'll play a fun game if you're
up for it, so be thinking about

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this. I'm going to ask you to
finish the phrase I came to

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Seattle and.

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Blank I came to Seattle and I
blank. So you can share things

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from the work World Conference.
You can share things from your

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tourism venues out in the world.
You can share things you learned

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from fellow participants. I came
to Seattle and I blank and if

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you do this.

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We've got some leftover Emerald
City candies for you.

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I think we'll kick it off though
with our parking lot questions

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from yesterday. These were the
things that we didn't have time

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to answer during the scheduled
program. So we're going to

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revisit them a bit today, so.

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You know kind of going in order
from the topics that we covered

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yesterday, we had a question
will addition this is in

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pertinence to the state program
report, the SPR, will additional

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materials be public facing in
the future?

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? It's a question mark for us
too. We have heard that that

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might be helpful. We've heard
that we might need to put some

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controls around that, like some
things being public and some

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things not that you would have
control over. So we'll certainly

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be looking into it, but we don't
know yet. We're going to find

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out.

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What makes the project exemplary
in the SPR? A number of things.

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These are determined by you.
They help us though when you are

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a state that maybe has 100
projects to choose from and we

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get a call from someone in your
state that might work on the

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hill and they want to know like
what the exemplary projects were

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last year, what were the
highlights. It's really hard for

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us to parse through 100 projects
in like 4 hours. So if you have

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marked.

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Something exemplary, it's super
helpful to us. Maybe it was done

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super cost efficiently and
became a model for the rest of

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this state. Maybe it's
representative partnerships. I

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mean, you will know and your
recipients will know when

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something really was
outstanding. We hope and we hope

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that you'll utilize that
exemplary projects field to let

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us know what those are.

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Made a comment about
implementing the multi factor

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authentication so I know
sweetheart will be all ears.

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One issue with login.gov is that
even if you check off that you

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want it to remember your device,
it almost every time, even

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within a day or two in some in
some way asks for you to

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recertify again. So for a system
like the SPR, please make sure

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it remembers us for longer.

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And then I think this is a
clarification statement, it's

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about reporting for the 23 to 27
five year plan.

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In the in the SPR, we will
report on old projects coming

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up. That's correct. The next
reporting cycle if you're not

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already in an extension for
ARPA, which means you're in

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fiscal 21, the next cycle that's
coming up and ending is fiscal

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year 2022 that was in the old
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So in the five year evaluation
we will need the new project

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info for 20 to 23. I think
that's their state range. For

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the first year of the evaluation
we rearranged a lot of our

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projects and added some in the
new plan. So I think the system

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and our coaching you through the
five year valuation for the next

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cycle will accommodate this.
We're going to have the next

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five year evaluation
accommodating fiscal year 2324

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and 25.

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Because as you know, we can only
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years of a five year cycle when
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So it's not that the 2022 grants
are a throwaway. We still really

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care about them, but they're not
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formal evaluation and they will
come under your old goals. And

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we keep saying over and over
again, don't change your goals

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yet and This is why.

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OK, we have.

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It's just that inspirational
content, intentional approach to

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belonging, inclusion and equity.
Maybe that is coaching us

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towards a place in the future.
And if so, we appreciate you.

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Then we've got a fun question. I
guess this is a show of hands or

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maybe a microphone question.

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In honor of Taylor Swift's
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Which Swifty Sarah are you? I
don't know the Swifty eras, so

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I'm I'm a bad asker of this
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Anyone.

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Folklore. I hear a folklore.

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And some seconds enter enter was
it red? I'm so out of this.

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Great question.

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Great question.

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What was that reputation?

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I mean, I mean Taylor Swift, OK.

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Great question.

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Let's let's go on to our our
trivia question. I came to

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Seattle and I blank who would
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at a microphone to go 1st to
tell us how they end that

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sentence.

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I gave you 3 minutes to think
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Three or the hills of San
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Hey.

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Thank you.

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I came to Seattle and thought I
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walking the hills of Seattle.

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We're still here.

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I came to Seattle and took an
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hills.

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I came to Seattle and I saw the
shrunken heads.

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Do you want to know where they
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If you walk down the street,
down the hill, and you could

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take an Uber back, get to the
water and there's a place called

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yield curiosity shop, and it's
right on the water. It's

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Seattle, go to place, and they
have tiny shrunken heads and all

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sorts of weird.

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Greetings.

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I'm so excited I actually got to
come to Seattle. I did not get

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stuck in Atlanta this year.

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And given that Wendy was our MC
yesterday, we're so glad you

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made it. Great MC job.

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I came to Seattle and I learned
that people like to take stuff

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from Ohio and that Evan doesn't
know inches from feet.

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May I have two OK.

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I came to Seattle, took an Uber
to a restaurant which turned out

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to be closed, and walked up the
hill. And the second time.

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And I came to Seattle and I'm
taking pics at home.

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I came to Seattle and I followed
Susan to the restaurant that was

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closed.

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We all follow Susan sometimes.

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All right. Thank you for
indulging that. It's great to

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hear how you spent your time in
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All right. We are turning to a
session I'm really excited

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about.

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And I I want to say that we,
we've had a setting of

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expectations with our current
director, Crosby Kemper, that

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I'm not sure we'll be able to
maintain in the future. Crosby

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has graced us with his presence
at this conference for many

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years running, and I'm here to
tell you that's not the norm. So

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sorry, Crosby, we we roped you
in unknowingly to this

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conference. We're so grateful
that you've been coming and

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spending your time.

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With us, though, it really means
a lot. Crosby is headed into his

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last year with IMS, so we've
prepped everybody to ask their

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best and brightest questions of
you. We have 45 minutes to hear

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from Crosby and he, you know, as
many of you know, has been just

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a wonderful director for this
time. He's gotten us through the

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pandemic. He is a driving force
behind why the stimulus funds

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happened.

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And rolled out so well, he
continues. Yeah, let's give him.

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He continues to bring really
positive energy and focus from

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other arenas to our agency. You
continues to bring new resources

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in the form of personnel and
funding into our agency in ways

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that we haven't seen for years.
And on top of all this, he times

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finds time to read deeply and
think critically and make us all

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laugh all the time. So I hope
that you'll enjoy this next.

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We have maybe 1/2 an hour to
hear from Crosby and then maybe

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15 minutes or so for questions.
Please help me welcome him, our

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director.

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Thank you Terry, so much. I
appreciate. I always love

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Terry's introductions. She
describes the person I don't

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recognize, but she said I'm not
the norm and what she really

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meant is I'm not normal.

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And and that's and that's true.
So you know you're going to hear

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from me today and I apologize in
advance. I I came to Seattle

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expecting that it would rain and
I'm so disappointed.

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So I do have a theme and and I
Jamie from Arizona asked me a

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great question just a few
minutes over here about

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application processes and money
for for the digital divide and

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and that sort of thing. So I
think actually the question and

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answer session may be the most
important thing. So I'll try and

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get through what I I have to say
fairly fairly quickly. I

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actually have about 10 pages of
things I wanted to say. So I'll

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try and cut it down a little bit
so we can get to the questions.

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I do have a scene and I was
reading the, I read a little bit

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of the new book by a guy named
Richard Haass, who's one of our

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leading diplomats and and
president of the Council on

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Foreign Relations for a long
time. It's called the bill of

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obligations and in it he has a
great phrase that I give to you

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and I hope I'll also finish with
this theme of my remarks, which

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is he said in this country we
have a commitment to rights and

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we all know how important that
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Even even in sometimes the
absence of our fully adhering to

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the those rights that we're all
struggling to retain, the

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commitment to, to rights that is
in our founding and is in our

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DNA. I think they said we have a
commitment to rights, but we

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also need a culture of
obligation. That obligation is

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the other side of rights of the
coin of our realm, and I believe

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that's absolutely true.

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And I'll get back to that in a
minute. But the first thing I

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want to say to you about.

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Grants to states program, state
librarians, state library

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authorities is that you are the
partners with this agency in the

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largest cultural program of the
federal government.

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It is, I think, one of the most,
if not the most important

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programs for a lot of reasons.
When I last talked to you, last

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talked to us, a state library
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Meeting in Montana retreat in
Montana, I was talking about Jay

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Ashcroft and some rulemaking
that that JJ had done for

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spending of state library money
and in Missouri and I I sent him

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a letter about this. He actually
asked my opinion about about

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this, which was a mistake on his
part because I told him that it

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wouldn't work, that he was
giving handing to every every

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any citizen.

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With any kind of reason for
restricting the book, the

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ability for anybody to restrict
a book for everybody, and that's

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the exact opposite of what
libraries should be doing, and

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it makes it impossible for for a
library to maintain a

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collection. You could have a
Wahabi Muslim come in and say, I

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don't want any books with an
undressed woman. I am woman not

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completely covered.

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That would eliminate very large
percentage of our books. You

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could you could have it the the
question.

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A book like Huckleberry Finn,
which if you're an African

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American parent you might have a
reason to to not want your child

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to read Huckleberry Finn,
particularly at a certain age

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because the N word is all
through it now. It's it is in,

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one in and it's at core it's the
first great anti racist novel.

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It's it's a it's a satire of of
racism. But not every child is

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going to understand that at a
certain age. So do we take

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Huckleberry Finn?

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Library shelves do we take?

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You could go through a list of
any any kind of objection to

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books and and just about any
book would could be taken off.

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actually the person that who's
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the original author of the
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Congress just passed the house
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if you actually read it
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Making sure that parents have an
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school districts, but also
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that in the library Bill of
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librarianship is actually
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endorse. The single most
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however, is that it is a federal
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And the United States, with the
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The federal government has never
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libraries should operate.
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districts, are local
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I'm a madisonian. I'm a believer
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unique system of government with
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of of sovereignty, including not
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state governments and local
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and libraries are are part of
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Letlow, who is the congressman,
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Who wrote the bill? I will
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the bill and I think the Ala
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I think they made a mistake in
the heavy criticism they gave

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through billing and just simply
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responsibility, it is a local
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I think the local responsibility
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single most important thing
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We we live in a time when
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when we see social media.

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Encouraging the extremes of our
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each other as others, Mark
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thinking he was going to create
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he's created a global nightmare
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we can be on social media. And
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lot of librarians.

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We we should, we should pay
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understanding each other. That
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librarians to understand our
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everybody in our Community as an
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households are single person
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country, I think in the history
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frontline librarian understands
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mental health problems that we
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of course not encouraged by drug
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not just the Sacklers, it's it's
good to have a a villain in all

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of this but in fact we're all
engaged in this people living

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alone, people with with drug and
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health problems.

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Encounters with the justice
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librarians know, homelessness,
crime, you name eviction. Any

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problem that we have in our
community is tied directly back

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to these problems, the problems
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also tied directly back to
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We know that most homeless
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homeless people, significant
portion, majority are either

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homeless people of criminals of
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people who have either limited
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media and simple in simple ways
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that we concentrate again in in,
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came from, which is reading and
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So to to to tell you a little
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year ago in March, we had a
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literacy with Robert Putnam from
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UCLA and and some leaders in the
library world talking about

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this, talking about what we know
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what we know about reading. We
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more. So we're going to be doing
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Birnbaum, who is our.

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There he is, and he'll be doing
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Working with the library
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the research community on early
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think ultimately we'll look at
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and what we should be doing
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start practice groups. I hope
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the Urban Library Council level
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and and the research libraries
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Literacy that crosses all the
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to talk a little bit about the
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happening in our world and I'll
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question and answer session but.

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The United States Congress in
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Senator Reed from Rhode Island.

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Who's been our biggest supporter
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Asked us to form an information
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community and the federal
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and departments to talk about
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government and what the research
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is we're going to concentrate on
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literacy to areas where we think
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play a significant role.

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time, nothing is completely
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bipartisan. We learned a lot
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works in terms of local
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vaccines and masking. We learned
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health authorities at the local
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working with museums, science
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Community groups and civic
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were able to reverse some of
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of the pandemic, which was of
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people, people on the other side
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affected by the by the pandemic.
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during the course of the
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the pandemic in terms of
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of color specifically Hispanics
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year, and according to CDC
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controversies about why that why
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to others David Leonhardt
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that some of that has to do with
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delivered by trusted sources,
especially libraries at the

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local level. I won't say that
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pandemic at the.

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Among libraries some, some
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some did not and that's
cloverland that did a study in

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which it showed that only 27% of
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had successfully participated in
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so I hope that again when we
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point of view of obligation we
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To things like the pandemic, to
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community.

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So we're going to be doing two
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will be involved, and state
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Will be involved. And I would
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interested in the topic to, to
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at the Liberty Science Center in
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bit later in June. Actually, I
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may have it backwards now. Drive
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We're doing one in Providence,
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The 1st and 2nd of June in
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Providence Library which has not
being surprised the Senator Jack

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Reed information comments and
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one in Providence in the
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library so we're happy to be
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June we'll be doing Liberty
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So we hope that we can be a
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literacy in the country. We'll
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and disinformation, but in a
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some other parts of the federal
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local level because of the civic
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particularly libraries and
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The other positive thing that
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this time by the President that
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that I hope will participate, we
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the President reestablished the
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Arts and Humanities.

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Those folks who resigned after a
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about what happened in
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president is President Biden is
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Committee on the Arts and
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the IMS, is housed inside the
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picked by the president, she was
a Smithsonian curator, was

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picked by the president to be
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offices.

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With us and the President talked
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executive order and I hope that
the PCH will will demonstrate

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that and we'll we'll have some
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the executive order. The IRS and
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are slightly smaller sisters,
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smaller because of the grants to
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said. And so we're looking
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We're looking forward to having
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celebratory things going on
through the President's

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committee. You'll see that the
president has picked. I think

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actually the first lady had a
lot to do with it is picked the

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other 25 committee members and
let's say Hooray for Hollywood.

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I can't reveal their names to
you, but we we have the names

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and it will be an exciting
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Some people known for their big
smiles and and so we're excited

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about that. And the other thing
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is also a very positive thing.
And we want to engage at the

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state level and we want to
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fact, we want to be the agency
that engages at most with local

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communities and through state
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authorities if we can do that.
And that is America 250

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celebration or commemoration,
investigation and violation of

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the.

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The Declaration of Independence
in our 250 years of history.

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Since then, we're working with
the American Association of

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State and Local History, with
USCIS, the Customs and

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Immigration Service, and the
Constitution Center.

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On on this and the Constitution
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the, the person who's most
influenced our thinking. My

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thinking about this is Daniel
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whom you might know from her
work work on civics. We've

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funded some of her work on
civics and high schools and

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libraries in Massachusetts, but
she wrote she's an African

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American.

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Political philosophy professor.
Her first book was on Plato at

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Harvard. But she's written a
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book that most ought to direct
our work on America 250. And

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it's called our declaration. And
it's about how the word equality

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gives the most important meaning
to the declaration that we can't

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have freedom without equality.
And and her book is I think the

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most important.

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And temporary look at the
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And she also wrote in the
Atlantic about a year and a half

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ago a great essay about why I
love why she loves the

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Constitution. And again it comes
from the point of view of

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working through the importance
of all men are created equal

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from the declaration through the
Constitution and the present day

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America and and how how hard we
all have to work on on being

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better representatives of of at
least the the ideals.

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In those documents.

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So we will be trying to tell
local stories with America 250

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stories that that tie local
history local heroes, local

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events to the meeting of the of
the declaration of the meeting

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of the Constitution. As I say
we're working with USCIS ASL and

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the Constitution Center on this
one of the things and I would

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love to have you all think about
this and and and and help us

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with this that.

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00:30:48.780 --> 00:30:53.430
That we want to do is focus on
the naturalization ceremony.

463
00:30:54.610 --> 00:30:58.816
Naturalization ceremony, where
immigrants take the oath of

464
00:30:58.816 --> 00:31:02.809
citizenship, is increasingly
done in libraries and some

465
00:31:02.809 --> 00:31:07.015
museums. When I was director in
Kansas City, we we sort of

466
00:31:07.015 --> 00:31:11.507
specialized in this. We we had
one event with 120 new citizens

467
00:31:11.507 --> 00:31:16.070
from 70 different countries, one
event, one of taking ceremony.

468
00:31:16.690 --> 00:31:19.746
And of course, it's very moving.
Their families are there.

469
00:31:19.746 --> 00:31:23.010
They've worked hard to do this,
spent money and resources, and

470
00:31:23.010 --> 00:31:26.067
they've taken a test about
American history and government

471
00:31:26.067 --> 00:31:29.382
that most high school graduates,
I think most college graduates

472
00:31:29.382 --> 00:31:30.730
in America, couldn't pass.

473
00:31:31.860 --> 00:31:36.267
But the most important thing
about the the the the oath of

474
00:31:36.267 --> 00:31:40.898
citizenship is that it's not
just an acceptance of the rights

475
00:31:40.898 --> 00:31:45.604
of citizenship, it is also an
acceptance of the obligations of

476
00:31:45.604 --> 00:31:46.800
citizenship and.

477
00:31:47.850 --> 00:31:52.205
In my view that the most
important sentence in the 20th

478
00:31:52.205 --> 00:31:56.716
and 20th century philosophy was
written, I happened to be

479
00:31:56.716 --> 00:32:01.226
reading a book about her last
night by Robert Zaretsky, a

480
00:32:01.226 --> 00:32:05.660
statement by Simone Bile. Simone
Bile was a philosopher.

481
00:32:07.260 --> 00:32:12.017
The defender of workers rights
in France in the 1920s and 30s.

482
00:32:12.017 --> 00:32:15.340
A Jew who became interested in
Catholicism.

483
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.380
Never converted. That's spent a
lot of time in cathedrals.

484
00:32:20.860 --> 00:32:24.703
And Charles de Gaulle asked her
to write the program of the

485
00:32:24.703 --> 00:32:28.675
French resistance for what they
would do if they came back to

486
00:32:28.675 --> 00:32:32.776
power at the end of the war, if
they took it, took it back from

487
00:32:32.776 --> 00:32:36.876
the the Germans. And the first
sentence of what this in English

488
00:32:36.876 --> 00:32:40.720
called her her program, which is
called the need for roots.

489
00:32:42.510 --> 00:32:45.690
The first sentence is obligation
to proceed, right?

490
00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:51.530
I believe that that is a call to
action and a motto of the

491
00:32:51.530 --> 00:32:55.930
fitting librarians in this
country. Our obligations. We've

492
00:32:55.930 --> 00:33:00.629
always felt an obligation to our
Community, obligation to each

493
00:33:00.629 --> 00:33:04.805
other and and I think at our
best, we've always felt an

494
00:33:04.805 --> 00:33:08.460
obligation to some higher power,
whether that's.

495
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:14.675
Reason or nature or God or what
whatever you you think is the

496
00:33:14.675 --> 00:33:19.870
the higher power in your life.
My my view it's all three but.

497
00:33:21.700 --> 00:33:25.973
Our sense of obligation has
always been pretty high, but our

498
00:33:25.973 --> 00:33:30.176
sense of obligation to each
other in the Community is still

499
00:33:30.176 --> 00:33:34.659
the most important thing that we
do. So I thank you all so much

500
00:33:34.659 --> 00:33:38.722
for being a part of our very
beautiful if very trying and

501
00:33:38.722 --> 00:33:42.645
very tough world. Your your
sense of obligation and our

502
00:33:42.645 --> 00:33:46.708
sense of obligation that the I
am less to you is the most

503
00:33:46.708 --> 00:33:49.370
important part of what we do.
Thanks.

504
00:33:55.660 --> 00:33:58.117
I would be happy to take
questions. Jimmy, you want to

505
00:33:58.117 --> 00:33:59.190
ask your question again?

506
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.852
And this is coming from, I
noticed that we got fewer Wi-Fi

507
00:34:08.852 --> 00:34:12.414
hotspot Lending Club grant
requests because of the CF

508
00:34:12.414 --> 00:34:16.307
coming in. So libraries are
we're getting money from other

509
00:34:16.307 --> 00:34:20.529
places. So my question is could
you talk a little bit about the

510
00:34:20.529 --> 00:34:24.883
relationship between IMS and the
FTC and NAIA and what's going on

511
00:34:24.883 --> 00:34:29.040
with the money? This is such a
great softball question. Thank.

512
00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:29.700
Thank you.

513
00:34:31.140 --> 00:34:34.477
So this is a a huge thing to me.
I was the director of the

514
00:34:34.477 --> 00:34:37.928
library in Kansas City and I
still have a problem, you know,

515
00:34:37.928 --> 00:34:41.379
just getting online much less
using the Internet. And Google

516
00:34:41.379 --> 00:34:44.999
Fiber shows up in Kansas City.
So I became an instant expert on

517
00:34:44.999 --> 00:34:48.563
the Internet, right. So I, you
know, and I and I, so we worked

518
00:34:48.563 --> 00:34:52.071
with Google, Google Fiber. When
I went on all kinds of panels

519
00:34:52.071 --> 00:34:55.522
and committees and, you know was
in the White House with the

520
00:34:55.522 --> 00:34:59.029
connect dad and connect home and
all that. We sent one of our

521
00:34:59.029 --> 00:35:00.670
partners to run connect home.

522
00:35:01.110 --> 00:35:05.032
In the government etcetera and
and then I became chair of

523
00:35:05.032 --> 00:35:08.886
Shelby Schools, healthcare,
libraries and broadband, the

524
00:35:08.886 --> 00:35:12.876
leading advocacy organization
etcetera. So you know that's

525
00:35:12.876 --> 00:35:16.934
probably one of the reasons I
got the IMS job and because I

526
00:35:16.934 --> 00:35:20.180
work closely with the Ala on
that etcetera and.

527
00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:23.971
But here's the story of the
federal government, the

528
00:35:23.971 --> 00:35:27.361
Internet, if that various people
are involved in all of this, had

529
00:35:27.361 --> 00:35:30.290
been asked John Windhausen. It
had Shelby, for instance.

530
00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:36.419
Receiver at the DIA, which I
helped. First contribution to

531
00:35:36.419 --> 00:35:39.380
the MDI was from from me in the
library.

532
00:35:40.740 --> 00:35:44.299
We asked any of us how much
money it would take to connect

533
00:35:44.299 --> 00:35:48.220
everybody in the United States.
We would have said a number like

534
00:35:48.220 --> 00:35:51.718
$100 billion. And out of the
last Trump budget, the first

535
00:35:51.718 --> 00:35:55.157
Biden budget, ARPA and the
infrastructure budget, we are

536
00:35:55.157 --> 00:35:57.510
spending $100 billion on the
Internet.

537
00:35:58.180 --> 00:36:01.707
We are not spending it through
the iOS. We are spending it

538
00:36:01.707 --> 00:36:05.294
through the FCC, the NT, IA and
the largest amount of money

539
00:36:05.294 --> 00:36:09.060
through the governors, through
however, each individual state,

540
00:36:09.060 --> 00:36:13.006
that's the infrastructure money,
is going to to spend that money.

541
00:36:13.006 --> 00:36:16.175
And some of you have been
involved in digital equity

542
00:36:16.175 --> 00:36:19.762
plans. I hope all of you are
involved at some point because

543
00:36:19.762 --> 00:36:23.349
that's really the point of
capture for this money. But as I

544
00:36:23.349 --> 00:36:27.056
was saying to Jamie earlier, we
know who will be involved for

545
00:36:27.056 --> 00:36:28.729
sure, who has been involved.

546
00:36:28.850 --> 00:36:32.751
To this point, we know that
AT&T has a lobbyist in every

547
00:36:32.751 --> 00:36:36.844
state, every state. We know that
rural telephone companies have

548
00:36:36.844 --> 00:36:40.810
got lobbyists in most states. I
could go down the list of all

549
00:36:40.810 --> 00:36:44.839
the people who've got lobbyists
and not every state, certainly

550
00:36:44.839 --> 00:36:48.740
not every state library, not
every state library association

551
00:36:48.740 --> 00:36:52.322
has has got a lobbyist. And
frequently this was true in

552
00:36:52.322 --> 00:36:55.904
Missouri when I was a director
in Missouri that the the

553
00:36:55.904 --> 00:36:58.910
lobbyist for the Missouri
Library Association.

554
00:36:58.980 --> 00:37:03.388
Was also working for one of the
World Health on companies and

555
00:37:03.388 --> 00:37:06.020
you can guess what his priority
was.

556
00:37:07.490 --> 00:37:11.761
My point about about this is, is
that we were given all this

557
00:37:11.761 --> 00:37:15.752
money but it's a highly
politicized process and you have

558
00:37:15.752 --> 00:37:20.304
to be involved politically to to
get access to the money or it's

559
00:37:20.304 --> 00:37:24.506
the money at the FCC and the NT,
IA you know they got we're

560
00:37:24.506 --> 00:37:28.777
spending we'll spend maybe $10
billion of our budget will be

561
00:37:28.777 --> 00:37:33.399
spent related to, to the digital
divide over the next year, maybe

562
00:37:33.399 --> 00:37:35.850
a little more maybe a little
less.

563
00:37:37.230 --> 00:37:41.554
The the NT I got $3 billion,
ultimately $10 billion, and I

564
00:37:41.554 --> 00:37:44.120
think the FCC's got gobs of
money.

565
00:37:45.630 --> 00:37:49.790
And and as I said to Jamie and I
will deny I said this, if you

566
00:37:49.790 --> 00:37:53.687
take it out of this room, any
federal agency that's run by

567
00:37:53.687 --> 00:37:57.980
lawyers, the FCC and the NT, IA
will have an application process

568
00:37:57.980 --> 00:38:02.140
that nobody can navigate without
a consultant. And I'm serious

569
00:38:02.140 --> 00:38:06.037
about this when I write my
letter to the President after I

570
00:38:06.037 --> 00:38:10.132
leave the IMS item one if we're
about equity and we should be

571
00:38:10.132 --> 00:38:14.425
about equity, equities my middle
name as a federal bureaucrat if

572
00:38:14.425 --> 00:38:15.679
we're about equity.

573
00:38:15.750 --> 00:38:19.341
We have to make the application
process easier. The applicant, I

574
00:38:19.341 --> 00:38:22.657
tell you, I give the I I spoke
to a Department of Education

575
00:38:22.657 --> 00:38:26.082
seminar on this with about 100
people in the room, and I said

576
00:38:26.082 --> 00:38:29.287
that and I got a standing
ovation. You know, everybody in

577
00:38:29.287 --> 00:38:32.713
the federal government knows
this when you talk to them about

578
00:38:32.713 --> 00:38:36.250
it. But we can't change it. We
can't change it in part because.

579
00:38:36.890 --> 00:38:41.299
Well, lawyers are running
things. I'm sorry that my auntie

580
00:38:41.299 --> 00:38:42.420
elitist moment.

581
00:38:44.850 --> 00:38:49.295
This moment but we do we we have
made some progress on that. I do

582
00:38:49.295 --> 00:38:53.472
want to say this is that we've
spent I've spent time since my

583
00:38:53.472 --> 00:38:57.514
Shelby days and at the end of
the last talking to chair pie

584
00:38:57.514 --> 00:39:01.892
and now Chair Rosenworcel at the
FCC talking to the folks at the

585
00:39:01.892 --> 00:39:06.001
NT IA and they know they have a
problem and you you probably

586
00:39:06.001 --> 00:39:09.976
didn't see but you could have
seen where you paying really

587
00:39:09.976 --> 00:39:13.613
close attention to our press
releases and their press

588
00:39:13.613 --> 00:39:14.219
releases.

589
00:39:14.500 --> 00:39:18.575
That we issued simultaneous
press releases a couple of weeks

590
00:39:18.575 --> 00:39:22.049
ago, the FCC, the MTI and the
IMS talking about the

591
00:39:22.049 --> 00:39:25.924
application process and how
we're going to make it easier

592
00:39:25.924 --> 00:39:29.999
when the E rate process really
gets so that a small library.

593
00:39:30.810 --> 00:39:34.282
Small school district can apply
without a consultant. I'll

594
00:39:34.282 --> 00:39:34.930
believe it.

595
00:39:36.410 --> 00:39:40.067
I don't at the moment believe it
even though we issued the press

596
00:39:40.067 --> 00:39:43.556
release saying this is great
news. We are working on that. We

597
00:39:43.556 --> 00:39:46.819
get it, we absolutely get it.
And on their good days even

598
00:39:46.819 --> 00:39:50.252
though the the the director at
the NAIA and the Chair of the

599
00:39:50.252 --> 00:39:53.684
FCC got it. I think nobody else
in the federal government. I

600
00:39:53.684 --> 00:39:57.060
don't think at the top in the I
talked to Secretary Cardona

601
00:39:57.060 --> 00:40:00.493
about this at the Department of
Education is a great guy. He

602
00:40:00.493 --> 00:40:04.094
wants to do the right thing but
he's got other problems and and

603
00:40:04.094 --> 00:40:06.120
that's the problem with the
larger.

