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As if we needed anymore indication from
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to, to grow up a little.
It actually comes out of Athena's mouth in

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her disguise.
She's standing next to him on page 87 and

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says you must not cling to your boyhood
any longer, it's time you were a man.

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So, Telemachus realizes it's time to
change, somethings got to give.

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It spurs him into his action of failed
attempt to rile the suitors in his of

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beginning of Book two.
And then, he gets ready to haul off on

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this tour with mentor as his guide,
Athena.

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And when he does head out on this tour,
he's going to learn things.

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Travels a way for him to gain knowledge.
And in his tour round these great capitals

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in books three and four, what Telemachus
is really going to do is take a journey

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into a past.
And this past is already something that

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has a kind of grandeur to it.
He'll look at Pylos and this wonderful

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wealthy citadel of, of, of that we see
with Nestor.

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And then, we're going to move on to Sparta
and see Menelaus and Helen of Troy

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herself.
We're going to see grand figures that are

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already a mythic proportion according to
how Telemachus marshal his engagement with

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them.
I thought in making this turn to this

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grand past such as we're going to see in
three and four, I might just toss up here

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a slide of a famous probably our most
famous ancient citadel from this time, the

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citadel of Mycenae, Agamemnon's palace
This is so-called lion gate and it has an

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air of majesty to it.
And, thinking back to the time when this

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was built back in the first early, you
know, early, early, early times first

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millennium BCE and even before these
citadels emerged up out of the out of the,

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the plain around us and at a time, when
there were simple agrarian folk in most

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parts of the world.
There would be these grand citadels.

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And in the memory of time as the citadels
age and as history builds up around them,

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and events take place that involve these
places, eventually people start to think,

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my gosh, how in the world did they build
those things, anyway, all those centuries

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ago?
And when they did that, they started down

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a path of imaging that their ancestors
were greater than they were.

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They even called these stones, Cyclopean
stones because they felt there was no way

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a human being could have moved them and
they are kind of things that only a

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Cyclops could move.
So, there was a, a, a kind of, of mythic

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orientation toward their deep past that
the Greeks already had during Homer's

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time.
The, the impulse here to look at your

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ancestors as being much greater than you
were leads us to our first universal law

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in the course.
I'm going to give you a few universal laws

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in the course guarantee to be universal
money back guarantee.

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And how much money do we pay for a course
there anyway?

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Anyway, universal laws are money back
guarantee.

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Universal law number one, nostalgia is the
most powerful force in the universe.

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When people are looking back to their past
they always imagine that it must have been

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better.
Seems to be something that is exhibited

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across time and surely the Greeks are
susceptible to this form of nostalgia as

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well.
So, Telemachus has his cue, it's time to

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go and off he goes.
He's going to visit two amazing places.

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Athena's going to bring him along.
He's going to see Nestor's coastal city.

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And when he does, he's going to move from
the his edge of his island of Ithaca and

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have a trip down by boat to Pylos.
Now remember, when he arrives by boat in

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Pylos, what does he see there on the
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There are nine divisions of 500 people
each.

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So, already, we've got 4,500 people on a
beach, that's probably going to arrest

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your attention.
And now in case, we haven't gotten your

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attention, each of those groups of 500,
each of those nine groups of 500 is

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slaughtering nine bulls.
So, we've got 81 bulls being slaughtered

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simultaneously on a beach.
If that doesn't grab your attention, then

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you probably need some smelling salts.
What Telemachus sees there absolutely is

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just extraordinary to him.
The grandeur of this scene something

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amazing.
And the display of wealth, the conspicuous

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display of wealth.
81 bulls during Telemachus' time is, a, a

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fortune to last, you know the equivalent
of a fortune that could last a huge chunk

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of a lifetime.
And yet, here they are just being expended

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in this one event on the shores as he
goes.

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So, we know we're entering into a world of
grandeur.

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And now, keeping in mind that this is a
world of grandeur, we're always going to

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be remembering, although it's going to
take Telemachus a little while to remember

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himself, that this should be the kind of
grandeur that exists in his household.

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And instead, these vagabonds are running
riot across it.

