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Before we launch out into Books nine
through twelve, Odysseus's famous

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adventures there's one other piece of Book
eight that we'll really pay some close

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attention.
In there, we see a figure of a poet,

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Demodocus makes a, an appearance.
And in focusing on this character, we're

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going to get a little window into what it
might've been like for this guy, Homer in

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his own world.
We have a kind of vision through Homer's

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eyes of how a poet functions in the
society through the character.

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Of Demodocus.
Very useful thing to just pay a little bit

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of attention to.
So, we know from Homer's portrayal of

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Demodocus that ancient poets had a bardic
role in their society.

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They sung songs that were there in order
to entertain.

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They were great entertainers.
They were part of the retinue of wealthy,

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aristocratic people.
They hung around after dinner.

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They had some light musical accompaniment.
They may well have had dancers

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accompanying the different stories that
they told.

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And they were there in a, a mode to tell
episodes from famous mythic past.

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So, for example, in this story, we have
Odysseys himself asking for, hey, could

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you play the one about the Trojan Horse?
And Demodocus answers his call, picks up

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the, the, the, his musical instrument, and
goes ahead and tells the story of the

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Trojan Horse, in which Odysseys figures
prominently, provokes the, the great hero

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to tears, and sets off the course of
events that leads [unknown] to try to call

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him out and figure out ways to try to
identify this man.

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So, a, a, a poet after dinner will listen
to requests, will tell episodes from great

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ancient narrative tales and has a, a, a
role as an entertainer in the court

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retinue of a, of aristocratic peoples.
They're also known for a few feats.

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They're able to do things that are a
little bit extraordinary.

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Two things I'm going to focus on here.
Number one memory.

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An ancient poet could sit down and recite
from memory huge chunks of poetry and

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recite them in perfect metrical cadence
with musical accompaniment in way that was

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stunning.
These people had extraordinary powers of

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memory and beguiled their audiences with
their ability to recall details and tell

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things in a beautiful way.
Secondly poets exhibited a certain kind of

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wonderousness in their ability to take
some emotional state, that they themselves

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may feel, and impersonate, and exhibit as
they are performing their poetry.

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And then, transfer that to large groups of
people.

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So, almost by magic, they can internalize
some subjective state and transmit it to

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other people.
Anyone who's been in a room where a

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charismatic figure is working their wiles,
already knows that this feel like a kind

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of magical power.
The bard was thought to have the magical

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power residing in them of having other
people around being moved by his or her

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song be affected by the song that was
being sung.

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Some people in antiquity compared this
power to magnetism something extraordinary

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action at a distance that made a, a,
certain subjective state and the poet kind

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of be like a contagion and spread around
the crowd around them.

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Now in looking at this figure of Demodocus
yes, he gives us a window into how Homer

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imagined ancient bards to act.
There are also some interesting pieces we

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can look at, and we look at the traditions
that surround Demodocus and the stories

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that he tells.
You recall that one of his stories in

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perhaps, Demodocus' most famous story, not
the Trojan Horse, it's this seen where

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Aphrodite has an affair with Ares to the
detriment of her loving husband,

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Hephaestus.
This story unfolds in detail that gives us

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pause and makes us feel a little bit sorry
for Hephaestus.

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Ares comes along and seduces Aphrodite,
she gives in, and they go ahead and have

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this amorous tryst.
Helios, the god who inhabits the sun sees

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everything, since he can see everything
that's happening on Earth, and he goes

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over and tells Hephaestus.
Hephaestus then is angry over what's

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happening, of course he then goes makes a
special netting made out of, of very fine

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metal, metal.
He is perfect at working with different

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kinds of metals and makes a trap that not
even gods can escape from.

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So, next time Ares and Aphrodite get into
the bed they get trapped by Hephaestus'

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net.
And all the gods come around and start to

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laugh.
They laugh at this awful scene, talking

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about oh, ho, ho, ho poor Hephaestus.
Look, Ares is having sex with Aphrodite.