604
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.797
Agencies and departments to the
federal government, they have so

605
00:40:09.797 --> 00:40:13.090
many things they do. This one
seems easy. We write a check, we

606
00:40:13.090 --> 00:40:16.175
put it into a bucket that's
called the digital divide, and

607
00:40:16.175 --> 00:40:19.468
we walk off to the next problem.
And unfortunately after that,

608
00:40:19.468 --> 00:40:22.656
it's the people in charge of the
application process who are

609
00:40:22.656 --> 00:40:24.800
lawyers, and they make it too
difficult.

610
00:40:25.700 --> 00:40:28.739
So we're making progress on
this, but it's not enough

611
00:40:28.739 --> 00:40:31.947
progress. And I will. I'm
serious about writing a letter

612
00:40:31.947 --> 00:40:35.099
to the President about this.
When I when I leave. I was

613
00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:38.420
watching NPR. No. Oh, I was
watching CSPAN. Sorry, but not

614
00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:42.022
last night. But the night before
last and my room up, you know,

615
00:40:42.022 --> 00:40:45.400
not wanting to come downstairs
because I knew would take an

616
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.370
hour and a half from the
elevator.

617
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.958
I was watching CSPAN and they
had the guy who I had never

618
00:40:51.958 --> 00:40:55.120
heard of. I had never heard of
this guy who was in charge of.

619
00:40:55.940 --> 00:40:59.810
Broadband for the federal
government, you know.

620
00:41:02.300 --> 00:41:02.850
I'm sorry.

621
00:41:04.850 --> 00:41:08.256
This is, this is one of those
things, so Alice in Wonderland

622
00:41:08.256 --> 00:41:11.887
once you get inside of this. But
anyway I hope that that answers

623
00:41:11.887 --> 00:41:15.293
your question about that. We, we
still have roughly the same

624
00:41:15.293 --> 00:41:18.756
amount of money in the sense, in
the sense that our, our, our

625
00:41:18.756 --> 00:41:22.051
GSTR grants, estates, budgets
actually gotten a little bit

626
00:41:22.051 --> 00:41:25.570
bigger each year. We probably
tracked until this year at least

627
00:41:25.570 --> 00:41:28.809
above inflation. This year we
we're, we're probably, even

628
00:41:28.809 --> 00:41:32.216
though we had an increase it
probably didn't meet inflation.

629
00:41:32.216 --> 00:41:35.400
But that's true of everything in
the federal government.

630
00:41:36.850 --> 00:41:40.721
And so we still have money
available for the digital divide

631
00:41:40.721 --> 00:41:44.657
from our our point of view,
we're not lowering the amount of

632
00:41:44.657 --> 00:41:48.592
money that's going into LSA
grants that can can make it into

633
00:41:48.592 --> 00:41:52.528
that side, but the really big
money is elsewhere. It's still

634
00:41:52.528 --> 00:41:56.593
going to be difficult. But if
you've got a digital equity plan

635
00:41:56.593 --> 00:42:00.206
in your state which you must
have actually to spend the

636
00:42:00.206 --> 00:42:04.465
money, we need to be involved in
that. That's the, that's the the

637
00:42:04.465 --> 00:42:05.819
biggest gift I think.

638
00:42:06.030 --> 00:42:08.160
To you is be involved at the
state level.

639
00:42:09.810 --> 00:42:10.570
More questions?

640
00:42:12.490 --> 00:42:14.300
As you can tell, I have a few
opinions.

641
00:42:15.980 --> 00:42:16.990
Happy to give it to you.

642
00:42:19.470 --> 00:42:22.940
I'll ask a question while the
rest of you think of your

643
00:42:22.940 --> 00:42:26.906
questions. Presby. Yesterday we
looked at some of the five year

644
00:42:26.906 --> 00:42:30.501
plan intentions across the
states. Emily had rolled those

645
00:42:30.501 --> 00:42:34.219
up for us and one of the big
focus areas was reading, which

646
00:42:34.219 --> 00:42:38.000
we know is something that you
are a champion of and that you

647
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.470
have visions around. And I
wonder if you have words for

648
00:42:41.470 --> 00:42:45.436
this room as everybody embarks
on their new five year plans and

649
00:42:45.436 --> 00:42:47.730
thinks about reading and
importance.

650
00:42:48.520 --> 00:42:51.890
So first of all, from an equity
point of view, you know, as I

651
00:42:51.890 --> 00:42:55.153
mentioned before, virtually
every problem we've got in this

652
00:42:55.153 --> 00:42:58.578
country, including the divides
we have in this country, relate

653
00:42:58.578 --> 00:43:01.568
to reading. Reading is a
foundational skill. You can't

654
00:43:01.568 --> 00:43:04.939
really use the Internet, can't
do the digital things that you

655
00:43:04.939 --> 00:43:08.202
want to do, particularly in
terms of workforce development,

656
00:43:08.202 --> 00:43:11.736
healthcare, education. If you go
up the ladder of education, you

657
00:43:11.736 --> 00:43:15.270
have to be literate, right. And
we know, again, I mean I, I know

658
00:43:15.270 --> 00:43:18.749
this just from my experience in
the Kansas City Public Library.

659
00:43:18.820 --> 00:43:22.375
We had a big homeless
population, the Central Library.

660
00:43:22.375 --> 00:43:26.318
During the day when the shelters
were closed, the place, the

661
00:43:26.318 --> 00:43:30.067
places that that homeless
population in Kansas City went,

662
00:43:30.067 --> 00:43:34.333
there were three places also. By
the way, this the same, the same

663
00:43:34.333 --> 00:43:37.888
thing is true of the group
coming out of the long term

664
00:43:37.888 --> 00:43:41.637
prison population in the state
of Missouri. The long-term

665
00:43:41.637 --> 00:43:44.739
prison population when they come
out go to two.

666
00:43:46.790 --> 00:43:50.879
Facilities in the state, one
that's very close to the Saint

667
00:43:50.879 --> 00:43:55.037
Louis Public Library and one
that's very close to the Kansas

668
00:43:55.037 --> 00:43:59.399
City Public Library on their way
out of prison and the same. So

669
00:43:59.399 --> 00:44:03.693
the same thing is true of the
homeless group and of this group

670
00:44:03.693 --> 00:44:07.987
coming out of long term prison
and that is they they go either

671
00:44:07.987 --> 00:44:12.349
to a day day job operation, Day
labor operation, they go to the

672
00:44:12.349 --> 00:44:16.029
mental health clinic, the state
mental health clinic.

673
00:44:16.820 --> 00:44:20.693
Or they go to the library. The
one place where they're getting

674
00:44:20.693 --> 00:44:23.030
serious positive help is the
library.

675
00:44:24.460 --> 00:44:28.146
And the day labor stuff is,
well, it's it's mostly a joke

676
00:44:28.146 --> 00:44:31.960
there. There's some, there's
some good programs around, but

677
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:32.850
they're small.

678
00:44:34.720 --> 00:44:39.215
And and and and with both of
these populations over 50% / 50%

679
00:44:39.215 --> 00:44:43.203
of these populations are
homeless population in the in

680
00:44:43.203 --> 00:44:47.047
the long term criminal
population are illiterate and

681
00:44:47.047 --> 00:44:51.615
and virtually all of them are
part only partially literate and

682
00:44:51.615 --> 00:44:56.256
and to literacy is a huge factor
in in every problem we have in

683
00:44:56.256 --> 00:45:00.389
this country and it's it's
foundational so it's it's the

684
00:45:00.389 --> 00:45:04.740
most important thing we we can
do and we know from all the.

685
00:45:04.810 --> 00:45:08.605
Research. There's a huge amount
of research about reading.

686
00:45:08.605 --> 00:45:12.272
There's a huge amount of
research about how you learn to

687
00:45:12.272 --> 00:45:16.389
read and and what that research
tells you is 2 things. One, the

688
00:45:16.389 --> 00:45:19.927
informal support. Higher
libraries is hugely important

689
00:45:19.927 --> 00:45:23.915
too. That interactive reading.
You all have probably heard of

690
00:45:23.915 --> 00:45:27.904
the 30 million word gap. Hart
and Risley did this research at

691
00:45:27.904 --> 00:45:32.021
KU just down the road from me at
University of Kansas in in the

692
00:45:32.021 --> 00:45:34.530
90s and and there's been high
quality.

693
00:45:34.820 --> 00:45:38.935
Research on what exactly that
means the 30 million word gap,

694
00:45:38.935 --> 00:45:43.253
it's the quality of the words is
important, not just the volume

695
00:45:43.253 --> 00:45:47.234
of the words. And the quality
comes from interactivity. It

696
00:45:47.234 --> 00:45:50.945
comes from adults reading with
children. And one thing

697
00:45:50.945 --> 00:45:54.926
especially to know children
reading to adults reading back

698
00:45:54.926 --> 00:45:59.379
to adults. And we know that that
pleasure reading has a lot to do

699
00:45:59.379 --> 00:46:03.360
this that when the child, the
first time the child picks a

700
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:04.439
book on her own.

701
00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:09.140
Is a key moment in life. And
that happens. That happens in

702
00:46:09.140 --> 00:46:13.102
libraries. That happens in
libraries. So reading, reading

703
00:46:13.102 --> 00:46:17.475
is deeply important. And we in
the library world have of course

704
00:46:17.475 --> 00:46:21.437
gotten away from that when I
became a member of the Urban

705
00:46:21.437 --> 00:46:23.760
Library Council in 2000 and
2005.

706
00:46:24.910 --> 00:46:28.770
That the UFC had put out a
strategic plan 15 or 20 page

707
00:46:28.770 --> 00:46:33.112
strategic plan. I read it and my
very first post on the on the

708
00:46:33.112 --> 00:46:37.524
Urban Library Council LISTSERV
was. Is anybody else bothered by

709
00:46:37.524 --> 00:46:41.867
the fact that the word reading
does not occur in the strategic

710
00:46:41.867 --> 00:46:45.796
plan of the Urban Library
Council? It was interesting. I

711
00:46:45.796 --> 00:46:50.001
got a lot of, for the first and
only time, a lot of positive

712
00:46:50.001 --> 00:46:51.380
comment on the post.

713
00:46:53.090 --> 00:46:56.811
Urban Library Council and and
since then it's been it's been

714
00:46:56.811 --> 00:47:00.654
important to me I our tagline in
Kansas City was Kansas City a

715
00:47:00.654 --> 00:47:04.498
community making Kansas City a
community of readers and and we

716
00:47:04.498 --> 00:47:08.402
tried to do that in every way we
could I think I think it's the

717
00:47:08.402 --> 00:47:12.123
most important equity thing that
we do is reading and I know

718
00:47:12.123 --> 00:47:15.906
we've we've been asked by the
Community in so many ways to do

719
00:47:15.906 --> 00:47:19.383
so many different things. We're
the Swiss Army knife now

720
00:47:19.383 --> 00:47:22.800
libraries the Swiss Army knife
of the of the community.

721
00:47:22.870 --> 00:47:26.869
Whenever there's a problem we
get involved in it and and and

722
00:47:26.869 --> 00:47:30.737
that's going to continue to be
true. There's no way around

723
00:47:30.737 --> 00:47:34.934
that. But we have to educate the
communities, leadership, civic

724
00:47:34.934 --> 00:47:38.605
leadership to understand that
what youth librarians do,

725
00:47:38.605 --> 00:47:42.736
children's librarians do. The
book is still very important and

726
00:47:42.736 --> 00:47:47.063
all three things having books in
the library, having books in our

727
00:47:47.063 --> 00:47:50.538
branches in particular and
having librarians who can

728
00:47:50.538 --> 00:47:53.030
interact with kids in reading
groups.

729
00:47:53.100 --> 00:47:57.610
Of all kinds is is probably
still the most important thing

730
00:47:57.610 --> 00:48:02.044
we do and we can't defund
libraries or or or take library

731
00:48:02.044 --> 00:48:06.478
resources to other places
without continuing to fund what

732
00:48:06.478 --> 00:48:10.453
we do in reading and maybe
expanding what we do and

733
00:48:10.453 --> 00:48:13.970
reading. So thanks, Terry, for
that softball.

734
00:48:23.110 --> 00:48:27.325
So I understand your tenure at
IMLS will be coming to an end

735
00:48:27.325 --> 00:48:31.680
and I just have to ask what are
your plans post your position.

736
00:48:33.170 --> 00:48:38.660
So #1, it's also possible the
president could extend by term

737
00:48:38.660 --> 00:48:40.550
by a year. Thank you.

738
00:48:42.140 --> 00:48:45.673
You won't because they were
supposed to shift to a museum

739
00:48:45.673 --> 00:48:49.390
person in the next iteration,
and I guarantee you the AM and

740
00:48:49.390 --> 00:48:52.863
the AMD. Those folks are
probably already talking to the

741
00:48:52.863 --> 00:48:56.153
to the President, but not
getting rid of that library

742
00:48:56.153 --> 00:48:56.653
person.

743
00:48:58.810 --> 00:49:04.075
But you know what I might do,
we've been working very closely

744
00:49:04.075 --> 00:49:09.426
on various things that that we
do with some foundations in the

745
00:49:09.426 --> 00:49:14.267
country with the Knight
Foundation for instance. And and

746
00:49:14.267 --> 00:49:18.853
I'm very close to John Palfrey
who runs some McArthur

747
00:49:18.853 --> 00:49:24.373
Foundation received funding from
from the Mellon Foundation over

748
00:49:24.373 --> 00:49:29.130
the years etcetera. I'm hoping
that I can do something.

749
00:49:30.050 --> 00:49:34.706
In, in our world, in the library
world in particular, that has to

750
00:49:34.706 --> 00:49:39.292
do with the question of reading
and equity and we're going to be

751
00:49:39.292 --> 00:49:43.949
doing a convening at the towards
the end of the year with the New

752
00:49:43.949 --> 00:49:46.560
York Public Library on this
subject.

753
00:49:47.820 --> 00:49:52.479
How we reach across the various
divides and and help build a

754
00:49:52.479 --> 00:49:56.757
more literate, more equally
literate equitably literate

755
00:49:56.757 --> 00:50:01.570
population and and I I hope I
can convince some foundations to

756
00:50:01.570 --> 00:50:06.536
help us in doing that and play a
role continue to play a role in

757
00:50:06.536 --> 00:50:11.501
this going going forward to that
that's my my plan such as it is

758
00:50:11.501 --> 00:50:14.710
you know or the President could
you know.

759
00:50:15.740 --> 00:50:17.190
Make me Secretary of State.

760
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.777
I'm Michael Goldrich from
Louisiana. And in your opening

761
00:50:24.777 --> 00:50:28.260
comments, you talked about a
culture of obligation.

762
00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:33.676
I'd be interested to hear what
what does that mean to you and

763
00:50:33.676 --> 00:50:38.237
what is the public library's
role in creating the culture of

764
00:50:38.237 --> 00:50:42.574
obligation? So Civic trust is
probably the most important

765
00:50:42.574 --> 00:50:47.211
thing that libraries have. We're
probably, you know, you hear

766
00:50:47.211 --> 00:50:51.847
the, you look at Pew studies of
this or Gallup studies or for

767
00:50:51.847 --> 00:50:56.109
whatever the military. You know,
basically the only only

768
00:50:56.109 --> 00:50:59.400
positively viewed institution
and in every.

769
00:50:59.790 --> 00:51:03.892
Study Pew studies showed that
libraries are are at the same

770
00:51:03.892 --> 00:51:07.857
level as as the military and
Once Upon a time, police and

771
00:51:07.857 --> 00:51:09.020
fire departments.

772
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.438
And and so and how do we get
that civic trust? Well, I

773
00:51:14.438 --> 00:51:18.377
believe it's because of the view
of population. I mean, I know

774
00:51:18.377 --> 00:51:22.378
this is true. We went out for an
increase in our levy in Kansas

775
00:51:22.378 --> 00:51:26.317
City, got 84% of the vote. And
and you know, we pulled people,

776
00:51:26.317 --> 00:51:30.193
we talked to people, etcetera,
in all parts of our community.

777
00:51:30.193 --> 00:51:33.882
And we were trusted in every
part of the community. And we

778
00:51:33.882 --> 00:51:37.946
were trusted to be nonpartisan,
to be about serving everybody in

779
00:51:37.946 --> 00:51:41.010
the community and and to be
about the community.

780
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.351
And and I I think that's the
view of libraries most places I

781
00:51:46.351 --> 00:51:50.988
think we run some danger in the
current polarized time and if we

782
00:51:50.988 --> 00:51:54.697
don't recognize that we're
serving everybody in the

783
00:51:54.697 --> 00:51:58.906
Community and that includes
people we might not agree with

784
00:51:58.906 --> 00:52:03.329
politically. And and so. So one
of the important things about

785
00:52:03.329 --> 00:52:07.609
that is that we find ways of
including everybody in what we

786
00:52:07.609 --> 00:52:11.389
do. We we must of course and I
think most Americans.

787
00:52:11.470 --> 00:52:15.127
Understand this and and and and
not only accept accept it but

788
00:52:15.127 --> 00:52:18.549
endorse it. That we must of
course focus primarily on the

789
00:52:18.549 --> 00:52:21.970
folks who need the Public
Library who need the the Public

790
00:52:21.970 --> 00:52:25.746
Library the most. And one of the
things we've been trying to do

791
00:52:25.746 --> 00:52:29.403
over the last couple of decades
is get outside of the library

792
00:52:29.403 --> 00:52:33.179
reach out to pull people in to
partner with with with we're the

793
00:52:33.179 --> 00:52:36.954
best partners in the community
in most communities. So reaching

794
00:52:36.954 --> 00:52:40.553
out to those partnerships. So
it's not just you know there's

795
00:52:40.553 --> 00:52:41.320
some concern.

796
00:52:42.420 --> 00:52:45.997
Particularly among local
librarians that even the word

797
00:52:45.997 --> 00:52:49.770
outreach is a colonialist
rhetoric, right. Well if you're

798
00:52:49.770 --> 00:52:53.282
partnering with your your
friends and and and and the

799
00:52:53.282 --> 00:52:56.599
other good folks in the
community and all kinds of

800
00:52:56.599 --> 00:53:00.632
partnerships. So churches as
well as social justice groups as

801
00:53:00.632 --> 00:53:04.340
well as neighborhood groups as
well as civic groups, the

802
00:53:04.340 --> 00:53:08.372
chamber including the Hispanic
Chamber and the Black Chamber,

803
00:53:08.372 --> 00:53:11.430
etcetera, if you're partnering
with everybody.

804
00:53:11.620 --> 00:53:15.818
And that's what libraries do.
Then, then there isn't any elite

805
00:53:15.818 --> 00:53:19.416
telling telling the community
what to do. It's On the

806
00:53:19.416 --> 00:53:23.681
contrary, it's listening to the
community and doing things with

807
00:53:23.681 --> 00:53:27.812
the community as a partner in
the community. So that to me is

808
00:53:27.812 --> 00:53:32.010
is how we engender and keep our,
our civic trust. And it's the

809
00:53:32.010 --> 00:53:36.142
obligation we have to continue
doing that. And and librarians

810
00:53:36.142 --> 00:53:40.340
are really good with the word
obligation. Most most librarians

811
00:53:40.340 --> 00:53:41.540
become librarians.

812
00:53:41.630 --> 00:53:44.493
Because they have some sense of
mission. Mission to the

813
00:53:44.493 --> 00:53:47.510
community and mission to young
people and mission to kids.

814
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.081
They should overcome the the the
prejudices of the world,

815
00:53:52.081 --> 00:53:55.460
whatever, whatever it might be.
We're mission driven group of

816
00:53:55.460 --> 00:53:59.003
people, and we need to keep that
up. But that's the thing that's

817
00:53:59.003 --> 00:54:01.892
core to that is a sense of
obligation and a sense of

818
00:54:01.892 --> 00:54:04.890
obligation that transcends our
own individual beliefs.

819
00:54:11.650 --> 00:54:13.190
Dead silence. Are you asleep
yet?

820
00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:16.530
I can do that. I've done that to
many audiences.

821
00:54:17.780 --> 00:54:19.340
Insomnia's best friend.

822
00:54:26.080 --> 00:54:29.895
You said some really inspiring
words last summer at the

823
00:54:29.895 --> 00:54:34.051
national medal ceremony about
the way that we all serve with

824
00:54:34.051 --> 00:54:38.207
our hearts, and I wonder if you
be willing to say some words

825
00:54:38.207 --> 00:54:39.229
along that way.

826
00:54:40.310 --> 00:54:44.640
So I I'm inspired by what?

827
00:54:46.120 --> 00:54:51.860
Danielle Allen said in her her
essay about the Constitution and

828
00:54:51.860 --> 00:54:56.972
her and her book about the the
declaration where she was

829
00:54:56.972 --> 00:55:02.712
willing to use the word love in
years an African American woman

830
00:55:02.712 --> 00:55:08.094
who undoubtedly has experienced
plenty of the opposite from

831
00:55:08.094 --> 00:55:09.259
other people.

832
00:55:10.770 --> 00:55:15.165
But who genuinely feels devoted
to our country, feels a sense of

833
00:55:15.165 --> 00:55:19.492
patriotism, feels a sense of the
nobility of the ideals that we

834
00:55:19.492 --> 00:55:20.710
were founded upon.

835
00:55:22.260 --> 00:55:27.140
And and and understands that
it's love of country, love of

836
00:55:27.140 --> 00:55:31.938
the ideals of the country
particularly in in this country

837
00:55:31.938 --> 00:55:36.405
where we were founded with
ideals, we weren't founded

838
00:55:36.405 --> 00:55:41.616
because of language or ethnic
group or or whatever we were. We

839
00:55:41.616 --> 00:55:46.497
were founded in with a sense of
love of our country and 13

840
00:55:46.497 --> 00:55:48.399
colonies came together.

841
00:55:50.060 --> 00:55:53.754
And it was predicted that they
couldn't come together because

842
00:55:53.754 --> 00:55:57.449
they they they sensed that they
had a love of the ideals that

843
00:55:57.449 --> 00:55:58.759
they that they shared.

844
00:56:00.390 --> 00:56:06.240
She talks about that. I we this
is sort of a back door to to the

845
00:56:06.240 --> 00:56:11.280
question of of love. But
yesterday we had a conference.

846
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.644
With the White House, it was the
White House who directed White

847
00:56:15.644 --> 00:56:16.144
House has.

848
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.398
Something called United we
stand, which is their their

849
00:56:21.398 --> 00:56:25.410
focus on countering hate crimes
and a particular part of that

850
00:56:25.410 --> 00:56:29.228
which we talked about yesterday
with the White House and a

851
00:56:29.228 --> 00:56:31.169
number of associations groups.

852
00:56:32.740 --> 00:56:33.740
Is anti-Semitism.

853
00:56:35.070 --> 00:56:39.688
So we talked about that, but I
finished, I I rounded up the

854
00:56:39.688 --> 00:56:43.845
conference by by quoting
actually I think I've got it

855
00:56:43.845 --> 00:56:48.002
here somewhere from George
Washington's letter to the

856
00:56:48.002 --> 00:56:52.851
Hebrew Congregation of Newport.
And they had sent him in in in

857
00:56:52.851 --> 00:56:57.547
his first term as president.
They sent him a letter praising

858
00:56:57.547 --> 00:57:01.934
the his activities as as
president and he sent them back

859
00:57:01.934 --> 00:57:04.860
a letter in in which he talked
about.

860
00:57:05.590 --> 00:57:10.660
The country being founded with
an enlarged and liberal policy.

861
00:57:12.080 --> 00:57:14.040
Which included liberty of
conscience.

862
00:57:15.580 --> 00:57:18.510
And you said this is not an
indulgence.

863
00:57:19.790 --> 00:57:24.427
The toleration of Judaism and
the in the Protestant country.

864
00:57:24.427 --> 00:57:29.368
This is not an indulgence on the
part of this country, but it is

865
00:57:29.368 --> 00:57:32.790
a recognition of the inherent
natural right.

866
00:57:33.650 --> 00:57:34.470
Rights part.

867
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:36.030
Then he said.

868
00:57:38.160 --> 00:57:39.660
Any people of goodwill?

869
00:57:40.550 --> 00:57:41.770
And good conscience.

870
00:57:42.610 --> 00:57:43.980
Will be good citizens.

871
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:51.101
I thought that was a lovely
sentiment, and I think it's

872
00:57:51.101 --> 00:57:56.322
because it's it's sentimental
because George Washington

873
00:57:56.322 --> 00:58:01.824
understood the idea of love of
country and understood that

874
00:58:01.824 --> 00:58:06.020
every citizen with good
conscience goodwill.

875
00:58:07.490 --> 00:58:12.017
And respecting the inherent
natural rights of every everyone

876
00:58:12.017 --> 00:58:16.395
else deserves to be a citizen
and and deserves the the the

877
00:58:16.395 --> 00:58:20.997
love and attention of fellow
citizens. So I I I think in some

878
00:58:20.997 --> 00:58:25.524
measure, that's the way the
country was founded. That's what

879
00:58:25.524 --> 00:58:26.860
Daniel Allen sees.

880
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:28.940
And.

881
00:58:32.310 --> 00:58:36.361
No, I look at when when I got to
the library as the director, I

882
00:58:36.361 --> 00:58:39.653
saw so much goodwill, so much
love coming from from

883
00:58:39.653 --> 00:58:43.199
librarians, particularly our
children's librarians, but

884
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:47.187
really all our librarians that
such goodwill towards the, the,

885
00:58:47.187 --> 00:58:51.112
the Community and every person
in the community. You know, we

886
00:58:51.112 --> 00:58:54.911
became a Center for the whole
for the homeless. We became a

887
00:58:54.911 --> 00:58:57.760
Center for these folks coming
out of prison.

888
00:58:58.610 --> 00:58:59.110
Umm.

889
00:59:00.260 --> 00:59:00.810
And.

890
00:59:02.700 --> 00:59:06.459
I remember my first encounter
with a homeless person in the

891
00:59:06.459 --> 00:59:10.219
library is trying to use our
catalog, our computer catalog,

892
00:59:10.219 --> 00:59:10.719
and.

893
00:59:12.130 --> 00:59:15.321
And I helped him. I helped him
out and he was looking for Louis

894
00:59:15.321 --> 00:59:16.020
L'amour books.

895
00:59:16.730 --> 00:59:19.260
Check in with more great name.

896
00:59:20.530 --> 00:59:24.444
And, and I and I had discovered,
I discovered from our librarians

897
00:59:24.444 --> 00:59:27.824
that actually our homeless
population and the population

898
00:59:27.824 --> 00:59:31.264
coming out of prison to the
extent that they were readers

899
00:59:31.264 --> 00:59:34.823
and were reading books, that
they love Westerns. So I asked

900
00:59:34.823 --> 00:59:38.500
him a couple of questions about
it and he said, you know, you

901
00:59:38.500 --> 00:59:41.940
should read Louie Lemoore's
autobiography, he said to me.

902
00:59:42.870 --> 00:59:47.425
And so, good citizen, I did. I
read it. It's called wandering

903
00:59:47.425 --> 00:59:51.833
man and I would recommend it to
everybody in this room is a

904
00:59:51.833 --> 00:59:53.670
great book about reading.

905
00:59:54.450 --> 00:59:59.061
It's a great book about reading
and and I thought you know what

906
00:59:59.061 --> 01:00:03.816
a what a little wake up call for
for me there's this homeless guy

907
01:00:03.816 --> 01:00:08.066
guy coming out of the shelter
who has just given me a book

908
01:00:08.066 --> 01:00:12.461
recommendation that will stay
with me the rest of of my life

909
01:00:12.461 --> 01:00:16.928
and it's really Lemoore book you
know really the love and I I

910
01:00:16.928 --> 01:00:18.729
took that as a sign from.

911
01:00:19.710 --> 01:00:20.330
Above.

912
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:24.450
One more toujour, one more.

913
01:00:36.230 --> 01:00:37.910
Thank you so much, Crosby.

914
01:00:38.870 --> 01:00:42.784
It's our dearest hope that your
term will be extended and we'll

915
01:00:42.784 --> 01:00:46.515
see you again next year. But
what wonderful words to send us

916
01:00:46.515 --> 01:00:50.307
off with in case this is the
last time we get to be with you.

917
01:00:50.307 --> 01:00:51.470
So thank you again.

918
01:00:58.990 --> 01:01:01.440
We're headed now into our long
break.

919
01:01:12.910 --> 01:01:17.728
Well, our break is winding down.
We see a lot of people back in

920
01:01:17.728 --> 01:01:22.020
the physical room and hopefully
in the virtual room too.