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From Pylos and then, we go over land, over
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And at that point, we're going to meet
Menelaus, Agamemnon's very brother, and

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Helen of Troy, that face that launched a
thousand ships.

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We're going to have a private audience
with her through Telemachus' eyes, we're

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going to see Helen.
Now, through this trip through this

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traveling that Telemachus is going to do,
it's a way for him to gain knowledge.

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And at the same time, he's mirroring in a
smaller, more controlled way, the kind of

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adventure that his father is on.
For each of them the experiential

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knowledge that's gained through traveling
is something that's profound, that's

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powerful, that's life-shaping that gives
them tools, and that allows them to

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advance in their own lives.
Travel is a deeply powerful tool according

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to the scale of values.
So as he gets ready to make his journey,

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makes his connection gears up his boat,
gets his provisions, makes his way to

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Pylos, sees this grandeur, he sits down
and has his audience with Nestor.

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When he gets to Sparta, he'll sit down and
have his audience with Menelaus and with,

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with Helen.
Now, at each turn, the, the elders sit

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back and listen to Telemachus' version of
events, and the first thing they do, when

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they hear what is happening, is to react
the way, presumably, we're being taught a

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person should react, they don't just feel
sorry for Telemachus, they don't pat him

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on the head and give him some Kleenex,
they're angry.

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They're angry.
The constant exhibition of Telemachus's

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elders after he tells them this story is
to feel anger.

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We see this multiple times as the story is
being told.

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Athena has already shown it page 85, as
[unknown] mentor, she is outraged and she

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talks about how shameful this exhibition
is.

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On page 134, we hear from Menelaus, we
also hear from Nestor, that this is

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shameful what's happening.
Anger comes up when they hear this.

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The tour is partly an education for
Telemahus to be schooled in how his

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emotions ought to be working.
His emotions need some calibration.

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They need some changing.
Oftentimes, I think we think that emotions

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are just kind of natural responses to
things and that just by nature you are

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going to feel things like embarrassment,
or anger, or joy or what, whatever it is.

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But the stance that Homer is taking here
in the Odyssey is a little bit different.

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It seems that Telemachus actually needs
some schooling in this.

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There's an acculturation that he needs to
do to know that it is right now to feel

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anger.
That is the kind of emotional response he

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should be having.
Each person that he talks to expresses

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that.
Then also, at each turn, we hear a

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particular name that's brought up.
When we're talking to Nestor on page 113,

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the name Orestes comes up.
Athena disguised as mentor on page 115

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talks about Orestes.
Menaleus, page 141.

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After hearing the story of what's
happening in Telemachus household, talks

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about Orestes, and in fact, casting our
mind back for a second, back to book one

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Zeus in his introductory remarks right at
the very beginning, talks about Orestes

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right on page 78 in the translation.
At each point a person who mentions

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Orestes is an older authority figure.
They're reacting to this expression of

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powerlessness.
In Zeus' case, it's the idea that people

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just toss up their hands and it just feels
like everything is just faded and it's the

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gods fault.
Instead, take action like that Orestes

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did.
The mentor Nestor and Menelaus each after

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they hear the story that Telemachus tells
and of his own pathetic powerlessness in

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the situation say, oh, have you heard the
one about Orestes?

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Now, what are they referring to?
What is this situation involving Orestes?

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Well, it just so happens that the, one of
the famous stories of homecoming is

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something that's already percolating in
the background of Homer's Odyssey.

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When Agamemnon famously makes his way
home, he gets home pretty quickly.

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It's not a struggle for him to get a ship
back to his to his citadel.

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But when he does, he sees his wife.
Hello and I'm, I'm back home.

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He doesn't realize that his wife has taken
up a liaison with a lover and that the two

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of them go ahead and murder Agamemnon
shortly after he arrives.

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Now, this is an awful thing, Clytemnestra,
Agamemnon's wife, and her lover killed the

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head of household, Agamemnon, her husband.
Now, it just so happens that within the

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Greek ethical code, if someone kills your
father as a son or a daughter, it is now

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your duty to kill your father's killer.
Well now, what happens in Agamemnon's

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family?
Agamemnon's own son and daughter are

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responsible now for taking revenge against
this killer, which means for them, killing

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their own mother.
This is a nasty business.