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Chuckle, chuckle, rib, rib.
And then one or two of them says, oh, boy

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wouldn't it be nice to be Ares right now
because you could have this beautiful

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queen to yourself and so on and so on.
And it's a, a story that is has, has a

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certain edginess to it.
It's not quite it pushes the boundaries of

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propriety.
And if it does to our eyes, well, it

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surely did to ancient eyes as well.
And, in fact, the tryst of Ares and

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Aphrodite was something that was,
fascinating to ancient commentators.

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They were trying to figure out, what the
heck is this doing in here?

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This doesn't seem all that it doesn't add
anything to the story.

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What's Homer trying to tell us with this
tryst of, of Ares, the God of War and

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Aphrodite, the Goddess of Love.
And what's Hephaestus' role in all this?

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Well, the allegorists have a field day
with this.

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They jump on in and claim, in antiquity,
that there's all kinds of hidden

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subterranean messages in this story of the
affair of Ares and Aphrodite.

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One of them, Heraclitus from the first
Century CE this is not the Heraclitus from

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the pre-Socratic philosopher this is
commentator on Homer's poetry, and

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Heraclitus is from the first century CE
tells us that the union of Aphrodite, love

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and Ares of strife, is, is actually the
union of love and strife.

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This is a story Aphrodite narrates as the
story of the union of love and strife.

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There's laughter, surely, when the gods
gather round, but it's divine laughter

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because it's a cause for joy when love and
strife come together.

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Never mind Heraclitus that they seem
clearly to be laughing out of a

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snickering, sardonic kind of emotion, not
out of joy, but it didn't matter to

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Heraclitus.
Then another idea that he forwarded,

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claimed that this whole thing was this
whole story, was a comment on the art of

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blacksmithing.
So, we have fire, Hephaestus who softens

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iron, Ares by capturing him, and then we
need to apply Aphrodite, or sorry, we need

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to apply passion, here represented by
Aphrodite to the work in order to be good

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blacksmiths.
And at the end, remember, it's Poseidon

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who calls everything off and all the other
gods are snickering and Poseidon says, no,

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no, that's enough.
Let's, you know let them free, Hephaestus

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and let them go.
So, Heraclitus reads that as an indication

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that water, in a form of Poseidon holes
the iron out and cools it off.

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That's Heracles view of tryst of Aries and
Aphrodite.

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Another commentator from the first century
a man named Cornutus tells us that when

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Aries and Aphrodite get together it's kind
of adultery.

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So fair enough and he says the brutal and
the violent do not correspond well with

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the cheery and the gentle nor is one
naturally intertwined with another but

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there is a noble offspring because the
legend had it later on that after Ares

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and, and Aphrodite got together, there was
indeed an issue from their romantic

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relationship and this is the god the deity
Harmony.

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So, we have, in Cornutus' reading yes,
it's a representation of adultery but in

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the end harmony.
Something good comes out of the brutal and

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the violent and the cheery and the gentle
coming together.

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Finally, the author of the life of Homer,
an unknown person who was known in

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antiquity as Plutarch, but that's not
surely the right name.

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But the, the unknown author of the Life
of, of Life of Homer in the first century

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CE, writes this, Ares and Aphrodite are
love and strife and they sometimes get

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together then there is harmony and
sometimes they're apart.

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Helios denounces them, Hephaestus chains
them, and Poseidon water, frees them.

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He claims that it is clear from this that
the hot, dry essence and it's opposite the

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cold, wet one, sometimes draw the universe
together, sometimes pull it apart.

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So, there are lots of interpretations that
get kicked off by this story that

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Demodocus tells us of Ares and Aphrodite.
And, in fact, as this probably still the

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case today, it is the parts of it ancient
myths that seem to be the strangest, that

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are the most disturbing to us, that are
the most provocative the most unsettling.

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These are the parts of myth that draw the
most attention and get the most work of,

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of commentary as people try to figure out
what the heck just happened.

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Here's an example from antiquity of a myth
that gets told, retold, interpreted and

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reinterpreted.
We're about to kick into some of the

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strangest parts of Homer's Odyssey Books9
through twelve are going to introduce us

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to things that make out the tryst of Ares
and Aphrodite look like kid stuff.

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So, hang onto your seats.
It gets ugly for awhile but don't worry,

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Odysseus will bear up.
He will suffer but he will also endure.