921
01:01:24.090 --> 01:01:27.750
I hope you all looks like we got
some more luggage down.

922
01:01:27.750 --> 01:01:31.090
Congrats. Yay elevator working
for us this morning.

923
01:01:32.450 --> 01:01:37.112
We have a this is one of the
marquee topics that we wanted to

924
01:01:37.112 --> 01:01:42.001
train you all on this year since
we took a lot of time last year

925
01:01:42.001 --> 01:01:46.663
to revamp our own site, visit
checklist and we're kicking off

926
01:01:46.663 --> 01:01:51.401
the five year cycle. So this is
a hugely important topic and I

927
01:01:51.401 --> 01:01:56.214
just this is going to give me a
little moment to thank my staff

928
01:01:56.214 --> 01:02:00.877
again. Dennis and Madison in
particular have carried a lot of

929
01:02:00.877 --> 01:02:01.779
the content.

930
01:02:01.870 --> 01:02:05.404
For this conference. And you
know, Madison gathered up all

931
01:02:05.404 --> 01:02:08.818
your ARPA slides and kind of
distilled through them. And

932
01:02:08.818 --> 01:02:12.652
Dennis had been working on the
scenario, planning like a champ.

933
01:02:12.652 --> 01:02:16.246
And we kept leaning on them as
Cindy and Laura were sort of

934
01:02:16.246 --> 01:02:20.140
advocating for the virtual folks
and how we needed to adapt. But

935
01:02:20.140 --> 01:02:23.914
now we're pulling Cindy out from
behind the virtual curtain to

936
01:02:23.914 --> 01:02:26.550
she's no longer the man behind
the curtain.

937
01:02:28.010 --> 01:02:29.620
The great and powerful eyes.

938
01:02:31.080 --> 01:02:35.216
She has jumped right in. Less
than a year in the program now

939
01:02:35.216 --> 01:02:39.352
has come from the church that
all of you sit in at the state

940
01:02:39.352 --> 01:02:43.624
library and it's just hit the
ground running with us. And I am

941
01:02:43.624 --> 01:02:48.032
LS she throughout the conference
planning, like I said, has been

942
01:02:48.032 --> 01:02:52.304
a huge just champion of what we
need to do to make this a good

943
01:02:52.304 --> 01:02:56.034
virtual experience. She went to
not only the Baltimore

944
01:02:56.034 --> 01:03:00.102
Conference last year in this
vein, but then helped with the

945
01:03:00.102 --> 01:03:01.120
SEC conference.

946
01:03:01.210 --> 01:03:04.638
And Austin and has come back
with lots of learnings. And so

947
01:03:04.638 --> 01:03:07.953
hopefully we're, you know,
improving and iterating on our

948
01:03:07.953 --> 01:03:11.496
hybrid experience for this year.
And if we're not, that's OK,

949
01:03:11.496 --> 01:03:15.154
just keep letting us know in the
surveys and we'll keep working

950
01:03:15.154 --> 01:03:18.640
on it. But I'm, I'm so pleased
that all three of our program

951
01:03:18.640 --> 01:03:22.126
officers are getting to present
this session to you. So I'll

952
01:03:22.126 --> 01:03:24.870
call them up to the dais and
we'll get started.

953
01:03:30.160 --> 01:03:33.227
Thank you, Terry. And I
appreciate the Emerald City

954
01:03:33.227 --> 01:03:37.003
Wizard of Oz reference because
we don't have any of them in the

955
01:03:37.003 --> 01:03:37.770
presentation.

956
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:43.893
But with as Terry mentioned with
the start of this new five year

957
01:03:43.893 --> 01:03:48.387
cycle and the return to travel,
we are bringing back site visits

958
01:03:48.387 --> 01:03:52.673
this year and we are thrilled.
These visits for us as program

959
01:03:52.673 --> 01:03:57.167
officers give us an opportunity
to better connect with with you,

960
01:03:57.167 --> 01:04:01.246
our States and see first-hand
the amazing work that you're

961
01:04:01.246 --> 01:04:05.325
doing. So we're we're very
excited to see you in your home

962
01:04:05.325 --> 01:04:05.825
state.

963
01:04:07.780 --> 01:04:12.239
So for this session, we're going
to be going doing an overview of

964
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:16.361
site visits and what you're
prepare and what to expect, what

965
01:04:16.361 --> 01:04:20.550
goes on during the visit, what
goes on after the visit, we'll

966
01:04:20.550 --> 01:04:24.063
have a brief pause for
discussion or from you know,

967
01:04:24.063 --> 01:04:28.455
both from the perspective of new
folks and seasoned folks who've

968
01:04:28.455 --> 01:04:32.509
done these visits before. And
then Dennis will be reviewing

969
01:04:32.509 --> 01:04:36.631
the newly revamped site visit
checklist, which is in the SPR

970
01:04:36.631 --> 01:04:37.780
now we also have.

971
01:04:37.850 --> 01:04:42.115
Um photographs that will be
referencing. We'd like to call

972
01:04:42.115 --> 01:04:46.742
this our our travel log of from
our past visits that Dennis and

973
01:04:46.742 --> 01:04:51.514
I have done pre pandemic more or
less some some post ish. So just

974
01:04:51.514 --> 01:04:55.852
to give you an idea of what it
looks like on the ground but

975
01:04:55.852 --> 01:05:00.190
this this photo here is of the
state library in Augusta ME.

976
01:05:03.460 --> 01:05:08.075
So the purpose of the visit is
for monitoring the LSST program

977
01:05:08.075 --> 01:05:12.837
and it's also an opportunity to
provide any technical assistance

978
01:05:12.837 --> 01:05:17.452
to you or any suggestions that
we have to improve the program.

979
01:05:17.452 --> 01:05:21.481
We do not like calling these
visits audits. We are not

980
01:05:21.481 --> 01:05:25.730
auditors. We are trained
librarians just like many of you

981
01:05:25.730 --> 01:05:30.199
are. And so we like to scope
them as support visits. We want

982
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.349
to see the wonderful things you
are doing.

983
01:05:33.460 --> 01:05:38.054
Both funded by LSA as well as
what makes your programming in

984
01:05:38.054 --> 01:05:42.874
your state uniquely you. So this
is really your time to show us

985
01:05:42.874 --> 01:05:47.393
what you do best and then the
end if if we have suggestions

986
01:05:47.393 --> 01:05:51.761
for how to improve those
programming or or how to improve

987
01:05:51.761 --> 01:05:56.355
following the the guidelines and
the requirements of the LSA

988
01:05:56.355 --> 01:06:00.950
program. We will be tell you
those up front and and they are

989
01:06:00.950 --> 01:06:04.490
recommendations as I mentioned
we love seeing.

990
01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:08.768
Branded projects on the ground,
it gives us way more insight

991
01:06:08.768 --> 01:06:12.769
into how we read the SPR
reporting and it also gives us a

992
01:06:12.769 --> 01:06:17.047
better ideas of how to promote
the work you're doing. It also

993
01:06:17.047 --> 01:06:21.255
allows us to promote other IMS
opportunities. As some of you

994
01:06:21.255 --> 01:06:25.533
know the LST a program is not
the only thing I am LS does. We

995
01:06:25.533 --> 01:06:29.051
also have a whole arm of
discretionary competitive

996
01:06:29.051 --> 01:06:33.260
grants. We want to promote those
give your libraries in your

997
01:06:33.260 --> 01:06:34.640
state opportunities.

998
01:06:34.720 --> 01:06:37.889
To apply for those as well as
you, state libraries can also

999
01:06:37.889 --> 01:06:41.111
apply for those discretionary
programs and also the National

1000
01:06:41.111 --> 01:06:44.386
Medal for Museum and Library
service, which we always want to

1001
01:06:44.386 --> 01:06:47.238
highlight for everyone, which
the finalists were just

1002
01:06:47.238 --> 01:06:49.509
announced yesterday for this
year's medal.

1003
01:06:52.620 --> 01:06:56.136
So what we do to prepare for
your visit? First, we send an

1004
01:06:56.136 --> 01:06:59.533
initial notification that we
plan to come to you in that

1005
01:06:59.533 --> 01:07:03.347
year, and we want to make sure
it works for your schedule where

1006
01:07:03.347 --> 01:07:07.101
we don't want to catch you off
guard. Those of you who will be

1007
01:07:07.101 --> 01:07:10.975
visiting, we we will be visiting
this year have already received

1008
01:07:10.975 --> 01:07:14.729
that notification. Then, once we
know that we're we're both on

1009
01:07:14.729 --> 01:07:18.245
the same page, we'll send
official letters through EMS for

1010
01:07:18.245 --> 01:07:22.060
records purposes and then we'll
start with the actual planning.

1011
01:07:22.450 --> 01:07:26.884
In the meantime what we do we
were we review your SPR reports,

1012
01:07:26.884 --> 01:07:31.108
your five year plans, your
evaluation, as well as any other

1013
01:07:31.108 --> 01:07:35.683
relevant materials that we think
will will better prepare us for

1014
01:07:35.683 --> 01:07:39.977
the visit in your state. This
photo here is of my 2018 visit

1015
01:07:39.977 --> 01:07:44.271
to the Ohio State Library and
specifically this was a a site

1016
01:07:44.271 --> 01:07:48.706
visit to Otterbine University.
They do and and Cindy Boyden in

1017
01:07:48.706 --> 01:07:52.860
her in her previous role as LST
coordinators in the photo.

1018
01:07:53.700 --> 01:07:56.197
They do really great
conservation work at otterbine

1019
01:07:56.197 --> 01:07:57.830
us that was really lovely to
see.

1020
01:08:01.690 --> 01:08:06.277
So what we expect from you, you
will make the schedule which

1021
01:08:06.277 --> 01:08:11.014
includes visiting with staff at
your office at the LSA as well

1022
01:08:11.014 --> 01:08:15.376
as selecting and scheduling
this, the field visits to the

1023
01:08:15.376 --> 01:08:20.188
libraries institutions that you
want us to see you prepared the

1024
01:08:20.188 --> 01:08:24.776
full itinerary and that also may
include driving around your

1025
01:08:24.776 --> 01:08:29.137
program officer. We more often
than not 99.9% of the time

1026
01:08:29.137 --> 01:08:31.920
cannot rent a car. So we we need
to.

1027
01:08:31.990 --> 01:08:35.797
Rely on you for transportation.
We also need you to complete the

1028
01:08:35.797 --> 01:08:39.254
site visit checklist and this
must be completed at least a

1029
01:08:39.254 --> 01:08:42.886
week in advance before we visit
and and Dennis will cover the

1030
01:08:42.886 --> 01:08:46.459
site visit checklist a little
bit later in the presentation.

1031
01:08:46.459 --> 01:08:49.330
And here a dentist want to talk
about the photo.

1032
01:08:54.040 --> 01:08:58.072
This is my site visit to
Alabama. Shout out virtually to

1033
01:08:58.072 --> 01:09:02.529
Kellen for organizing it. This
was in January of 2020, so I Oh

1034
01:09:02.529 --> 01:09:06.420
no, February, I think of 2020.
Right before we weren't

1035
01:09:06.420 --> 01:09:10.170
traveling for a while and I
wanted to point out this

1036
01:09:10.170 --> 01:09:14.556
particular visit. This was the
BB Comer library in Sylacauga,

1037
01:09:14.556 --> 01:09:18.447
AL, and they were one of the
very first national medal

1038
01:09:18.447 --> 01:09:22.480
winners and so I was able to
call and arrange the visit.

1039
01:09:22.550 --> 01:09:26.097
Where I met with the current
director of the library, that's

1040
01:09:26.097 --> 01:09:29.876
to my right in the picture. And
then to my left was the original

1041
01:09:29.876 --> 01:09:33.714
director who was there when they
won the National medal. And they

1042
01:09:33.714 --> 01:09:37.262
did an incredible job of of
hosting me and going through all

1043
01:09:37.262 --> 01:09:40.576
the things that they've done.
And I would say while it's

1044
01:09:40.576 --> 01:09:44.356
definitely more important from a
site visit planning perspective

1045
01:09:44.356 --> 01:09:48.019
to see recent grants or things
that have been funded recently,

1046
01:09:48.019 --> 01:09:51.683
in this case it was BB Comer had
recently received a workforce

1047
01:09:51.683 --> 01:09:52.730
development grant.

1048
01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:56.328
And I can see. But then I also
had a chance to look at some of

1049
01:09:56.328 --> 01:09:59.857
the longitudinal impact because
the program has been around so

1050
01:09:59.857 --> 01:10:03.330
long. It's really exciting when
we're on on site to see like,

1051
01:10:03.330 --> 01:10:06.859
hey, we funded this in 2012 and
now it's kind of exploded into

1052
01:10:06.859 --> 01:10:10.331
this like, you know, community
centric, fully embedded thing.

1053
01:10:10.331 --> 01:10:13.804
So again, just to kind of get
the creative juices flowing, it

1054
01:10:13.804 --> 01:10:17.333
was just really cool to see all
that has happened at the local

1055
01:10:17.333 --> 01:10:20.189
level since they won this award
over 20 years ago.

1056
01:10:23.670 --> 01:10:28.178
So the site visit itself, it
usually lasts 2 to 3 days based

1057
01:10:28.178 --> 01:10:32.760
on the size of your state. We
meet with key personnel at your

1058
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:37.416
SLA, which includes meeting with
the chief or state Librarian,

1059
01:10:37.416 --> 01:10:42.072
your finance folks, any other
staff members you think it would

1060
01:10:42.072 --> 01:10:46.432
be helpful for us to get to
know? And usually at that time

1061
01:10:46.432 --> 01:10:50.719
on site at the SLA, we review
the checklist and so that's

1062
01:10:50.719 --> 01:10:53.380
usually the first day of the
visit.

1063
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.065
Subsequent days are then spent
out in the field visiting

1064
01:10:57.065 --> 01:11:00.312
projects that you would like to
see, but now during the

1065
01:11:00.312 --> 01:11:03.850
pandemic, obviously we had to
put a hold on our site visits.

1066
01:11:05.250 --> 01:11:09.980
During a brief time when people
were vaccinated and everyone was

1067
01:11:09.980 --> 01:11:14.420
excited during the summer, I
think it was summer 2021, I was

1068
01:11:14.420 --> 01:11:18.932
actually able to do a site visit
to the DC Public Library and

1069
01:11:18.932 --> 01:11:19.660
excuse me.

1070
01:11:20.820 --> 01:11:24.864
And it was so much fun and this
is a photo from that visit.

1071
01:11:24.864 --> 01:11:28.840
Thank you Sarah for organizing
that day. You can see we're

1072
01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:32.884
masked up. This is me and Laura
was able to attend the site

1073
01:11:32.884 --> 01:11:37.266
visit with me as well. And this
was us visiting DCPL Fabrication

1074
01:11:37.266 --> 01:11:41.444
lab which they use IMS funds to
fund a 3D printers and really

1075
01:11:41.444 --> 01:11:43.130
other amazing technology.

1076
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:53.639
Alright, So what we need before
the visit is the following. An

1077
01:11:53.639 --> 01:11:58.363
itinerary and list of people
that we will meet. This includes

1078
01:11:58.363 --> 01:12:03.086
title and location and if they
are a sub recipient of the LSA

1079
01:12:03.086 --> 01:12:07.657
funds information on that sub
award for project. We want to

1080
01:12:07.657 --> 01:12:11.771
see a copy of your SLA
organization chart and we also

1081
01:12:11.771 --> 01:12:16.418
see need to see documentation
for your maintenance of effort

1082
01:12:16.418 --> 01:12:17.790
and match funding.

1083
01:12:19.220 --> 01:12:23.363
This photo. So this was my first
post pandemic on site visits at

1084
01:12:23.363 --> 01:12:27.380
Tennessee State Library, which
is extra exciting. And this was

1085
01:12:27.380 --> 01:12:31.396
I was talking with somebody else
earlier about this particular

1086
01:12:31.396 --> 01:12:35.221
situation where we'll talk about
the schedule and how we do

1087
01:12:35.221 --> 01:12:38.982
things a little bit later. But
Tennessee in particular was

1088
01:12:38.982 --> 01:12:42.743
scheduled to for me to have a
visit much earlier. But they

1089
01:12:42.743 --> 01:12:46.823
were about to move into a brand
new wonderful building and they

1090
01:12:46.823 --> 01:12:48.800
said, why don't you wait until.

1091
01:12:48.890 --> 01:12:52.618
We're actually in that renewal
building. We could see it. And

1092
01:12:52.618 --> 01:12:56.407
so that went, it was supposed to
think supposed to be 2020 and

1093
01:12:56.407 --> 01:13:00.256
obviously that didn't happen. So
it got scheduled back to 2021.

1094
01:13:00.256 --> 01:13:03.924
But but all that to say is like
the flexibility with certain

1095
01:13:03.924 --> 01:13:07.713
situations like that, you know,
we'd much rather work with you

1096
01:13:07.713 --> 01:13:11.562
on those kind of situations. And
in this case, in this picture,

1097
01:13:11.562 --> 01:13:14.990
we visited Jennifer took me to
the Stones River Regional

1098
01:13:14.990 --> 01:13:18.117
Library and that was, it was
excellent. It was very

1099
01:13:18.117 --> 01:13:19.140
illuminating and.

1100
01:13:19.360 --> 01:13:22.831
Typically, one of the main
elements of our itineraries,

1101
01:13:22.831 --> 01:13:26.550
especially in a state like
Tennessee that has such a robust

1102
01:13:26.550 --> 01:13:30.455
regional system, is to talk to
certain system heads. It's kind

1103
01:13:30.455 --> 01:13:34.113
of also, it's illuminating to
understand how the funds are

1104
01:13:34.113 --> 01:13:37.956
handled at the regional level by
those systems. And it's also

1105
01:13:37.956 --> 01:13:41.675
kind of efficient because they
represent a big flop in this

1106
01:13:41.675 --> 01:13:45.642
state. So you can kind of hear
from them and understand kind of

1107
01:13:45.642 --> 01:13:49.362
the the nitty gritty. It was a
really great conversation it

1108
01:13:49.362 --> 01:13:49.862
was.

1109
01:13:50.260 --> 01:13:54.777
I remember specifically being
super impressed by how well the

1110
01:13:54.777 --> 01:13:59.440
federal regulations trickle down
to their purchasing and all of

1111
01:13:59.440 --> 01:14:03.740
that process. So yeah, I highly
recommend regional visits.

1112
01:14:06.750 --> 01:14:10.873
So other things that we will
need to see are referenced in

1113
01:14:10.873 --> 01:14:14.996
the site visit checklist and
those include sample policies

1114
01:14:14.996 --> 01:14:19.468
that you have that are required
as part of the program, written

1115
01:14:19.468 --> 01:14:23.591
guidance to subrecipients. If
you do sub awards and if you

1116
01:14:23.591 --> 01:14:27.994
have any other materials that
may be that may be referenced or

1117
01:14:27.994 --> 01:14:32.466
useful or just allow us to get a
better picture of what's going

1118
01:14:32.466 --> 01:14:36.590
on, we'd love to see them
photos, letters from of support.

1119
01:14:36.710 --> 01:14:42.320
From patrons, that sort of
thing. Just to better understand

1120
01:14:42.320 --> 01:14:48.024
how the program works in your
state. This photo here is of a

1121
01:14:48.024 --> 01:14:52.980
assistive technology manual
during my visit in 2019.

1122
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:57.619
Ancient history to North
Carolina. I was able to visit

1123
01:14:57.619 --> 01:15:01.670
the Durham Public Libraries
sensory space or it was the

1124
01:15:01.670 --> 01:15:06.083
beginning of of the sensory
space and this was a really cool

1125
01:15:06.083 --> 01:15:10.858
photo. Not only did I get to see
the the technology manual of how

1126
01:15:10.858 --> 01:15:15.272
how they help staff learn the
materials in the sensory space

1127
01:15:15.272 --> 01:15:19.613
but they also had this really
cool magnifier thing that you

1128
01:15:19.613 --> 01:15:23.520
know you could you could zoom in
on a piece of paper.

1129
01:15:24.050 --> 01:15:24.580
Read it.

1130
01:15:25.650 --> 01:15:28.625
If you didn't have your glasses,
or don't have glasses or just

1131
01:15:28.625 --> 01:15:31.460
need help with the small print,
which we all do these days.

1132
01:15:35.530 --> 01:15:39.738
So when we talk about visits out
in the field, it can, it can be

1133
01:15:39.738 --> 01:15:43.751
for any type of beneficiary,
whether it is a sub recipient of

1134
01:15:43.751 --> 01:15:47.700
your sub grants or a library or
any type of institution that

1135
01:15:47.700 --> 01:15:51.585
benefits from your statewide
program such as databases, for

1136
01:15:51.585 --> 01:15:55.793
example. We'd love to see it. I
said this before, essentially we

1137
01:15:55.793 --> 01:15:59.224
want to see what care
characterizes your program and

1138
01:15:59.224 --> 01:16:02.979
your state. This is your
opportunity to shine and we want

1139
01:16:02.979 --> 01:16:06.540
you to feel prepared. We we
don't want to come at you.

1140
01:16:06.660 --> 01:16:10.993
Us in surprise. So we're we're
here to support you. On the

1141
01:16:10.993 --> 01:16:15.253
visit. You can show us any
organization that you think is

1142
01:16:15.253 --> 01:16:19.512
doing great work. A couple
photos here. On the left was a

1143
01:16:19.512 --> 01:16:24.139
summer 2021 visit to Maryland.
That was a fun visit because it

1144
01:16:24.139 --> 01:16:28.987
was like a hybrid visit where we
did the site visit checklist and

1145
01:16:28.987 --> 01:16:33.761
the administrative stuff through
zoom. But then I also got to do

1146
01:16:33.761 --> 01:16:37.359
a site like on site field
visits, which was fun.

1147
01:16:37.430 --> 01:16:41.895
And that was to Cecil County
Public Library, which I believe

1148
01:16:41.895 --> 01:16:45.994
is a 2015 national medal for
Museum and Library service

1149
01:16:45.994 --> 01:16:50.606
winner. And that's a photo in
front of their bookmobile, which

1150
01:16:50.606 --> 01:16:55.437
was super fun to see. It was. It
was a really great trip, Dennis.

1151
01:16:55.437 --> 01:16:59.903
This is my most recent trip to
Minnesota. Shout out to Tammy

1152
01:16:59.903 --> 01:17:04.368
for doing a wonderful job of
organizing everything, and this

1153
01:17:04.368 --> 01:17:07.149
is a wonderful little group
photo of.

1154
01:17:07.610 --> 01:17:11.735
A, A group of Minnesota State
Library services staff and

1155
01:17:11.735 --> 01:17:15.427
Minitex, which is an
organization based outside in

1156
01:17:15.427 --> 01:17:19.770
the university and they're a
major partner with executing a

1157
01:17:19.770 --> 01:17:23.751
lot of statewide projects for
the state and they're an

1158
01:17:23.751 --> 01:17:27.804
academic institution that
academic kind of like driven.

1159
01:17:27.804 --> 01:17:32.219
But it's one of those things
where when we read in the SPR's

1160
01:17:32.219 --> 01:17:36.707
we see these recipient names,
these organizational names very

1161
01:17:36.707 --> 01:17:38.300
repeatedly we're like.

1162
01:17:38.370 --> 01:17:41.898
Now they're really clearly
clearly significant partners.

1163
01:17:41.898 --> 01:17:45.489
And so we spent a good, a good
hunk of the day just going

1164
01:17:45.489 --> 01:17:49.080
through a number of their
projects and and then you know,

1165
01:17:49.080 --> 01:17:52.857
I think there might be this
assumption at the state level to

1166
01:17:52.857 --> 01:17:56.695
say, oh, well, you know, they
read all kinds of reports about

1167
01:17:56.695 --> 01:18:00.410
statewide databases like you
know, what's the big deal. But

1168
01:18:00.410 --> 01:18:04.248
it's quite the opposite like
the, the more common the project

1169
01:18:04.248 --> 01:18:08.149
is, the more helpful it is to
have like in-depth conversations

1170
01:18:08.149 --> 01:18:09.140
about like what?

1171
01:18:09.300 --> 01:18:12.212
How are you doing it
specifically in your state?

1172
01:18:12.212 --> 01:18:15.482
Because I know that we get
questions from other states

1173
01:18:15.482 --> 01:18:18.930
about, hey, do you know of any
states that are doing like

1174
01:18:18.930 --> 01:18:22.615
consortial purchasing or all
these kinds of random questions?

1175
01:18:22.615 --> 01:18:26.301
And it's like, oh, wait, yeah, I
know, I know that minitex is

1176
01:18:26.301 --> 01:18:29.927
doing something with econtent
that's really interesting. And

1177
01:18:29.927 --> 01:18:33.315
and so, yeah, as as Madison
mentioned, the support visit

1178
01:18:33.315 --> 01:18:36.942
component is very applicable
here because it's really like I

1179
01:18:36.942 --> 01:18:40.390
can't get, there's only so much
I can get out of reading.

1180
01:18:40.470 --> 01:18:43.837
Airports and so asking those
kind of an itty gritty questions

1181
01:18:43.837 --> 01:18:47.367
about OK, how do you, how do you
work with the Courier? How many

1182
01:18:47.367 --> 01:18:50.680
stops do you have? It's just
really interesting and they may

1183
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:54.264
not have like a specific goal in
mind. I always say that when I'm

1184
01:18:54.264 --> 01:18:57.523
asking clarifying questions,
like I'm not trying to uncover

1185
01:18:57.523 --> 01:19:00.944
anything, it's just like I have
really, I'm just curious about

1186
01:19:00.944 --> 01:19:03.280
how things work specifically in
the state.

1187
01:19:04.570 --> 01:19:08.705
Great comments. And the photo on
the right is of West Warwick

1188
01:19:08.705 --> 01:19:12.973
Public Library in Rhode Island.
I visited them, it was my first

1189
01:19:12.973 --> 01:19:16.575
real site visit in 2018, and
that's me with the state

1190
01:19:16.575 --> 01:19:20.977
librarian and LST coordinator at
the time with the director. West

1191
01:19:20.977 --> 01:19:25.112
Warwick is a small library sort
of out in a in an area that I

1192
01:19:25.112 --> 01:19:29.247
think could be described as a
food desert. And they just have

1193
01:19:29.247 --> 01:19:33.182
wonderful programs that support
their community across all

1194
01:19:33.182 --> 01:19:35.249
different types of demographic.

1195
01:19:35.770 --> 01:19:38.760
Demographics including.

1196
01:19:40.060 --> 01:19:45.339
I know they did technology and
digital digital literacy classes

1197
01:19:45.339 --> 01:19:50.618
for seniors at the time, a food
security programming and I also

1198
01:19:50.618 --> 01:19:55.733
remember they were really big,
had a really big group for for

1199
01:19:55.733 --> 01:20:00.188
gaming and support for I believe
Dungeons and Dragons

1200
01:20:00.188 --> 01:20:05.137
specifically but but all types
of gaming incidentally after

1201
01:20:05.137 --> 01:20:05.637
this.

1202
01:20:07.170 --> 01:20:10.829
They they've become a national
medal finalist and and just

1203
01:20:10.829 --> 01:20:14.674
yesterday when we announced the
finalists for this year, they

1204
01:20:14.674 --> 01:20:18.520
are included as a finalist. So
congratulations, Rhode Island.

1205
01:20:24.230 --> 01:20:28.349
OK, so after the visit, relax.
Seriously. We know that this is

1206
01:20:28.349 --> 01:20:32.339
stressful, but we want you to
know that you're going to do a

1207
01:20:32.339 --> 01:20:36.262
great job. It's a lot of work
now. After the visit, we will

1208
01:20:36.262 --> 01:20:40.448
send out a letter thanking you
for your work and your time that

1209
01:20:40.448 --> 01:20:43.979
you devote to the visit. That
will also include those

1210
01:20:43.979 --> 01:20:48.230
recommendations that we may have
for you, which will likely also

1211
01:20:48.230 --> 01:20:51.500
talk about before the visit is
over, for example.

1212
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.874
We may suggest that you revise
your subrecipient guidelines to

1213
01:20:55.874 --> 01:21:00.081
include acknowledging IMS and
outreach materials or something

1214
01:21:00.081 --> 01:21:03.541
of that ilk. We also appreciate
responses to these

1215
01:21:03.541 --> 01:21:07.477
recommendations and may follow
up with you for additional

1216
01:21:07.477 --> 01:21:11.548
information or request more
information on a project we saw

1217
01:21:11.548 --> 01:21:15.144
that we may want to highlight.
We also work with our

1218
01:21:15.144 --> 01:21:19.486
communications team very often
and they ask us often about what

1219
01:21:19.486 --> 01:21:21.590
type of things can be featured.