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This is ugly, and this is awful.
In Homer's version of it, the part that's

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really emphasized is the lover part,
Aegisthus.

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It's, he's talked about as the one most
responsible for the death of Agamemnon.

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So, Orestes goes ahead and takes care of
business and kills Aegisthus.

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But it's a messy story.
It's already messy in Homer's time.

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And if you get even messier when we
concentrate on it in our out weeks of the

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class, we're going to turn to, after we
turn to classical Athenian tragedy we're

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going to see the story of Agamemnon told
through Aeschylus' eyes.

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My goodness, that's going to make my hairs
grow.

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But when Homer focuses on it, what he
means to point is, Orestes in a situation

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that was very ugly and very nasty, he had
the gumption to do what needed to be done.

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Even in a situation where that was nasty,
nasty business, Orestes, did, what needed

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to be done.
Orestes and the story of run, cycling

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around Agamemnon show up multiple times in
Homer's Odyssey.

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And in relation to Telemachus, they always
show up as this kind of coda tom that's

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placed on the end of Telemachus feeling
sorry for himself in the code that comes

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from a more, from an older more
experienced person saying, you know what,

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even in the nasty business that Orestes
had to take care of, his house was all

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messed up and Orestes came in and took
care of business.

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So when Telemachus is being schooled on
how he should be reacting to the world,

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he's being introduced generally to the
grand and aristocratic world that is his

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birthright, that he ought to be enforcing
to be his own on the island of Ithaca,

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he's being introduced to an emotional
response.

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He's being enculturated to the right
emotional response.

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Anger is what the person is supposed to
feel when something as nasty as what is

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happening in your house is happening.
Not pity , not sorry for yourself.

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Not powerlessness.
He's also being schooled in historical

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lessons.
By saying, look, if you're in this

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situation, you think you've got it bad,
well, don't overlook what happened in a

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similar, you know, in a, in a situation
that was surely as bad as yours, and

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probably much worse.
Also, Orestes took care of business in his

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own situation.
And you, as the son of a father whose

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being displaced by people that are eating
you out of house and home, it's going to

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be incumbent upon you, their hinting,
hinting, hinting to take action yourself.

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Go ahead and be the Orestes of your own
story and take action.

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Now, in book four, there's a wonderful
scene that I just wanted to spend a little

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bit of time with, we get to after we've
had a chance to meet Nestor and his

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amazing display of wealth we get a chance
to see what's happening, in the, the house

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of house of Menelaus.
We also get to see that beautiful woman

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Helen of Troy herself.
She comes in and has an entrance into the

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story.
We get to hear from her and hear her own

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story.
When she does jump into the story there

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are some interesting things for us to
recognize.

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First of all, her beauty.
Her bewitching guile.

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It's extraordinary.
It's, it's obviously overwhelming.

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She is indeed the face that launched a
thousand ships.

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When we get to see her she brings in a
nice bowl for us to drink from that is

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going to soothe our, our pains or else an,
an alcoholic beverage.

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But she also adds to it something extra,
something special.

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These are special drugs that she got on
her sojourn in Egypt when she and Menelaus

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were blown off course.
And these drugs, she can now mix into

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wine, that mix into this wonderful potion,
where no one could feel any pain for

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having had it.
The narcotic effect of the wine is another

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thing that seems to be hovering around the
aura that is Helen.

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So, in the case of Helen, we have beauty,
we have magical power, we have

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intoxication.
A little bit of danger, as well, because

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she can bring you out of this world.
All of these things together showing up in

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the figure of Helen, this is a cluster of
ideas that we're going to see visited

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regularly in Homeric epic.
Of women who have power.

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Who have very clear erotic dimension to
their power.

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Who also are mixed up in the idea of, of,
of magic.

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Who have extraordinary beauty.
And who when they arrive in a room, turn

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lots of heads.
There's a tremendous power that Homer sees

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in, in this cluster of ideas, and we're
going to see it represented in multiple

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places as our story moves forward.
Not least, when we turn to away from our

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story of Telemachus in the first four
books of the Odyssey and move on to meet

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our hero, the man himself the, the, the
man the muses are singing of, Odysseus.

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He'll appear in our next lecture.