1220
01:21:21.660 --> 01:21:25.007
Getting our promotional
materials such as tweets, blog

1221
01:21:25.007 --> 01:21:28.902
posts, that kind of thing. And
so we always want to keep an eye

1222
01:21:28.902 --> 01:21:32.554
out for things that we can
feature on a national level. And

1223
01:21:32.554 --> 01:21:36.327
in the past we have done a site
visit blog posts highlighting

1224
01:21:36.327 --> 01:21:37.910
visits to specific places.

1225
01:21:39.020 --> 01:21:41.795
Now I'm going to pass it on to
Cindy, who's going to talk about

1226
01:21:41.795 --> 01:21:42.880
our visits for this year.

1227
01:21:53.040 --> 01:21:53.750
If I can do this.

1228
01:21:55.690 --> 01:21:59.842
OK, great. So upcoming site
visits, this is going to be

1229
01:21:59.842 --> 01:22:04.439
where I try to recall all my
geography lessons from member of

1230
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:08.962
the state monikers. Dennis will
be going to Idaho, New York,

1231
01:22:08.962 --> 01:22:12.891
Missouri, Montana and New
Jersey. I will be going to

1232
01:22:12.891 --> 01:22:17.266
Georgia, Florida, Kentucky,
North Dakota and I get to come

1233
01:22:17.266 --> 01:22:21.641
back here in September and
Madison will be going to Puerto

1234
01:22:21.641 --> 01:22:25.200
Rico, Rhode Island, Ohio, which
I'm jealous of.

1235
01:22:25.630 --> 01:22:29.545
And the US Virgin Islands, these
site visits will be happening

1236
01:22:29.545 --> 01:22:33.398
between the months of April and
September. Ish. We try to get

1237
01:22:33.398 --> 01:22:37.313
them during those months based
on weather and our workload and

1238
01:22:37.313 --> 01:22:40.670
hopefully that works out best
for all of you as well.

1239
01:22:42.460 --> 01:22:45.930
And for next year, this is what
we've slated. We have not

1240
01:22:45.930 --> 01:22:49.820
reached out about this. This is
this is just what we're thinking

1241
01:22:49.820 --> 01:22:53.231
about. So nobody panic. You
don't, you haven't seen this

1242
01:22:53.231 --> 01:22:57.121
before, but we're thinking that,
Dennis, that tennis is going to

1243
01:22:57.121 --> 01:23:00.472
Arkansas and Wisconsin,
Mississippi, Delaware and Iowa.

1244
01:23:00.472 --> 01:23:04.242
And I will be going to Colorado,
Kansas, South Carolina, Wendy

1245
01:23:04.242 --> 01:23:07.772
Copeland, I'm coming to you.
Vermont and Massachusetts and

1246
01:23:07.772 --> 01:23:11.303
Madison will have the Pacific
workshop. She'll be going to

1247
01:23:11.303 --> 01:23:12.680
Hawaii, North Carolina.

1248
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.691
And maybe those are some pretty
great places. My friends just

1249
01:23:15.691 --> 01:23:18.150
got a great profit. We all had a
great performance.

1250
01:23:21.540 --> 01:23:24.588
So we can start to be
competitive with our state

1251
01:23:24.588 --> 01:23:26.330
portfolios anytime you want.

1252
01:23:28.300 --> 01:23:32.702
Yeah, we do. It's pretty funny.
At this point. We're going to

1253
01:23:32.702 --> 01:23:37.175
have you folks do some work at
your tables and online as well.

1254
01:23:37.175 --> 01:23:41.720
We would like to generate some
conversations amongst yourselves

1255
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:46.406
to start thinking about the site
visits and we want to pose these

1256
01:23:46.406 --> 01:23:50.383
questions to you for the
veterans, for those of you who

1257
01:23:50.383 --> 01:23:54.856
have been through the site visit
before, you know, what do you

1258
01:23:54.856 --> 01:23:58.832
wish you would have done
differently from your previous

1259
01:23:58.832 --> 01:23:59.332
visits?

1260
01:24:00.270 --> 01:24:03.804
What were your highlights, you
know, what was your experience

1261
01:24:03.804 --> 01:24:05.230
completing the checklist?

1262
01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:11.415
Any excuse me, any anticipated
unanticipated delays in the

1263
01:24:11.415 --> 01:24:13.320
process to watch out for?

1264
01:24:13.980 --> 01:24:16.863
And for you first timers, you
know, what are your concerns?

1265
01:24:16.863 --> 01:24:19.699
What are you nervous about?
We're not trying to, we're not

1266
01:24:19.699 --> 01:24:22.775
trying to trip you up. We really
aren't. But I know having gone

1267
01:24:22.775 --> 01:24:24.410
through it once, it is
stressful.

1268
01:24:25.710 --> 01:24:29.046
And then for everybody, we'd
like to know is there something

1269
01:24:29.046 --> 01:24:32.437
that we should know about the
site visit preparation process?

1270
01:24:32.437 --> 01:24:35.555
So if you could take a few
minutes, we're going to start

1271
01:24:35.555 --> 01:24:38.891
with the veterans and have you
folks address those first few

1272
01:24:38.891 --> 01:24:42.282
questions at your tables and
online and then we'll do a share

1273
01:24:42.282 --> 01:24:45.673
out and we'll just go to the
next category. All right, folks,

1274
01:24:45.673 --> 01:24:49.119
take some time to talk amongst
yourselves. Veterans, lend your

1275
01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:50.870
thoughts and experience. Thanks.

1276
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:57.560
Designate a table representative
representative.

1277
01:24:58.370 --> 01:25:03.110
Ohh, we'd like somebody to come
on up to the microphones and

1278
01:25:03.110 --> 01:25:07.772
share your thoughts on the
Debbie Hall is our first veteran

1279
01:25:07.772 --> 01:25:08.549
volunteer.

1280
01:25:09.280 --> 01:25:12.410
As she should be. Debbie Hall.
What you got, my friend?

1281
01:25:13.950 --> 01:25:18.952
OK, I am a veteran. Next year,
if this is true and Dennis

1282
01:25:18.952 --> 01:25:22.920
comes, it will be on my fifth
site visit. So.

1283
01:25:24.210 --> 01:25:26.180
We we've learned a lot.

1284
01:25:28.020 --> 01:25:32.238
As as a state that does not do
sub awards. The first site

1285
01:25:32.238 --> 01:25:36.674
visits were awkward because we
knew they'd like to go out in

1286
01:25:36.674 --> 01:25:41.110
the field and we thought, well,
we'll just take them to some

1287
01:25:41.110 --> 01:25:45.910
libraries who use our databases,
who uses summer reading program,

1288
01:25:45.910 --> 01:25:50.273
who are friends to the state
library and don't hate us, you

1289
01:25:50.273 --> 01:25:54.419
know, and so that the problem
was that everybody came in

1290
01:25:54.419 --> 01:25:57.909
August and Arkansas and Terry
Brown started it.

1291
01:25:58.070 --> 01:26:00.100
And she came in our highest.

1292
01:26:00.890 --> 01:26:05.564
Temperature was 110. And then
when Timothy came five years

1293
01:26:05.564 --> 01:26:10.159
later in August, I think we hit
115 and we were going out

1294
01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:15.150
visiting these libraries that we
didn't need to go to. So here

1295
01:26:15.150 --> 01:26:16.180
comes Dennis.

1296
01:26:17.770 --> 01:26:22.193
And so I started thinking
outside the box and I said, you

1297
01:26:22.193 --> 01:26:26.922
know, we have a Youth Services
workshop every March and it is

1298
01:26:26.922 --> 01:26:31.193
one of our best attended
workshops that we do. And it's

1299
01:26:31.193 --> 01:26:35.770
open to public librarians and
school librarians and it's to

1300
01:26:35.770 --> 01:26:40.346
start off the summer reading
program and there are breakout

1301
01:26:40.346 --> 01:26:45.227
sessions. And so I said, Dennis,
can you come in March and come

1302
01:26:45.227 --> 01:26:48.660
to our workshop? And he was able
to do that.

1303
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:52.706
And I think that was the first
time anybody actually asked

1304
01:26:52.706 --> 01:26:56.812
somebody to actually come, you
know, a different time. And he

1305
01:26:56.812 --> 01:27:00.784
was able to get there on a
Wednesday, the workshop was on a

1306
01:27:00.784 --> 01:27:04.956
Friday. And we have a managers
meeting for all of our managers

1307
01:27:04.956 --> 01:27:09.194
at the state library and most of
them are project directors. So

1308
01:27:09.194 --> 01:27:13.233
he was able to attend that. So
that's one of the main things

1309
01:27:13.233 --> 01:27:17.206
that I think and for all you
newbies, just have fun with it

1310
01:27:17.206 --> 01:27:19.589
and think of things that you
enjoy.

1311
01:27:19.710 --> 01:27:23.070
And that you really like about
what your libraries are doing,

1312
01:27:23.070 --> 01:27:26.376
or what you're doing at your
state library and have fun with

1313
01:27:26.376 --> 01:27:27.460
it, you know, after.

1314
01:27:28.200 --> 01:27:31.843
How many site visits I've
learned to relax about it. As

1315
01:27:31.843 --> 01:27:36.137
far as the documentation we do a
three ring binder and we get all

1316
01:27:36.137 --> 01:27:40.171
of our documentation. We work
with our fiscal officer. I have

1317
01:27:40.171 --> 01:27:43.880
done you know the project, the
guidelines for all of our

1318
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.978
project directors that I update
for every five year plan, make

1319
01:27:47.978 --> 01:27:52.012
sure and have that ready. But it
it's it's it's nothing to be

1320
01:27:52.012 --> 01:27:54.289
fearful about way back in the
day.

1321
01:27:55.550 --> 01:27:56.670
When there was a different.

1322
01:27:57.630 --> 01:28:02.319
Vibe about IMLS, it was it was a
fearful. And I I got that from

1323
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:06.788
our state librarian at the time
and it says well don't don't

1324
01:28:06.788 --> 01:28:11.258
tell them that don't don't talk
to them you know well well I

1325
01:28:11.258 --> 01:28:15.654
need to know this. Don't call
them you know and it's like I

1326
01:28:15.654 --> 01:28:20.416
don't understand that. So enjoy
it. I seriously enjoy it. A show

1327
01:28:20.416 --> 01:28:20.916
off.

1328
01:28:21.630 --> 01:28:24.738
Your libraries show off. Your
state library show off your

1329
01:28:24.738 --> 01:28:27.740
projects. That's what it's all
about. Just showing off.

1330
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:30.110
Thanks so much, Debbie.

1331
01:28:33.100 --> 01:28:36.572
Yeah, go ahead. I just want to
piggyback on what she said. If

1332
01:28:36.572 --> 01:28:39.988
if we suggest a time to come to
you and there is an event or

1333
01:28:39.988 --> 01:28:43.181
something going on that you
would really like us to see,

1334
01:28:43.181 --> 01:28:46.765
suggest that time. We would love
to, we would love to switch it

1335
01:28:46.765 --> 01:28:49.230
up and and come when it works
best for you.

1336
01:28:51.570 --> 01:28:53.160
Or when it's not 110 degrees.

1337
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:59.979
I don't. I don't think it was
110 degrees. It was Minnesota in

1338
01:28:59.979 --> 01:29:04.428
September, so I'm not really a
veteran. But I have been through

1339
01:29:04.428 --> 01:29:08.460
this process once and I've been
through it without an LSA

1340
01:29:08.460 --> 01:29:12.909
coordinator, so I did all of it.
As far as the checklist, which

1341
01:29:12.909 --> 01:29:16.941
really is not that bad. It's
just putting your ducks in a

1342
01:29:16.941 --> 01:29:20.695
row. I did, even though I
interacted with Dennis many

1343
01:29:20.695 --> 01:29:24.310
times before the site visit, I
did still like read.

1344
01:29:25.700 --> 01:29:26.360
Yeah.

1345
01:29:27.930 --> 01:29:34.430
And and then my organization did
as well and so, so yeah.

1346
01:29:35.930 --> 01:29:39.828
We were all pleasantly surprised
that, well, no, I wasn't

1347
01:29:39.828 --> 01:29:43.457
surprised. I kind of knew this
already. But Dennis is

1348
01:29:43.457 --> 01:29:47.691
practically a perfect person in
every single way. And like our

1349
01:29:47.691 --> 01:29:51.320
our tiny SLS staff or state
library services staff of

1350
01:29:51.320 --> 01:29:52.060
introverts.

1351
01:29:53.810 --> 01:29:57.679
And here comes Dennis, and we're
in a car together for seven

1352
01:29:57.679 --> 01:30:01.803
hours going around the state. It
was wonderful. And I, I really,

1353
01:30:01.803 --> 01:30:05.736
I just want to give a shout out
and tell you, yeah, just show

1354
01:30:05.736 --> 01:30:09.479
off, relax and give a shout out
to Dennis because he is so

1355
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:13.603
knowledgeable. Just sitting down
blindly in front of minitex. He

1356
01:30:13.603 --> 01:30:17.346
was able to relate and talk
about programmatic things with

1357
01:30:17.346 --> 01:30:21.088
an organization that he had
never met. And so really just,

1358
01:30:21.088 --> 01:30:23.689
and I have that sense also from
Madison.

1359
01:30:24.290 --> 01:30:29.465
Cindy the the being able to like
you know cross the waters and so

1360
01:30:29.465 --> 01:30:34.170
knowledgeable. So don't don't
worry about having to I I was

1361
01:30:34.170 --> 01:30:39.188
going to put together note cards
about each of our grantees but

1362
01:30:39.188 --> 01:30:44.128
then Dennis was so friendly and
so knowledgeable that I didn't

1363
01:30:44.128 --> 01:30:49.303
have to do that. So anyway, just
I'm looking forward to it again.

1364
01:30:49.303 --> 01:30:50.480
Thanks so much.

1365
01:30:52.100 --> 01:30:54.200
Tammy's check is in the mail.
Thank you.

1366
01:30:55.380 --> 01:30:59.892
Sure. Wendy copper. So for us,
my first site visit, I was just

1367
01:30:59.892 --> 01:31:04.260
there like I felt like a month.
It may have been a couple of

1368
01:31:04.260 --> 01:31:08.772
months, and so I've done that
before. That makes me a veteran,

1369
01:31:08.772 --> 01:31:10.420
but I was very new, so.

1370
01:31:11.810 --> 01:31:14.899
What could I have done
differently? One thing was I

1371
01:31:14.899 --> 01:31:18.820
didn't tell people your projects
being highlighted because you're

1372
01:31:18.820 --> 01:31:19.890
doing a great job.

1373
01:31:20.710 --> 01:31:22.260
They thought they were in
trouble.

1374
01:31:23.910 --> 01:31:27.953
And no one told me that. So they
were all super, super nervous.

1375
01:31:27.953 --> 01:31:31.491
And then finally, I'm like
you're not in trouble. We're

1376
01:31:31.491 --> 01:31:35.409
picking you because you're such
a great project. So make sure

1377
01:31:35.409 --> 01:31:39.389
when you say the feds are coming
that you say because you're a

1378
01:31:39.389 --> 01:31:42.801
great project. And that's
something I would have done

1379
01:31:42.801 --> 01:31:43.560
differently.

1380
01:31:45.370 --> 01:31:48.934
And on the there was something
else that was the, oh, the

1381
01:31:48.934 --> 01:31:52.745
highlights of the visit. You
can't do it all like you want to

1382
01:31:52.745 --> 01:31:56.801
do it all. Like you have to pick
and choose, and you want them to

1383
01:31:56.801 --> 01:32:00.550
see every single project that
you have, and you just have to

1384
01:32:00.550 --> 01:32:04.361
pick a few. And sometimes it's
maybe not the project that you

1385
01:32:04.361 --> 01:32:08.294
are most proud of, but it might
be someplace that they've never

1386
01:32:08.294 --> 01:32:11.920
been, especially if someone's
been there before. You don't

1387
01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.670
want to go to that same project
or that same library system.

1388
01:32:15.740 --> 01:32:18.567
You might want to put a
different one in a different

1389
01:32:18.567 --> 01:32:21.981
area. And I mean, it's a lot of
fun, but you need a lot of help

1390
01:32:21.981 --> 01:32:25.288
with it because it might be the
LSD coordinator who's filling

1391
01:32:25.288 --> 01:32:28.489
out the information with the
state librarian. But then when

1392
01:32:28.489 --> 01:32:31.850
it comes to driving them around
and picking them up, you might

1393
01:32:31.850 --> 01:32:35.264
want to have some of your other
staff help you just so they get

1394
01:32:35.264 --> 01:32:38.625
a break from you. Because you're
like, you've been with me for

1395
01:32:38.625 --> 01:32:41.612
how many days in the car? And
then you feel like, Oh my

1396
01:32:41.612 --> 01:32:44.706
goodness, they don't want to
talk to me anymore, but they

1397
01:32:44.706 --> 01:32:45.719
they still do. And.

1398
01:32:45.820 --> 01:32:48.646
I mean, and we had a lot of
people who had volunteered. Oh,

1399
01:32:48.646 --> 01:32:51.426
I want to take them out to
dinner. I want to take them out

1400
01:32:51.426 --> 01:32:54.346
to dinner. I want to. I want to
be the one that's taking them

1401
01:32:54.346 --> 01:32:57.314
and driving them. And because I
got to see them five years ago

1402
01:32:57.314 --> 01:33:00.235
when they came over the next
time or that kind of stuff, too.

1403
01:33:00.235 --> 01:33:03.250
So really just have fun with it
and make sure you have all your

1404
01:33:03.250 --> 01:33:04.240
checklist stuff done.

1405
01:33:05.400 --> 01:33:06.170
Thanks, Wendy.

1406
01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:10.356
And for hang on one second,
Susan, I would also say, and

1407
01:33:10.356 --> 01:33:13.872
this is just me being a little
selfish for those of us who

1408
01:33:13.872 --> 01:33:17.627
fluctuate between extroverted
and introverted, please don't be

1409
01:33:17.627 --> 01:33:20.130
offended if I say I can't come
to dinner.

1410
01:33:21.490 --> 01:33:24.781
I'm done. At the end of the day,
folks, I'm really done. I love

1411
01:33:24.781 --> 01:33:28.073
all of you. I will come to every
single one of your states, but

1412
01:33:28.073 --> 01:33:31.365
I'm not for dinner, so just FYI.
FYI, Susan, I'm going to check

1413
01:33:31.365 --> 01:33:34.451
in on virtual, so hang tight.
One second. Terry, how are we

1414
01:33:34.451 --> 01:33:34.951
doing?

1415
01:33:38.550 --> 01:33:39.650
I knew we would be.

1416
01:33:45.660 --> 01:33:48.199
I think you have to turn the
switch at the bottom. It's a

1417
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:49.250
very tiny little switch.

1418
01:33:50.250 --> 01:33:53.870
Right there we go. Get used to
the virtual sign. All right,

1419
01:33:53.870 --> 01:33:57.491
we've got some great active
virtual participants. Thank you

1420
01:33:57.491 --> 01:34:00.931
to all. And some of the
veterans, in particular. Amy and

1421
01:34:00.931 --> 01:34:04.130
Florida said that her first
visit 20 years ago had a

1422
01:34:04.130 --> 01:34:07.630
highlight at the Deaf Literacy
Center in Pinellas County,

1423
01:34:07.630 --> 01:34:10.950
Florida. Hope it's saying
they're right. Probably not.

1424
01:34:11.740 --> 01:34:15.903
Also just going to see programs
in general a highlight for her.

1425
01:34:15.903 --> 01:34:19.936
And even when they arrange for
Ms. folks to see the Secretary

1426
01:34:19.936 --> 01:34:23.058
of State, the Assistant
Secretary of State, the

1427
01:34:23.058 --> 01:34:26.896
department CEO, all of those
visits are important and help

1428
01:34:26.896 --> 01:34:30.799
elevate the state libraries
work. So another highlight from

1429
01:34:30.799 --> 01:34:31.299
her.

1430
01:34:32.170 --> 01:34:35.854
From Karen and Illinois, she had
years, also many years of site

1431
01:34:35.854 --> 01:34:39.192
visits and some where they had
active sub grants and some

1432
01:34:39.192 --> 01:34:42.474
without. And she said those
years without when they were

1433
01:34:42.474 --> 01:34:45.352
doing more of the statewide
visits, a little more

1434
01:34:45.352 --> 01:34:48.979
challenging. So if you have the
choice, like be sure to go and

1435
01:34:48.979 --> 01:34:52.030
see those active libraries that
are receiving funds.

1436
01:34:53.130 --> 01:34:56.354
Katie and I think Delaware had
done a few site visits but

1437
01:34:56.354 --> 01:34:59.857
peripherally and said it would
have helped her when she got to

1438
01:34:59.857 --> 01:35:03.359
the point where she was filling
out the checklist to have been

1439
01:35:03.359 --> 01:35:06.806
more actively involved. So maybe
think about that if you have

1440
01:35:06.806 --> 01:35:09.920
shadowing opportunities for
other people in your state.

1441
01:35:11.140 --> 01:35:15.485
Jean and Colorado agreed that if
you don't have sub awards, you

1442
01:35:15.485 --> 01:35:19.831
just have to get a little more
creative in your visits. And she

1443
01:35:19.831 --> 01:35:24.042
also gave us a teaser Cindy that
you'll be going to prison on

1444
01:35:24.042 --> 01:35:27.029
your next visit. Will it be the
first time?

1445
01:35:28.930 --> 01:35:31.120
I thought that couldn't get any
more provocative.

1446
01:35:32.630 --> 01:35:36.082
Leave it to me, I'm gonna land
on California, land in

1447
01:35:36.082 --> 01:35:40.237
California said her first visit
was actually the virtual flavor,

1448
01:35:40.237 --> 01:35:44.457
and this was during the pandemic
and she had viewed it as more of

1449
01:35:44.457 --> 01:35:48.421
an audit at that point. So it
created a lot of stress and she

1450
01:35:48.421 --> 01:35:52.193
will bring a different mind
frame to it when she goes into

1451
01:35:52.193 --> 01:35:53.280
it the next time.

1452
01:35:54.020 --> 01:35:57.814
Thanks so much, Terry. Thanks so
much for all the virtual

1453
01:35:57.814 --> 01:36:01.870
thoughts and and shoutouts and
tips and tricks. Susan, I'm so

1454
01:36:01.870 --> 01:36:05.664
sorry. Thanks for waiting.
Appreciate it. No, no, no, no,

1455
01:36:05.664 --> 01:36:06.450
you weren't.

1456
01:36:10.100 --> 01:36:11.270
Oh, it's all yours.

1457
01:36:14.630 --> 01:36:16.760
Just roll with it. OK, there we
go.

1458
01:36:17.890 --> 01:36:22.130
The next person will have to put
it back. I want to speak to the

1459
01:36:22.130 --> 01:36:26.109
checklist. I have to say when I
opened it up, I went totally

1460
01:36:26.109 --> 01:36:29.762
deer in the headlights,
intimidated. But when you start

1461
01:36:29.762 --> 01:36:33.610
working through it, it's not so
bad. And ultimately it was

1462
01:36:33.610 --> 01:36:37.589
helpful for us. And I too have
only been through one, and it

1463
01:36:37.589 --> 01:36:39.090
was the virtual flight.

1464
01:36:40.480 --> 01:36:45.570
Thanks so much, Susan. We're
good at checklist. Please.

1465
01:36:47.410 --> 01:36:49.870
It it is Angel. Thank you.

1466
01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:53.977
So I have been through 21
virtual and one in person. My

1467
01:36:53.977 --> 01:36:57.114
first in person was literally
less than a month after I

1468
01:36:57.114 --> 01:37:00.644
arrived. Likely my supervisor
took the reins, but it's a great

1469
01:37:00.644 --> 01:37:03.782
way to get to know Dennis 13
hours in the car that like

1470
01:37:03.782 --> 01:37:07.199
second week I was there. Highly
recommend it. And that's not

1471
01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:10.393
sarcastic. It was great.
Actually. The great thing about

1472
01:37:10.393 --> 01:37:13.810
it being so new to the job was I
didn't know that this was a

1473
01:37:13.810 --> 01:37:17.116
fairly big deal. I didn't know
what happened that often. I

1474
01:37:17.116 --> 01:37:20.589
didn't know enough to be freaked
out by. It was just like, oh

1475
01:37:20.589 --> 01:37:20.960
cool.

1476
01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:23.212
You get to travel today again.
Wait, you're not paying for our

1477
01:37:23.212 --> 01:37:23.820
food? That sucks.

1478
01:37:26.210 --> 01:37:28.683
That's what I remember, is going
to that cafe and going we're

1479
01:37:28.683 --> 01:37:30.080
going to choose somewhere
cheaper.

1480
01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:34.557
What I wanted to say well, I
just wanted to piggyback on the

1481
01:37:34.557 --> 01:37:37.604
if you have subgrants, I love
the advice, make sure they know

1482
01:37:37.604 --> 01:37:40.504
that you're coming for good
reasons, but if you hype it up

1483
01:37:40.504 --> 01:37:42.961
to them, they will be so
excited. They will be so

1484
01:37:42.961 --> 01:37:45.861
excited. I have yet to have a
library that I've approached

1485
01:37:45.861 --> 01:37:49.006
because before we went virtual,
I started chatting with some in

1486
01:37:49.006 --> 01:37:52.004
anticipation of your saying,
hey, if we end up going to your

1487
01:37:52.004 --> 01:37:54.855
neck of the woods, would you be
interested? And they were

1488
01:37:54.855 --> 01:37:58.000
ecstatic when I said, you know,
like, we were just so impressed

1489
01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:00.949
with what you wanted to do and
we wanted to show you off to

1490
01:38:00.949 --> 01:38:01.490
Washington.

1491
01:38:01.910 --> 01:38:05.302
I did not have a single person
who thought that was a a

1492
01:38:05.302 --> 01:38:08.695
imposition. The other thing I
wanted to mention for the

1493
01:38:08.695 --> 01:38:11.240
virtual one, which I'm sorry, it
was not.

1494
01:38:12.710 --> 01:38:17.270
It's a completely different vibe
happened during cars. It was not

1495
01:38:17.270 --> 01:38:20.380
a great. The checklist is very
doable, just.

1496
01:38:21.120 --> 01:38:24.395
Because you're going to have to
share it with other people in

1497
01:38:24.395 --> 01:38:27.407
your library. Be sure to be
aware of the strengths, like

1498
01:38:27.407 --> 01:38:30.419
crew procrastinates and who's
going to take 19 follow up

1499
01:38:30.419 --> 01:38:33.695
emails and who is going to take
a knock on the door and who's

1500
01:38:33.695 --> 01:38:37.129
going to like run down the hall
every time you approach them and

1501
01:38:37.129 --> 01:38:40.247
say hey follow up question.
Because at some point you have

1502
01:38:40.247 --> 01:38:43.628
to hand over some of the reins
to other people. And for me that

1503
01:38:43.628 --> 01:38:47.115
was the hardest part, was making
sure that everybody has slightly

1504
01:38:47.115 --> 01:38:50.286
different approaches. I had
someone who had it to me like 2

1505
01:38:50.286 --> 01:38:51.660
seconds after I asked for.

1506
01:38:51.730 --> 01:38:54.984
Something loved her to pieces
and someone else who was much

1507
01:38:54.984 --> 01:38:58.238
more time intensive follow-up.
So just I would read through

1508
01:38:58.238 --> 01:39:01.601
that checklist right away and
make notes of who is who you're

1509
01:39:01.601 --> 01:39:04.530
asking for what and start with
those hard ones first.

1510
01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:06.770
Thanks so much, Angela.

1511
01:39:10.490 --> 01:39:14.487
I want to make one comment just
based things that have come to

1512
01:39:14.487 --> 01:39:18.422
mind from everyone talking, and
we talked about it briefly up

1513
01:39:18.422 --> 01:39:22.292
here and I'm forgetting what
that was. Oh, one thing to look

1514
01:39:22.292 --> 01:39:26.100
at before your visit is any
documentation from the previous

1515
01:39:26.100 --> 01:39:29.590
visit that occurred. So those
could be the letter that

1516
01:39:29.590 --> 01:39:33.334
contains the recommendations
that we may have given you in

1517
01:39:33.334 --> 01:39:37.014
the last visit. And also someone
mentioned looking at the

1518
01:39:37.014 --> 01:39:39.680
previous itinerary, seeing what
they did.

1519
01:39:39.750 --> 01:39:43.544
You can you if you know, if you
want to take us to the same

1520
01:39:43.544 --> 01:39:47.465
places because they're doing
cool stuff, that's totally fine.

1521
01:39:47.465 --> 01:39:51.070
If you want to mix it up, also
fine. You are. You are in

1522
01:39:51.070 --> 01:39:53.409
control. You are great and
powerful.

1523
01:39:54.940 --> 01:39:59.149
Yeah. And also to, you know,
while maybe some of the first

1524
01:39:59.149 --> 01:40:03.572
timers might want to come up and
while they're thinking about

1525
01:40:03.572 --> 01:40:06.070
what to share or ask to the
group.

1526
01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:12.863
Especially for the states that
are that don't have a lot of

1527
01:40:12.863 --> 01:40:17.681
don't do sub awards and are
wondering what to do you know

1528
01:40:17.681 --> 01:40:22.748
again our primary focus is LTA
funded grants, estates funded

1529
01:40:22.748 --> 01:40:27.898
work of course and obviously
going to local institutions that

1530
01:40:27.898 --> 01:40:32.633
sort of tangentially are
impacted is great and but again

1531
01:40:32.633 --> 01:40:37.285
I think it can't be emphasized
enough how how any local

1532
01:40:37.285 --> 01:40:37.950
library.

1533
01:40:38.020 --> 01:40:41.733
Is that it's so informative to
understand how your state works,

1534
01:40:41.733 --> 01:40:45.272
the culture of the state. You
know those kinds of things are

1535
01:40:45.272 --> 01:40:48.927
directly informed and help us
when we're reading these reports

1536
01:40:48.927 --> 01:40:52.524
because we just, even though it
may not be like hey this this

1537
01:40:52.524 --> 01:40:56.063
library received this sub grant
and here's the tangible item

1538
01:40:56.063 --> 01:40:59.429
that doesn't it's not always an
option for your visit but

1539
01:40:59.429 --> 01:41:02.968
knowing the kind of people that
are in your state, you know,

1540
01:41:02.968 --> 01:41:06.681
there's a lot of times something
that we're, we very much pride

1541
01:41:06.681 --> 01:41:08.480
ourselves on with this program.

1542
01:41:08.570 --> 01:41:12.491
Is we represent we try to
represent as much of the country

1543
01:41:12.491 --> 01:41:16.611
to our agency. You know with
there are several libraries that

1544
01:41:16.611 --> 01:41:20.532
we visited that we say you know
you should really consider

1545
01:41:20.532 --> 01:41:24.520
applying for a national medal
you know and giving them that

1546
01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:28.441
confidence to do it and helping
us represent or I'm a less

1547
01:41:28.441 --> 01:41:32.695
represent as much of the country
as possible and then sometimes

1548
01:41:32.695 --> 01:41:36.682
our discretionary colleagues
will say hey do you we we have

1549
01:41:36.682 --> 01:41:38.609
we are looking for reviewers.

1550
01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:42.746
Do you have any suggestions and
I'm always looking for people

1551
01:41:42.746 --> 01:41:46.812
who aren't necessarily in that
sort of elite, you know highly

1552
01:41:46.812 --> 01:41:51.009
academic well resourced library
kind of perspective, the small,

1553
01:41:51.009 --> 01:41:54.617
the rural, yeah right. And it's
I think that's a great

1554
01:41:54.617 --> 01:41:58.814
perspective but like it's harder
to find those like really like

1555
01:41:58.814 --> 01:42:02.421
gems of people that would be
really great to have this

1556
01:42:02.421 --> 01:42:05.635
opportunity to add their
perspective to a larger

1557
01:42:05.635 --> 01:42:08.980
competitive grant program as a
reviewer. So again.

1558
01:42:09.090 --> 01:42:11.599
So yeah, it's not necessarily
maybe a sub award that I'm

1559
01:42:11.599 --> 01:42:14.152
seeing, but I'm seeing great
people in the state of great

1560
01:42:14.152 --> 01:42:16.309
libraries in the state, which is
just a win win.

1561
01:42:18.730 --> 01:42:22.453
We're going to move on to the
second question. So I'd like you

1562
01:42:22.453 --> 01:42:26.117
to take a couple of minutes and
if you've got first timers at

1563
01:42:26.117 --> 01:42:29.782
your table, great. If you don't,
think back to what that felt

1564
01:42:29.782 --> 01:42:33.269
like or join up with another
table. I'm flexible, you know

1565
01:42:33.269 --> 01:42:36.933
me. What are your concerns or
questions about the site, site,

1566
01:42:36.933 --> 01:42:40.597
visit process? What pain points
are you already feeling? What

1567
01:42:40.597 --> 01:42:44.143
are you getting worked up about
that we're going to try and

1568
01:42:44.143 --> 01:42:47.808
persuade you up. So please talk
amongst yourselves, find some

1569
01:42:47.808 --> 01:42:48.340
new kids.

1570
01:42:49.830 --> 01:42:53.104
And we'll we'll see you in a
couple of minutes. Thanks

1571
01:42:53.104 --> 01:42:53.700
everybody.

1572
01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:56.250
Folks, we're going to wrap it
up.

1573
01:42:58.060 --> 01:43:00.769
Is it OK over there in the
virtual land? I'm getting the

1574
01:43:00.769 --> 01:43:02.290
thumbs up for Miss Laura. Great.

1575
01:43:04.100 --> 01:43:06.560
All right. Who would like to
share some thoughts?

1576
01:43:07.610 --> 01:43:11.215
From the perspective of a first
timer, we got oh, we got people

1577
01:43:11.215 --> 01:43:14.540
coming up already. What are your
Rachel cook in the flesh?

1578
01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:19.410
Oscar winner Rachel Cook.

1579
01:43:20.810 --> 01:43:23.690
Also, I'm not contagious, just
for the record.

1580
01:43:25.240 --> 01:43:28.576
I'm not technically a first
timer, but my first time was

1581
01:43:28.576 --> 01:43:32.439
virtual and yeah, 100% oddity. I
will say that it was very scary,

1582
01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:35.658
very stressful. But my question
is, when I'm doing the

1583
01:43:35.658 --> 01:43:39.346
itinerary, Utah is a big state
and some of my coolest projects

1584
01:43:39.346 --> 01:43:42.916
are like hours away. So how far
can we take? You guys? Like,

1585
01:43:42.916 --> 01:43:44.790
what's a reasonable expectation?

1586
01:43:46.550 --> 01:43:50.462
Well, I'm looking at Missouri
right in front of me and not a

1587
01:43:50.462 --> 01:43:54.695
big state but a lot of things to
see because of how much they sub

1588
01:43:54.695 --> 01:43:58.863
granted. And what they ended up
doing for that trip was I landed

1589
01:43:58.863 --> 01:44:02.775
in Jefferson City and then we
did like a tour of part of the

1590
01:44:02.775 --> 01:44:06.816
state. We stayed overnight in
Springfield and then and then we

1591
01:44:06.816 --> 01:44:10.664
go even further and I left out
of Saint Louis so and that I

1592
01:44:10.664 --> 01:44:14.769
think Montana's planning to do
something similar to coming into

1593
01:44:14.769 --> 01:44:16.179
Helena leaving out of.

1594
01:44:16.790 --> 01:44:20.564
Potentially so that helps a lot.
In Mississippi even did the same

1595
01:44:20.564 --> 01:44:23.995
thing. We stayed because of how
far the trip was. We stayed

1596
01:44:23.995 --> 01:44:27.484
somewhere else overnight. Yeah,
but you know, you don't, you

1597
01:44:27.484 --> 01:44:31.258
don't have to either. But if you
if that's like a really critical

1598
01:44:31.258 --> 01:44:32.859
thing like it's possible to.

1599
01:44:34.170 --> 01:44:37.250
Anywhere, Rachel. I'll follow
you. Anywhere, girl. Yeah. We're

1600
01:44:37.250 --> 01:44:40.184
happy to go anywhere in the
state that you want to take us.

1601
01:44:40.184 --> 01:44:43.362
And if it requires that sort of
extra, you know, like booking of

1602
01:44:43.362 --> 01:44:46.100
flying out of a different
airport or staying in another

1603
01:44:46.100 --> 01:44:49.230
hotel for a night or two. We're
down. We just need to know it a

1604
01:44:49.230 --> 01:44:52.408
little bit more in advance, like
maybe a month out. It would. It

1605
01:44:52.408 --> 01:44:55.000
would help. It would be helpful
for us to know that.

1606
01:44:56.190 --> 01:44:57.180
And just but you.

1607
01:44:59.270 --> 01:45:02.047
We're going to, we're going to
go to Carmen on this side first.

1608
01:45:02.047 --> 01:45:03.740
Hang on one second, Mara. Miss
Carmen.

1609
01:45:06.070 --> 01:45:11.105
I don't generally consider
myself dizzy, no, but, but there

1610
01:45:11.105 --> 01:45:16.140
are times when I really am
thinking I must be. Because when

1611
01:45:16.140 --> 01:45:21.343
I heard about site visit, my
first thought was oh, I hope she

1612
01:45:21.343 --> 01:45:23.190
comes before I retire.

1613
01:45:25.970 --> 01:45:29.760
Why is it sure something you
would think that's pretty crazy.

1614
01:45:32.120 --> 01:45:37.937
Not not knowing what I'm in for,
I don't know, I just kind of go,

1615
01:45:37.937 --> 01:45:43.666
oh, this is going to be so fun.
I walked into my thesis. What do

1616
01:45:43.666 --> 01:45:44.899
you call that?

1617
01:45:46.220 --> 01:45:50.114
Spending my thesis only I didn't
know I was defending my thesis.

1618
01:45:50.114 --> 01:45:53.530
I thought I was just getting
together with my committee.

1619
01:45:54.390 --> 01:45:58.491
And so I sat there and answered
their questions and I just

1620
01:45:58.491 --> 01:46:02.941
thought this was just a lot of
fun and realized afterwards when

1621
01:46:02.941 --> 01:46:06.000
I walked out, oh, I just did my
difference.

1622
01:46:08.060 --> 01:46:08.890
Oh, cool.

1623
01:46:10.900 --> 01:46:12.510
I can't wait to visit with you.

1624
01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.823
I also consider myself somewhat
of an introvert, but I don't

1625
01:46:16.823 --> 01:46:19.230
know, maybe I'm getting to be
more of an extrovert.

1626
01:46:20.670 --> 01:46:25.861
I am looking forward, I really
AM, and I appreciate so much

1627
01:46:25.861 --> 01:46:31.225
what you are sharing because it
does give you an idea of what

1628
01:46:31.225 --> 01:46:34.599
boring North Dakota could
possibly do.

1629
01:46:36.070 --> 01:46:39.550
I'm already excited, Carmen,
don't you worry, I will say

1630
01:46:39.550 --> 01:46:43.030
Mara, one second. I will say on
the interesting with the

1631
01:46:43.030 --> 01:46:46.449
introverted side of things for
those 13 hour car rides.

1632
01:46:47.190 --> 01:46:51.135
Silence is OK. You know, we're
we're librarians, you know? We

1633
01:46:51.135 --> 01:46:55.018
like occasional quiet. It's OK.
You don't have nobody has to

1634
01:46:55.018 --> 01:46:58.900
fill the time. The whole time.
It's all good. It's all good.

1635
01:46:58.900 --> 01:47:02.528
I'm not Dennis, by the way. As
the extrovert. No, as the

1636
01:47:02.528 --> 01:47:06.665
extrovert. Tell me. Please stop.
Please stop. That's fine. Mara,

1637
01:47:06.665 --> 01:47:10.801
please share your thoughts. OK.
So I have a site visit coming up

1638
01:47:10.801 --> 01:47:14.811
in a couple of weeks, and I've
been a fly on the wall for site

1639
01:47:14.811 --> 01:47:17.230
business before, but I've never
been.

1640
01:47:17.300 --> 01:47:21.460
Responsible and I find that I am
getting anxious thinking.

1641
01:47:22.540 --> 01:47:25.632
How many hours a day should I
keep them occupied? How

1642
01:47:25.632 --> 01:47:28.210
micromanaging can I be and get
away with it?

1643
01:47:30.150 --> 01:47:34.144
And then hearing it you, Cindy
say ohh, I need time off. I'm

1644
01:47:34.144 --> 01:47:38.204
thinking would it be OK to like
schedule a whole day but then

1645
01:47:38.204 --> 01:47:42.395
put optional things and send it
to you the week before and then

1646
01:47:42.395 --> 01:47:46.455
you can say yes. No. Yeah. Yeah,
that would be great. Yeah. I

1647
01:47:46.455 --> 01:47:50.253
mean I I definitely am like
again the extroverted person,

1648
01:47:50.253 --> 01:47:54.051
probably more of like a 12 hour
sure, but that's a little

1649
01:47:54.051 --> 01:47:58.242
excessive. And I think, I like,
I think the idea of picking and

1650
01:47:58.242 --> 01:47:59.880
choosing what is what is.

1651
01:47:59.960 --> 01:48:04.322
Possible. It's really good idea.
OK, yeah, thanks. Probably more

1652
01:48:04.322 --> 01:48:06.000
like a 10 1/2 hour to go.

1653
01:48:06.790 --> 01:48:11.047
Everything hello. So Christine
from Hawaii now that I sort of

1654
01:48:11.047 --> 01:48:15.372
know that you might come next
year, but I saw on their Pacific

1655
01:48:15.372 --> 01:48:19.355
workshop and so sorry this is a
question of probably only

1656
01:48:19.355 --> 01:48:22.720
relates to to us but can you
just mention a few?

1657
01:48:24.110 --> 01:48:28.026
So that means about my Pacific
workshop. Just so everyone knows

1658
01:48:28.026 --> 01:48:31.698
a little bit more about what
goes on beyond the grants, the

1659
01:48:31.698 --> 01:48:35.369
States conference. I'm also the
program officer for the six

1660
01:48:35.369 --> 01:48:38.858
Pacific territories and freely
associated states. And so

1661
01:48:38.858 --> 01:48:42.774
instead of of hauling them all
here, I meet with them in Hawaii

1662
01:48:42.774 --> 01:48:46.629
every other year. And we have
our own smaller version of this.

1663
01:48:50.390 --> 01:48:52.260
How come we all can't go there?

1664
01:48:54.360 --> 01:48:59.142
Yeah. Their needs are a little
bit different than what we cover

1665
01:48:59.142 --> 01:49:03.999
in this, in this conference. So
it just works out better I think

1666
01:49:03.999 --> 01:49:08.034
both financially and
strategically with the programs.

1667
01:49:08.034 --> 01:49:12.592
So what we try to do is when we
do the Pacific workshop with

1668
01:49:12.592 --> 01:49:16.926
them, we'll also tack on our
visit to Hawaii and a lot of

1669
01:49:16.926 --> 01:49:21.783
times we'll put you all to work
for the last year we did, we did

1670
01:49:21.783 --> 01:49:24.100
the Pacific workshop last year.

1671
01:49:24.210 --> 01:49:28.613
And while we didn't do a a site
visit to Hawaii officially, for

1672
01:49:28.613 --> 01:49:32.603
that visit I had Stacy, the
state librarian come and do a

1673
01:49:32.603 --> 01:49:36.731
tour of of the library that's in
Honolulu, which was really

1674
01:49:36.731 --> 01:49:40.790
helpful and wonderful and a
great experience for the folks

1675
01:49:40.790 --> 01:49:45.124
in the territories. So yes, we
hope you'll be be a part of the

1676
01:49:45.124 --> 01:49:47.670
Pacific workshop as well. Thank
you.

1677
01:49:49.830 --> 01:49:53.617
Hello, hello. This is my first
site visit and I haven't even

1678
01:49:53.617 --> 01:49:57.466
like peripherally been around
them. So this is super new, but

1679
01:49:57.466 --> 01:50:01.066
I was curious if you could talk
about if there's value in

1680
01:50:01.066 --> 01:50:05.040
seeing, I mean now that we have
our five year plans, we kind of

1681
01:50:05.040 --> 01:50:08.640
have an idea of what changes we
want to make. Would it be

1682
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:12.614
valuable for you to see what we
plan to change so that when you

1683
01:50:12.614 --> 01:50:16.463
come back in the future you can
see what's different and what

1684
01:50:16.463 --> 01:50:16.963
the LSA?

1685
01:50:17.590 --> 01:50:21.020
Or I am the less money has done
to like add value to the

1686
01:50:21.020 --> 01:50:24.210
program. So maybe not
necessarily showing off what's

1687
01:50:24.210 --> 01:50:27.280
shining now, but what we hope to
be shining later.

1688
01:50:29.120 --> 01:50:32.582
No, I think that's a great idea
because it shows you know that

1689
01:50:32.582 --> 01:50:36.155
you're hard at work and you have
a vision for the future and you

1690
01:50:36.155 --> 01:50:39.728
can share that with us however,
however you want to. So that's a

1691
01:50:39.728 --> 01:50:43.246
great idea. I completely agree
and I think there's a section of

1692
01:50:43.246 --> 01:50:46.434
the checklist that's all about
the five year plan. And so

1693
01:50:46.434 --> 01:50:49.952
that's a very tangible way of us
understanding like the context

1694
01:50:49.952 --> 01:50:53.470
behind it or where all of that's
coming from. So I think that's

1695
01:50:53.470 --> 01:50:53.970
great.

1696
01:50:55.390 --> 01:50:58.900
Terry, any thoughts over there
from Abora? Hi, Laura. Any

1697
01:50:58.900 --> 01:51:02.653
thoughts from the virtual folks?
I know they're they're live.

1698
01:51:02.653 --> 01:51:04.530
Yeah, there are a lot of spots.

1699
01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:10.327
Tom, in Florida, I wanted to
know how to determine which sub

1700
01:51:10.327 --> 01:51:14.909
grants get highlighted. Shannon
and Georgia was concerned about

1701
01:51:14.909 --> 01:51:19.277
how to showcase on behalf of
services like demos and there's

1702
01:51:19.277 --> 01:51:24.002
a lot of you know question about
the documentation needed for the

1703
01:51:24.002 --> 01:51:28.370
checklist in general. Karen Egan
also had a great suggestion

1704
01:51:28.370 --> 01:51:32.809
about having a pre meeting for
all staff who will be involved

1705
01:51:32.809 --> 01:51:35.529
in the site visit, just to make
sure.

1706
01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:36.640
Everything's ready.

1707
01:51:37.430 --> 01:51:41.327
And there was a lot of interest
in seeing past itinerary

1708
01:51:41.327 --> 01:51:45.566
samples. Great. Thanks, Laura.
Thanks for all that, all those

1709
01:51:45.566 --> 01:51:49.873
suggestions. And I'm going to
let Madison get away. Thank you.

1710
01:51:49.873 --> 01:51:53.702
If if you can't find a past
itinerary, if you know that

1711
01:51:53.702 --> 01:51:58.010
you've had a complete change in
staff since the last visit, we

1712
01:51:58.010 --> 01:52:02.180
more than likely have those
records. So feel free to ask us.

1713
01:52:02.180 --> 01:52:03.890
We can provide you those.

1714
01:52:05.380 --> 01:52:08.555
And I think Dennis is going to
get more in depth with the

1715
01:52:08.555 --> 01:52:10.690
checklist, those details a
little bit.

1716
01:52:12.500 --> 01:52:16.672
And as far as selecting those
particular projects I would I

1717
01:52:16.672 --> 01:52:21.192
think that would that came from
Shannon directly and I would say

1718
01:52:21.192 --> 01:52:21.692
that.

1719
01:52:23.230 --> 01:52:27.232
Potentially the best course of
action would be to talk to your

1720
01:52:27.232 --> 01:52:31.234
program officer so that the two
of you could work that out and

1721
01:52:31.234 --> 01:52:35.363
come to a conclusion. You know,
bottom line, the three of us are

1722
01:52:35.363 --> 01:52:39.365
so flexible about where we're
going to go, what you want us to

1723
01:52:39.365 --> 01:52:39.865
see.

1724
01:52:40.750 --> 01:52:43.721
I know I'm super new, but I
think I can speak for all of us

1725
01:52:43.721 --> 01:52:46.742
where we just wanted to be the
best experience for everybody

1726
01:52:46.742 --> 01:52:49.120
involved, us viewed them. And so
if that means.

1727
01:52:50.010 --> 01:52:54.227
14 hours in the car or you know,
four days, 3 airports, whatever.

1728
01:52:54.227 --> 01:52:58.125
We're happy to do it. We are
just so fortunate to be able to

1729
01:52:58.125 --> 01:53:01.895
go out into the field and see
your folks with you or is so

1730
01:53:01.895 --> 01:53:05.985
excited about it. So and just to
punctuate and this once again,

1731
01:53:05.985 --> 01:53:09.947
it doesn't have to be like a
whirlwind like multi day, 14 day

1732
01:53:09.947 --> 01:53:13.845
hours a day. No, like, I don't
want to give that impression,

1733
01:53:13.845 --> 01:53:17.232
but like if there's something
that you're just super

1734
01:53:17.232 --> 01:53:20.300
passionate about, if you're
willing to do that.

1735
01:53:20.410 --> 01:53:23.969
That's great. We're willing to
do it too. But it does not have

1736
01:53:23.969 --> 01:53:27.471
to be. You know, all like it's
extravagant and all that. It's

1737
01:53:27.471 --> 01:53:27.980
all good.

1738
01:53:29.490 --> 01:53:34.116
It's Layla hi for preparing
subgrantees for the site visit.

1739
01:53:34.116 --> 01:53:38.896
What types of information are
you looking for beyond just the

1740
01:53:38.896 --> 01:53:42.982
general overview? Are you
interested in seeing their

1741
01:53:42.982 --> 01:53:47.454
administrative processes or is
it more of like seeing the

1742
01:53:47.454 --> 01:53:51.695
project as a whole? That's a
great question. How do we

1743
01:53:51.695 --> 01:53:53.700
prepare the subrecipients?

1744
01:53:54.390 --> 01:53:58.587
I think generally we would just
want to see the project as a

1745
01:53:58.587 --> 01:54:02.991
whole. We don't necessarily need
to see their financial ins and

1746
01:54:02.991 --> 01:54:07.120
outs typically like what you
would provide in an SPR report

1747
01:54:07.120 --> 01:54:08.290
in advance would.

1748
01:54:08.950 --> 01:54:13.089
Typically generally be be what
we would want to see. Sometimes

1749
01:54:13.089 --> 01:54:17.294
the the project has already been
reported on and we can just go

1750
01:54:17.294 --> 01:54:21.237
in the SPR and look at it if
it's not just a brief overview

1751
01:54:21.237 --> 01:54:24.260
where they are in the process of
the project.

1752
01:54:26.590 --> 01:54:30.513
Project directors who will, who
we, who we will be meeting with.

1753
01:54:30.513 --> 01:54:34.497
Yeah, I would agree and you know
correct me if I'm wrong, this is

1754
01:54:34.497 --> 01:54:38.179
my impression the smaller the
grant, the kind of the less we

1755
01:54:38.179 --> 01:54:41.378
would ask those sort of
questions just because we do

1756
01:54:41.378 --> 01:54:44.939
have a grasp from you all every
year about those financial

1757
01:54:44.939 --> 01:54:48.017
transactions and things.
Sometimes it's helpful to

1758
01:54:48.017 --> 01:54:51.518
understand how it works from
their perspective, you know,

1759
01:54:51.518 --> 01:54:55.140
without it coming across like
we're investigating anything.

1760
01:54:55.230 --> 01:54:58.426
But umm, you know, kind of out
of curiosity, but I would say

1761
01:54:58.426 --> 01:55:01.676
maybe some of the maybe if you
have a large statewide partner

1762
01:55:01.676 --> 01:55:04.873
that gets a lot of funds, you
know, that's why I was talking

1763
01:55:04.873 --> 01:55:08.017
to Tennessee example with the
regionals like they were very

1764
01:55:08.017 --> 01:55:11.004
open and very, it was very
illuminating to hear how they

1765
01:55:11.004 --> 01:55:13.625
work with their local
procurements in relation to

1766
01:55:13.625 --> 01:55:16.350
that. So it was just kind of an
organic part of the

1767
01:55:16.350 --> 01:55:19.547
conversation, but it certainly
wouldn't be like a if it's if

1768
01:55:19.547 --> 01:55:22.377
it's a small collection
development grant, I wouldn't

1769
01:55:22.377 --> 01:55:25.260
imagine it being like a primary
topic of conversation.

1770
01:55:25.330 --> 01:55:25.830
Yeah.

1771
01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:30.370
Chris, hello.

1772
01:55:32.790 --> 01:55:37.804
Everyone, can you hear me? OK,
you can move the mic up. There

1773
01:55:37.804 --> 01:55:38.304
we go.

1774
01:55:41.630 --> 01:55:45.289
I just wanted to say that
whoever said Dennis is perfect,

1775
01:55:45.289 --> 01:55:47.750
I need to have an argument about
that.

1776
01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:53.920
I've I've had the fortunate
experience of being on one site

1777
01:55:53.920 --> 01:55:56.640
visit to Mississippi and Dennis
was my.

1778
01:55:58.610 --> 01:56:02.482
Representative to lead me there.
And and he did talk for about 12

1779
01:56:02.482 --> 01:56:03.950
hours straight every day.

1780
01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:09.163
No, but he really, all of our
program officers really know

1781
01:56:09.163 --> 01:56:12.745
your business based on what
you've married, based on what

1782
01:56:12.745 --> 01:56:16.265
you report. They are very good
about coming to me on any

1783
01:56:16.265 --> 01:56:19.600
questions that they have and I
learn a lot from them.

1784
01:56:21.160 --> 01:56:25.880
So as the lead person for
internal controls at the agency

1785
01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:30.518
and with grants estates being
roughly 70% of our program

1786
01:56:30.518 --> 01:56:31.170
funding.

1787
01:56:32.570 --> 01:56:36.763
It's very important that we have
strong internal controls and our

1788
01:56:36.763 --> 01:56:40.576
program officers and Terry
really lead a very strong system

1789
01:56:40.576 --> 01:56:44.515
that we can rely on. We can we
have 17 clean audits in a row.

1790
01:56:44.515 --> 01:56:48.646
Anything grants the states goes
wrong that's going to really put

1791
01:56:48.646 --> 01:56:52.649
that in jeopardy. And I can stay
in my 10 years, eleven years,

1792
01:56:52.649 --> 01:56:56.588
I'm the last. We haven't had
that issue. So keep up that good

1793
01:56:56.588 --> 01:57:00.019
work. The other thing I'll just
say is communication.

1794
01:57:01.340 --> 01:57:04.231
Build relationship with the
program officers. They're not

1795
01:57:04.231 --> 01:57:06.924
looking to get anyone in
trouble, they're looking for

1796
01:57:06.924 --> 01:57:10.065
best practices, they're looking
to understand who's behind the

1797
01:57:10.065 --> 01:57:13.057
reports, and they really know
everything about you based on

1798
01:57:13.057 --> 01:57:15.750
what you like. We provide them
from the CFO's office.

1799
01:57:16.770 --> 01:57:20.423
The reason you do the accrual of
which we're trying to get some

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01:57:20.423 --> 01:57:23.963
insight from analytics, just
some numbers and we provide that

1801
01:57:23.963 --> 01:57:27.332
to them based on what we see
from analytics. Maybe there's

1802
01:57:27.332 --> 01:57:30.986
some slow spending going on by
when asking these questions, but

1803
01:57:30.986 --> 01:57:34.354
it's about communication. So
they do a great job. You do a

1804
01:57:34.354 --> 01:57:37.951
great job based on what I see
from having to go through audits

1805
01:57:37.951 --> 01:57:39.950
every year, keep up the good
work.

1806
01:57:42.040 --> 01:57:46.810
Thanks, Chris. Appreciate it. 01
other thing, Cindy. Dennis had

1807
01:57:46.810 --> 01:57:51.134
me thrown in jail as well. So
we're there with you. Yeah,

1808
01:57:51.134 --> 01:57:52.700
yeah, we have photos.

1809
01:57:54.290 --> 01:57:57.995
That was a cool library. We're
going to move on to the last

1810
01:57:57.995 --> 01:58:01.762
question everybody is there
anything I MLS should know about

1811
01:58:01.762 --> 01:58:05.036
the site visit preparation
process. Let's take a few

1812
01:58:05.036 --> 01:58:08.680
minutes talk talk at your
tables. This is your opportunity

1813
01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:12.323
to you know let let your hair
down. We can take it. We can

1814
01:58:12.323 --> 01:58:15.967
take it. Let the virtual folks
Terry I'll reach out to you

1815
01:58:15.967 --> 01:58:19.982
folks in a couple of minutes as
well. But what would you like us

1816
01:58:19.982 --> 01:58:23.069
to know about the site visit
preparation process.

1817
01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:26.510
We'll see you in a few minutes.

1818
01:58:32.300 --> 01:58:34.670
What should we know?

1819
01:58:36.950 --> 01:58:37.580
Let us have it.

1820
01:58:46.360 --> 01:58:47.700
So they was coming back up.

1821
01:58:48.710 --> 01:58:49.660
Be brave, girl.

1822
01:58:50.930 --> 01:58:55.194
So Dennis is coming to visit in
about a month and the whole

1823
01:58:55.194 --> 01:58:59.459
planning process was really
smooth so far. So I just wanted

1824
01:58:59.459 --> 01:59:03.794
to give positive feedback on
that. Dennis reached out to see

1825
01:59:03.794 --> 01:59:07.988
when would be a good time. So we
were able to consult with

1826
01:59:07.988 --> 01:59:12.182
different staff members and find
a time that was great for

1827
01:59:12.182 --> 01:59:16.731
everybody and also won't be in
the dead of the summer when it's

1828
01:59:16.731 --> 01:59:20.995
really hot. So that was really
great. I think one thing for

1829
01:59:20.995 --> 01:59:21.370
new.

1830
01:59:21.370 --> 01:59:24.880
People that would be helpful is
maybe having just a.

1831
01:59:26.390 --> 01:59:30.918
Mini checklist of what needs to
happen to prepare for the site

1832
01:59:30.918 --> 01:59:35.376
visit. And maybe you have that
and I just just didn't see it.

1833
01:59:35.376 --> 01:59:39.617
But something like the agenda,
the checklist, just all the

1834
01:59:39.617 --> 01:59:43.643
planning that needs to happen
that that would be my one

1835
01:59:43.643 --> 01:59:46.949
hopeful suggestion. Great. Thank
you so much.

1836
01:59:47.670 --> 01:59:49.180
You're not not seeing that.

1837
01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:53.450
Theory.

1838
01:59:58.890 --> 02:00:02.483
We had more quietness on this
question, but just two people,

1839
02:00:02.483 --> 02:00:05.841
Shannon and Georgia, said that
all the documentation and

1840
02:00:05.841 --> 02:00:09.553
training provided by Melissa is
really helpful, including this

1841
02:00:09.553 --> 02:00:13.205
session right here. And I think
owing to the chatter on chat,

1842
02:00:13.205 --> 02:00:16.681
we're all learning from each
other. And then Jeanette from

1843
02:00:16.681 --> 02:00:20.334
Vermont chimed in at the sites.
Been helpful. That's great to

1844
02:00:20.334 --> 02:00:21.099
hear. Thanks.

1845
02:00:26.340 --> 02:00:26.840
Jamie.

1846
02:00:28.830 --> 02:00:30.250
Another solid veteran.

1847
02:00:31.720 --> 02:00:35.490
I just wanted to say that we had
a lot of silence at our table

1848
02:00:35.490 --> 02:00:38.901
about what I am alest could do
differently. I mean, it's

1849
02:00:38.901 --> 02:00:39.401
smooth.

1850
02:00:40.210 --> 02:00:41.930
Lots of prep like this though.

1851
02:00:43.670 --> 02:00:45.720
Thanks, Jamie. Appreciate that.

1852
02:00:51.580 --> 02:00:54.277
OK. Well then I'm going to.
Thanks everybody. I appreciate

1853
02:00:54.277 --> 02:00:56.929
using your brains and your
hearts as always. I'm going to

1854
02:00:56.929 --> 02:00:58.850
pass over the conversation now
to Dennis.

1855
02:01:03.200 --> 02:01:06.582
Thank you, Cindy. That was
really, really informative. I

1856
02:01:06.582 --> 02:01:10.201
really appreciated everybody's
participation in that. So, so

1857
02:01:10.201 --> 02:01:13.999
this part should be brief. It's
more of a technical overview of

1858
02:01:13.999 --> 02:01:17.678
the changes to the site. Visit
checklist. We are very excited

1859
02:01:17.678 --> 02:01:21.238
about the changes that we've
made. There have been a couple

1860
02:01:21.238 --> 02:01:24.857
of pain points with the the
format of the previous checklist

1861
02:01:24.857 --> 02:01:28.358
for a number of reasons. You
know, it was a Adobe Fillable

1862
02:01:28.358 --> 02:01:30.020
PDF and those are blessings.

1863
02:01:30.090 --> 02:01:33.465
And curses, sometimes, you know,
you have to have the right

1864
02:01:33.465 --> 02:01:36.840
reader. Things get weird. And,
and in general, we just were

1865
02:01:36.840 --> 02:01:40.046
like, you know, how can we not
be so married to this PDF

1866
02:01:40.046 --> 02:01:43.196
format? And so we were
brainstorming and we thought, Oh

1867
02:01:43.196 --> 02:01:46.796
well, you know, we're already in
the SPR and filling out fields

1868
02:01:46.796 --> 02:01:50.115
and you have that kind of
mechanism. So what it what if it

1869
02:01:50.115 --> 02:01:53.546
was more web-based? So that's
kind of where that kicked off.

1870
02:01:53.546 --> 02:01:56.808
And then we were like, well, if
we're going to completely

1871
02:01:56.808 --> 02:02:00.408
transform this checklist, let's
look at these questions and see

1872
02:02:00.408 --> 02:02:00.780
like.

1873
02:02:00.780 --> 02:02:04.965
Are these questions valuable?
Can we think about them in a

1874
02:02:04.965 --> 02:02:09.505
different way? And then the ever
evolving question of like, how

1875
02:02:09.505 --> 02:02:13.265
can we make the required
documents be asked of you a

1876
02:02:13.265 --> 02:02:14.400
little bit more?

1877
02:02:15.640 --> 02:02:19.381
Logical and not maybe placed at
the very bottom of the list

1878
02:02:19.381 --> 02:02:22.625
because that can kind of get
weird. So that was the

1879
02:02:22.625 --> 02:02:26.366
inspiration for this process.
And so as I mentioned, it now

1880
02:02:26.366 --> 02:02:29.984
lives in the SPR, which we are
thrilled about. It's not a

1881
02:02:29.984 --> 02:02:33.850
fillable PDF, but I know that on
some of you mentioned in the

1882
02:02:33.850 --> 02:02:37.405
discussions having three
meetings, talking to people who

1883
02:02:37.405 --> 02:02:41.272
don't use the SPR to help fill
it out so it can be saved as a

1884
02:02:41.272 --> 02:02:45.139
PDF just for your records. But
then we also, and I believe we

1885
02:02:45.139 --> 02:02:45.949
sent this to.

1886
02:02:46.040 --> 02:02:49.405
Our states that we're visiting,
there's sort of like a legacy

1887
02:02:49.405 --> 02:02:52.771
copy of the PDF on the grants
states manual for the checklist

1888
02:02:52.771 --> 02:02:56.082
if you need it to be a little
bit more living outside of the

1889
02:02:56.082 --> 02:02:57.060
SPR for reference.

1890
02:02:58.450 --> 02:03:01.436
And I I mentioned all the
requested documentation

1891
02:03:01.436 --> 02:03:05.079
materials can now be uploaded
within the checklist. So a lot

1892
02:03:05.079 --> 02:03:08.423
of you are familiar with
uploading additional materials

1893
02:03:08.423 --> 02:03:11.947
in the SPR, it's that same sort
of function, it's just now

1894
02:03:11.947 --> 02:03:15.769
associated with the section of
questions that the documentation

1895
02:03:15.769 --> 02:03:19.352
relates to. So we're hoping
that's simpler. And I mentioned

1896
02:03:19.352 --> 02:03:23.055
already the reference copy of
all the questions are available

1897
02:03:23.055 --> 02:03:26.758
on the grants to states manual.
So we're trying to marry that

1898
02:03:26.758 --> 02:03:28.609
web-based and kind of document.

1899
02:03:29.370 --> 02:03:30.060
Format of it.

1900
02:03:31.470 --> 02:03:34.579
And so, as the new checklist
format, this is a little bit of

1901
02:03:34.579 --> 02:03:37.689
a snippet of what it looks like
it. For those of you who are

1902
02:03:37.689 --> 02:03:40.900
familiar with the PDF version of
the checklist, it should look

1903
02:03:40.900 --> 02:03:43.653
familiar. The headings are the
same and just the only

1904
02:03:43.653 --> 02:03:46.864
difference now is that they're
kind of expandable, collapsible

1905
02:03:46.864 --> 02:03:49.719
headers. So if you just want to,
again, to make it less

1906
02:03:49.719 --> 02:03:52.981
intimidating, if you just want
to click on general information,

1907
02:03:52.981 --> 02:03:56.244
you'll just see those questions,
you can click them when you're

1908
02:03:56.244 --> 02:03:59.302
done, expand the next one,
etcetera and so forth, you know,

1909
02:03:59.302 --> 02:04:01.240
save frequently and often, of
course.

1910
02:04:01.620 --> 02:04:04.635
As you all know with the SPR
experience and one of the

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02:04:04.635 --> 02:04:08.199
features is now, there's a last
modified date that automatically

1912
02:04:08.199 --> 02:04:11.488
tracks sort of like when you
last updated this. So this can

1913
02:04:11.488 --> 02:04:15.052
potentially be more of a living
document for all of you, instead

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02:04:15.052 --> 02:04:18.342
of it being necessarily this
like let's do this all at once

1915
02:04:18.342 --> 02:04:19.110
in five years.

1916
02:04:20.410 --> 02:04:24.213
And as I mentioned too, even
when you're done completing it,

1917
02:04:24.213 --> 02:04:27.830
you can print it to PDF if you
need a local copy with the

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02:04:27.830 --> 02:04:31.633
answers in it. And I mentioned
already that the checklist is

1919
02:04:31.633 --> 02:04:35.250
divided into the five categories
with expandable headers.

1920
02:04:37.440 --> 02:04:41.250
And I also more detail about how
the additional materials work.

1921
02:04:41.250 --> 02:04:45.001
This is again a screenshot that
might be hard to see, but this

1922
02:04:45.001 --> 02:04:48.455
is under general information.
That one header at the top,

1923
02:04:48.455 --> 02:04:51.730
that's the section of the
checklist is it asks you for

1924
02:04:51.730 --> 02:04:55.481
those bulleted items that are
the reference documentation that

1925
02:04:55.481 --> 02:04:58.398
relate to the general
information portion of the

1926
02:04:58.398 --> 02:05:02.090
checklist. So in the financial
information it will ask you to

1927
02:05:02.090 --> 02:05:05.662
upload you know, MRE things,
other financial samples that's

1928
02:05:05.662 --> 02:05:07.330
going to be in that section.

1929
02:05:07.490 --> 02:05:11.423
And you can either upload the
documents or you can provide

1930
02:05:11.423 --> 02:05:15.690
URLs to the files. That's been
increasingly popular, especially

1931
02:05:15.690 --> 02:05:19.623
post pandemic, to just send us
links to shared folders and

1932
02:05:19.623 --> 02:05:23.890
things are. One note of advice
is obviously we need to have the

1933
02:05:23.890 --> 02:05:28.090
program officers need to have
access to the folders, so if you

1934
02:05:28.090 --> 02:05:32.290
give us links to things we can't
access, that could be tricky.

1935
02:05:34.400 --> 02:05:37.897
And then this is a new feature
and a whole new section of

1936
02:05:37.897 --> 02:05:41.757
content that hasn't been in the
checklist before and they're at

1937
02:05:41.757 --> 02:05:45.556
the end of each of the general
sections and we're calling them

1938
02:05:45.556 --> 02:05:49.415
discussion prompts there. We had
a lot of discussion internally

1939
02:05:49.415 --> 02:05:52.792
about, you know, we have the
checklist and then we find

1940
02:05:52.792 --> 02:05:56.109
ourselves asking follow up
questions and because again

1941
02:05:56.109 --> 02:06:00.029
we're just curious about things
beyond yes or no or like filling

1942
02:06:00.029 --> 02:06:03.587
out a document, but we also
realize that that might be off

1943
02:06:03.587 --> 02:06:04.087
putting.

1944
02:06:04.490 --> 02:06:07.806
To spontaneously have a follow
up question that makes it sound

1945
02:06:07.806 --> 02:06:11.175
like we're again investigating
something and really we are just

1946
02:06:11.175 --> 02:06:14.492
curious. So we thought why don't
we have some of our questions

1947
02:06:14.492 --> 02:06:17.545
that could prompt discussion,
give you a heads up that we

1948
02:06:17.545 --> 02:06:20.967
might be asking them or curious
about them, but it's not a field

1949
02:06:20.967 --> 02:06:24.179
that you have to fill out. So
it's more of just like hey, we

1950
02:06:24.179 --> 02:06:27.390
might discuss these things less
formally. So it's not in the

1951
02:06:27.390 --> 02:06:30.285
official record, it's not
anything like that, but it's

1952
02:06:30.285 --> 02:06:33.497
just things that didn't kind of
fit the checklist format and

1953
02:06:33.497 --> 02:06:34.550
again just no curve.

1954
02:06:34.780 --> 02:06:37.501
That's the whole point. We don't
want to ask any curveball

1955
02:06:37.501 --> 02:06:40.545
questions that leave you like, I
don't know, I don't know what to

1956
02:06:40.545 --> 02:06:42.160
say and causing any undue
anxiety.

1957
02:06:44.670 --> 02:06:48.187
And then yeah, this is a very
briefly an overview of the

1958
02:06:48.187 --> 02:06:52.198
checklist itself and why we have
these questions. And and so the

1959
02:06:52.198 --> 02:06:56.271
really the checklist provides us
an overview of basic statistics,

1960
02:06:56.271 --> 02:06:59.419
gives us a little bit more
detail about your legal

1961
02:06:59.419 --> 02:07:03.060
authority in the state to
administer Ellis State funds and

1962
02:07:03.060 --> 02:07:06.515
how you administer it, the
policies, procedures, things

1963
02:07:06.515 --> 02:07:09.848
like that and then of course
financial administrative

1964
02:07:09.848 --> 02:07:12.070
information related to the
program.

1965
02:07:13.930 --> 02:07:16.797
In the general information
section, I mean it's pretty

1966
02:07:16.797 --> 02:07:19.925
self-explanatory. It gives us
some general information, but

1967
02:07:19.925 --> 02:07:22.584
but again, it it seems very
basic. It's very basic

1968
02:07:22.584 --> 02:07:25.764
statistics, but from a program
officer perspective it's very

1969
02:07:25.764 --> 02:07:28.579
insightful to understand. OK,
these are the amount of

1970
02:07:28.579 --> 02:07:31.655
libraries, maybe these are the
amount of regionals, or no,

1971
02:07:31.655 --> 02:07:34.626
there aren't any regionals in
this state. Those kinds of

1972
02:07:34.626 --> 02:07:35.930
details are very helpful.

1973
02:07:37.760 --> 02:07:41.948
At legal authority in compliance
with federal law, again kind of

1974
02:07:41.948 --> 02:07:45.685
makes sense as to why we're
asking for those, but it also

1975
02:07:45.685 --> 02:07:49.357
gives us an opportunity for
deeper perspectives on legal

1976
02:07:49.357 --> 02:07:53.417
matters and the grounding for a
legal authority in your state.

1977
02:07:53.417 --> 02:07:57.411
Where is it in your state law
that that authorizes your state

1978
02:07:57.411 --> 02:08:01.600
librarian to do what they do and
how federal interacts with your

1979
02:08:01.600 --> 02:08:05.272
state laws and policies?
Obviously we all know about the

1980
02:08:05.272 --> 02:08:07.849
drug free workplace, so if
Dorothy was.

1981
02:08:07.940 --> 02:08:11.188
Hanging out in the poppy fields,
I don't know. She couldn't go to

1982
02:08:11.188 --> 02:08:13.600
the state library for a while. I
don't think so.

1983
02:08:14.710 --> 02:08:19.000
That is my very labored Wizard
of Oz tie to this session.

1984
02:08:21.170 --> 02:08:24.584
And then the administrative
activity section is is very

1985
02:08:24.584 --> 02:08:28.303
helpful. Again, these are the
kinds of things that we do not

1986
02:08:28.303 --> 02:08:32.023
have insight to with the SPR.
What are your written policies

1987
02:08:32.023 --> 02:08:35.803
and procedures? Who handles the
grant records? Do you have an

1988
02:08:35.803 --> 02:08:39.766
Advisory Council? You don't need
one. But if you do, how do they

1989
02:08:39.766 --> 02:08:43.363
interact with LSA funds? And
again like giving a peek into

1990
02:08:43.363 --> 02:08:47.022
the grand files, how do you
organize them? How complete are

1991
02:08:47.022 --> 02:08:49.400
they those kinds of things and
really?

1992
02:08:50.030 --> 02:08:53.001
As we've done this, this is not
only an opportunity for us to

1993
02:08:53.001 --> 02:08:56.116
help offer recommendations, but
you all have really great things

1994
02:08:56.116 --> 02:08:59.183
happening that we had a lot of
States asking like do you have a

1995
02:08:59.183 --> 02:09:02.058
great example of a subgrant
manual? Like yes, we do because

1996
02:09:02.058 --> 02:09:04.934
we just visited the state and
here is an example. So again,

1997
02:09:04.934 --> 02:09:07.713
it's about modeling and kind of
elevating things that are

1998
02:09:07.713 --> 02:09:08.959
really, really successful.

1999
02:09:10.220 --> 02:09:14.173
And the financial activity,
everybody's favorite and this is

2000
02:09:14.173 --> 02:09:18.127
typically where we would invite
the end of your fiscal reps,

2001
02:09:18.127 --> 02:09:22.016
controllers even potentially
depending on how your state is

2002
02:09:22.016 --> 02:09:25.905
structured to help not only
answer these questions but also

2003
02:09:25.905 --> 02:09:29.923
hear from us about why we have
Moe, which is always just very

2004
02:09:29.923 --> 02:09:34.136
mysterious to those who are not
directly engaged in this. And so

2005
02:09:34.136 --> 02:09:37.895
we as far as scheduling the
visit, you know, blocking off

2006
02:09:37.895 --> 02:09:39.970
time for your finance people to.

2007
02:09:40.330 --> 02:09:43.606
Help cover these part, this part
of the checklist is very

2008
02:09:43.606 --> 02:09:47.335
important. So we just talk about
4% administration, how does that

2009
02:09:47.335 --> 02:09:50.612
work? What are your cost
categories for that? I'm talking

2010
02:09:50.612 --> 02:09:54.171
about OE because again as you
know our perspective in the SPR,

2011
02:09:54.171 --> 02:09:57.674
we see your MO number and it's
there and we're like thank you

2012
02:09:57.674 --> 02:10:01.233
for that. But there's in the SPR
there isn't an opportunity to

2013
02:10:01.233 --> 02:10:04.566
understand like where that's
coming from. So that's why we

2014
02:10:04.566 --> 02:10:08.126
talk about it a lot. Yeah. And
if any audits have occurred and

2015
02:10:08.126 --> 02:10:10.160
why resolutions in that regard
and.

2016
02:10:10.250 --> 02:10:12.812
How your procurement policies
interact with federal

2017
02:10:12.812 --> 02:10:15.967
procurement policies, which is
always fun, and any equipment or

2018
02:10:15.967 --> 02:10:17.839
inventory and policies that you
have.

2019
02:10:19.460 --> 02:10:22.956
And then the wrap up section,
there is an area maybe if

2020
02:10:22.956 --> 02:10:27.077
there's some context that wasn't
covered in the other sections of

2021
02:10:27.077 --> 02:10:31.073
the checklist that you feel are
important to add. It could just

2022
02:10:31.073 --> 02:10:34.694
be about how the state is
structured. You could even talk

2023
02:10:34.694 --> 02:10:38.128
about maybe the political
climate, if that informs LTA

2024
02:10:38.128 --> 02:10:41.999
anything, it's just kind of like
an open-ended area. And then

2025
02:10:41.999 --> 02:10:45.558
this is relatively new. We
usually we get the agenda and

2026
02:10:45.558 --> 02:10:49.430
itineraries via e-mail, but this
is an opportunity again for.

2027
02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:53.199
Institutional memory and record
keeping to have it in the SPR.

2028
02:10:53.199 --> 02:10:56.219
So that way you're like, oh,
this was this was the agenda

2029
02:10:56.219 --> 02:10:59.187
last time and so there's an
opportunity to help with the

2030
02:10:59.187 --> 02:11:00.020
documents there.

2031
02:11:01.870 --> 02:11:06.041
This is we may have covered
these elements already, but with

2032
02:11:06.041 --> 02:11:10.282
we do all of our states within a
four year. And then we don't

2033
02:11:10.282 --> 02:11:14.385
visit, we won't visit any state
in 2027 because you are all

2034
02:11:14.385 --> 02:11:18.694
doing plenty with five year plan
evaluations and writing a new

2035
02:11:18.694 --> 02:11:22.592
five year plan. So that that
average is out for us to do

2036
02:11:22.592 --> 02:11:26.764
about 5 states a year as you saw
in the schedule and we also

2037
02:11:26.764 --> 02:11:31.004
mentioned this already, we kind
of base our schedule based on

2038
02:11:31.004 --> 02:11:31.290
OK.

2039
02:11:31.290 --> 02:11:34.353
Five years ago, I visited the
state. So it's like a healthy

2040
02:11:34.353 --> 02:11:37.416
distance between the two. That
doesn't have to be the case.

2041
02:11:37.416 --> 02:11:40.633
We've had states that just are
don't have a state librarian or

2042
02:11:40.633 --> 02:11:43.799
don't have an LSD coordinator or
both. And they're just like,

2043
02:11:43.799 --> 02:11:46.658
doesn't make a whole lot of
sense for you to be here. I

2044
02:11:46.658 --> 02:11:49.772
don't know what we're really
going to be able to talk about.

2045
02:11:49.772 --> 02:11:53.091
And so I'll kind of reach out to
another state and ask, hey, can

2046
02:11:53.091 --> 02:11:56.103
I come a year earlier or that
kind of thing so we can make

2047
02:11:56.103 --> 02:11:59.014
those kinds of accommodations,
especially with plenty of

2048
02:11:59.014 --> 02:11:59.780
advance notice.

2049
02:12:00.870 --> 02:12:04.012
Yeah, so that was a bit of a
flyby, but I wanted to not hold

2050
02:12:04.012 --> 02:12:07.102
you up for lunch, and I wanted
to. I really appreciated the

2051
02:12:07.102 --> 02:12:10.347
healthy discussion that you all
shared with each other. But if

2052
02:12:10.347 --> 02:12:13.489
there's any questions about the
checklist or how it works, I

2053
02:12:13.489 --> 02:12:16.735
know there was somebody who had
questions about documentation.

2054
02:12:16.735 --> 02:12:19.877
If we didn't cover them in the
way that the new checklist is

2055
02:12:19.877 --> 02:12:21.680
laid out, please feel free to
ask.

2056
02:12:33.130 --> 02:12:33.630
The.

2057
02:12:39.940 --> 02:12:42.926
Well, well, you know where we
all are. If you have any follow

2058
02:12:42.926 --> 02:12:45.817
up questions, I appreciate all
of your time and all of your

2059
02:12:45.817 --> 02:12:48.467
participation is really
insightful. Thank you so much.

2060
02:12:48.467 --> 02:12:49.720
Am I free to release them?

2061
02:13:01.790 --> 02:13:04.390
Was delicious and Seattle.

2062
02:13:06.020 --> 02:13:10.667
I am happy to start to kick off
the second scenario planning

2063
02:13:10.667 --> 02:13:13.410
session that we have. I'm
thrilled.

2064
02:13:15.900 --> 02:13:20.438
Eight in the scenario planning
session again today is Glenda

2065
02:13:20.438 --> 02:13:25.052
themed, so it should be really
exciting and fun and not panic

2066
02:13:25.052 --> 02:13:29.219
inducing scenarios like
yesterday. As a reminder of the

2067
02:13:29.219 --> 02:13:33.832
structure, again, we're talking
about windfalls and wonderful

2068
02:13:33.832 --> 02:13:38.445
things today and you will again
have 30 minutes to digest the

2069
02:13:38.445 --> 02:13:42.910
scenario individually. Kind of
process it like before for 5

2070
02:13:42.910 --> 02:13:46.110
minutes and then for 25 minutes
just talk.

2071
02:13:46.180 --> 02:13:49.383
That's a group about the
implications for the work of

2072
02:13:49.383 --> 02:13:52.468
state libraries your
facilitators will have. You'll

2073
02:13:52.468 --> 02:13:56.147
have an IMS facilitator still,
and, and this is really a note

2074
02:13:56.147 --> 02:13:59.884
to myself as a facilitator, is
to identify sooner than when we

2075
02:13:59.884 --> 02:14:03.681
did yesterday, a representative
who will share a summary of the

2076
02:14:03.681 --> 02:14:07.538
group's work. When we come back
together and just and we'll have

2077
02:14:07.538 --> 02:14:11.038
additional time to also debrief
across both days about the

2078
02:14:11.038 --> 02:14:14.657
planning process, scenario,
planning process in general, and

2079
02:14:14.657 --> 02:14:16.199
what you gathered from it.

2080
02:14:17.940 --> 02:14:22.177
This is a reminder of the norms.
Be open to new ideas, the

2081
02:14:22.177 --> 02:14:26.485
challenge, your own assumptions.
Suspend your disbelief. Of

2082
02:14:26.485 --> 02:14:31.010
course. Very important. Stay in
2040 and not how that couldn't

2083
02:14:31.010 --> 02:14:35.606
possibly happen, because we're
in 2040 and we're suspending our

2084
02:14:35.606 --> 02:14:40.130
disbelief. And once again, fully
participate, listen, actively

2085
02:14:40.130 --> 02:14:44.726
contribute, leave space in the
conversation for others and stay

2086
02:14:44.726 --> 02:14:47.239
engaged. All right? So now we
are.

2087
02:14:47.310 --> 02:14:50.793
Reassigned the breakouts by
state. We know that there are

2088
02:14:50.793 --> 02:14:54.517
more than one of you per state.
In some instances, that means

2089
02:14:54.517 --> 02:14:56.860
both of you just kind of go as a
unit.

2090
02:14:58.170 --> 02:15:02.496
And so in the Madison Ballroom
with Madison, of course, is

2091
02:15:02.496 --> 02:15:04.330
Alaska through Minnesota.

2092
02:15:05.820 --> 02:15:09.996
Terry, in the East Room has
Missouri through Pennsylvania

2093
02:15:09.996 --> 02:15:14.461
and I have on the South Room
Puerto Rico through Wyoming. And

2094
02:15:14.461 --> 02:15:19.069
of course we have our wonderful
virtual breakouts and they have

2095
02:15:19.069 --> 02:15:21.950
the link to the separate
breakout room.

2096
02:15:26.230 --> 02:15:30.926
Yeah, right. Exactly. All right.
So without further ado, let us

2097
02:15:30.926 --> 02:15:31.660
break out.

2098
02:15:32.880 --> 02:15:33.410
Freak out.

2099
02:15:44.800 --> 02:15:47.908
Do you need more time to report
out for the virtual? Why don't

2100
02:15:47.908 --> 02:15:50.080
we start with the virtual this
time around?

2101
02:15:55.530 --> 02:15:56.070
Long way.

2102
02:16:00.770 --> 02:16:03.080
All right. So in our scenario.

2103
02:16:04.640 --> 02:16:06.800
Based on a new study from the
Department of Ed.

2104
02:16:08.240 --> 02:16:13.650
Literacy rates in adults have
jumped from 79% to 99%.

2105
02:16:15.310 --> 02:16:19.793
Findings credit programming and
collections and public libraries

2106
02:16:19.793 --> 02:16:23.931
across the country. Demand for
library services and reading

2107
02:16:23.931 --> 02:16:28.001
materials is skyrocketing.
Reading is now cultural capital

2108
02:16:28.001 --> 02:16:32.415
in the United States. Personal
cachet is measured by the amount

2109
02:16:32.415 --> 02:16:36.623
of books one reads. I know some
of you are really excited. I

2110
02:16:36.623 --> 02:16:40.899
know, I know. Someone on chat
described it as library utopia.

2111
02:16:40.899 --> 02:16:44.900
Yeah, yeah. So for the first
question, what would be the?

2112
02:16:44.970 --> 02:16:49.531
Applications for the state
library, leveraging successes,

2113
02:16:49.531 --> 02:16:50.790
focus on equity.

2114
02:16:52.040 --> 02:16:56.614
Efforts for children's
programming should be stepped up

2115
02:16:56.614 --> 02:16:57.350
for sure.

2116
02:16:59.880 --> 02:17:03.053
And that would probably include
consultants broken down by

2117
02:17:03.053 --> 02:17:05.850
grade, like elementary, middle
school, high school.

2118
02:17:07.200 --> 02:17:11.548
Audio books and ebooks would
need to remain in place for sure

2119
02:17:11.548 --> 02:17:12.460
and relevant.

2120
02:17:15.270 --> 02:17:18.000
Let's see here libraries and
publishers.

2121
02:17:18.980 --> 02:17:23.050
Would the SLA would have a role
in the contract negotiations?

2122
02:17:26.460 --> 02:17:29.186
There was a lot of there was
conversation about interest

2123
02:17:29.186 --> 02:17:30.000
groups and there.

2124
02:17:32.510 --> 02:17:35.743
Having to navigate that
complicated sandbox? How about

2125
02:17:35.743 --> 02:17:36.860
we put it that way?

2126
02:17:38.850 --> 02:17:43.755
Consider how many library
schools are currently offered in

2127
02:17:43.755 --> 02:17:48.827
in the country and should that
increase. And we want to make

2128
02:17:48.827 --> 02:17:54.148
sure that libraries can continue
to provide quality reading for

2129
02:17:54.148 --> 02:17:58.805
users, like an info lit theme
and they were emphasizing

2130
02:17:58.805 --> 02:18:01.050
quality, not just quantity.

2131
02:18:02.250 --> 02:18:06.158
Very good. Good job. Virtual
group. All right, who wants to

2132
02:18:06.158 --> 02:18:09.480
be the first of the in person
group to report out?

2133
02:18:10.660 --> 02:18:13.150
Not everybody at once. All
right, Nicolette.

2134
02:18:16.860 --> 02:18:20.187
So our scenario. By 2040,
federal, state, and local

2135
02:18:20.187 --> 02:18:23.899
governments collaborate to
guarantee that everyone in the

2136
02:18:23.899 --> 02:18:27.866
United States has affordable
access to the Internet at a fast

2137
02:18:27.866 --> 02:18:31.705
speed. We decided this is a
result of years of planning and

2138
02:18:31.705 --> 02:18:35.609
installing infrastructure with
assistance from libraries and

2139
02:18:35.609 --> 02:18:39.384
communications companies.
Devices are readily available to

2140
02:18:39.384 --> 02:18:43.480
the public, and digital literacy
is also generally agreed to be

2141
02:18:43.480 --> 02:18:45.720
universal. So we talked about
how.

2142
02:18:45.800 --> 02:18:49.377
Even if people have access to
devices and the like basic

2143
02:18:49.377 --> 02:18:52.892
digital literacy to use them,
that libraries will still

2144
02:18:52.892 --> 02:18:56.783
probably necessarily need to
focus on things like information

2145
02:18:56.783 --> 02:19:00.297
literacy, which is not
guaranteed just because you have

2146
02:19:00.297 --> 02:19:04.189
a computer. So teaching people
to, you know, we all know what

2147
02:19:04.189 --> 02:19:08.017
information literacy is, as well
as, you know, financial and

2148
02:19:08.017 --> 02:19:12.097
health literacy and all of those
kinds of things. We also talked

2149
02:19:12.097 --> 02:19:15.800
about early digital literacy and
looking how young people.

2150
02:19:15.890 --> 02:19:19.425
Are interacting with technology
and that that's something we'll

2151
02:19:19.425 --> 02:19:22.628
have to consider probably
differently than we do now, but

2152
02:19:22.628 --> 02:19:23.128
still.

2153
02:19:23.990 --> 02:19:28.326
Incorporating technology and
literacy into early literacy

2154
02:19:28.326 --> 02:19:32.813
programming, we talked about not
a huge shift in what state

2155
02:19:32.813 --> 02:19:36.178
library agencies and
coordinators are doing,

2156
02:19:36.178 --> 02:19:40.590
potentially just reinvesting
some of our dollars away from

2157
02:19:40.590 --> 02:19:42.310
buying lots of devices.

2158
02:19:43.360 --> 02:19:47.530
All the time. Or buying, you
know, working on the broadband,

2159
02:19:47.530 --> 02:19:51.564
but umm, you know, investing in
project management, future

2160
02:19:51.564 --> 02:19:55.803
technology. We talked a little
bit about AI and I said robots

2161
02:19:55.803 --> 02:20:00.315
in VR, but in 2040 it's probably
going to be things we can't even

2162
02:20:00.315 --> 02:20:04.281
really comprehend right now,
necessarily funding. We will

2163
02:20:04.281 --> 02:20:08.246
need to consider funding things
like more databases, more

2164
02:20:08.246 --> 02:20:11.870
training and information
literacy. Also more ebooks.

2165
02:20:13.210 --> 02:20:16.644
Some job titles we talked about,
you know, continuing with our

2166
02:20:16.644 --> 02:20:19.587
technology and innovation
librarians, I think I wrote

2167
02:20:19.587 --> 02:20:20.087
down.

2168
02:20:21.060 --> 02:20:24.570
Early digital literacy trainers.
I know there was the word

2169
02:20:24.570 --> 02:20:27.842
shepherd thrown around
technology Shepherd, because we

2170
02:20:27.842 --> 02:20:31.411
need people to shepherd people
through this change and that

2171
02:20:31.411 --> 02:20:35.278
that would be a big role in the
library. And we do talk a little

2172
02:20:35.278 --> 02:20:39.086
bit also about mental health and
Wellness, human connection and

2173
02:20:39.086 --> 02:20:42.477
sort of counter programming to
all of the connection and

2174
02:20:42.477 --> 02:20:46.225
bringing people together back in
spaces. And I did write super

2175
02:20:46.225 --> 02:20:50.092
compliance really big and making
sure that everyone's doing that

2176
02:20:50.092 --> 02:20:50.592
too.

2177
02:20:51.770 --> 02:20:55.155
I probably missed a lot because
we had a very engaging and

2178
02:20:55.155 --> 02:20:56.820
wide-ranging discussion, but.

2179
02:20:58.330 --> 02:20:59.430
Yeah, that's a good summary.

2180
02:21:01.090 --> 02:21:02.780
I was there. It was good.

2181
02:21:04.500 --> 02:21:06.180
Alright, next group.

2182
02:21:13.130 --> 02:21:13.630
Hmm.

2183
02:21:16.060 --> 02:21:20.530
So our scenario, I know this is
supposed to be the positive one.

2184
02:21:21.850 --> 02:21:26.088
This is what our scenario was.
Following an overhaul of the US

2185
02:21:26.088 --> 02:21:29.856
Constitution and an executive
order from President Lisa

2186
02:21:29.856 --> 02:21:33.758
Simpson in 2040, all state
librarians, top SLA officials,

2187
02:21:33.758 --> 02:21:37.929
are appointed governor of their
respective state with no term

2188
02:21:37.929 --> 02:21:42.100
limits. Moving forward, it is
required that the governor have

2189
02:21:42.100 --> 02:21:43.850
a background in libraries.

2190
02:21:45.060 --> 02:21:49.320
Took us a little while to start
talking and I will say that my

2191
02:21:49.320 --> 02:21:51.890
comment was I don't like any of
this.

2192
02:21:54.090 --> 02:21:56.470
Jamie made a really good point
that.

2193
02:21:57.520 --> 02:22:01.163
As far as librarians, we really
value being nonpartisan. So you

2194
02:22:01.163 --> 02:22:04.806
go from that to being political.
And it was, I think, just very

2195
02:22:04.806 --> 02:22:08.336
uncomfortable. And maybe we're
just used to dealing with, oh,

2196
02:22:08.336 --> 02:22:11.808
there's a disaster, let's go,
let's go fix this. Like, we're

2197
02:22:11.808 --> 02:22:15.395
used to problems. We're used to
fixing things. So there were a

2198
02:22:15.395 --> 02:22:18.640
couple of different things that
we kind of came up with.

2199
02:22:21.380 --> 02:22:24.796
The first is what librarian
would want to be governor, kind

2200
02:22:24.796 --> 02:22:28.441
of. But then you start looking
at the different state librarian

2201
02:22:28.441 --> 02:22:31.915
requirements because we all have
different requirements with

2202
02:22:31.915 --> 02:22:32.415
that.

2203
02:22:35.230 --> 02:22:37.785
And then we did decide that the
LST coordinator would be

2204
02:22:37.785 --> 02:22:40.700
Lieutenant governor. And I feel
like that's a very fun position.

2205
02:22:43.960 --> 02:22:47.258
But there were some. So some of
the concerns that kind of came

2206
02:22:47.258 --> 02:22:50.243
up first were we're looking at
what's our mission creep,

2207
02:22:50.243 --> 02:22:53.489
because now we're in charge of
everything. And even though we

2208
02:22:53.489 --> 02:22:56.893
generally think we're in charge
of everything, now we really are

2209
02:22:56.893 --> 02:22:58.150
in charge of everything.

2210
02:23:00.050 --> 02:23:03.231
We would probably take a
different approach to budgeting

2211
02:23:03.231 --> 02:23:06.636
the types of things that are
funded, not just libraries, but

2212
02:23:06.636 --> 02:23:09.985
I think a lot of the social
services that we wrap ourselves

2213
02:23:09.985 --> 02:23:13.501
around education, people would
really want to partner with us.

2214
02:23:13.501 --> 02:23:16.460
We would really it would be type
that type of thing.

2215
02:23:17.890 --> 02:23:21.470
We, I must would probably be a
lot more political.

2216
02:23:23.020 --> 02:23:26.945
We to talk about there probably
a lot less internal hires and a

2217
02:23:26.945 --> 02:23:30.563
lot more political appointees,
and that can go in a lot of

2218
02:23:30.563 --> 02:23:34.182
different directions. There
would, amazingly, be even more

2219
02:23:34.182 --> 02:23:35.470
bureaucracy possible.

2220
02:23:37.060 --> 02:23:40.083
We talked about there would be a
lot more scrutiny of library

2221
02:23:40.083 --> 02:23:42.862
services and more price. You
kind of get a Little Mix of

2222
02:23:42.862 --> 02:23:45.739
both. You get elevated and
sometimes when you're elevated,

2223
02:23:45.739 --> 02:23:48.859
it's like, oh, look, everyone's
paying attention and thanks for

2224
02:23:48.859 --> 02:23:51.980
lovely, and then everyone starts
picking at us a lot more. What

2225
02:23:51.980 --> 02:23:55.051
we really wanted at the end we
decided was we want more money,

2226
02:23:55.051 --> 02:23:57.880
but we just want everyone to
kind of like leave us alone.

2227
02:23:59.820 --> 02:24:03.398
Libraries would probably be
attacked even even more. We did

2228
02:24:03.398 --> 02:24:07.215
eventually get around to some of
the wonderful things that this

2229
02:24:07.215 --> 02:24:11.091
could create, increase in state
aid, kind of getting back to you

2230
02:24:11.091 --> 02:24:14.670
more funding for social services
and cultural institutions.

2231
02:24:16.030 --> 02:24:20.019
More, just more, more, more more
money, more staff, more ability

2232
02:24:20.019 --> 02:24:23.150
to really set our own
priorities, more support for

2233
02:24:23.150 --> 02:24:26.464
workforce development and
lifelong learning we talked

2234
02:24:26.464 --> 02:24:29.595
about like, oh, there'll be a
lot more funding for

2235
02:24:29.595 --> 02:24:33.216
universities. And again, like
some of the other people are

2236
02:24:33.216 --> 02:24:36.899
talking about library degrees
and any other kind of degrees

2237
02:24:36.899 --> 02:24:38.679
being able to really support.

2238
02:24:40.350 --> 02:24:44.234
Things that we value with money
that we would have a level

2239
02:24:44.234 --> 02:24:48.315
playing field for funding for
libraries of all sizes. I think

2240
02:24:48.315 --> 02:24:52.462
we all know that in many cases
it's very local funding. And it

2241
02:24:52.462 --> 02:24:56.544
just depends on like, do you
have things there that like have

2242
02:24:56.544 --> 02:25:00.757
property taxes and again getting
back to that different funding

2243
02:25:00.757 --> 02:25:04.510
piece, the other thing that we
finally said was we would

2244
02:25:04.510 --> 02:25:08.591
definitely have conferences in
Hawaii. And I think that's the

2245
02:25:08.591 --> 02:25:10.040
important note to add.

2246
02:25:16.300 --> 02:25:19.610
All right. Our third and final
in person group. All right.

2247
02:25:25.360 --> 02:25:25.860
Like.

2248
02:25:44.290 --> 02:25:48.884
So our scenario was due to the
productive work of kasla, the

2249
02:25:48.884 --> 02:25:53.327
federal funding goal of $10 per
capita is achieved for LTA

2250
02:25:53.327 --> 02:25:58.072
starting in fiscal year 2040.
Note in 2023 the federal funding

2251
02:25:58.072 --> 02:25:58.750
level of.

2252
02:25:58.830 --> 02:26:03.671
LA is approximately $0.50 per
capita each each state in US

2253
02:26:03.671 --> 02:26:08.349
territories federal funding in
the grants states program

2254
02:26:08.349 --> 02:26:09.169
increases.

2255
02:26:10.320 --> 02:26:13.727
From the year prior by a factor
of 10. The states received

2256
02:26:13.727 --> 02:26:16.845
notice of this three months
before the new awards are

2257
02:26:16.845 --> 02:26:17.345
issued.

2258
02:26:19.610 --> 02:26:23.667
Kind of deja vu, maybe a little
bit. OK. So we structured ours

2259
02:26:23.667 --> 02:26:27.530
in threats, opportunities and
then kind of other stuff that

2260
02:26:27.530 --> 02:26:31.588
didn't quite fit. So the first
thing we brought up was the MLE

2261
02:26:31.588 --> 02:26:35.323
and match. Obviously, MLE is a
average of the three years

2262
02:26:35.323 --> 02:26:39.251
prior, but meeting that match
for some states might be a big

2263
02:26:39.251 --> 02:26:42.922
issue. I think for many of us,
having that state funding

2264
02:26:42.922 --> 02:26:46.979
available is something that was
of concern. We weren't sure if

2265
02:26:46.979 --> 02:26:49.040
it was an opportunity or threat.

2266
02:26:49.110 --> 02:26:51.690
That's kind of in between, so.

2267
02:26:53.390 --> 02:26:57.619
So opportunity wise we saw that
we could fully fund local

2268
02:26:57.619 --> 02:27:01.922
projects without asking for
match potentially and we would

2269
02:27:01.922 --> 02:27:06.151
be able to create equity with
such a large amount. We can

2270
02:27:06.151 --> 02:27:10.964
rethink programs and we can fund
larger projects and obviously do

2271
02:27:10.964 --> 02:27:15.632
more sub awards with these funds
and especially tackling issues

2272
02:27:15.632 --> 02:27:20.445
like building capacity and doing
multi year grants to rethink how

2273
02:27:20.445 --> 02:27:22.560
programs are currently being.

2274
02:27:23.060 --> 02:27:27.901
Run. So with the short notice,
we thought that there might need

2275
02:27:27.901 --> 02:27:32.516
to be a need for the quick and
easy grants just to get money

2276
02:27:32.516 --> 02:27:37.282
out the door, and that could be
through mini grants or formula

2277
02:27:37.282 --> 02:27:42.124
grants. And we thought that an
opportunity would be a dedicated

2278
02:27:42.124 --> 02:27:46.739
focus on specific populations
like the underserved and doing

2279
02:27:46.739 --> 02:27:51.278
comprehensive research. So we're
not spending money without

2280
02:27:51.278 --> 02:27:53.169
knowing what the need is.

2281
02:27:55.300 --> 02:27:59.448
And we saw that this could be an
opportunity for growth for Lt.

2282
02:27:59.448 --> 02:28:03.273
coordinators. There could be
chances for promotion. We saw

2283
02:28:03.273 --> 02:28:07.422
the role changing from more of a
day-to-day operational to more

2284
02:28:07.422 --> 02:28:11.506
of a managerial because there's
going to be more staff needing

2285
02:28:11.506 --> 02:28:15.266
to run the program, doing the
program officer work in the

2286
02:28:15.266 --> 02:28:15.979
day-to-day.

2287
02:28:17.520 --> 02:28:21.846
State libraries would have more
sway at the table and with the

2288
02:28:21.846 --> 02:28:26.035
extra funding that comes with
more partnerships, and so that

2289
02:28:26.035 --> 02:28:27.890
can be kind of good or bad.

2290
02:28:30.460 --> 02:28:31.390
And.

2291
02:28:32.720 --> 02:28:37.395
There's the opportunity to
revisit construction with LTA

2292
02:28:37.395 --> 02:28:42.644
open that can of worms and plus
or minus five year change, five

2293
02:28:42.644 --> 02:28:47.976
year plan changes mid cycle and
the administrative costs, the 4%

2294
02:28:47.976 --> 02:28:52.979
that could really fund a lot
more stuff at the state library

2295
02:28:52.979 --> 02:28:58.146
and really open up opportunities
for other spending. So threat

2296
02:28:58.146 --> 02:29:02.330
wise we saw additional staffing
as being an issue.

2297
02:29:03.150 --> 02:29:07.520
Everybody's hiring. Are we still
hiring? Then yes.

2298
02:29:09.280 --> 02:29:13.722
Fatigue, not only internally at
the State library, but also with

2299
02:29:13.722 --> 02:29:17.960
sub awardees, there'd be grant
fatigue timeline and potential

2300
02:29:17.960 --> 02:29:22.061
delays. Got a + 1 on that and
that would just be what we've

2301
02:29:22.061 --> 02:29:25.821
all lived through. So smaller
libraries not having the

2302
02:29:25.821 --> 02:29:30.127
capacity still, you know we all
have libraries who don't apply

2303
02:29:30.127 --> 02:29:34.502
for grants. That's just going to
continue forward because their

2304
02:29:34.502 --> 02:29:38.603
capacity doesn't change just
because we have an increase in

2305
02:29:38.603 --> 02:29:39.150
funding.

2306
02:29:39.290 --> 02:29:43.519
Um. But that could also be an
opportunity to how can we help

2307
02:29:43.519 --> 02:29:47.888
support them better? And so more
money, more problems, and the

2308
02:29:47.888 --> 02:29:51.840
political ramifications of
visibility? The state library

2309
02:29:51.840 --> 02:29:56.001
would have a seat at the table.
And what does that mean for

2310
02:29:56.001 --> 02:29:57.180
people trying to?

2311
02:29:58.630 --> 02:29:59.340
Use it.

2312
02:30:02.070 --> 02:30:02.720
Umm.

2313
02:30:05.350 --> 02:30:09.048
More audits? Sorry, I I
scribbled that word. I was like,

2314
02:30:09.048 --> 02:30:13.136
no, the potential loss of local
funding due to the increase of

2315
02:30:13.136 --> 02:30:16.964
federal funding. So local
libraries could move, lose money

2316
02:30:16.964 --> 02:30:20.987
due to this, increase turnover
extensions, and then the state

2317
02:30:20.987 --> 02:30:24.751
library could be viewed as big
government because of this

2318
02:30:24.751 --> 02:30:28.968
massive amount of money. And so
the trustworthiness of libraries

2319
02:30:28.968 --> 02:30:32.732
could be impacted, which is
something that I think we all

2320
02:30:32.732 --> 02:30:34.030
find very important.

2321
02:30:34.760 --> 02:30:36.910
Umm, we talked about.

2322
02:30:37.700 --> 02:30:38.350
Umm.

2323
02:30:40.330 --> 02:30:44.800
Potentially like having a start
up mentality but how do you

2324
02:30:44.800 --> 02:30:49.642
approach how to approach things
strategically? So try to slow it

2325
02:30:49.642 --> 02:30:51.580
down on the front end and.

2326
02:30:52.890 --> 02:30:56.166
We'll have additional grants
processing to make sure all the

2327
02:30:56.166 --> 02:30:59.120
components are in the
application. So like when you're

2328
02:30:59.120 --> 02:31:02.504
doing those initial checks on an
application to make sure it's

2329
02:31:02.504 --> 02:31:05.781
complete, that will be more time
consuming because obviously

2330
02:31:05.781 --> 02:31:07.500
you'll have more sub awards and.

2331
02:31:09.220 --> 02:31:11.540
I think I hit everything unless
somebody has something they want

2332
02:31:11.540 --> 02:31:12.040
to add.

2333
02:31:12.780 --> 02:31:16.850
That's great. Thank you. All
right, Dennis.

2334
02:31:17.920 --> 02:31:21.286
Dennis, Dennis on your right,
hi. I inadvertently only

2335
02:31:21.286 --> 02:31:25.143
answered one of the questions. I
need some more coffee. I'm so

2336
02:31:25.143 --> 02:31:28.510
sorry. I just wanted to give
back the feed some of the

2337
02:31:28.510 --> 02:31:31.693
feedback that I managed to
capture. Just as a quick

2338
02:31:31.693 --> 02:31:35.488
reminder, this is the scenario
where the literacy rate jumped

2339
02:31:35.488 --> 02:31:39.161
and four question #2, the role
of the LST coordinator there

2340
02:31:39.161 --> 02:31:41.610
would be an LST coordinator
department.

2341
02:31:43.230 --> 02:31:46.985
And more sway in the
organization, like Catherine was

2342
02:31:46.985 --> 02:31:50.811
saying, and we talked a lot
about how did we get here.

2343
02:31:50.811 --> 02:31:54.984
Publishers were overthrown,
which was really interesting to

2344
02:31:54.984 --> 02:31:55.610
consider.

2345
02:31:57.080 --> 02:32:02.464
Those audio and ebook licenses
were retained by the libraries.

2346
02:32:02.464 --> 02:32:08.019
We talked about increased social
services offerings, healthcare,

2347
02:32:08.019 --> 02:32:13.575
telehealth in the libraries, and
more. Remote learning. Abolish.

2348
02:32:13.575 --> 02:32:14.430
Excuse me?

2349
02:32:15.320 --> 02:32:20.833
Provide additional services to
incarcerated or decarceration

2350
02:32:20.833 --> 02:32:26.165
folks. And then for #3 we talked
for the funding support a

2351
02:32:26.165 --> 02:32:29.690
shorter workweek, flexible work
hours.

2352
02:32:31.240 --> 02:32:34.741
No parameters for readers. So
this was something that we

2353
02:32:34.741 --> 02:32:38.305
touched on for you can read
anything you want. There's no

2354
02:32:38.305 --> 02:32:42.359
ban. There's you can pick up any
book you like. Folks, some of us

2355
02:32:42.359 --> 02:32:44.940
may take this for granted.
Please do not.

2356
02:32:46.930 --> 02:32:52.541
And let's see here. SLAA retains
licensing. Licensing that I said

2357
02:32:52.541 --> 02:32:57.728
sustaining the 99% literacy
rate. We would want to make sure

2358
02:32:57.728 --> 02:33:03.339
the messaging and the perception
of the libraries maintains that.

2359
02:33:04.700 --> 02:33:08.690
And like Catherine said,
revisiting the construction can

2360
02:33:08.690 --> 02:33:10.510
of Worms is a possibility.

2361
02:33:12.140 --> 02:33:13.810
Libraries as works of art.

2362
02:33:15.170 --> 02:33:19.298
Our tourist destinations, we've
seen some of those in our lives

2363
02:33:19.298 --> 02:33:23.168
which are just amazing book
groups, not just functioning as

2364
02:33:23.168 --> 02:33:27.361
book groups, but also to combat
loneliness and social anxieties,

2365
02:33:27.361 --> 02:33:31.425
sort of like somebody literally,
literally said book groups on

2366
02:33:31.425 --> 02:33:33.490
steroids, which I kind of liked.

2367
02:33:35.410 --> 02:33:40.415
And an equitable base collection
for every single library. So

2368
02:33:40.415 --> 02:33:45.500
you're sort of all starting out
at the same place I am. A less

2369
02:33:45.500 --> 02:33:49.860
would have more money than the
Department of Defense.

2370
02:33:52.630 --> 02:33:54.820
Just look, just marinating that
for a second.

2371
02:33:56.170 --> 02:33:57.360
And no SPR.

2372
02:33:59.610 --> 02:34:04.823
And finally on #4, for job
titles, we talked more about

2373
02:34:04.823 --> 02:34:10.688
early childhood and development
librarians, equity focused job

2374
02:34:10.688 --> 02:34:11.340
titles.

2375
02:34:12.810 --> 02:34:13.550
A reader.

2376
02:34:14.620 --> 02:34:18.871
Isn't it great to be read to how
about that? A programming

2377
02:34:18.871 --> 02:34:23.410
department, an author liaison, a
library extension consultant,

2378
02:34:23.410 --> 02:34:27.805
more social Social services
coordinator or consulting a book

2379
02:34:27.805 --> 02:34:31.768
loop. Again, a book group
coordinator, drone book drop

2380
02:34:31.768 --> 02:34:36.235
delivery operator. Love that.
Books for babies. So as soon as

2381
02:34:36.235 --> 02:34:40.486
you bring your baby to the
library for the first time, you

2382
02:34:40.486 --> 02:34:44.881
get a book right there at the
library. I love that. And that

2383
02:34:44.881 --> 02:34:45.529
would be.

2384
02:34:45.660 --> 02:34:49.712
Addressing, you know, the high
adult literacy rate. But we want

2385
02:34:49.712 --> 02:34:53.701
to make sure that those babies
get started as soon as possible

2386
02:34:53.701 --> 02:34:57.120
and helping caregivers and
parents to pass along that

2387
02:34:57.120 --> 02:35:00.729
increased literacy rate with
best practices to the young

2388
02:35:00.729 --> 02:35:04.908
ones. Sorry to make you all come
back to me, but I just wanted to

2389
02:35:04.908 --> 02:35:08.771
get all that in. Thanks, Dennis.
Great. Wonderful. OK. Well,

2390
02:35:08.771 --> 02:35:12.760
yeah, that's off to everybody. I
don't want to get too much in

2391
02:35:12.760 --> 02:35:15.229
the way of what's coming next
because.

2392
02:35:16.030 --> 02:35:19.742
Our assistant? No. Our deputy
director for library services,

2393
02:35:19.742 --> 02:35:23.515
Cindy Landrum, is our kind of
futurist maven, and she's going

2394
02:35:23.515 --> 02:35:27.166
to speak to us virtually very
quickly. But I wanted to just

2395
02:35:27.166 --> 02:35:30.696
spend a little bit of time on
asking you, like, what your

2396
02:35:30.696 --> 02:35:33.861
overall impression of the
process was. What type of

2397
02:35:33.861 --> 02:35:37.269
scenario fostered more
interesting discussion yesterday

2398
02:35:37.269 --> 02:35:40.859
or today's? And what insights
did you glean that you could

2399
02:35:40.859 --> 02:35:44.632
apply to your work? We're really
interested in those kinds of

2400
02:35:44.632 --> 02:35:45.850
how, how this could.

2401
02:35:45.920 --> 02:35:48.566
Kind of be transferred. This
practice could be transferred

2402
02:35:48.566 --> 02:35:49.066
outside of.

2403
02:35:49.790 --> 02:35:52.923
This this process in the
conference. So again just for a

2404
02:35:52.923 --> 02:35:56.276
couple of minutes, if anybody
has some quick impressions, we

2405
02:35:56.276 --> 02:35:58.860
can popcorn them and then pass
it on to Cindy.

2406
02:36:04.760 --> 02:36:08.746
Dennis, I shared some of this
with Terry who led the scenario

2407
02:36:08.746 --> 02:36:12.476
that I was in before, but I
really liked this exercise. I

2408
02:36:12.476 --> 02:36:16.527
hope that the folks in the room
did as well. Yesterday is more

2409
02:36:16.527 --> 02:36:20.772
provocative one perhaps with the
Union that Madison led and then,

2410
02:36:20.772 --> 02:36:24.758
you know, the more money than
God the Terry just led with us.

2411
02:36:24.758 --> 02:36:28.167
I think giving us these
scenarios that seem wild and

2412
02:36:28.167 --> 02:36:31.961
putting them so far in the
future that some of us might be

2413
02:36:31.961 --> 02:36:32.990
retired allowed.

2414
02:36:33.060 --> 02:36:36.254
Just the like the space and the
grace to just kind of go crazy

2415
02:36:36.254 --> 02:36:39.600
with you know what we're sharing
and what we're thinking you know

2416
02:36:39.600 --> 02:36:42.744
abolish the SPR over here on the
on the virtual conference. I

2417
02:36:42.744 --> 02:36:45.736
don't know that I would have
said that if if the scenarios

2418
02:36:45.736 --> 02:36:48.778
weren't a little more you know
they were just a little more

2419
02:36:48.778 --> 02:36:51.769
state so I think it's great and
I think that the way that.

2420
02:36:52.450 --> 02:36:55.778
You folks asked for our
participation with those kind of

2421
02:36:55.778 --> 02:36:59.515
four questions. And then each of
you brought a different flavor

2422
02:36:59.515 --> 02:37:03.019
to how you kind of facilitated
the conversation. There's so

2423
02:37:03.019 --> 02:37:06.639
much in this exercise that I'm
going to steal from you to use

2424
02:37:06.639 --> 02:37:10.084
for future facilitation groups
that I do. So thank you for

2425
02:37:10.084 --> 02:37:13.179
doing this. That's wonderful.
Thank you. That's very

2426
02:37:13.179 --> 02:37:13.879
encouraging.

2427
02:37:16.160 --> 02:37:19.403
Some thoughts from the virtual
world does this would be an

2428
02:37:19.403 --> 02:37:22.702
interesting staff exercise.
Let's see here. I got to scroll

2429
02:37:22.702 --> 02:37:25.835
back up. Love this type of
scenario planning because you

2430
02:37:25.835 --> 02:37:28.090
really see needs for now and the
future.

2431
02:37:29.900 --> 02:37:33.112
It was kind of like creating
stretch goals helps identify

2432
02:37:33.112 --> 02:37:36.159
gaps. This would be an
interesting to use, interesting

2433
02:37:36.159 --> 02:37:39.760
exercise to use at the SLA when
we were looking at our programs.

2434
02:37:39.760 --> 02:37:41.810
That's what we've got so far.
Great.

2435
02:37:44.840 --> 02:37:45.340
Right.

2436
02:37:46.380 --> 02:37:49.362
All right. Well, I appreciate
all the feedback and the

2437
02:37:49.362 --> 02:37:52.670
participation. You all were
wonderful. So thank you so much.

2438
02:38:00.140 --> 02:38:04.182
We have a surprise guest for
you. My boss, our deputy

2439
02:38:04.182 --> 02:38:08.749
director of libraries that I am
LS was actually an expert in

2440
02:38:08.749 --> 02:38:13.166
this. We weren't sure if it
would work out for her to join

2441
02:38:13.166 --> 02:38:17.657
us virtually, but she's here,
and Cindy Landram, who's been

2442
02:38:17.657 --> 02:38:22.074
with us for a number of years
now, just for the first time

2443
02:38:22.074 --> 02:38:24.770
last this past year, ran our
staff.

2444
02:38:24.840 --> 02:38:29.224
Your exercises like this. She's
an expert in this and is part of

2445
02:38:29.224 --> 02:38:33.406
the Futures School of thought.
There she is. Hello, Cindy. We

2446
02:38:33.406 --> 02:38:34.890
can see your face now.

2447
02:38:36.290 --> 02:38:40.686
It was great to to be with you
virtually. I'm really jealous

2448
02:38:40.686 --> 02:38:45.156
that I'm not with you in person,
but somebody has to keep the

2449
02:38:45.156 --> 02:38:49.264
lights on here in DC while
everybody else gets to go out

2450
02:38:49.264 --> 02:38:53.301
and play. So I am glad to be
with you and super jealous

2451
02:38:53.301 --> 02:38:57.770
because I did sneak in to the
virtual session and got to hear

2452
02:38:57.770 --> 02:39:02.455
all of you report out and I was
super stoked. The two hour super

2453
02:39:02.455 --> 02:39:06.420
stoked about this exercise is
Terry said we have been.

2454
02:39:06.490 --> 02:39:11.333
Running through these scenario
planning types of exercises and

2455
02:39:11.333 --> 02:39:15.792
futures work in our office of
Library services and I just

2456
02:39:15.792 --> 02:39:20.635
wanted to sort of stop in and
share some thoughts and insights

2457
02:39:20.635 --> 02:39:25.479
with you as you step away from
this and have some time to kind

2458
02:39:25.479 --> 02:39:30.322
of think about this process that
you just engaged in. First of

2459
02:39:30.322 --> 02:39:35.012
all, just say when Harry says
I'm an expert in this, I don't

2460
02:39:35.012 --> 02:39:36.549
know if I would say.

2461
02:39:36.640 --> 02:39:41.700
I'm an expert, but I definitely
am an evangelist of sorts. My

2462
02:39:41.700 --> 02:39:46.678
first engagement with future
thinking actually happened when

2463
02:39:46.678 --> 02:39:51.085
I was, when I like we young
librarian in the state of

2464
02:39:51.085 --> 02:39:55.574
Arizona, the state I call my
second home. And actually

2465
02:39:55.574 --> 02:40:00.144
futures thinking was a
competency that I had to be able

2466
02:40:00.144 --> 02:40:05.123
to demonstrate as a part of my
performance review. So I, you

2467
02:40:05.123 --> 02:40:07.490
know, I was in it very early.

2468
02:40:07.590 --> 02:40:11.572
And have continued in the future
space, both academically as well

2469
02:40:11.572 --> 02:40:15.072
as a matter of practice. And
pretty much every place that

2470
02:40:15.072 --> 02:40:18.693
I've been, I've done this work
or attempted to do this work

2471
02:40:18.693 --> 02:40:22.193
with my colleagues. And for
those of you who may know me,

2472
02:40:22.193 --> 02:40:25.753
you know I've been a lot of
places, so I've typed a lot of

2473
02:40:25.753 --> 02:40:28.650
States and have relationships
with many states.

2474
02:40:30.140 --> 02:40:34.447
And so I'm I'm just really happy
that this body is doing this

2475
02:40:34.447 --> 02:40:39.033
work and fully engaged in it and
special shout out to a number of

2476
02:40:39.033 --> 02:40:43.063
states that I know are really
leading large scale efforts

2477
02:40:43.063 --> 02:40:47.232
here. But I I wanted to just
share one of the reasons why I

2478
02:40:47.232 --> 02:40:48.970
kind of popped in to see.

2479
02:40:50.530 --> 02:40:54.946
How you guys were progressing
with the questions is because I

2480
02:40:54.946 --> 02:40:59.506
just wanted to to offer a bit of
some thoughts as you move this

2481
02:40:59.506 --> 02:41:03.851
forward or if you plan to or
desire to. You know, one of the

2482
02:41:03.851 --> 02:41:06.843
things I found really
interesting in your

2483
02:41:06.843 --> 02:41:11.260
presentations, umm, you know,
the the scenarios you got today

2484
02:41:11.260 --> 02:41:15.534
where you know wonder and awe
and wonder windfalls and they

2485
02:41:15.534 --> 02:41:19.666
were super, super positive and
on a few occasions I heard

2486
02:41:19.666 --> 02:41:20.449
people say.

2487
02:41:20.520 --> 02:41:24.857
I'm sorry, but I really need to
address this sort of not so

2488
02:41:24.857 --> 02:41:29.194
positive thing. But that's the
thing about the scenarios is

2489
02:41:29.194 --> 02:41:32.809
that whether it's this
catastrophic thing or this

2490
02:41:32.809 --> 02:41:37.291
wonderful thing that they can
actually kind of go either way.

2491
02:41:37.291 --> 02:41:41.556
They're not going to be 100%
positive or 100% negative and

2492
02:41:41.556 --> 02:41:46.255
they actually provide a variety
of opportunities for us to think

2493
02:41:46.255 --> 02:41:50.159
about something in very
different ways, but as you're

2494
02:41:50.159 --> 02:41:50.810
thinking.

2495
02:41:50.880 --> 02:41:54.857
About this and you walk away
from it and there are a lot of

2496
02:41:54.857 --> 02:41:58.701
great comments and positive
response to this. I also want

2497
02:41:58.701 --> 02:42:02.678
you to think about the things
that may be challenged you in

2498
02:42:02.678 --> 02:42:06.589
doing these scenarios. Or if
you're thinking about how you

2499
02:42:06.589 --> 02:42:10.566
may navigate this type of work
in your own organizations or

2500
02:42:10.566 --> 02:42:14.809
community, the libraries, some
of the challenges you might face

2501
02:42:14.809 --> 02:42:18.521
and some of the important
learnings that you might take

2502
02:42:18.521 --> 02:42:21.040
away. You know, one of the
pushbacks.

2503
02:42:21.110 --> 02:42:25.234
I used the receive particularly
early in my career, and

2504
02:42:25.234 --> 02:42:29.579
engagement in this work is I'll
just share a story. It was

2505
02:42:29.579 --> 02:42:33.997
around ebook, so the reading
scenario really resonates with

2506
02:42:33.997 --> 02:42:38.563
me. But it was about 10 years
ago. And you know, of course we

2507
02:42:38.563 --> 02:42:42.540
were at another sort of
interesting juncture with our

2508
02:42:42.540 --> 02:42:46.738
friends in the publishing
industry and ebooks, and I was

2509
02:42:46.738 --> 02:42:51.010
sort of in the speculative space
thinking about the what.

2510
02:42:51.330 --> 02:42:55.801
You know what if the Big 5
became the big one, you know,

2511
02:42:55.801 --> 02:43:00.429
and I had a library director
say, well, you cannot predict

2512
02:43:00.429 --> 02:43:05.449
the future. And I was like you
are correct, I cannot, but I can

2513
02:43:05.449 --> 02:43:10.078
create the future. And that's
really the thing that is the

2514
02:43:10.078 --> 02:43:15.020
take away. And I want to kind of
break down those two real two

2515
02:43:15.020 --> 02:43:19.883
really important words in that
response, I and create. And so

2516
02:43:19.883 --> 02:43:22.080
I'm going to start with the.

2517
02:43:22.160 --> 02:43:27.304
I because the eye is all of us
and it's really important when

2518
02:43:27.304 --> 02:43:32.613
we're engaging in scenario type
work or you know there are tons

2519
02:43:32.613 --> 02:43:38.006
of other methods in the futures
work and for strategic foresight

2520
02:43:38.006 --> 02:43:42.901
space that we can use. But it's
really important for us to

2521
02:43:42.901 --> 02:43:47.880
understand where we sit in a
particular future and where we

2522
02:43:47.880 --> 02:43:52.360
sit in our own engagement with
the future in terms of

2523
02:43:52.360 --> 02:43:53.190
ourselves.

2524
02:43:53.350 --> 02:43:58.256
So you know, you may have had
some discomfort or you may find

2525
02:43:58.256 --> 02:44:02.847
that others may have some
discomfort, and that's actually

2526
02:44:02.847 --> 02:44:06.883
super natural. There are
neurological studies that

2527
02:44:06.883 --> 02:44:11.790
indicate that our relationship
to our future self is like how

2528
02:44:11.790 --> 02:44:16.618
we relate to a stranger. It's
like we can see ourselves, but

2529
02:44:16.618 --> 02:44:21.446
we don't know ourselves. And so
that can often impact how we

2530
02:44:21.446 --> 02:44:23.899
sort of engage with the future.

2531
02:44:24.000 --> 02:44:29.133
And also there are environmental
issues and sociocultural issues

2532
02:44:29.133 --> 02:44:33.794
that can impact our thinking,
our ability to think in this

2533
02:44:33.794 --> 02:44:38.849
way. So, for example, if someone
grew up in a home where no one

2534
02:44:38.849 --> 02:44:43.983
asked them, what do you want to
be when you grow up? Or they had

2535
02:44:43.983 --> 02:44:49.038
a health concern that you know
they heard, that you know you're

2536
02:44:49.038 --> 02:44:53.540
never going to live past a
certain age, it can be really

2537
02:44:53.540 --> 02:44:54.330
difficult.

2538
02:44:54.400 --> 02:44:58.582
For people to engage with a
future that they've never been

2539
02:44:58.582 --> 02:45:02.835
exposed to or thought about or
particularly if they haven't

2540
02:45:02.835 --> 02:45:07.443
thought about themselves in the
future, but I think someone said

2541
02:45:07.443 --> 02:45:11.980
this earlier and it's absolutely
true. It can also work to your

2542
02:45:11.980 --> 02:45:16.517
advantage. I heard someone say,
oh, I don't have to think about

2543
02:45:16.517 --> 02:45:20.841
that because I'll be retired.
Well, I have. That is so true.

2544
02:45:20.841 --> 02:45:24.740
I, you know, worked with
scenarios that are 10 and 15.

2545
02:45:24.820 --> 02:45:30.454
2020 years into the future and
oftentimes I get the best, most

2546
02:45:30.454 --> 02:45:35.731
creative responses from people
because they're like, guess

2547
02:45:35.731 --> 02:45:41.456
what? That's going to be on you
because I won't be here. And so

2548
02:45:41.456 --> 02:45:46.822
it does allow you to let your
imagination run free, even if

2549
02:45:46.822 --> 02:45:52.546
you recognize that you may be a
part of setting the stage for a

2550
02:45:52.546 --> 02:45:55.230
particular scenario to evolve.

2551
02:45:55.340 --> 02:45:58.723
It's all different ball game
where you realize, oh, that's

2552
02:45:58.723 --> 02:46:00.730
going to be somebody else, not
me.

2553
02:46:02.340 --> 02:46:06.401
But the other thing I wanna
address in that I can create is

2554
02:46:06.401 --> 02:46:10.192
this idea of creating the
future. And it seems like I'm

2555
02:46:10.192 --> 02:46:14.524
going to put on my cave and I'm
going to do this. It's going to

2556
02:46:14.524 --> 02:46:18.315
be me and I'm going to change
the world. And it really,

2557
02:46:18.315 --> 02:46:22.241
obviously it's not. There's a
lot of moving parts when we

2558
02:46:22.241 --> 02:46:26.370
think about the future and how
we create conditions that are

2559
02:46:26.370 --> 02:46:30.432
conducive to it. But we can
influence, we can shape, we can

2560
02:46:30.432 --> 02:46:32.260
think about the future and.

2561
02:46:32.350 --> 02:46:38.126
Even our everyday decisions how
does this decision, how might

2562
02:46:38.126 --> 02:46:44.090
this decision play out and say
five years and also they give us

2563
02:46:44.090 --> 02:46:50.053
scenario. Sometimes I would get
called into a, how shall I say,

2564
02:46:50.053 --> 02:46:56.110
come up with all the reasons why
something shouldn't happen. For

2565
02:46:56.110 --> 02:47:02.073
example, because looking forward
a particular decision may have

2566
02:47:02.073 --> 02:47:04.030
implications that we.

2567
02:47:04.130 --> 02:47:07.796
You know, maybe haven't
considered, but the thing I

2568
02:47:07.796 --> 02:47:12.027
really want to leave you with,
the thing that I want you to

2569
02:47:12.027 --> 02:47:15.976
take away from this, is to
really a way that we sort of

2570
02:47:15.976 --> 02:47:20.560
think about creating the future
is by paying attention and being

2571
02:47:20.560 --> 02:47:24.862
curious. I don't know if any of
you have had this experience

2572
02:47:24.862 --> 02:47:28.811
where you read an article in
Library journal or you saw

2573
02:47:28.811 --> 02:47:33.465
something at your local news, or
you overheard a conversation and

2574
02:47:33.465 --> 02:47:34.099
you went.

2575
02:47:34.300 --> 02:47:34.810
Stop.

2576
02:47:36.970 --> 02:47:41.496
And oftentimes we kind of
dismiss the hunt and the home,

2577
02:47:41.496 --> 02:47:46.499
but futures work allows you to
engage the hub and the home. So

2578
02:47:46.499 --> 02:47:51.026
thinking about something that
you might see that sort of

2579
02:47:51.026 --> 02:47:54.599
sparks curiosity about what
would happen if.

2580
02:47:55.420 --> 02:48:00.636
That particular thing actually
kind of took hold and and became

2581
02:48:00.636 --> 02:48:05.770
a thing and what does it mean
for our state library? What does

2582
02:48:05.770 --> 02:48:10.824
it mean for our local libraries?
What does it mean for people

2583
02:48:10.824 --> 02:48:15.958
that work in libraries or the
communities that library serves?

2584
02:48:15.958 --> 02:48:21.174
I think it's really important to
allow yourself the space to be

2585
02:48:21.174 --> 02:48:25.250
curious and to allow yourself to
engage the hunt.

2586
02:48:25.320 --> 02:48:29.865
And the and the home, but also
the thing about, well, OK, what

2587
02:48:29.865 --> 02:48:34.338
kinds of things might be driving
these things? I, I, as I was

2588
02:48:34.338 --> 02:48:38.883
sitting in the virtual session
of the conversation, shifted to

2589
02:48:38.883 --> 02:48:43.572
like, well, how did we get here?
And that is really an important

2590
02:48:43.572 --> 02:48:48.261
conversation to have when you're
doing the futures work, because

2591
02:48:48.261 --> 02:48:52.734
when you set a future state,
it's really important to kind of

2592
02:48:52.734 --> 02:48:56.270
backtrack and think about the
things that might.

2593
02:48:56.350 --> 02:49:00.539
Have gotten you there, or the
things that you might put in

2594
02:49:00.539 --> 02:49:04.728
place that could shake that
future. In a dystopian sort of

2595
02:49:04.728 --> 02:49:09.343
future, you might want to think
about constraints that you might

2596
02:49:09.343 --> 02:49:13.106
want to engage that might
curtail the growth of that

2597
02:49:13.106 --> 02:49:17.224
dystopian future. But I'm going
to, I know that I am. The

2598
02:49:17.224 --> 02:49:21.342
difference between you all
catching a flight and also you

2599
02:49:21.342 --> 02:49:25.815
all may be going to dinner if
you're your flight is later. But

2600
02:49:25.815 --> 02:49:27.520
the thing I really want.

2601
02:49:27.610 --> 02:49:32.005
To impress upon you as one is
you're thinking about this and

2602
02:49:32.005 --> 02:49:36.689
engaging this and thinking about
this experience. The number one

2603
02:49:36.689 --> 02:49:40.940
thing is to stay curious and
allow yourself to think about

2604
02:49:40.940 --> 02:49:45.552
what could be. And you're right.
When people tell you you can't

2605
02:49:45.552 --> 02:49:49.875
predict the future, you're
right, you can't predict it. But

2606
02:49:49.875 --> 02:49:54.343
there are enough things around
us that are happening globally

2607
02:49:54.343 --> 02:49:57.730
and our local communities and
nationally that.

2608
02:49:57.810 --> 02:50:03.112
Really give us an opportunity to
think broadly, to think forward,

2609
02:50:03.112 --> 02:50:07.611
but also to think about how we
can shape the future and

2610
02:50:07.611 --> 02:50:12.511
basically influence a future
that we would like to be a part

2611
02:50:12.511 --> 02:50:17.251
of and that we would like to
live in and that we'd like to

2612
02:50:17.251 --> 02:50:21.669
leave for others. So I'm going
to leave you with that.

2613
02:50:22.560 --> 02:50:26.696
As you head off into the skies
or if you're driving or however

2614
02:50:26.696 --> 02:50:30.569
you got to this conference and
thank you so much for being

2615
02:50:30.569 --> 02:50:34.443
participants. And I want to give
a special shout out to my

2616
02:50:34.443 --> 02:50:38.251
colleagues and grants, the
states because they always put

2617
02:50:38.251 --> 02:50:42.387
on an engaging and informative
conference and they always have

2618
02:50:42.387 --> 02:50:46.260
their finger on the pulse of
what's important in libraries

2619
02:50:46.260 --> 02:50:50.134
and what's important to our
colleagues. And I call you all

2620
02:50:50.134 --> 02:50:53.810
our partners in the state
library. So thank you so much

2621
02:50:53.810 --> 02:50:54.730
for your time.

2622
02:50:54.840 --> 02:50:57.120
And safe travels to you all.

2623
02:51:04.470 --> 02:51:08.571
Thank you, Cindy, and thank you
for holding down the Fort for

2624
02:51:08.571 --> 02:51:09.071
us.

2625
02:51:10.330 --> 02:51:15.118
I have to say the Cindy Landram
era at IMS and and you should

2626
02:51:15.118 --> 02:51:19.751
know she is the one who will be
in place after our director

2627
02:51:19.751 --> 02:51:24.694
changes course. So she will be
in a seat to make decisions that

2628
02:51:24.694 --> 02:51:29.713
Crosby is making at the moment.
And the Cindy Landram era at IMS

2629
02:51:29.713 --> 02:51:34.192
has been wonderful. She is an
amazing manager, an amazing

2630
02:51:34.192 --> 02:51:39.135
librarian with lots of amazing
experience and we just felt like

2631
02:51:39.135 --> 02:51:40.680
this was the moment.

2632
02:51:40.750 --> 02:51:45.012
That we had to bring her in and
introduce her to all of you and

2633
02:51:45.012 --> 02:51:48.874
hopefully we can do a little
more of this with her in the

2634
02:51:48.874 --> 02:51:52.936
future. I'm going to grab the
appreciation wall. Hang on one

2635
02:51:52.936 --> 02:51:57.132
second before you take off your
flights because we just have a

2636
02:51:57.132 --> 02:52:01.260
few closing things that we'd
like to say. And while I'm doing

2637
02:52:01.260 --> 02:52:05.456
this, go ahead and get out your
survey if you haven't finished

2638
02:52:05.456 --> 02:52:09.118
it already or taken the
opportunity to wrap it up. And

2639
02:52:09.118 --> 02:52:11.250
please take the time to do this.

2640
02:52:11.410 --> 02:52:15.485
Once you're done, we'll have a
place at the registration desk

2641
02:52:15.485 --> 02:52:19.824
for you to drop them off, and we
take this feedback so seriously,

2642
02:52:19.824 --> 02:52:23.899
we iterate every single year
based on what you tell us. We're

2643
02:52:23.899 --> 02:52:27.975
not out just to get the kudos.
We want all of it. We want you

2644
02:52:27.975 --> 02:52:31.787
to be real and tell us what we
need to do differently. So

2645
02:52:31.787 --> 02:52:34.220
please be honest and we will
adjust.

2646
02:52:34.970 --> 02:52:35.800
Oh, thank you.

2647
02:52:42.130 --> 02:52:46.473
OK. So we've had the last couple
of days and appreciation wall,

2648
02:52:46.473 --> 02:52:48.510
which is a big piece of paper.

2649
02:52:51.250 --> 02:52:56.016
But it looks like this for those
of you tuning in virtually, and

2650
02:52:56.016 --> 02:53:00.268
there aren't too, too many of
these appreciations. So I'm

2651
02:53:00.268 --> 02:53:04.521
going to go ahead and just read
through them while you're

2652
02:53:04.521 --> 02:53:09.287
filling out your surveys. And I
love this scene from Dorothy and

2653
02:53:09.287 --> 02:53:13.833
The Wizard of Oz where you're
like, Hail Dorothy. This is how

2654
02:53:13.833 --> 02:53:16.400
I feel about like hail
colleagues.

2655
02:53:17.290 --> 02:53:22.080
We haven't killed any wicked
witches, but you're awesome, so.

2656
02:53:24.380 --> 02:53:28.392
First, appreciation. I'm reading
the mentor program is

2657
02:53:28.392 --> 02:53:32.770
invaluable. I couldn't do my job
without Wendy Coplin. Yay.

2658
02:53:37.120 --> 02:53:41.704
Shout out to Michael Gorick for
supporting me in my first PLS

2659
02:53:41.704 --> 02:53:45.770
Public Library survey
administration from Laura Hicks.

2660
02:53:45.770 --> 02:53:46.880
Thank you both.

2661
02:53:50.180 --> 02:53:55.271
Thanks Maura from New Jersey
about the light rail details

2662
02:53:55.271 --> 02:53:57.730
from Carmen in North Dakota.

2663
02:53:59.160 --> 02:54:01.230
I think we all learned something
from Laura.

2664
02:54:02.740 --> 02:54:07.555
OK, thanks to Claire. Her quick
thinking and hometown knowledge

2665
02:54:07.555 --> 02:54:11.694
helped us have a truly
delightful dumpling dinner last

2666
02:54:11.694 --> 02:54:13.350
night. Thanks, Claire.

2667
02:54:18.410 --> 02:54:22.102
That is, that is an IMLS
appreciation. I may or may not

2668
02:54:22.102 --> 02:54:22.630
read it.

2669
02:54:24.580 --> 02:54:28.609
Rachel Cook, thank you for the
kind words and the Oscar

2670
02:54:28.609 --> 02:54:32.998
nomination. So glad you could
join us in person. Your friend

2671
02:54:32.998 --> 02:54:34.150
in Texas, Erica.

2672
02:54:37.540 --> 02:54:42.392
Feels like summer camp. I don't.
I don't want to send you home.

2673
02:54:42.392 --> 02:54:47.320
OK, so this is A2 parter. So to
Debbie in Arkansas. And husband,

2674
02:54:47.320 --> 02:54:52.249
thank you for walking with me or
letting me walk with you to the

2675
02:54:52.249 --> 02:54:56.874
hotel. So glad I ran into you on
the train. I would still be

2676
02:54:56.874 --> 02:55:01.120
sitting on the corner of 4th and
spring if not for you.

2677
02:55:02.390 --> 02:55:06.732
I will be forever grateful your
neighbor in Texas, Eric, comment

2678
02:55:06.732 --> 02:55:07.232
cormag.

2679
02:55:11.950 --> 02:55:15.990
This is my first time at a
grants estates and everyone has

2680
02:55:15.990 --> 02:55:20.168
been so incredibly welcoming. I
appreciate all of you. Thank

2681
02:55:20.168 --> 02:55:22.840
you. Jessica Auto in Wyoming. So
nice.

2682
02:55:25.310 --> 02:55:29.572
All right. And to the Animalist
staff for your warm welcome to a

2683
02:55:29.572 --> 02:55:33.572
neophyte coordinator. That's a
great phrase. We should brand

2684
02:55:33.572 --> 02:55:34.072
that.

2685
02:55:35.370 --> 02:55:37.900
You started my conference out
just right. We're glad.

2686
02:55:39.340 --> 02:55:43.236
Yay. All right, successful
appreciation wall. We'll do it

2687
02:55:43.236 --> 02:55:43.736
again.

2688
02:55:44.520 --> 02:55:45.110
Umm.

2689
02:55:51.970 --> 02:55:56.373
We're getting ready to leave and
I just want to say it's an

2690
02:55:56.373 --> 02:56:00.190
understatement that we enjoy
being with you at this

2691
02:56:00.190 --> 02:56:04.814
conference. It makes our whole
year worthwhile. Seeing you and

2692
02:56:04.814 --> 02:56:09.071
seeing evidence of your amazing
ARPA funded projects, for

2693
02:56:09.071 --> 02:56:13.622
example, just makes our federal
hearts beat with Joy. And the

2694
02:56:13.622 --> 02:56:18.320
same will be true of site visits
as we kick off this new cycle.

2695
02:56:18.420 --> 02:56:22.192
And go and spend more time with
you in the field. We're so

2696
02:56:22.192 --> 02:56:24.430
excited to get to know you
better.

2697
02:56:25.740 --> 02:56:29.699
The welcoming and helpful nature
of this Community means that

2698
02:56:29.699 --> 02:56:33.595
even though we're disembarking
now from the grants to states

2699
02:56:33.595 --> 02:56:36.980
conference bus, we still have
each other to lean on.

2700
02:56:37.620 --> 02:56:41.550
So thank you all for upholding
this program with Integrity and

2701
02:56:41.550 --> 02:56:45.293
making a difference with federal
and state funds across the

2702
02:56:45.293 --> 02:56:45.793
nation.

2703
02:56:47.040 --> 02:56:51.060
There's often a specter of
fraud, waste and abuse when it

2704
02:56:51.060 --> 02:56:55.012
comes to federal programming,
especially in this time of

2705
02:56:55.012 --> 02:56:59.102
stimulus funds. And I can say
honestly, we we really don't

2706
02:56:59.102 --> 02:57:03.401
worry about that. And I'm LS.
It's because all of you do such

2707
02:57:03.401 --> 02:57:07.491
a good job as pass through
entities monitoring that money,

2708
02:57:07.491 --> 02:57:11.928
making sure it is handled with
care. And the things that we get

2709
02:57:11.928 --> 02:57:16.157
to worry about, conversely, are
like, are we amplifying your

2710
02:57:16.157 --> 02:57:16.920
great work?

2711
02:57:17.510 --> 02:57:21.030
So that is a wonderful thing to
have to worry about.

2712
02:57:22.360 --> 02:57:26.691
So click your heels together,
everyone. We're sending you off

2713
02:57:26.691 --> 02:57:30.883
from Emerald City back home
until we can be together again.

2714
02:57:30.883 --> 02:57:32.559
And until then, be well.

2715
02:57:33.740 --> 02:57:34.360
Thanks.

2716
02:57:40.790 --> 02:57:44.570
Safe travels and virtual folks
we'll see on the other side.